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Ari Chi3fs
07-15-2008, 06:49 PM
<table class="wikitable" style="float: left;"><tbody><tr><td>100</td> <td>George Brett (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Brett_%28baseball%29)</td> <td>317</td></tr></tbody></table>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_500_Major_League_Baseball_home_run_hitters

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As soon as Todd Helton gets 8 more though, he is out of top 100.

Deberg_1990
07-15-2008, 07:22 PM
A few questions:

So will A-Rod pass Bonds??

Will Thome, ManRam and Sheffield make the Hall?

StcChief
07-15-2008, 07:32 PM
I think Albert passes them. 8 years in already 300 HRs.

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=405395

Deberg_1990
07-15-2008, 07:33 PM
I think Albert passes them. 8 years in already 300 HRs.

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=405395


600 Homeruns should be what 500 homeruns used to be.

StcChief
07-15-2008, 08:01 PM
600 Homeruns should be what 500 homeruns used to be.
I agree.... 600 is the standard to measure up.

pr_capone
07-15-2008, 08:13 PM
I disagree.

500 should still be the number to shoot for.

Hitting 35 HRs per year from day 1, it would take a batter nearly 15 seasons to get to 500.

35HRs per year is nothing to sneeze at. That is a great #3 and a pretty damn good #4 batter there.

600+ per year is something that is definitely dooable, but only a select handful will ever get there.... it will be only those people who came up in the majors at a very young age and had some magical staying power that kept them in.

Deberg_1990
07-15-2008, 08:45 PM
I disagree.

500 should still be the number to shoot for.



So you want to enshrine "lunch pail" types like Thome and Palmeriro? Solid players no doubt, but Hall of Fame worthy??

RJ
07-15-2008, 09:24 PM
I'd hardly call Palmeiro and Thome "lunch pail". You're talking about elite run producers who also hit for solid averages. I'd rate Palmeiro over Thome for his glove and for being more consistent over his career but they're both HOF worthy.

Deberg_1990
07-15-2008, 09:26 PM
I'd hardly call Palmeiro and Thome "lunch pail". You're talking about elite run producers who also hit for solid averages. I'd rate Palmeiro over Thome for his glove and for being more consistent over his career but they're both HOF worthy.

Palmeiro wont get in anyways after he lied to Congress.

RJ
07-15-2008, 09:39 PM
Nah, he'll get in. He'll just have an extra long wait.

Count Zarth
07-15-2008, 09:42 PM
Ah, the overrated George Brett.

:fire:

Deberg_1990
07-15-2008, 09:56 PM
Ah, the overrated George Brett.

:fire:

Kind of like Nolan overrated Ryan.

cdcox
07-15-2008, 10:17 PM
Ah, the overrated George Brett.

:fire:

Your bait won't fish here.

ChiefsFanatic
07-15-2008, 10:27 PM
<table class="wikitable" style="float: left;"><tbody><tr><td>100</td> <td>George Brett (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Brett_%28baseball%29)</td> <td>317</td></tr></tbody></table>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_500_Major_League_Baseball_home_run_hitters

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As soon as Todd Helton gets 8 more though, he is out of top 100.

If he had started his career 10-12 years later, he would be in the mid 400s

Deberg_1990
07-15-2008, 10:28 PM
If he had started his career 10-12 years later, he would be in the mid 400s

True. Brett would probably hit .450 against todays atrocious pitching.

pr_capone
07-15-2008, 10:31 PM
So you want to enshrine "lunch pail" types like Thome and Palmeriro? Solid players no doubt, but Hall of Fame worthy??

hrm.... lemme see

Palmeiro:

Batting Average - .288
Hits - 3,020
Home runs - 569

#10 All-Time on the HR list
#23 All-Time on the Hits list
#14 All-Time on the RBI list
#10 All-Time on the Total Bases list

4x All-Star selection (1988, 1991, 1998, 1999)
3x Gold Glove Award winner (1997, 1998, 1999)
2x Silver Slugger Award winner (1998, 1999)

But yeah... I can see how you would think that he is run of the mill.

Until he shot himself in the foot with the roids bit, yeah, first ballot all the way.

Jim Thome is borderline for me. I think a likely HOF but he will wait a long while to get it.

Count Zarth
07-15-2008, 10:32 PM
Brett should consider himself lucky to be mentioned in the same sentence as Raffy Palmeiro.

Deberg_1990
07-15-2008, 10:34 PM
hrm.... lemme see

Palmeiro:

Batting Average - .288
Hits - 3,020
Home runs - 569

#10 All-Time on the HR list
#23 All-Time on the Hits list
#14 All-Time on the RBI list
#10 All-Time on the Total Bases list

4x All-Star selection (1988, 1991, 1998, 1999)
3x Gold Glove Award winner (1997, 1998, 1999)
2x Silver Slugger Award winner (1998, 1999)

But yeah... I can see how you would think that he is run of the mill.

Until he shot himself in the foot with the roids bit, yeah, first ballot all the way.

Jim Thome is borderline for me. I think a likely HOF but he will wait a long while to get it.

Did Palmeiro ever play in the postseason??

Pasta Giant Meatball
07-15-2008, 10:39 PM
True. Brett would probably hit .450 against todays atrocious pitching.

.450 eh :bong:

Demonpenz
07-15-2008, 10:42 PM
Thome is in no doubt. He leads the indians in all catagories and he didn't play there that long thome will ahve like 10 all star games and 600 homeruns at the end

pr_capone
07-15-2008, 10:44 PM
Did Palmeiro ever play in the postseason??

Yes he did... while with the Orioles in 1996. Made it to the ALCS where they were defeated by the eventual champion Yankees.

He did it again the following year (1997) where his team won the AL East Title before falling the the Indians.

Regardless, unless his TEAM makes some noise in the post season, his PERSONAL accomplishments are not enough to get him into the Hall?

Oh yeah... BTW. Only 4 players have ever hit for over 3000 hits and 500 home runs.

Hank Aaron
Willie Mays
Eddie Murray
Rafael Palmeiro

cdcox
07-15-2008, 10:47 PM
Only 4 players have ever hit for over 3000 hits and 5000 home runs.

That does seem to be a difficult task. I'm surprised anyone could do it.

ChiefsCountry
07-15-2008, 10:48 PM
Yes he did... while with the Orioles in 1996. Made it to the ALCS where they were defeated by the eventual champion Yankees.

He did it again the following year (1997) where his team won the AL East Title before falling the the Indians.

Regardless, unless his TEAM makes some noise in the post season, his PERSONAL accomplishments are not enough to get him into the Hall?

Oh yeah... BTW. Only 4 players have ever hit for over 3000 hits and 5000 home runs.

Hank Aaron
Willie Mays
Eddie Murray
Rafael Palmeiro

5000 home runs? :D

Count Zarth
07-15-2008, 10:49 PM
Juan Gonzalez is still the greatest baseball player of all time.

pr_capone
07-15-2008, 10:50 PM
That does seem to be a difficult task. I'm surprised anyone could do it.

5000 home runs? :D

LMFAO

Yeah.... typo.

3000 Hits
500 HRs

Count Zarth
07-15-2008, 11:00 PM
Raffy also had a much cooler mustache than George Brett.

ChiefsFanatic
07-15-2008, 11:11 PM
True. Brett would probably hit .450 against todays atrocious pitching.

The ball was much more lively starting in the early to mid 80s. Not only is the pitching worse now, but the ball just jumps off the bat differently.

I can only imagine how many more hits, how many more home-runs, and how many more RBIs he would have posted if he had started just 10 years later.

Also, I can only imagine what his salary would have been.

BWillie
07-15-2008, 11:33 PM
What is Joey Gathright? He's got one home run. Do your calculation

pr_capone
07-15-2008, 11:35 PM
The ball was much more lively starting in the early to mid 80s. Not only is the pitching worse now, but the ball just jumps off the bat differently.

I can only imagine how many more hits, how many more home-runs, and how many more RBIs he would have posted if he had started just 10 years later.

Also, I can only imagine what his salary would have been.

Damn.... can you imagine what Ruth's numbers would have been like if he started his career 60 years after he did?

Shorter fences and a much livelier ball than back in the day.

Aaron would probably have had damn near 900 home runs had his career started 35 years later.... probably over 4k hits as well.

Shit... Pete Rose prolly would have had over 5k hits for that matter had he faced todays pitching.

*sigh*

The Bad Guy
07-15-2008, 11:50 PM
ManRam is no doubt a sure fire first ballot HOF.

The guy is probably the best pure hitter of this generation.

ChiefsFanatic
07-15-2008, 11:58 PM
Damn.... can you imagine what Ruth's numbers would have been like if he started his career 60 years after he did?

Shorter fences and a much livelier ball than back in the day.

Aaron would probably have had damn near 900 home runs had his career started 35 years later.... probably over 4k hits as well.

Shit... Pete Rose prolly would have had over 5k hits for that matter had he faced todays pitching.

*sigh*


Ok, smartass.:mad:

Actually, Rose and Aaron would never even reach their current stats. Rose would have too much money to spend on booze and women, and betting and would have probably ended up in prison or dead. Aaron would have no need to play until he was 50, and he would have stopped taking uppers and switched to viagra.

And having met Pete Rose, it would serve him right. He is the biggest asshole I have ever met.

Miles
07-16-2008, 12:04 AM
Damn.... can you imagine what Ruth's numbers would have been like if he started his career 60 years after he did?

Shorter fences and a much livelier ball than back in the day.



And he would have to play in a league that had a larger talent pool that just white guys.

pr_capone
07-16-2008, 12:10 AM
And he would have to play in a league that had a larger talent pool that just white guys.

Yeah.... but there were way fewer teams back in the day so the talent pool is not as diluted as it is today.

:D

ChiefsFanatic
07-16-2008, 12:13 AM
And he would have to play in a league that had a larger talent pool that just white guys.

Babe Ruth was Josh Gibson's bitch.

Jayhawkerman2001
07-16-2008, 01:33 AM
A few questions:

So will A-Rod pass Bonds??

Will Thome, ManRam and Sheffield make the Hall?

yes A-Rod will pass bonds. Thome and Sheffield will not make the hall, manny most likely will because of everybody's lovefest with the redsox

Jayhawkerman2001
07-16-2008, 01:40 AM
Damn.... can you imagine what Ruth's numbers would have been like if he started his career 60 years after he did?

Shorter fences and a much livelier ball than back in the day.

Aaron would probably have had damn near 900 home runs had his career started 35 years later.... probably over 4k hits as well.

Shit... Pete Rose prolly would have had over 5k hits for that matter had he faced todays pitching.

*sigh*

eh im not so sure about that really. The art of pitching has changed so much that its almost not comparable. Pitchers are so much better now with many more pitches in their assortment

pr_capone
07-16-2008, 07:23 AM
eh im not so sure about that really. The art of pitching has changed so much that its almost not comparable. Pitchers are so much better now with many more pitches in their assortment


I was being sarcastic.

I hate it when people say.... can you imagine if so and so played then / now... and how their stats would be amazing because of the change of time.... especially when they do it to prove a "point".

It makes no sense to make the comparison as it is impossible and never has and never will happen. Even if it did, we cannot even begin to guess the results so why even bring it up when making an argument about best players?

:D