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cdcox
07-08-2008, 07:07 PM
On now. I'll count them down.

I could see both (Lewis and Ross) and (Carter and Hasty) making the list. Probably won't put two groups of Chiefs on the list. We'll see.

10. Everson Walls and Dennis Thurman

cdcox
07-08-2008, 07:10 PM
9. Ross and Lewis (Should be higher.)

Ebolapox
07-08-2008, 07:11 PM
9. Ross and Lewis (Should be higher.)

maybe whoever put the list together is pissed (like I am) about lewis bolting to the raiders. maybe.

cdcox
07-08-2008, 07:13 PM
8. Skip Thomas and Willie Brown

Don't remember Skip Thomas AT ALL.

KCChiefsMan
07-08-2008, 07:17 PM
8. Skip Thomas and Willie Brown

Don't remember Skip Thomas AT ALL.

he was the guy who played alongside Willie Brown ;)

chiefs1111
07-08-2008, 07:17 PM
maybe whoever put the list together is pissed (like I am) about lewis bolting to the raiders. maybe.

Yeah,that was truly a dark day in chiefs history for me

chiefs1111
07-08-2008, 07:19 PM
lol Deion Sanders and anyone is number 7

cdcox
07-08-2008, 07:20 PM
he was the guy who played alongside Willie Brown ;)

Yeah but right now they are saying that Roger Wehrli, Darrel Green and Rod Woodson didn't make the list since they didn't have a good tandem.

Whoop.

7. Deon Sanders and anybody.

cdcox
07-08-2008, 07:24 PM
6. Mel Blount and JT Thomas

JT is another WHO?

StcChief
07-08-2008, 07:29 PM
Yeah but right now they are saying that Roger Wehrli, Darrel Green and Rod Woodson didn't make the list since they didn't have a good tandem.

Whoop.

7. Deon Sanders and anybody.deon push 'em outta bounds or run away from a tackle is CB?ROFL

chiefs1111
07-08-2008, 07:30 PM
6. Mel Blount and JT Thomas

JT is another WHO?

Yeah,I thought this was supposed to be about tandems,not "a great corner on one side and joe blow on the other"

Skip Towne
07-08-2008, 07:32 PM
8. Skip Thomas and Willie Brown

Don't remember Skip Thomas AT ALL.

Well, then, do you remember Skip Towne?

cdcox
07-08-2008, 07:33 PM
5. Dick Lebeau, Night-Train Lane, and Lem Barney (I'd probabably rank this set of triplets #1).

cdcox
07-08-2008, 07:34 PM
deon push 'em outta bounds or run away from a tackle is CB?ROFL

Deion called those "business decisions".

cdcox
07-08-2008, 07:34 PM
4. Bob Jeeter and Herb Adderly (Great Tandum)

Baconeater
07-08-2008, 07:36 PM
7. Deon Sanders and anybody.

:lame:

chiefs1111
07-08-2008, 07:38 PM
Deion called those "business decisions".

I had a good little chuckle at that one....

cdcox
07-08-2008, 07:40 PM
3. Ronnie Lott and Eric Wright

Everyone thinks of Lott as a Safety.

shaneo69
07-08-2008, 07:43 PM
2) Gary Green & Eric Harris

shaneo69
07-08-2008, 07:43 PM
1) Jim Kearney & Emmitt Thomas

cdcox
07-08-2008, 07:43 PM
Eric Wright's career was pretty average after his rookie year.

shaneo69
07-08-2008, 07:44 PM
Eric Wright's career was pretty average after his rookie year.

Yeah that tandem lasted what, a year?

cdcox
07-08-2008, 07:47 PM
2. Dixon and Minnifield (good tandem, but not intimidating)

cdcox
07-08-2008, 07:48 PM
1. will be Hayes and Haynes.

That image of stickum on Lester Hayes' fingers probably raised them a couple of notches.

John_Wayne
07-08-2008, 07:52 PM
James Hasty and Dale Carter?

shaneo69
07-08-2008, 07:53 PM
1. Roynell Young & Herm Edwards

Wow...

chiefs1111
07-08-2008, 07:55 PM
1. will be Hayes and Haynes.

That image of stickum on Lester Hayes' fingers probably raised them a couple of notches.

yup,you got that one right on the money

blueballs
07-08-2008, 07:56 PM
this page is worthless without pics

cdcox
07-08-2008, 08:05 PM
Of the 6 true tandem's (not 1 great corner and somebody else) they listed I'd rank them:

1. Barney, LeBeau, Lane (not a tandem, but 10 years of greatness at both positions)
2. Adderly and Jeeter
3. Hayes and Haynes
4. Dixon and Minnefield
5. Ross and Lewis
6. Walls and Thurman

Plenty of room for Carter and Hasty.

acesn8s
07-08-2008, 08:06 PM
this page is worthless FYP

cdcox
07-08-2008, 08:09 PM
this page is worthless without pics

I don't get it. /William Bartee

ohiobronco2
07-08-2008, 09:03 PM
Where is Bailey/Bly? :D

Pasta Giant Meatball
07-08-2008, 09:12 PM
Who compiles these rankings?

Adept Havelock
07-08-2008, 09:26 PM
Where is Bailey/Bly? :D

In here. :D

http://c.imagehost.org/0732/toaster.jpg

chiefs1111
07-09-2008, 12:13 AM
Where is Bailey/Bly? :D

lol,that was good for a laugh.......

KCrockaholic
07-09-2008, 12:22 AM
3. Ronnie Lott and Eric Wright

Everyone thinks of Lott as a Safety.

i thought ronnie lott was a safety? wth?

.....well this changes everything....

Logical
07-09-2008, 12:27 AM
1) Jim Kearney & Emmitt ThomasMy memory could be bad but wasn't it Marsalis across from Emmitt. Seems to me Kearney and Johnny Robinson were the safeties.

ChiefsFanatic
07-09-2008, 12:52 AM
deon push 'em outta bounds or run away from a tackle is CB?ROFL

I don't agree with him being listed like that, but imho he is the greatest corner of all time.

He absolutely shut down one side of the field, nearly every game of his career. And until Hester came along, if you had asked me what player I wanted returning a kick if there absolutely had to be a TD as a result, I would have said Sanders.

I don't care that he was never credited with being a great tackler.

ChiefsFanatic
07-09-2008, 12:53 AM
i thought ronnie lott was a safety? wth?

.....well this changes everything....

Not during his prime. He started out at a CB

ClevelandBronco
07-09-2008, 12:59 AM
2. Dixon and Minnifield (good tandem, but not intimidating)

You must not have seen them play much.

cdcox
07-09-2008, 01:27 AM
Not during his prime. He started out at a CB

He may have started as a CB, but he never distinguished himself at that position. He was a 5-time consensus all-pro at safety. Never made consensus all pro at CB even once. He was a great natural safety that the 49ers played at corner.

cdcox
07-09-2008, 01:38 AM
You must not have seen them play much.

I meant that they were not physical corners in the cut of Adderly, Blount, Ross. They also didn't pile up the interceptions. Sometimes a great corner doesn't get many picks because teams throw to the other side of the field. But when you have a great tandum the ints should pile up.

Career INTS:

Hanford Dixon 26
Frank Minnefield 20

Albert Lewis 42
Kevin Ross 38

ClevelandBronco
07-09-2008, 01:46 AM
I meant that they were not physical corners in the cut of Adderly, Blount, Ross. They also didn't pile up the interceptions. Sometimes a great corner doesn't get many picks because teams throw to the other side of the field. But when you have a great tandum the ints should pile up.

Career INTS:

Hanford Dixon 26
Frank Minnefield 20

Albert Lewis 42
Kevin Ross 38

I'm not surprised that they didn't have a lot of interceptions. They were too busy taking guys' heads off.

Mojo Rising
07-09-2008, 02:55 AM
He may have started as a CB, but he never distinguished himself at that position. He was a 5-time consensus all-pro at safety. Never made consensus all pro at CB even once. He was a great natural safety that the 49ers played at corner.

He was a Pro Bowler at CB more than a few times.

Imagine the defensive backfield at USC with Lott, Dennis Smith and Jeff Fisher. That is a hard hitting knowledgeable D.

Go Trojans!

CrazyPhuD
07-09-2008, 03:19 AM
Go Trojans!

Bah the only thing trojans are good for is catching semen!:evil:

Mojo Rising
07-09-2008, 03:42 AM
Bah the only thing trojans are good for is catching semen!:evil:

And winning Championships. Both Pac 10 and National. 3rd grade jokes aside...some great football players have played at USC. Anthony Munoz was also on that team.

Mojo Rising
07-09-2008, 03:56 AM
Joey Browner was the other DB on the Trojans. Lott, Smith and Browner were all Pro Bowlers and Fisher ended up a Head Coach.

ChiefsFanatic
07-09-2008, 06:42 AM
Bah the only thing trojans are good for is catching semen!:evil:

And cutting throats.:thumb:

StcChief
07-09-2008, 08:23 AM
Deion called those "business decisions".yeah, my business is I'm too small and don't wanna get hurt.

RedNeckRaider
07-09-2008, 08:50 AM
1. will be Hayes and Haynes.

That image of stickum on Lester Hayes' fingers probably raised them a couple of notches.

Someone once said 2/3s of the earth is covered with water Mike Haynes covered the rest. Yes I am pulling my homer card those two are my #1 also. They were something special to watch.

MVChiefFan
07-09-2008, 09:55 AM
Someone once said 2/3s of the earth is covered with water Mike Haynes covered the rest. Yes I am pulling my homer card those two are my #1 also. They were something special to watch.

I thought Fred Smoot said that about himself.

Frazod
07-09-2008, 10:00 AM
Eric Wright's career was pretty average after his rookie year.

LMAO

Yeah, those four Super Bowl rings he ended up with were just average as hell.

TEX
07-09-2008, 10:24 AM
You must not have seen them play much.


I saw them play many times. They were more "dirty" than anything. And what I mean by that is they were always pushing the enevelope. They could get away with things so they did. Kind of like how James Hasty played.

Redrum_69
07-09-2008, 11:15 AM
Mark McMillian and Reggie Tongue.....

RedNeckRaider
07-09-2008, 12:05 PM
I thought Fred Smoot said that about himself.

Could be I just remember someone saying that about Haynes when he went into the HOF.

Stewie
07-09-2008, 12:14 PM
I thought Fred Smoot said that about himself.


Smoot said, "Get the chicks on the water, I'll cover the rest!"

milkman
07-09-2008, 12:19 PM
When they make a list of top ten worst lists ever, this one should be at the top of the heap.

Or is that the bottom?

cdcox
07-09-2008, 01:18 PM
Of the 6 true tandem's (not 1 great corner and somebody else) they listed I'd rank them:

1. Barney, LeBeau, Lane (not a tandem, but 10 years of greatness at both positions)
2. Adderly and Jeeter
3. Hayes and Haynes
4. Dixon and Minnefield
5. Ross and Lewis
6. Walls and Thurman

Plenty of room for Carter and Hasty.

Upon further review of the facts, it does appear that Lott and Wright have a legitimate place on this list. They played together as corners for 4 year (counting the half year Wright missed to injury and the half year that Lott switched to safety). Lott was a probowler 4 of those years (but not consensus all-pro) and Wright was a probowler for 2; injuries and a low career interception total (18) is why I called Wright's career average. I'd slide them into the 5 spot.

However, I do think players on championship teams get a subjective boost in terms of Hall of Famers, best all time lists, probowls, and the like. If the early 90's Chiefs had won a couple of SBs because their offense was as good as the defense, then Ross and Lewis would have moved up on this list. Playing with good teamates should not affect selection to these types of lists, but it does.

RustShack
07-09-2008, 01:21 PM
Where is Surtain and Flowers?

Demonpenz
07-09-2008, 01:24 PM
Man seeing those deion highlights I always forget how great he was. What a weapon to have on SP, Offense, and one of the top Defenders of all time

milkman
07-09-2008, 01:26 PM
Man seeing those deion highlights I always forget how great he was. What a weapon to have on SP, Offense, and one of the top Defenders of all time

He's one of the top cover guys, but unless you do some hitting, you are not among the top defenders of all time.

StcChief
07-09-2008, 02:23 PM
He's one of the top cover guys, but unless you do some hitting, you are not among the top defenders of all time.
thank you. My opinion exactly. NOT a top corner.

RedNeckRaider
07-09-2008, 02:42 PM
He's one of the top cover guys, but unless you do some hitting, you are not among the top defenders of all time.

My thoughts also, the guy could flat out cover. His cover ability and bait then close skills are as good as I have ever seen. He did however get away with a ton of grabing and pushing off. This position also calls for run support and he was a weakness in that role.

Demonpenz
07-09-2008, 04:26 PM
Difference of opinion I guess.

Chiefnj2
07-09-2008, 04:40 PM
Night train was probably the best well rounded corner ever. He could pick the ball and hit like a MFer.

Adept Havelock
07-09-2008, 04:52 PM
He's one of the top cover guys, but unless you do some hitting, you are not among the top defenders of all time.

I'd agree. I watched him pull up and blow more than a few tackles because he was afraid of getting bruised.

StcChief
07-09-2008, 05:25 PM
Night train was probably the best well rounded corner ever. He could pick the ball and hit like a MFer.
Yes NightTrain Lane was at the very top of the game alone.

Rain Man
07-18-2008, 10:06 PM
Did Mel Renfro and Herb Adderley not play together long enough in Dallas to be counted? Aren't they a pair of HoFers?

Pat Fischer and Mike Bass were a good pair in Washington at the same time.

I was annoyed that Dixon and Minnifield always got more accolades than Lewis and Ross. Both were good, but I'd take Lewis and Ross over the other pair.

Hasty and Carter really should be on the list.

Did Barney, LeBeau, and Lane all play together? I didn't know that. That would've been a strong group.

Cincinnati had a very strong pair for a while in Ken Riley and Lemar Parrish, which could've snuck onto this list.

Haynes and Hayes were overrated. Good, but overrated. Hayes made a career out of one fluke season.

Who played opposite Woodson when he was a Steelers CB? I remember it being a pretty good pair.

I remember Houston having a strong CB tandem during the Buddy Ryan days, but am blanking on their names. We signed one of them at the end of his career and he played for us a year or two.

Madison and Surtain were good for a while. Not sure they'd make the list but they were good.

Tampa had a good pair for a while with Ronde Barber and ... Dwight Smith? Was he the other corner?

Jimmie Johnson was paired with some young phenom in San Francisco in the 70s named Bruce Taylor, but I think Taylor burned out fast.

Whether you like him or not, you can't deny that Deion Sanders was a great cornerback. Whatever he lacked in run support, he more than made up for in coverage.

And last but not least, I think Everson Walls was the best cover cornerback in NFL history.

RJ
07-18-2008, 10:40 PM
My memory could be bad but wasn't it Marsalis across from Emmitt. Seems to me Kearney and Johnny Robinson were the safeties.



I think Marsalis caused Kearney to move to safety but that might be wrong. Either way, Thomas and Marsalis were a helluva tandem. I recall Marsalis was damn good at bumping the receiver off the line, a very physical CB......back when such things were legal.

RustShack
07-18-2008, 10:42 PM
Ty Law and Patrick Surtain would have been nice if they had played together in thier prime and with a good Dline... ha

milkman
07-19-2008, 09:34 AM
Tampa had a good pair for a while with Ronde Barber and ... Dwight Smith? Was he the other corner?

Would that be Donnie Abraham you're thinking of?

cdcox
07-19-2008, 09:45 AM
Did Mel Renfro and Herb Adderley not play together long enough in Dallas to be counted? Aren't they a pair of HoFers?

Did Barney, LeBeau, and Lane all play together? I didn't know that. That would've been a strong group.

Madison and Surtain were good for a while. Not sure they'd make the list but they were good.



I guess that Adderley was past his prime by the time he joined the Cowboys. Two HOFers would be tough to beat.

I think for the Lions Lebeau and Lane played together for a while, then after Lane retired, Lem Barney came along and played with LeBeau.

Madison and Surtain made the "best of the rest" list, but I think they gave a lot of credit to the Miami pass rush.