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The Bad Guy
07-10-2008, 12:43 PM
I'm in the very beginning stages of looking for land to build a house.

I found this listing, but it said it failed a perc test in 2007. Now, I know this has to do with the sewer, but does this mean that the land is completely worthless?

Here is the listing..

<TABLE borderColor=black cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 rules=all width="100%" frame=border><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left width="50%"><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Lot Description:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Cleared; Inside</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Road :</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Public</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Water at Site:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Community Well</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Waste at Site:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Septic Needed</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Topography:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Level</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Builder:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Any Builder</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Miscellaneous:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>None</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=top align=left width="50%"><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Utilities/Imprvmnts:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Other - See Remarks</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Special Information:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>No Survey</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Community Amenities:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>None</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Tax Benefits Program:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>None</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Possession :</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Settlement</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Financing :</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Cash; Conventional</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=2><!----><!----></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=2><!----><!---->Public Remarks: Lot 11 on Clover Lane in Sunset Hills: level building lot. Property failed perc test in December 07. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

penguinz
07-10-2008, 12:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perc_test

chris
07-10-2008, 12:50 PM
No, it means you are limited in the type of septic tank or field.

We went thru the same test last year.

Good luck.

Per wiki:

A percolation test (from percolation, colloquially called a perc test) is a test to determine the absorption rate of soil for a septic drain field or "leach field". The results of a percolation test are required to properly design a septic system. In its broadest terms, percolation testing is simply observing how quickly a known volume of water dissipates into the subsoil of a drilled hole of known surface area. While every jurisdiction will have its own laws regarding the exact calculations for the length of line, depth of pit, etc., the testing procedures are the same.

In general, sandy soil will absorb more water than soil with a high concentration of clay or where the water table is close to the surface.


[edit] Testing method
A percolation test consists of digging one or more holes in the soil of the proposed leach field to a specified depth, presoaking the holes by maintaining a high water level in the holes, then running the test by filling the holes to a specific level and timing the drop of the water level as the water percolates into the surrounding soil. There are various empirical formulae for determining the required size of a leach field based on the size of facility, the percolation test results, and other parameters.

For leach line testing (the most common type throughout most of the country), a minimum of three test holes are drilled, most commonly six to eight inches in diameter. Ideally, these should be drilled to different depths from three to six feet below the surface. For better, more conclusive results, five drill holes are used in a pattern of one hole at each corner of the proposed leach field and one test hole in the center. Testing of these holes will result in a value with units of minutes per inch. This value is then correlated to a predetermined county health code to establish the exact size of the leach field.

Testing for horizontal pits typically requires five to eight test holes drilled in a straight line, or along a common contour, from three to ten feet below the surface. Testing is identical to leach line testing, though the end result is a different type of septic system, established through a different calculation.

Vertical seepage pits are slightly different in testing methods due to their large size, but the basic testing method is essentially the same. A hole, typically three to four feet in diameter is drilled to a depth of twenty or thirty feet (depending on the local groundwater table), and a fire hose is used to fill the pit as quickly as possible, and then, again, its dissipation rate is observed. This rate is used to calculate the size and number of pits necessary for a viable septic system.

Finally, for leach line systems and horizontal seepage pits, a "deep hole" is drilled to find the water table or to approximately twelve feet (dry). Exact depths will again depend on local health codes. In the case of a vertical seepage pit, local groundwater data may be used, or if the drill hole reaches groundwater, the pit will be backfilled again according to county health codes.



I'm in the very beginning stages of looking for land to build a house.

I found this listing, but it said it failed a perc test in 2007. Now, I know this has to do with the sewer, but does this mean that the land is completely worthless?

Here is the listing..

<TABLE borderColor=black cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 rules=all width="100%" frame=border><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left width="50%"><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Lot Description:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Cleared; Inside</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Road :</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Public</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Water at Site:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Community Well</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Waste at Site:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Septic Needed</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Topography:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Level</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Builder:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Any Builder</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Miscellaneous:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>None</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=top align=left width="50%"><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Utilities/Imprvmnts:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Other - See Remarks</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Special Information:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>No Survey</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Community Amenities:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>None</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Tax Benefits Program:</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>None</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Possession :</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Settlement</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=datalabelfont>Financing :</TD><TD class=datavaluefont>Cash; Conventional</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=2><!----><!----></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=2><!----><!---->Public Remarks: Lot 11 on Clover Lane in Sunset Hills: level building lot. Property failed perc test in December 07. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

chris
07-10-2008, 12:51 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perc_test

beat me to it. :)

Hog Farmer
07-10-2008, 12:52 PM
Thats perch test. You will not be able to have perch in the pond. Maybe try catfish or carp.

StcChief
07-10-2008, 01:56 PM
put in outhouse what's the big deal?

CrazyPhuD
07-10-2008, 02:43 PM
Shitter's full!

Iowanian
07-10-2008, 02:50 PM
It must be a rural property and require a septic/leach field.

It means its going to be expensive to get rid of sewage.