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Huffman83
07-16-2008, 09:59 PM
I'm not even saying for the Chiefs.

But what do you guys think he's worth for whatever team. Keep in mind the 12 million is still what you'd have to pay him.

I say 5th round pick. Whether it's the Vikings, KC, Tampa etc....

88TG88
07-16-2008, 10:01 PM
edit: 6th

Dunit35
07-16-2008, 10:16 PM
6th, up to a 3rd if I had the cap space and was a QB away from a title.

RNR
07-16-2008, 10:19 PM
If they were dumb enough to trade with the Vikings which they are not I would guess a top three would hit the table

Guru
07-16-2008, 10:22 PM
nothing

Huffman83
07-16-2008, 10:24 PM
I should add...in the likeliness of Favre being traded!

What's he worth?

Douche Baggins
07-16-2008, 10:27 PM
A first.

Bump
07-16-2008, 10:28 PM
I would trade Damon Huard straight up for him

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2008, 10:30 PM
The same as what was given for Trent Green: A conditional 5th that could become a 4th.

He's older than TG and even though he's not coming off a significant injury, at his age, his body could break down at any moment.

Huffman83
07-16-2008, 10:31 PM
A first.


cute....

RNR
07-16-2008, 10:33 PM
The same as what was given for Trent Green: A conditional 5th that could become a 4th.

He's older than TG and even though he's not coming off a significant injury, at his age, his body could break down at any moment.

Agree unless it is a team that feels they are a QB away. Supply and demand.

dorseybowe
07-16-2008, 10:37 PM
A 5th is far too low. Despite his age, Favre had one of his best statistical season's last year. Reasonable compensation would probably be a 2nd or 3rd.

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2008, 10:38 PM
Agree unless it is a team that feels they are a QB away. Supply and demand.

Or a team that needs to fill a stadium...

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2008, 10:39 PM
A 5th is far too low. Despite his age, Favre had one of his best statistical season's last year. Reasonable compensation would probably be a 2nd or 3rd.

A 39 year-old's body can inexplicably breakdown at any point.

I'm not denying the fact that Favre may be worth a 2nd or 3rd, but any team that would send that would be foolish.

Conditional 5th.

Huffman83
07-16-2008, 10:40 PM
Or a team that needs to fill a stadium...


Damn you Carl!!!!:mad:

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2008, 10:41 PM
Damn you Carl!!!!:mad:

:evil:

dorseybowe
07-16-2008, 10:48 PM
A 39 year-old's body can inexplicably breakdown at any point.

I'm not denying the fact that Favre may be worth a 2nd or 3rd, but any team that would send that would be foolish.

Conditional 5th.

Favre's body hasn't shown any of those signs that a breakdown is near at all. He isn't Trent Green, coming off a concussion and a bad year. He's Brett Favre, coming off a healthy and probowl year.

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2008, 10:53 PM
Favre's body hasn't shown any of those signs that a breakdown is near at all. He isn't Trent Green, coming off a concussion and a bad year. He's Brett Favre, coming off a healthy and probowl year.

I understand that.

But 17 years of Pro Football can have a way of suddenly sneaking up on someone.

Quickly.

Guru
07-16-2008, 10:54 PM
I understand that.

But 17 years of Pro Football can have a way of suddenly sneaking up on someone.

Quickly.

IF he is smart, questionable, he wouldn't want anything to do with KC, Herm Edwards and our O line.

Huffman83
07-16-2008, 10:58 PM
I'd be highly surprised if Favre ended up in KC. I wouldn't want KC to pay him 12 million when we have Hali and DJ coming into contract years soon.

If he did come here, I expect nothing less than an appearance in the AFC championship game. Especially at the coin owed to him by GB.

dorseybowe
07-16-2008, 11:06 PM
I understand that.

But 17 years of Pro Football can have a way of suddenly sneaking up on someone.

Quickly.
In my opinion, only justifying his age as the reason he's worth a fifth round pick is bad judgment. It's assuming something to happen that hasn't happened. I would agree with you if either of the following were the case:

1) His play was sub par last season
2) His health was sub par last season

That didn't happen last year for Favre. Ok, he's 39. Well, he was fine when he was 38.

KCrockaholic
07-16-2008, 11:07 PM
id give GB King Carl anyday for brett favre

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2008, 11:13 PM
In my opinion, only justifying his age as the reason he's worth a fifth round pick is bad judgment. It's assuming something to happen that hasn't happened. I would agree with you if either of the following were the case:

1) His play was sub par last season
2) His health was sub par last season

That didn't happen last year for Favre. Ok, he's 39. Well, he was fine when he was 38.

When he was 36, he led his team to a 4-12 record. His passer rating was 70.9

When he was 37, he led his team to an 8-8 record. His passer rating was 72.7.

There's a very good chance that last year was an aberration, especially given his age.

Anything higher than a 4th could be a very costly mistake for some franchise.

Guru
07-16-2008, 11:18 PM
When he was 36, he led his team to a 4-12 record. His passer rating was 70.9

When he was 37, he led his team to an 8-8 record. His passer rating was 72.7.

There's a very good chance that last year was an aberration, especially given his age.

Anything higher than a 4th could be a very costly mistake for some franchise.

Damnit!!! Somebody get rid of Carl NOW!!!

Spott
07-16-2008, 11:19 PM
A partially used loaf of bread.

Guru
07-16-2008, 11:20 PM
A partially used loaf of bread.

Going for the yeast infection huh.

Huffman83
07-16-2008, 11:22 PM
I maintain my offer. A fifth!

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-RMGS-product/Jack%20Daniels%20Whiskey.jpg

Spott
07-16-2008, 11:24 PM
Going for the yeast infection huh.

Anything that penicillin will cure.

dorseybowe
07-16-2008, 11:28 PM
When he was 36, he led his team to a 4-12 record. His passer rating was 70.9

When he was 37, he led his team to an 8-8 record. His passer rating was 72.7.

There's a very good chance that last year was an aberration, especially given his age.

Anything higher than a 4th could be a very costly mistake for some franchise.

A 5th, or even a 4th, is close to absolutely nothing. Players from those rounds rarely pan out. You can call Favre's season last year whatever you want to. A fourth round pick is not equal compensation for a 2008 probowler.

Huffman83
07-16-2008, 11:31 PM
A 5th, or even a 4th, is close to absolutely nothing. Players from those rounds rarely pan out. You can call Favre's season last year whatever you want to. A fourth round pick is not equal compensation for a 2008 probowler.


It is for a 39 year old Pro Bowler who is due 12 million.

dorseybowe
07-16-2008, 11:33 PM
It is for a 39 year old Pro Bowler who is due 12 million.

Twelve million isn't that outrageous.

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2008, 11:34 PM
A 5th, or even a 4th, is close to absolutely nothing. Players from those rounds rarely pan out.

Absolutely, unequivocally, untrue. Third, fourth and fifth round players (not to mention 6th round players) can provide depth and fortify special teams. One look around the league (and look no further than the Super Bowl winning Giants) for proof.

You can call Favre's season last year whatever you want to. A fourth round pick is not equal compensation for a 2008 probowler.

Any team that trades for Favre HAS to take into account his age and mileage. While Joe Fan expects Favre to be himself after 17 years and never missing a start, his body may not comply.

How many 39 year old QB's have ever played at a high level in the NFL? Especially over a 16 game season?

Huffman83
07-16-2008, 11:35 PM
Twelve million isn't that outrageous.

Yes...it is.

blueballs
07-16-2008, 11:42 PM
What would you give up for favre to go away
FYT

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2008, 11:44 PM
Yes...it is.

I disagree.

The salary cap is $109 million and next year, it's projected to be $120 million.

I don't think that $12 million is too much to a pay a QB, if you think he's going to take you deep into the playoffs and possibly the Super Bowl.

The risk with Favre lies (IMO) is with his durability at age 39 and his prior reluctance to study film to be a disciplined player (he's admitted as such). Until he studied film and became a true believer in McCarthy's system last offseason, he was headed towards another 70 passer rating in 2007.

So unless he goes to a team with the same terminology and philosophy, he may have an extremely difficult season.

Injury or not.

Huffman83
07-16-2008, 11:48 PM
I disagree.

The salary cap is $109 million and next year, it's projected to be $120 million.

I don't think that $12 million is too much to a pay a QB, if you think he's going to take you deep into the playoffs and possibly the Super Bowl.

The risk with Favre lies (IMO) is with his durability at age 39 and his prior reluctance to study film to be a disciplined player (he's admitted as such). Until he studied film and became a true believer in McCarthy's system last offseason, he was headed towards another 70 passer rating in 2007.

So unless he goes to a team with the same terminology and philosophy, he may have an extremely difficult season.

Injury or not.

Like I said...if he took any team to the SB...money well spent...but for a one year? C'mon!

Too many if's though.

and btw...do you do stats for the NFL or what!?!?

DaneMcCloud
07-17-2008, 12:15 AM
and btw...do you do stats for the NFL or what!?!?

:D

Nah, I just like to verify my opinion with stats from NFL.com.

Otherwise, I'm just expressing an opinion which can't be supported by factual information.

In other words, bullshit :evil:

Huffman83
07-17-2008, 12:17 AM
Well played.....

DaneMcCloud
07-17-2008, 12:20 AM
Well played.....

You forgot the most important word in that phrase.

Costanza!

KCCHIEFS27
07-17-2008, 01:10 AM
Larry Johnson for Favre and a 3rd round draft pick..

Subterranean Alien
07-17-2008, 02:01 AM
I'd be highly surprised if Favre ended up in KC. I wouldn't want KC to pay him 12 million when we have Hali and DJ coming into contract years soon.

If he did come here, I expect nothing less than an appearance in the AFC championship game. Especially at the coin owed to him by GB.

Don't worry, Favre doesn't fit into KC's particularly conservative offensive game plan. I'm hoping they'll let Croyle make passes of more than 10 yards down the field this year, but we'll see.

ChiTown
07-17-2008, 07:49 AM
$0.50 and a warm bottle of pee.

Chiefnj2
07-17-2008, 07:56 AM
For someone like the Vikings I think Favre would be worth a 3rd rounder that could move up to a 2nd rounder if he plays 80% of the snaps and the Vikings make the NFC championship game.

PGM
07-17-2008, 09:22 AM
Larry Johnson for Favre and a 3rd round draft pick..

This isn't madden here :D

rambleonthruthefog
07-17-2008, 10:20 AM
brodie croyle

Dave Lane
07-17-2008, 10:50 AM
Broccoli

Dave

And I hate broccoli

StcChief
07-17-2008, 10:53 AM
Greg Wesley

Pestilence
07-17-2008, 11:32 AM
A conditional 3rd.

CoMoChief
07-17-2008, 11:34 AM
5th at the very most.

OnTheWarpath58
07-17-2008, 11:50 AM
Nothing.