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markk
07-22-2008, 09:57 AM
Terrorists' assignment: Protect Barack Obama
Posted: July 20, 2008
9:05 pm Eastern
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70124

By Aaron Klein
2008 WorldNetDaily

JERUSALEM Members of the most active West Bank terror organization are set to serve in security forces being deployed to protect Sen. Barack Obama during his trip to the West Bank tomorrow, WND has learned.

Obama is due to visit Israeli officials in Jerusalem and leaders of the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank city of Ramallah as part of a wider Middle Eastern and European tour that includes Jordan, France and Germany.

According to security officials coordinating deployments of forces with the PA for Obama's Ramallah visit, members of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, Fatah's declared military wing, have been called upon by the PA to participate in the protection of Obama, particularly in securing the perimeter during a scheduled meeting with PA President Mahmoud Abbas.

The Brigades is listed as a terror organization by the U.S. State Department. The group took credit along with the Islamic Jihad terror organization for every suicide bombing in Israel between 2005 and 2006 and is responsible for thousands of shootings and rocket firings. Statistically, the Al Aqsa Brigades perpetuated more terrorism from the West Bank than Hamas, according to the Israeli Defense Forces.

Brigades leaders, speaking to WND on condition of anonymity, confirmed they will participate in protecting Obama as official members of the PA's security forces.

Many Brigades members, including the group's chiefs, serve openly in Fatah's Force 17 presidential guard units and the Palestinian Preventative Security Services; hundreds of Force 17 and Preventative officers are slated to secure Ramallah during Obama's visit there.

The Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades members are slated to serve in a third ring of security forces patrolling the periphery of Abbas' Ramallah compound during the Palestinian leader's meeting with Obama.

The Israeli Defense Forces, working with U.S. security coordinators, will protect the main West Bank highway Obama's convoy will use to approach Ramallah. Security for Obama will be largely turned over to the Palestinians once he enters Ramallah, although security plans are being heavily coordinated with the U.S.

Various high-profile Al Aqsa Brigades terrorists serve in Fatah's security forces, including those in Ramallah. The current chief of Fatah's Force 17, Abu Hayyet, is accused by Israel of planning or involvement in at least 10 deadly terror attacks, according to Israeli security officials.

Abbas previously appointed senior Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades leader Mahmoud Damra as commander of Force 17, a major, U.S.-financed Fatah security force. Damra, who was arrested by Israel last November, was on the Jewish state's most-wanted list of terrorists.

The chief of the Brigades in Ramallah also serves in the Preventative Security Services.

Both Israeli and Palestinian security officials, speaking to WND, said there was no known threat to Obama.

Al Aqsa Brigades members doubling as PA security officers previously participated in security for other visiting U.S. officials without incident.

One Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades member who doubles as a PA security force officer and who is set to protect Obama, joked if there was any threat to the presidential candidate it will come from Israel:

"Maybe the Israelis will try something because of Obama's policy on Israel, which the Zionists don't like, but we will certainly protect Obama. We are professional security forces," the Al Aqsa member said.

The information Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades members will protect Obama comes after Israel announced last week it arrested six Arabs who allegedly were plotting to assassinate President Bush on behalf of al-Qaida.

Israel's Shin Bet Security Services released for publication that it had arrested six Arabs two of them Israeli citizens and the other four Palestinian residents of eastern Jerusalem for attempting to set up an al-Qaida cell with plans to shoot down Bush's helicopter during the president's recent visit to Israel.

whatsmynameagain
07-22-2008, 10:30 AM
obama doesn't go around acting a fool and making threats so people all over respect him. he will be amazing in getting some serious diplomacy rolling.Posted via Mobile Device

HonestChieffan
07-22-2008, 10:32 AM
He is parting the red sea for rebroadcast at 6pm.

irishjayhawk
07-22-2008, 11:38 AM
I don't know. It seems like you're conflating "terrorist group" with the likes of AQ. That is, there are some terrorist groups that are merely a militia serving a common purpose. I would be our army during the Revolutionary War would be classified a terrorist group by todays standards.

If terrorist groups think there is a possibility of change with a new President, it makes sense to cater to him.

HonestChieffan
07-22-2008, 11:44 AM
Terrorist groups by any name are terrorists.

markk
07-22-2008, 11:48 AM
Terrorist groups by any name are terrorists.

well, i dont think it's that the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade is guarding him, just that among those who are guarding him, there are known members of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade.

I didn't post this as some kind of implied endorsement of Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. I just think it sounds like a very bad idea.

It speaks to judgment, if this was known beforehand. Would you trust an internationally recognized terrorist organization with your life? That seems like pretty poor judgment.

If you have nothing to fear from them, or in fact they love you, that says something else I suppose.

Saggysack
07-22-2008, 11:51 AM
WorldNetDaily? Are you ****ing shitting me? Could you find alittle more biased source? You actually believe their shit, don't you?

HonestChieffan
07-22-2008, 11:54 AM
Kos must not be covering it

markk
07-22-2008, 11:54 AM
WorldNetDaily? Are you ****ing shitting me? Could you find alittle more biased source? You actually believe their shit, don't you?

Not really. I don't consider it substantiated since the article just says that they confirmed it without going into specifics. I just thought it was an interesting topic.

Dave Lane
07-22-2008, 01:07 PM
Terrorist groups by any name are terrorists.

:) :)

What a stooge

Hog Farmer
07-22-2008, 01:12 PM
Hmmmm...... Terrorists protecting Obama........ Looks to me like the cats out of the bag! Oh wait. Maybe they're confused and think it's Osama.

Taco John
07-22-2008, 01:14 PM
Terrorist groups by any name are terrorists.

Question for you:

Was Samuel Adams a terrorist?

HC_Chief
07-22-2008, 01:16 PM
Question for you:

Was Samuel Adams a terrorist?

Anyone who brews and consumes beer cannot be considered a terrorist. It's a man law. Look it up.

Fish
07-22-2008, 01:26 PM
OMG! The words Obama and terrorist in the same sentence? Evil!

Nevermind that it's the Palestinian Authority manning and coordinating the event. Or that those "terrorists" are there for the protection of everyone, not just Obama. Or that this is standard procedure and that's the way it's been for a long time.

It's quite a stretch trying to connect Obama and "terrorists" in this situation...

Al Aqsa Brigades members doubling as PA security officers previously participated in security for other visiting U.S. officials without incident.

:hmmm:

irishjayhawk
07-22-2008, 01:31 PM
Question for you:

Was Samuel Adams a terrorist?

Point in case. Though I might have gone with others... :)

mlyonsd
07-22-2008, 01:33 PM
Question for you:

Was Samuel Adams a terrorist?

Did he specifically target civilians to be murdered?

Adept Havelock
07-22-2008, 01:37 PM
Did he specifically target civilians to be murdered?

OK, how about members of the various European resistance movements throughout occupied Europe during WW2? They often targeted civilians that were collaborating with the occupying government.

Also, is targeting civilians for "murder" the sole qualifying point, or would attempts to sow terror, destroy property, etc. qualify one as a terrorist?

HolmeZz
07-22-2008, 01:38 PM
MUST

DEMONIZE

HUSSEIN-OBAMA

irishjayhawk
07-22-2008, 01:40 PM
Did he specifically target civilians to be murdered?

I don't know. He could have targeted loyalists.

alanm
07-22-2008, 01:42 PM
Interesting.

mlyonsd
07-22-2008, 01:53 PM
OK, how about members of the various European resistance movements throughout occupied Europe during WW2? They often targeted civilians that were collaborating with the occupying government.

Also, is targeting civilians for "murder" the sole qualifying point, or would attempts to sow terror, destroy property, etc. qualify one as a terrorist?

To the first question...my answer would be no since the collaboraters were working with invaders.

To the second, I'd say destroying property doesn't rise to the level. Lopping off hands or feet would though.

Remember, this is just my opinion. Everyone probably has their own.

irishjayhawk
07-22-2008, 01:54 PM
MUST

DEMONIZE

HUSSEIN-OBAMA

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mlyonsd
07-22-2008, 01:56 PM
MUST

DEMONIZE

HUSSEIN-OBAMA

Politics aside don't you find it interesting, if true, a government official soon to be elected president was being partially defended by a group our State department considers a terrorist group?

I wonder if that's ever happened before.

SBK
07-22-2008, 01:57 PM
It's much easier to play this:

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Copyright infringement. Bootlegger.

Hog Farmer
07-22-2008, 02:18 PM
Question for you:

Was Samuel Adams a terrorist?


Samuel Adams was a beer you dumbass!

Fish
07-22-2008, 03:02 PM
Politics aside don't you find it interesting, if true, a government official soon to be elected president was being partially defended by a group our State department considers a terrorist group?

I wonder if that's ever happened before.

Gosh.... we'll never know....

Al Aqsa Brigades members doubling as PA security officers previously participated in security for other visiting U.S. officials without incident.

Ultra Peanut
07-22-2008, 03:21 PM
fukken lovin' this thread