This subforum is nearly all attack threads

[jettio]

I don't start many threads, but I think this place is now overrun with threads that attack the candidate the threadstarter does not like and then it becomes a back and forth that is centered on a negative discussion.

I think this place would be better if some of the threads started off with a positive article or post about the candidate the thread starter supports.

[Donger]

You've got to be kidding me. jettio wants more positivity?

[Ari Chi3fs]

**** You Jettio, you dumbass!!!11 WTF is your problem!?

[HonestChieffan]

Typical liberal

[Baby Lee]

Soon as someone I like runs for something I'll get back to you.

[Donger]

Could we get a ruling on what constitutes an "attack thread"?

Is any thread that criticizes Barack Hussein an "attack thread"?

[BIG_DADDY]

I don't start many threads, but I think this place is now overrun with threads that attack the candidate the threadstarter does not like and then it becomes a back and forth that is centered on a negative discussion.

I think this place would be better if some of the threads started off with a positive article or post about the candidate the thread starter supports.

I think this forum would be better if you could actually discuss issues instead constantly going after the poster. You are the king of doing that shit.

[Baby Lee]

I think this forum would be better if you could actually discuss issues instead constantly going after the poster. You are the king of doing that shit.

Hey if you want to continue to be a braindead sheep plodding along in lockstep due to your obviously homosexual mancrush on the monkey chimp orangutan classless brainless dickless heartless piece of monkey shit George W, that's your decision. May God have mercy on your soul.


I SAID GOOD DAY!!!

[banyon]

It's clear this time around that if Republicans run on the issues, they will lose, so it's smear-o-rama.

[Donger]

It's clear this time around that if Republicans run on the issues, they will lose, so it's smear-o-rama.

"Attack." "Smear."

Again, could we get some definitions/guidelines?

[HonestChieffan]

Issues like taxing the economy when it least can bear the strain, issues like party line opposition to oil exploration, issues like staying committed to our allies, issues like upholding the constitution, issues like the candidates qualifications, his core beliefs, and ability to make good judgements.

Or would you prefer to just bash Bush and cry race?

[BIG_DADDY]

Hey if you want to continue to be a braindead sheep plodding along in lockstep due to your obviously homosexual mancrush on the monkey chimp orangutan classless brainless dickless heartless piece of monkey shit George W, that's your decision. May God have mercy on your soul.


I SAID GOOD DAY!!!

LMAO

[banyon]

Issues like taxing the economy when it least can bear the strain, issues like party line opposition to oil exploration, issues like staying committed to our allies, issues like upholding the constitution, issues like the candidates qualifications, his core beliefs, and ability to make good judgements.

Or would you prefer to just bash Bush and cry race?

Yeah, those threads are all over the front page of this forum.

[Nightfyre]

Issues like taxing the economy when it least can bear the strain, issues like party line opposition to oil exploration, issues like staying committed to our allies, issues like upholding the constitution, issues like the candidates qualifications, his core beliefs, and ability to make good judgements.

Or would you prefer to just bash Bush and cry race?

Apart from the first two, I'd say Bush deserves a bashing for the other six. Just throwing that out there.

[HonestChieffan]

But Bush isnt running.

[recxjake]

Nah, the next 4 months are going to be a lot of fun!

[Nightfyre]

But Bush isnt running.

I think it's fun to call both sides on their shit, personally. I'm enjoying it a fair bit, though I do wish we'd address the economy more thoroughly as it is clearly the most important issue.

[HonestChieffan]

I agree

[Donger]

I just read Barack Hussein's plan for the economy. It was like having a flashback to reading Das Kapital.

[HonestChieffan]

Thank you comrade. The party makes all things possible. Now back to your tasks, serve us well.

[Nightfyre]

I just read Barack Hussein's plan for the economy. It was like having a flashback to reading Das Kapital.

Yeah, it certainly wasn't pretty. It sounded to me like he said, "What Laffer Curve?" John McCain, on the other hand, is like "Economics? I like being eco friendly!" It's like a comic showdown with predictable results. Disheartening, to say the least.

[little jacob]

I just read Barack Hussein's plan for the economy. It was like having a flashback to reading Das Kapital.

another commodity fetishist I see

[Direckshun]

Blow me, pipsqueak.

[Radar Chief]

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[SBK]

This must be a parody thread.

[jettio]

Soon as someone I like runs for something I'll get back to you.


That was a good one.:thumb:

[jettio]

I think this forum would be better if you could actually discuss issues instead constantly going after the poster. You are the king of doing that shit.


Considering that all you do is complain about Republicans and then complain louder about Democrats because you think they are not as macho as Republicans, it is no wonder that you would oppose the idea of having a few threads that are positive.

Hell, the only things you are positive for are legalizing to the fullest extent with no regulation whatsoever: guns, pit bulls, steroids, hormones, and probably narcotics.

I don't know if we will wait for a positive thread from you about anybody that aspires to run for office.

[jettio]

Nah, the next 4 months are going to be a lot of fun!


You ought to sign up for military service and you might realize that your country is more important than your political party.

[jettio]

**** You Jettio, you dumbass!!!11 WTF is your problem!?

Looks like one of my opponents is sending out surrogates with scripted remarks and plausible deniability.

Who are you working for?

[BIG_DADDY]

Considering that all you do is complain about Republicans and then complain louder about Democrats because you think they are not as macho as Republicans, it is no wonder that you would oppose the idea of having a few threads that are positive.

Hell, the only things you are positive for are legalizing to the fullest extent with no regulation whatsoever: guns, pit bulls, steroids, hormones, and probably narcotics.

I don't know if we will wait for a positive thread from you about anybody that aspires to run for office.

Thanks for proving my point. LMAO

I had lots of good things to say about Ron Paul. Are you ever right about anything?

[SNR]

I don't start many threads, but I think this place is now overrun with threads that attack the candidate the threadstarter does not like and then it becomes a back and forth that is centered on a negative discussion.

I think this place would be better if some of the threads started off with a positive article or post about the candidate the thread starter supports.Welcome to Chiefsplanet DC, where we've adopted the Herm Edwards school of thought when it comes to negative threads: "Deal with it"

[tiptap]

Issues like taxing the economy when it least can bear the strain, issues like party line opposition to oil exploration, issues like staying committed to our allies, issues like upholding the constitution, issues like the candidates qualifications, his core beliefs, and ability to make good judgements.

Or would you prefer to just bash Bush and cry race?

If the Republicans had paid for the war and actually watched the deficit, then hadn't actively encourage an economic bubble in the the housing market, then I wouldn't be having to look to be paying more taxes, just like I did to bail out the Reagan/Bush I deficits. I will concede that at least Bush I responsibly started the process. But yes the pain will come on the Democrats watch, just like the Republicans planned. Another reason to end the size of our involvement in Iraq.

[Adept Havelock]

You ought to sign up for military service and you might realize that your country is more important than your political party.

Nah. He has better things to do then spend his life playing with guns in the sand. ;)

[tiptap]

And in order to control pricing and remove the burden from industry, the government will be taking over the Medical Insurance. And I can't wait. I hate hospital/medical billing. I don't see why we let an industry take advantage of people when they are most vulnerable. And if it was just those who chose to ignore insurance it would be one thing.

[Nightfyre]

And in order to control pricing and remove the burden from industry, the government will be taking over the Medical Insurance. And I can't wait. I hate hospital/medical billing. I don't see why we let an industry take advantage of people when they are most vulnerable. And if it was just those who chose to ignore insurance it would be one thing.

Yea, controlling pricing has worked well in any industry. :rolleyes: Your incompetence regarding economics and the medical industry really knows no bounds.

[Nightfyre]

If the Republicans had paid for the war and actually watched the deficit, then hadn't actively encourage an economic bubble in the the housing market, then I wouldn't be having to look to be paying more taxes, just like I did to bail out the Reagan/Bush I deficits. I will concede that at least Bush I responsibly started the process. But yes the pain will come on the Democrats watch, just like the Republicans planned. Another reason to end the size of our involvement in Iraq.

I also fail to see how Republicans actively encouraged the housing bubble with their zero control on monetary policy. I'm all ears on that one.

[BucEyedPea]

And in order to control pricing and remove the burden from industry, the government will be taking over the Medical Insurance. And I can't wait. I hate hospital/medical billing. I don't see why we let an industry take advantage of people when they are most vulnerable. And if it was just those who chose to ignore insurance it would be one thing.

Here's a good economics primer for you on how corporatism is the same things as your beloved socialism....how big business regulates to drive out competition but sells it as compassion.

Corporatism and Socialism (http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0411e.asp)

Don't kid yourself tiptap but it's big business that wants us to sign Kyoto too and is behind environmentalism. That drives out all the small guys too.

[BIG_DADDY]

I also fail to see how Republicans actively encouraged the housing bubble with their zero control on monetary policy. I'm all ears on that one.

Well Bush saw the house of cards and jumped right in to screw citizens and protect the bankers by reforming our bankrupcy laws.

[banyon]

Here's a good economics primer for you on how corporatism is the same things as your beloved socialism....how big business regulates to drive out competition but sells it as compassion.

Corporatism and Socialism (http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0411e.asp)

Don't kid yourself tiptap but it's big business that wants us to sign Kyoto too and is behind environmentalism. That drives out all the small guys too.

And your unregulated economic anarchism offers no solution to corportations driving their competition out of business.

[HonestChieffan]

And your unregulated economic anarchism offers no solution to corportations driving their competition out of business.

Thats what they are supposed to do.
Those who cant compete go broke. They should.
The ones who can survive, are rewarded with profit.
Capitalism they call it.

[irishjayhawk]

Thats what they are supposed to do.
Those who cant compete go broke. They should.
The ones who can survive, are rewarded with profit.
Capitalism they call it.

And the lack of competition breeds a lack of innovation. It's a terrible circle that gets us nowhere. Competition is a must.

[ChiefaRoo]

Yeah, it certainly wasn't pretty. It sounded to me like he said, "What Laffer Curve?" John McCain, on the other hand, is like "Economics? I like being eco friendly!" It's like a comic showdown with predictable results. Disheartening, to say the least.

You know who would make a great President now. Newt Gingrich. I know he's been demonized as the consumate politician since the 90's but let's face it they are all cut throat pols on each side as we have all now learned from what we see on TV and in print everyday. Gingrich had and has one of the best minds in politics. He believes in a Jeffersonian view of the consititution and that the country was well founded.

I believe he would be great on politics, the war on terrorism around the globe, really good on the economy and his ability to speak and articulate his views would be excellent and would make us all proud as he traveled the world. Lastly, dude has a lot of hands on experience in wielding power and he truly understands Americas history and where we stand in the world.

I know it's an unworkable idea but he would be a superior candidate in intellect and experience than either McCain or Obama. The American people deserve much better candidates than we have been getting. Bush, McCain, Obama, Kerry, Gore. These men just don't measure up IMO.

[Nightfyre]

You know who would make a great President now. Newt Gingrich. I know he's been demonized as the consumate politician since the 90's but let's face it they are all cut throat pols on each side as we have all now learned from what we see on TV and in print everyday. Gingrich had and has one of the best minds in politics. He believes in a Jeffersonian view of the consititution and that the country was well founded.

I believe he would be great on politics, the war on terrorism around the globe, really good on the economy and his ability to speak and articulate his views would be excellent and would make us all proud as he traveled the world. Lastly, dude has a lot of hands on experience in wielding power and he truly understands Americas history and where we stand in the world.

I know it's an unworkable idea but he would be a superior candidate in intellect and experience than either McCain or Obama. The American people deserve much better candidates than we have been getting. Bush, McCain, Obama, Kerry, Gore. These men just don't measure up IMO.

I would disagree with him on the GWOT, but his record shows fiscal responsibility and government shrinking. I would actually be motivated enough to vote for him if he ran. I am also curious about his feelings on monetary policy reform, but on the whole I agree that he would be an excellent candidate, definitely the strongest in this elections' field.

[ChiefaRoo]

I would disagree with him on the GWOT, but his record shows fiscal responsibility and government shrinking. I would actually be motivated enough to vote for him if he ran. I am also curious about his feelings on monetary policy reform, but on the whole I agree that he would be an excellent candidate, definitely the strongest in this elections' field.

At this point I think the GWOT while still extremely important is the second biggest issue facing the US now. We are winning in Iraq (for whatever that means) and in Afghanistan. I think getting strong fiscal management back to the forefront is crucial. The dollar needs to be a bit stronger (although I like the Mfg. export advantage it gives the US over the Euros) and I think we all agree we need a much better energy policy as the Global economy develops and we move from an oil based economy to more diversified forms of energy to meet the huge needs that will continue to grow as the US and the rest of civilization on this planet continues to advance, grow and become a better place for all of man to live.

These are big questions and require strategic thinking. I'm so sick of hearing about lapel pins, and brown water Navy barbs and all that shite designed to divert the attention of the masses. We need well reasoned and coordinated leadership in Congress, the Judicial branch and the Executive branch. Personally, I am more worried about Congress (both the House and the Senate) than I am over who becomes President. Congress is a simply a joke right now with poor leadership or weak leadership on both sides of the aisle. America deserves better fiscal policy and better men and women to represent us. I hope there are some changes in the off year election cycle. 90% plus of all Senators and Congressmen get re-elected. We need to look hard at what we want as both Republicans and Democracts and vote these weak sisters out.

[BucEyedPea]

Newt is just another phony conservative who admitted behind closed doors to conservatives he wasn't one. And he isn't. He tried to twist the arms of freshmen Rs to not vote for tax-cuts too. He can't be trusted and is a sell-out traitor on American sovereignty. He also a neocon warmonger. He's just more of what we don't need.

[BucEyedPea]

Thats what they are supposed to do.
Those who cant compete go broke. They should.
The ones who can survive, are rewarded with profit.
Capitalism they call it.

Please put the adjective "state" or "cartel" in front of the word "capitalism" and read the primer I gave tip-tap. We do not have free-market capitalism and it is nowhere even close to anarcho-capitalism which the GOP doesn't support at all anyway. Please, the R's support close to what banyon supports—corporatism.

[Calcountry]

It's clear this time around that if Republicans run on the issues, they will lose, so it's smear-o-rama.What issues?

Oh yeah, I forgot. Two big ones: Change and Hope. We are woefully inept at articulating how we are going to deal with those issues.

[Calcountry]

Issues like taxing the economy when it least can bear the strain, issues like party line opposition to oil exploration, issues like staying committed to our allies, issues like upholding the constitution, issues like the candidates qualifications, his core beliefs, and ability to make good judgements.

Or would you prefer to just bash Bush and cry race?
How about the energy issue? How about we start drilling the heck out of the country?

No, we aren't anywhere on those issues.

[Calcountry]

I just read Barack Hussein's plan for the economy. It was like having a flashback to reading Das Kapital.It's Jimmy's 2nd term.

[Calcountry]

Newt is just another phony conservative who admitted behind closed doors to conservatives he wasn't one. And he isn't. He tried to twist the arms of freshmen Rs to not vote for tax-cuts too. He can't be trusted and is a sell-out traitor on American sovereignty. He also a neocon warmonger. He's just more of what we don't need.Is Blow Paul the only real "conservative" left?

Are there any others that would meet your approval, ready to be groomed?

I don't believe there are any that are good enough for you.

Kind of like your pickiness with your food.

[D2112]

I don't start many threads, but I think this place is now overrun with threads that attack the candidate the threadstarter does not like and then it becomes a back and forth that is centered on a negative discussion.

I think this place would be better if some of the threads started off with a positive article or post about the candidate the thread starter supports.

I love you

[banyon]

What issues?

Oh yeah, I forgot. Two big ones: Change and Hope. We are woefully inept at articulating how we are going to deal with those issues.

It's not as if Obama has a thirty plus page website exclusively devoted to detailing his policy positions or anything...

...oh wait.

[BIG_DADDY]

It's not as if Obama has a thirty plus page website exclusively devoted to detailing his policy positions or anything...

...oh wait.

Or that you can actually look up ontheissues.org and see that his voting record looks nothing like his webpage.

[irishjayhawk]

Or that you can actually look up ontheissues.org and see that his voting record looks nothing like his webpage.

It's too bad voting records don't outline WHY he voted a certain way?

Maybe he voted against a bill you wanted passed because it had 100 billion in pork? Maybe because he has a clearly reasoned argument?

Or maybe he voted for a bill your against for valid reasons?


Not everything is in the numbers.

[Iowanian]

The Gnashing of teeth and flailing of arms and legs through the drool spray are my favorite part of jettio's hypocritical temper tantrums.

Someone roll out the wrestling mat and push the tables out of the way so he/she? doesn't hert hurself.

[Mr. Kotter]

You go first:

W. Bush? ;)

[Logical]

I agree, but generally those don't get many responses.:shrug:

[Logical]

Issues like taxing the economy when it least can bear the strain, issues like party line opposition to oil exploration, issues like staying committed to our allies, issues like upholding the constitution, issues like the candidates qualifications, his core beliefs, and ability to make good judgements.

Or would you prefer to just bash Bush and cry race?

I guess I have a hard time deciding who our allies are other than Great Britain. No one else stands with us consistently on issues, why should we stand with them?

[ChiefaRoo]

Newt is just another phony conservative who admitted behind closed doors to conservatives he wasn't one. And he isn't. He tried to twist the arms of freshmen Rs to not vote for tax-cuts too. He can't be trusted and is a sell-out traitor on American sovereignty. He also a neocon warmonger. He's just more of what we don't need.

Pea I have no idea what you are talking about but that aside, besides Ron Paul who is a politician whom you think would make a good leader?

[Nightfyre]

So yea, this forum sucks these days.

[Simply Red]

Blow me, pipsqueak.

ROFL

[Calcountry]

It's not as if Obama has a thirty plus page website exclusively devoted to detailing his policy positions or anything...

...oh wait.
Really now, do you think that more than half the idiots that he is depending on for votes can comprehend that, much less take the time away from "Pimp my ride" to read it?

[J Diddy]

Really now, do you think that more than half the idiots that he is depending on for votes can comprehend that, much less take the time away from "Pimp my ride" to read it?

I'm pretty sure that's a racist remark.

I'm sure you didn't mean it, though.

[alanm]

I just read Barack Hussein's plan for the economy. It was like having a flashback to reading Das Kapital.
We're all gonna get paid the same wages from the collective whether or not we go to work or stay home and pound vodka.
It's all good Comrade.PBJ

[Calcountry]

I'm pretty sure that's a racist remark.

I'm sure you didn't mean it, though.
Nope, the other half that are going to vote for him are quite smart.

Notice that I didn't distinguish which half was stupid and which half wasn't. That stereotype came from you my friend.

You better check yourself.

[Logical]

Really now, do you think that more than half the idiots that he is depending on for votes can comprehend that, much less take the time away from "Pimp my ride" to read it?:spock:

You want to retract the racist statement?

[Logical]

Nope, the other half that are going to vote for him are quite smart.

Notice that I didn't distinguish which half was stupid and which half wasn't. That stereotype came from you my friend.

You better check yourself.I think you may have forgot the pimp my ride portion of your post.

[SBK]

I think you may have forgot the pimp my ride portion of your post.

Pimp my ride is a show on MTV aimed at teenagers. It's not a racial reference.

[D2112]

Pimp my ride is a show on MTV aimed at teenagers. It's not a racial reference.

ROFL


Ill-Logical is not from that era, he grew up watching Leave it to Beaver and My Three sons.

[patteeu]

Obama has his stalwarts looking for racism behind every corner.

[BucEyedPea]

Is Blow Paul the only real "conservative" left?
I thought he was a libertarian. You do know that the Old Right conservatives have libertarian roots though don't you?

Are there any others that would meet your approval, ready to be groomed?

I don't believe there are any that are good enough for you.

Kind of like your pickiness with your food.

I want to talk about you, you, you, you, you.


I guess you missed where I am leaning and what my strategy is.

Oh and I am not picky about food...just the quality of it. I like a lot of foods. Never been a picky eater.

[BucEyedPea]

Pea I have no idea what you are talking about but that aside, besides Ron Paul who is a politician whom you think would make a good leader?

I think that this country has a leadership crisis right now. Sorry but that's my opinion. Currently leaning toward Barr, not confirmed though, who won't win but at least it's a place to go with my integrity intact. I don't care if it helps Obama win though because I'd rather the GOP be in disarray and clean their house ideologically or have others gain control of it. I like SC Governor Mark Sanford though.

[Nightfyre]

I think that this country has a leadership crisis right now. Sorry but that's my opinion. Currently leaning toward Barr, not confirmed though, who won't win but at least it's a place to go with my integrity intact. I don't care if it helps Obama win though because I'd rather the GOP be in disarray and clean their house ideologically or have others gain control of it. I like SC Governor Mark Sanford though.

I think I read Barr voted for the patriot act. Is that a real libertarian party leader? Mary whatshername was also much better on the debates on CSPAN, I thought.

[Logical]

ROFL


Ill-Logical is not from that era, he grew up watching Leave it to Beaver and My Three sons.Actually you are correct but I have definitely watched the show

[SHTSPRAYER]

It's clear this time around that if Republicans run on the issues, they will lose, so it's smear-o-rama.


Is that why B.O. flip flopped on FISA, Iraq and off shore drilling?

PBJ

[Programmer]

I don't start many threads, but I think this place is now overrun with threads that attack the candidate the threadstarter does not like and then it becomes a back and forth that is centered on a negative discussion.

I think this place would be better if some of the threads started off with a positive article or post about the candidate the thread starter supports.

If you feel that way, start a thread with something positive about one of the candidates. As I see it there isn't anything that either of them are connected with that would be considered positive for the country.

Besides, you have two distinct and divergent paths of thought. No conservative will post a positive thread about a liberal candidate and vice/versa.

Face it, until the election is over it's full blown hatred for the other party. After the election it's the loser's side that will be hard core against the new electee.

[ChiefaRoo]

I think that this country has a leadership crisis right now. Sorry but that's my opinion. Currently leaning toward Barr, not confirmed though, who won't win but at least it's a place to go with my integrity intact. I don't care if it helps Obama win though because I'd rather the GOP be in disarray and clean their house ideologically or have others gain control of it. I like SC Governor Mark Sanford though.

Well, at least you're honest. I'm a conservative but I am very unhappy with the Republican party and I agree there is a leadership crisis.

[Ari Chi3fs]

**** You Jettio, you dumbass!!!11 WTF is your problem!?

STFU Douche!

[Bowser]

Well, at least you're honest. I'm a conservative but I am very unhappy with the Republican party and I agree there is a leadership crisis.

Honestly, I think most people across the board can say the same about their respective parties (well, the big two, anyway).