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DaKCMan AP
07-15-2008, 10:07 AM
An American Pastime: Smoking Pot

By SARAH N. LYNCHTue Jul 15, 12:35 AM ET

The Netherlands, with its permissive marijuana laws, may be known as the cannabis capital of the world. But a survey published this month in PLoS Medicine, a journal of the Public Library of Science, suggests that the Dutch don't actually experiment with pot as much as one would expect.

Despite tougher drug policies in this country, Americans were twice as likely to have tried marijuana than the Dutch, according to the survey. In fact, Americans were more likely to have tried marijuana or cocaine than people in any of the 16 other countries, including France, Spain, South Africa, Mexico and Colombia, that the survey covered.

Researchers found that 42% of people surveyed in the United States had tried marijuana at least once, and 16% had tried cocaine. About 20% of residents surveyed in the Netherlands, by contrast, reported having tried pot; in Asian countries, such as Japan and China, marijuana use was virtually "non-existent," the study found. New Zealand was the only other country to claim roughly the same percentage of pot smokers as the U.S., but no other nation came close to the proportion of Americans who reported trying cocaine.

Why the high numbers? Jim Anthony, the chair of the department of epidemiology at Michigan State University and an author of the study, says U.S. drug habits have to do, in part, with the country's affluence - many Americans can afford to spend income on recreational drugs.

Another factor may be an increasing awareness that marijuana may be less toxic than other drugs, such as tobacco or alcohol. (However, the study also found that the United States is among the leading countries in the percentage of respondents who tried tobacco and alcohol).

As for the popularity of cocaine, the reason may simply be the close proximity of South America, the world's only coca plant producer. And, finally, Anthony notes, it's a matter of culture: the U.S. is home to a huge baby boomer population that came of age when experimenting with drugs was a part of the social fabric.

"It became a more mass population phenomenon during a period when there were a large number of young people who were in the process of creating a culture of their own," Anthony says.

The survey also found that more Americans not only experimented with drugs, but also tended to try pot and cocaine for the first time at a younger age compared with people in other countries. Just over 20% of Americans reported trying pot by age 15 and nearly 3% had tried cocaine by the same age. Those percentages jumped to 54% and 16%,
respectively, by age 21.

That finding isn't surprising, says Dr. Richard Schottenfeld, a professor of psychiatry and a drug expert at the Yale University School of Medicine, since peer influence has a significant impact on the prevalence of drug use. In the Netherlands, for example, there is a large, vocal and homogeneous conservative population that is staunchly opposed to marijuana, says Schottenfeld. And anti-drug activists have made recent attempts to tighten the country's cannabis policies.

Yet experts say the findings of the new survey don't fairly reflect the success or failure of any particular drug policy. The survey asked only whether people had ever tried drugs in their lifetime - it did not ask about habitual use. "For drug policy, what you look at is regular use," says Tom Riley, a spokesman for the U.S. Office of National Drug Control Policy.

"Somebody having tried pot in 1968 in college doesn't really have much to do with what the current drug use picture in the United States is."

Though current findings may not provide enough context to judge existing drug policy, Anthony says they do highlight some valid issues, especially since stringent laws don't appear to impact whether kids experiment with drugs. "One of the questions raised by research of this type is whether Americans will want to continue supporting the incarceration of young people who use small amounts of marijuana," Anthony says.

The ongoing study, which surveyed more than 85,000 people in 17 countries, is part of a larger project through the World Health Organization's World Mental Health Survey Initiative. Anthony says further research about the frequency of worldwide drug use, and new data from additional countries will be released in the future. View this article on Time.com


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NewChief
07-15-2008, 10:09 AM
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As for the popularity of cocaine, the reason may simply be the close proximity of South America, the world's only coca plant producer. And, finally, Anthony notes, it's a matter of culture: the U.S. is home to a huge baby boomer population that came of age when experimenting with drugs was a part of the social fabric.
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He forgot that the CIA floods our country with cheap blow. :p ;)

Demonpenz
07-15-2008, 10:17 AM
I would like to see how much vacation and hours a week Dutch people work. If they have long vacation times and "working" season they probably don't need a smoke or two to relax on their time away from the grill at ground round

Rausch
07-15-2008, 10:20 AM
I bet I haven't smoked pot 5 times in my life and I've never tried the powder.

chasedude
07-15-2008, 10:33 AM
I think many Americans do it because it is illegal. They enjoy the rush of doing something taboo. What a rush it was to be under 21 and still get served at a bar, or from a store.

tooge
07-15-2008, 11:02 AM
He forgot that the CIA floods our country with cheap blow. :p ;)

In order to keep the brothas down.

chagrin
07-15-2008, 11:53 AM
In order to keep the brothas down.

I thought that was AIDS

Drunk
07-15-2008, 02:23 PM
Has anyone seen AMERICAN DRUG WAR? Pretty interesting documentary.

Educate yourself. Cuz dog knows our schools wont.

Fishpicker
07-15-2008, 03:18 PM
Has anyone seen AMERICAN DRUG WAR? Pretty interesting documentary.

Educate yourself. Cuz dog knows our schools wont.

that's a great movie. its still played occasionally on showtime. this portion of it is related to the thread topic.
<div><embed src="http://www.livevideo.com/flvplayer/embed/21CF6A1E665144F4B4AEC862806C69E4" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" quality="high" WIDTH="445" HEIGHT="369" wmode="transparent"></embed><br/><a href="http://www.livevideo.com/video/embedLink/21CF6A1E665144F4B4AEC862806C69E4/629871/american-drug-war-the-last-w.aspx">American Drug War - The Last White Hope pt 7/8</a></div>

they got some great interviews with the drug czar, dea agents, and tommy chong.

Count Zarth
07-15-2008, 03:23 PM
If I ever did Coke I'd probably get addicted. I'm into losing sleep.

HC_Chief
07-15-2008, 03:46 PM
Just means we're more honest in the US. And, not only are the Chinese red-bellied communists, but f*cking LIARS as well! :D

OnTheWarpath58
07-15-2008, 03:49 PM
If I ever did Coke I'd probably get addicted. I'm into losing sleep.

You'd also lose weight quicker.

:D

Count Zarth
07-15-2008, 03:51 PM
You'd also lose weight quicker.

:D

See...I'd be snorting my brains out and making reservations at Dorsia within a month.

QuikSsurfer
07-15-2008, 03:52 PM
See...I'd be snorting my brains out and making reservations at Dorsia within a month.

No one goes there anymore..

Fish
07-15-2008, 03:54 PM
If I ever did Coke I'd probably get addicted. I'm into losing sleep.

Strippers reaaaaally dig coke..... you'd get skinny and have a crazy woman...


Don't do coke.

DaKCMan AP
07-15-2008, 04:03 PM
Just means we're more honest in the US. And, not only are the Chinese red-bellied communists, but f*cking LIARS as well! :D

Whatever makes you feel better and helps rationalize your drug use. :p

Ugly Duck
07-15-2008, 07:14 PM
Whatever makes you feel better and helps rationalize your drug use. :p

Hey.... I wish I could use drugs. But I can't do all the stuff I need to do and be zoned at the same time. The stuff makes me happy, but it also makes me kinda.... stoopider.

Hydrae
07-15-2008, 07:30 PM
As for the popularity of cocaine, the reason may simply be the close proximity of South America, the world's only coca plant producer. And, finally, Anthony notes, it's a matter of culture: the U.S. is home to a huge baby boomer population that came of age when experimenting with drugs was a part of the social fabric.

Despite tougher drug policies in this country, Americans were twice as likely to have tried marijuana than the Dutch, according to the survey. In fact, Americans were more likely to have tried marijuana or cocaine than people in any of the 16 other countries, including France, Spain, South Africa, Mexico and Colombia, that the survey covered.


Hmmm, I think Mexico and Columbia are closer to South America. But then again, I am a pot smoker so what would I know? :bong:

L.A. Chieffan
07-15-2008, 09:32 PM
Pretty sad but when you're under 21 it's easier to buy bud than it is bud lite.

Third Eye
07-16-2008, 01:01 AM
Pretty sad but when you're under 21 it's easier to buy bud than it is bud lite.

Why is that sad, only one of those will kill you.

Fire Me Boy!
07-16-2008, 01:37 AM
See...I'd be snorting my brains out and making reservations at Dorsia within a month.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

StcChief
07-16-2008, 08:51 AM
Hmmm, I think Mexico and Columbia are closer to South America. But then again, I am a pot smoker so what would I know? :bong:a lot of Homegrown with the good soil, green houses, farm back acreage.....

DaKCMan AP
07-16-2008, 10:31 AM
Further evidence:

A Barenaked Bust

Barenaked Ladies' singer and guitarist Steven Page was arrested Friday in upstate New York and charged with possession of cocaine, a police spokesman confirmed.

According to the Manilus Police Department, the 38-year-old musician and two women were holed up in an apartment in Fayetteville, just outside of Syracuse, at approximately 2 a.m. Friday, when a patrol unit arrived on scene to inspect a nearby car with its driver's side door left open.

While investigating the "suspicious vehicle," officers noticed Page and 25-year-old companion Stephanie Ford seated in an apartment kitchen with "an unknown white capsule in front of them." After confronting the pair, police performed a field test and determined the substance was cocaine.

The two were taken into custody and booked on felony criminal possession of a controlled substance. Ford was also charged with marijuana posession.
The third woman who resided in the apartment, 27-year-old Christine Benedicto, was not present at the time of the others' arrest. She was booked a few hours later on a misdemeanor pot-posession count.

Page was released after posting a $10,000 bond. Ford was released on $5,000 bond, and Benedicto was released on her own recognizance. All three are due in court on Thursday.

"Many of you have probably read or heard press accounts about Steven Page's recent arrest in New York State," the band says in a "note to the fans" on its website.

"Steven has pleaded not guilty to the charges against him and the validity of the charges against Steven will be strongly contested. While this is happening, it's business as usual for Barenaked Ladies."

Page cofounded the Barenaked Ladies with guitarist-singer Ed Robertson in 1988 in Toronto, and the group quickly found success in Canada after the release of their 1992 debut album, Gordon.

The Ladies broke through stateside in the late '90s with the hits "One Week" and "Pinch Me." Their latest released is the kiddie album Snacktime, which dropped in May. The band is scheduled to head into the studio later this year for a new album.


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