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Bill Lundberg
07-23-2008, 10:51 AM
I kind of think we need to make a serious effort to win our pre-season games this year to get the team off on the right foot. I know they don't mean anything, but I feel on a young team it's important to start the regular season with a winning attitude.

Thoughts?

Stinger
07-23-2008, 10:58 AM
IMO .... Winning this year in preseason is no different than any other year. It is always good to win but as in all the other preseasons I am more focused to see our younger guys get some game experience. Winning all your preseason games does not mean you will be good in the regular season. What I would like to see is a win that they were able to hold on or maintain unlike the regular season last year.

Rausch
07-23-2008, 11:09 AM
They're everything as far as evaluation goes.

As far as wins I couldn't care less.

Croyle MUST play well and our defense needs to gel quick...

Fish
07-23-2008, 11:11 AM
Preseason is about getting young players game-time experience and adjusting to the atmosphere of game day. Seeing how they do under the stadium lights as opposed to the practice field. The outcome of the game doesn't matter, and it never will. If it did matter, they would play the first team units the entire game and actually try to win.

luv
07-23-2008, 11:14 AM
Anyone planning on going to the preseason game against Arizona on the 16th?

Bill Lundberg
07-23-2008, 11:17 AM
You don't think it's important for this young team coming off of a 4 -12 season in which they lost their last 9 straight games to get a couple of wins under their belts? I think it is important this year just to get a little swagger back. Say they lose 4 straight in the preseason. Then this team hasn't tasted victory in thirteen straight games. Dating back to October 21, 2007.

luv
07-23-2008, 11:20 AM
You don't think it's important for this young team coming off of a 4 -12 season in which they lost their last 9 straight games to get a couple of wins under their belts? I think it is important this year just to get a little swagger back. Say they lose 4 straight in the preseason. Then this team hasn't tasted victory in thirteen straight games. Dating back to October 21, 2007.

Even if they do win, it's our youth playing their youth. A win isn't going to tell us anything about the regular season. I agree that it would be cool for the newer ones to experience, but it's our vets who will be out there come opening day.

Stinger
07-23-2008, 11:24 AM
Anyone planning on going to the preseason game against Arizona on the 16th?

I am

markk
07-23-2008, 11:25 AM
i'd treat them just like a practice.

Bill Lundberg
07-23-2008, 11:25 AM
I must not be making my point. I don't think a pre-season win means jack shit in terms of what the regular season will be like. I think it is imperative to the attitude of the team. Not for the rookies but for the guys who lost 9 straight games last year. To get the monkey off their back.

Ebolapox
07-23-2008, 11:25 AM
I could care less. sure, it's important to evaluate the youth we have, but as far as winning, it'll come in time if we rebuild this thing right. short term failure < long term success

RedandGold
07-23-2008, 11:28 AM
For me, I don't care as much about the final score of preseason games as I do about how well the starters perform while they're on the field.

W-L record in preseason doesn't mean jack.

Stinger
07-23-2008, 11:34 AM
I must not be making my point. I don't think a pre-season win means jack shit in terms of what the regular season will be like. I think it is imperative to the attitude of the team. Not for the rookies but for the guys who lost 9 straight games last year. To get the monkey off their back.


Attitude I understand. I also think that the monkey off the back mentality is more of/for the fans than the players. Players must think they can win every game because if not, there is a deeper issue and problem. Not to mention if your 3rd string loses it on the final drive or late in the 4th quarter, but you were excuting your game plan all game and had the lead most of the game I think the players would take more of that than a win or loss.

luv
07-23-2008, 11:37 AM
I am

I'll be in KC for that entire weekend. I'll have to look you up. Are you tailgating? Funny, two people from Springfield would have to go to KC to meet before a game.

Fish
07-23-2008, 11:38 AM
Attitude I understand. I also think that the monkey off the back mentality is more of/for the fans than the players. Players must think they can win every game because if not, there is a deeper issue and problem. Not to mention if your 3rd string loses it on the final drive or late in the 4th quarter, but you were excuting your game plan all game and had the lead most of the game I think the players would take more of that than a win or loss.

There you go....

The players can still get the needed attitude adjustment and still lose the game.

Chiefnj2
07-23-2008, 11:43 AM
Do we get to continually hear the excuse: "they are just playing vanilla offense and defense so they don't tip off the opposition during the regular season. Wait until week one, they will really open things up."?

Consistent1
07-23-2008, 11:48 AM
I agree with trying to win everything. They don't have to give LJ 20 carries, or any goofy shit like that, but they do need to get a winning attitude IMO.

Stinger
07-23-2008, 11:49 AM
I'll be in KC for that entire weekend. I'll have to look you up. Are you tailgating? Funny, two people from Springfield would have to go to KC to meet before a game.

Be glad to meet up depending what the plans are (for my family) before the game. Durring the regular season we usally drive up early (sunday and tailgate a little) depending on what time we leave from Springfield. For the preseason game usally take the family up to KC for the weekend and they enjoy KC and some friends we have up there and my son and I go to the game.

Also if work doesn't interfere I may try to get to Nzoner bash this year.

Funny, two people from Springfield would have to go to KC to meet before a game.

ROFL ROFL Got to keep the Springfield tradition alive

dorseybowe
07-23-2008, 11:51 AM
I hope they win all of them.

SBK
07-23-2008, 11:57 AM
I hope Herm puts more emphasis on the preseason this year than he has in the past. It'd be nice if our team was actually ready to play before week 3 of the regular season. (which is when I'll be seeing the team live).....

Redrum_69
07-23-2008, 11:58 AM
almost as important as all the other previous preseason games

Dayze
07-23-2008, 12:12 PM
Offensively: I think it's important that the players as a unit, can understand and implement a new offensive scheme. Obviously, Albert needs to get in as soon as possible to make an effective transition to a completely 'new' position; a position of huge responsibility. On the flip-side, we must see if McIntosh is effective at RT. Niswanger will be a big position to watch (new center, new calls, new offense etc).

Defensively: I think the play of the DL is the thing to watch most. Particularly if Hali can handle being 'the guy' when it comes to getting outside pressure. If he can't get presurre 1 on 1, I think we have some concerns. Hopefully the addition of Dorsey (assuming he's signed in time) will have an impact on the opposing Offenses blocking calls, as well as provide push up the middle on passing plays and fills on running plays. LB play will be interesting to watch. Particularly the play of DJ to see if he makes the next step. By all measure, he should become an impact player (hopefuly Dorsey will allow him to fill/spill to the plays). CB & Safety is my biggest concern simply because of lack of experience. Pollard, in my mind, is not the answer at S. He plays well near the line, but in space is a bit of a liability & seems to chose bad angles/reads in coverage. Hoepfully DL can get some upfield pressure to force some early throws. I don't know enough about Flowers to comment yet.

ST: Kicker; period. Gotta get a guy in here that can consistently make those FGs in the 42-47yd range.

My $.02.

Buehler445
07-23-2008, 12:21 PM
I think since so many positions are new, the starters should play longer than normal. I'll take any experience these guys can get. As far as the vanilla BS, we're not winning anything. See if the bastards can execute a shift without a damn penalty *cough* PARKER *cough*Posted via Mobile Device

Saulbadguy
07-23-2008, 12:22 PM
Anyone planning on going to the preseason game against Arizona on the 16th?

ROFL

milkman
07-23-2008, 12:30 PM
For me, I don't care as much about the final score of preseason games as I do about how well the starters perform while they're on the field.

W-L record in preseason doesn't mean jack.

Agreed.

I'd like to see us come away with a lead in the first half of the 3rd game.

blueballs
07-23-2008, 12:36 PM
someone needs to research season W-L records
and how they correlate to govenor cup win pre-seasons
maybe they get too satisfied with smearing st louis

Hog Farmer
07-23-2008, 12:38 PM
I must not be making my point. I don't think a pre-season win means jack shit in terms of what the regular season will be like. I think it is imperative to the attitude of the team. Not for the rookies but for the guys who lost 9 straight games last year. To get the monkey off their back.

I agree we need a preseason win or 4 because we're gonna get the shit kicked out of us in week1.

And week 2
And week 3
And week 4
And week 5

Well.... it's just gonna suck !

FAX
07-23-2008, 12:42 PM
Last year's pre-season was kind of confusing. Herm downplays the win/loss deal, and rightfully so, but we spent a lot of time evaluating people who had no chance whatsoever of making the team. I guess they were showcasing those guys for other organizations.

This year, I hope they get their heads on straight and focus on solidifying and coordinating this new o-line and getting the defense thinking as one unit. Those are the keys to our season, in my view.

FAX

Coogs
07-23-2008, 12:43 PM
Personally, I think this years pre-season games are very important. I know you run the risk of injury by playing starters in games that don't count come September. But by the same token, we have 4 "new" starters on the offensive line that need time to gel. And we have a young QB... Croyle... that has not had the luxury of working with LJ as his RB. I'd give Croyle and the O-line a half in every game.... and open up the playbook a bit with them as well. Who give a darn if New England picks up on a thing or two.

LJ and Gonzo I would give a quarter then turn it over to the younger guys. Bowe maybe a bit longer.


Younger guys trying to earn a roster spot are playing earlier in the game this year anyway. They rest of the guys have already been here for a year or two.

And even if it is only the pre-season, wins are important this year.

JMO

gblowfish
07-23-2008, 12:44 PM
I always sell my pre-season tickets to my pal Mr. Doggity. He takes his kids.

I have a hard time paying $100 plus parking to watch them practice.

FAX
07-23-2008, 12:46 PM
Offensively: I think it's important that the players as a unit, can understand and implement a new offensive scheme. Obviously, Albert needs to get in as soon as possible to make an effective transition to a completely 'new' position; a position of huge responsibility. On the flip-side, we must see if McIntosh is effective at RT. Niswanger will be a big position to watch (new center, new calls, new offense etc).

Defensively: I think the play of the DL is the thing to watch most. Particularly if Hali can handle being 'the guy' when it comes to getting outside pressure. If he can't get presurre 1 on 1, I think we have some concerns. Hopefully the addition of Dorsey (assuming he's signed in time) will have an impact on the opposing Offenses blocking calls, as well as provide push up the middle on passing plays and fills on running plays. LB play will be interesting to watch. Particularly the play of DJ to see if he makes the next step. By all measure, he should become an impact player (hopefuly Dorsey will allow him to fill/spill to the plays). CB & Safety is my biggest concern simply because of lack of experience. Pollard, in my mind, is not the answer at S. He plays well near the line, but in space is a bit of a liability & seems to chose bad angles/reads in coverage. Hoepfully DL can get some upfield pressure to force some early throws. I don't know enough about Flowers to comment yet.

ST: Kicker; period. Gotta get a guy in here that can consistently make those FGs in the 42-47yd range.

My $.02.

Good post, even at that price, Mr. dayzeofthenew. Speaking of the D, Gunther also has to figure out a way to get a linebacker into the quarterback's face. I have a suspicion that we're going to need a dependable blitz or two to make this thing work.

FAX

FAX
07-23-2008, 12:52 PM
I always sell my pre-season tickets to my pal Mr. Doggity. He takes his kids.

I have a hard time paying $100 plus parking to watch them practice.

Holy Half-Hearted Homefield Hysteria!!!

Gee whillikers, Mr. gblowfish. If I had your seats, I'd never miss a game. Or, at least, I'd sell them for a lot more than 100 bucks.

FAX

biggunns
07-23-2008, 12:53 PM
You cant get your " swagger" back by winning a preseason game that means nothing....:hmmm:

Coogs
07-23-2008, 12:57 PM
You cant get your " swagger" back by winning a preseason game that means nothing....:hmmm:

No you can't, I agree. But you can slide further into your losing ways. Especially if the starting units continue to bumble their way through those games.

DaneMcCloud
07-23-2008, 01:14 PM
I must not be making my point. I don't think a pre-season win means jack shit in terms of what the regular season will be like. I think it is imperative to the attitude of the team. Not for the rookies but for the guys who lost 9 straight games last year. To get the monkey off their back.

Well, there aren't too many of those guys left, so that shouldn't be a concern.

I think they're important because the team needs to establish some sort of consistency with first-team players. By that I mean that the same offense line is out on the field every time Croyle's on the field. It would be nice if at least TG, D-Bowe and LJ were out there for a quarter in the 2nd & 3rd games.

The defense needs to find its groove. The defensive line is essentially new, with guys playing different positions from last year.

The longer the first team units are on the field together, the better.

KCrockaholic
07-23-2008, 01:51 PM
We NEED to win some pre-season games...hopefully 3. This young team needs to become accustomed to winning, and get a sense of what it feels like. It all starts in the pre-season this year...Now if this was 5 years ago when we were as old as the 1st frankenstein.pre-season wouldnt matter so much, because that older team already knows what its like to win.

FAX
07-23-2008, 01:53 PM
Well, there aren't too many of those guys left, so that shouldn't be a concern.

I think they're important because the team needs to establish some sort of consistency with first-team players. By that I mean that the same offense line is out on the field every time Croyle's on the field. It would be nice if at least TG, D-Bowe and LJ were out there for a quarter in the 2nd & 3rd games.

The defense needs to find its groove. The defensive line is essentially new, with guys playing different positions from last year.

The longer the first team units are on the field together, the better.

Exactly.

FAX

Mecca
07-23-2008, 01:55 PM
With a team like the Chiefs the best thing you can hope for out of preseason is some UDFA guys really shine making the draft class better.

Coogs
07-23-2008, 07:11 PM
With a team like the Chiefs the best thing you can hope for out of preseason is some UDFA guys really shine making the draft class better.



I think we may see two make a run at the team anyway. Cox at FB and Leggett at CB. Could be more, but I expect to see those two make a good run at making the team.

Hydrae
07-23-2008, 07:27 PM
We NEED to win some pre-season games...hopefully 3. This young team needs to become accustomed to winning, and get a sense of what it feels like. It all starts in the pre-season this year...Now if this was 5 years ago when we were as old as the 1st frankenstein.pre-season wouldnt matter so much, because that older team already knows what its like to win.

I completely agree with this post. Losing can become a habit and the sooner we break that habit the more likely we can keep the suicide watches around here to a minimum this season. :)

OnTheWarpath58
07-23-2008, 07:32 PM
Last year's pre-season was kind of confusing. Herm downplays the win/loss deal, and rightfully so, but we spent a lot of time evaluating people who had no chance whatsoever of making the team. I guess they were showcasing those guys for other organizations.

This year, I hope they get their heads on straight and focus on solidifying and coordinating this new o-line and getting the defense thinking as one unit. Those are the keys to our season, in my view.

FAX

I think he downplayed the W/L because:

1) These games are about evaluation, not wins. If teams were that worried about winning, they'd play starters the entire game. They need to see everyone in game situations, and sometimes, that gets in the way of a win.

2) We realistically played well enough to win the first two. A bunch of guys that didn't even make the team gave up a kick return TD to lose to Cleveland, and even after that, we STILL had a chance to win, until a QB who didn't make the team fumbled the snap on the 3 yard line.

Should have won against Miami as well, that Miami TD call should have been overturned, it was beyond obvious to even the ESPN crew that the call was botched.

Bottom line, wins don't matter in PS.

evolve27
07-23-2008, 08:46 PM
Last year I think Jeff Terrel(right name I think), Printers, some MLB(forgot his name) not Nate Harris, some DL played well against other scrubs but were still cut. All in all, I think most of the players will be cut that get to showcase against other scrubs in preseason.

blueballs
07-23-2008, 08:50 PM
i better start printing out a cheat sheet now
I couldn't point out or name half the assumed starters
let alone the training camp crowd

Coogs
07-23-2008, 08:53 PM
2) We realistically played well enough to win the first two. A bunch of guys that didn't even make the team gave up a kick return TD to lose to Cleveland, and even after that, we STILL had a chance to win, until a QB who didn't make the team fumbled the snap on the 3 yard line.

Should have won against Miami as well, that Miami TD call should have been overturned, it was beyond obvious to even the ESPN crew that the call was botched.

And this was sort of the pattern we followed during the regular season as well. We found ways to lose games during the regular season as well. I agree with a couple of the other posters. This pre-season we need to start establishing a bit of a winning pattern. If nothing more than to break our losing ways.

kcchiefsus
07-23-2008, 09:20 PM
Even if they do win, it's our youth playing their youth. A win isn't going to tell us anything about the regular season. I agree that it would be cool for the newer ones to experience, but it's our vets who will be out there come opening day.

Plenty of our starters or big time contributors on opening day will be rookies or 2nd year players.

Fish
07-23-2008, 09:39 PM
You have to remember too that preseason games are generally used to evaluate backup positions. And the players know this. A guaranteed started is likely much less critical of the outcome of the game.

FAX
07-23-2008, 09:52 PM
Quite so, Mr. KC Fish. Clearly, a team will normally use the pre-season, at least in part, for the purpose of establishing or fine-tuning the depth chart. In our case, however, the o-line is going to require significant PT in order to develop cohesion and gelerize because the line is so young and several of the guys are playing out of their traditional positions. The defense will also need time on the field in game situations. I can easily envision a variety of scenarios in which a mis-communication on defense due to youth and/or inexperience leads to long, mind-numbing, heart-stealing scores. I think Herm would be well advised to use this particular pre-season to get these guys into a groove. It's tough, though, because you don't want to risk injury or wear the guys out before the first regular season snap.

FAX

Fish
07-23-2008, 09:58 PM
Quite so, Mr. KC Fish. Clearly, a team will normally use the pre-season, at least in part, for the purpose of establishing or fine-tuning the depth chart. In our case, however, the o-line is going to require significant PT in order to develop cohesion and gelerize because the line is so young and several of the guys are playing out of their traditional positions. The defense will also need time on the field in game situations. I can easily envision a variety of scenarios in which a mis-communication on defense due to youth and/or inexperience leads to long, mind-numbing, heart-stealing scores. I think Herm would be well advised to use this particular pre-season to get these guys into a groove. It's tough, though, because you don't want to risk injury or wear the guys out before the first regular season snap.

FAX

I definitely see what you're saying. But you have to remember that the Chiefs now have more young guys than ever. They have much more to evaluate than in previous years. I completely agree with your hypothesis, but IMO I'm afraid the management will still focus more on the analysis of all the young bucks. That will mean playing all of them.

With rebuilding, I just don't see gelerization and cohesion as being more important that overall evaluation....

I could be wrong....

Bill Lundberg
07-28-2008, 02:42 PM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2008/07/28/qa_with_herm_edwards__728/

Q&A with HERM EDWARDS - 7/28

Jul 28, 2008, 12:15:26 PM
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“We will give them some days off, too, and have one-a-days. That will start tomorrow when we have a special teams practice in the morning and have a regular practice in the afternoon. That’s kind of how it’s scheduled because of the 80-man (roster) situation. I’ve talked to head coaches around the league and that’s how a lot of guys are doing this. I think it’s smart and gets them ready to play in the pre-season.”

Q: You’re not going to have any back-to-back two-a-days?

EDWARDS: “We are today. Generally we’re going to have a special teams deal and then in the afternoon have another hard practice. I think that’s the best way to protect the players, in my opinion.”

Q: DE Turk McBride didn’t practice today.

EDWARDS: “Yeah, he had a stomach deal and Brian Waters is OK and will be out there this afternoon, and we kept Tony (Gonzalez) out. DJ (Johnson) cramped up. He had cramps in his hamstring but he’s ok. He’ll be fine. Surtain didn’t do a whole lot but he’ll go this afternoon. There are certain guys like that.”

Q: I know it’s early but as you go through the days who do you think is ahead: offense or defense?

EDWARDS: “It goes by periods some times. I said I thought early (today) the offense started off very well and got off the ball and ran the ball pretty well. The defense then got going. I thought in certain situations the offense did some good things and the defense did some good things. That’s what you want. You don’t want an unbalanced practice because then you don’t get any better when one side dominates the ball.”

Q: Can you talk about the evolution of the center position with Rudy Niswanger?

EDWARDS: “Very smart guy, as you know. Free agent and been here now going on three years. He’s been looking for this opportunity and now he’s going to get it. I think athletic wise he’s a big center; he’s a very tall guy. But he’s a pretty good knee bender and very, very smart. He’s very good on protections as far as who to help and plays pretty good in space.
“He’s a guy who played college football on a pretty good team. So he knows about big games and when you look at him he’s not the typical center because he’s tall. But he’s played (the position) all his life so I think he understands the leverage to use with his height. He’s going to get an opportunity to be our starter.”

Q: Can you talk about RB Larry Johnson just being healthy and seeing him working as hard as he is?

EDWARDS: “I think he has a lot to prove due to the fact that there is always a lot of pressure on you when you’re in the star status as a football player. Last year we started off pretty slow offensively and didn’t run the ball very well. Then we kind of got going and then he got hurt. That hurt us.
“I think he has the mindset of trying to come back and have a good season.”

Q: How tight is your battle for the kicking position?

EDWARDS: “It’s tight. That thing, you know, is an everyday deal. Then we get in the preseason and they’ll get evaluated there. Hopefully we can get close enough to where we can kick some field goals, too. That was a little bit of our Achilles Heel last year. We never got in field goal range it seemed and then when we did we didn’t make a whole lot of them. Hopefully, we’ll get in better position this year.”

Q: How’s the offensive line look? It’s fairly new.

EDWARDS: “They’ve been together in the spring. They’re athletic. They’re big. They’re the kind of guys that Chan (Gailey) likes. He likes big tackles and we have some big ones and they’re pretty athletic too. A lot of energy. I think the guys that came from last year are disappointed because that’s always been a staple for this franchise going back to when Marty Schottenheimer was here and Whitey Dovell was drafting. It was always built on the offensive line. These young guys are going to have a chance to play.”

Q: Cohesiveness is needed in the offensive line isn’t it?

EDWARDS: “Yeah, they need to practice together. They’re going to play some games together. The pre-season is going to be a little different for them than in the past. They will play a little bit more; they have to because we have to do a lot of things good in the pre-season so that it can give them some confidence.”

Q: What does a player like Tony Gonzalez mean to a franchise that’s rebuilding?

EDWARDS: “I think his ability to stay on one team, the numbers that he’s put up as a player, his Pro Bowl thing, gives him a chance to go to the Hall of Fame. But what Tony wants to do is win playoff games and win a Super Bowl. That’s the missing element and that’s what drives him along with him wanting to be the best player he can possibly be. That’s what he’s always done, what he’s always exhibited on the field and off the field. He does the right things and is the model of a pro football player, what you want a guy to do. He’s a first round pick and there is a lot of pressure on a first-round pick. But those guys from Cal can handle that and he’s handled it in a manner that’s respected around the league.”

Q: Some of the other receivers seem to have picked up his work ethic.

EDWARDS: “Especially Cottam. Everything he does mimics Tony. If that’s the example to follow, that’s the right one.”

Q: Has he ever expressed frustration about the team’s rebuilding process?

EDWARDS: “He’s a little bit concerned, (the veterans) all are. They always worry about when it’s going to come to an end and they’re running out of time. But I told him just because we’re going in this direction that doesn’t mean you can’t win. If you look at the players we brought in here and the attitude they have he’s bought in. He’ll speak for himself on that; you can ask him the question.”

Q: Is it like having a coach around because when he’s not working he’s always talking to the young guys?

EDWARDS: “Tony has always been a guy about doing his job and not being a leader per se preferring to do it on the field. I think this year he’s invested a little more time this year helping guys. That’s good. That’s good for us to have a guy like that.”

Q: Other than learning the new offense what do you want to see out of Brodie Croyle in this camp?

EDWARDS: “I want to see him in games, especially in pre-season games, move the team down the field and score. We need to score. It’s not all on him. We’ve got to protect him, they’ve got to catch it and we’ve got to run it. But he needs to get some confidence from getting the team in the endzone. That’s the most important thing.”

Q: How quickly is RB Larry Johnson coming along here in understanding the new offense?

EDWARDS: “He likes it; there are certain runs that he likes. We’ve got him involved in the passing game some and some things that he can do in the open field. He understands what we’re doing. He understands football and understands what Chan (Gailey) is about and how he’s run the ball in the past. He’s always had good running backs wherever he’s been in pro and college football. He’s always been able to run the ball and that kind of fits Larry’s mold.”

Q: Does he have to prove himself again after last year’s disappointing season with the injury?

EDWARDS: “I don’t know if he has to prove himself. He’s just hungry to get back and play football. If you miss all those games like that….one thing about players, they like to play. He loves the competition to play on Sundays.”

Q: CB Patrick Surtain said before the draft he talked to some people within the organization about Brandon Flowers Is that something you pay attention to, a veteran on your team?

EDWARDS: “That’s great but we draft him where he should be fit. He was a guy that was available at that point in time. Pat should be interested in him and he should be. He’s a good player. But believe me, I haven’t in the past listened to players because your cousin thinks he’s a good football player. We drafted him because our scouts did a good job of evaluating him. The guy has been around the pro game. He’s seen it and why he played so well in college.”

JuicesFlowing
07-28-2008, 03:11 PM
I would like to see us come out of Preseason without any injuries ...

Tribal Warfare
07-28-2008, 03:18 PM
perfect practice for a great outcome

macdawg
07-28-2008, 04:03 PM
I agree that winning some pre-season games is imperative for this teams attitude.

TEX
07-28-2008, 04:25 PM
You don't think it's important for this young team coming off of a 4 -12 season in which they lost their last 9 straight games to get a couple of wins under their belts? I think it is important this year just to get a little swagger back. Say they lose 4 straight in the preseason. Then this team hasn't tasted victory in thirteen straight games. Dating back to October 21, 2007.

I totally agree. When you're a bad team like the Chiefs coming off a horrible season, nothing builds conficence like winning. Even if it doesn't matter.

Calcountry
07-28-2008, 04:41 PM
I am sure, if this question was asked of our HC, he would reply, "WE PLAY, TO WIN THE GAME!"

Skip Towne
07-28-2008, 05:30 PM
One year Stram elected to pound the shit out of Chicago in the pre season. 65 to something. I forgot what he was trying to prove.

InChiefsHell
07-28-2008, 05:43 PM
as long as the starters kick some ass on both sides of the ball and win while they are on the field, I don't care about the ending score...but our starters need to show that they can friggin' play...and since most will be pretty young anyway, I'd say pre-season will be more important this year than any I can remember.

Pasta Giant Meatball
07-28-2008, 06:25 PM
as long as the starters kick some ass on both sides of the ball and win while they are on the field, I don't care about the ending score...but our starters need to show that they can friggin' play...and since most will be pretty young anyway, I'd say pre-season will be more important this year than any I can remember.

Yep, usually it was about giving the vet laden team token playing time to make sure they make it to the season healthy. This year i'm sure the few vets we have left won't play much, but the younguns will get the much needed game experience.

FAX
07-28-2008, 06:29 PM
One year Stram elected to pound the shit out of Chicago in the pre season. 65 to something. I forgot what he was trying to prove.

ROFL

Awesome. I didn't know that.

FAX

Hydrae
07-28-2008, 06:54 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_Chiefs

Kansas City hosted the NFL's Chicago Bears in the 1967 pre-season and won the game 66-24.

From what I am reading it was the first game between AFL and NFL teams. We had lost to the Packers the year before for SB I and Stram wanted to serve notice to the NFL that we should not be taken lightly. :)

http://www.kcchiefs.com/history/60s/


1967
Using a dazzling I-formation offense and a smothering defense, the Chiefs claimed a dominating 31-7 victory in the AFL title game at Buffalo (1/1) on the same day that future Chiefs star Derrick Vincent Thomas was born in Miami, Florida. That victory propelled Kansas City to the first AFL-NFL World Championship Game, later renamed Super Bowl I. The term “Super Bowl” was coined by Hunt during a committee meeting, inspired by a “super ball” owned by his three children. Although not officially adopted until the third such AFL-NFL World Championship Game, the name Super Bowl was seized upon by the media and quickly became a part of the worldwide sports lexicon. At the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, the Chiefs met Vince Lombardi’s powerful Green Bay Packers (1/15). The Chiefs played the Packers close for a half, trailing 14-10, but Green Bay took control in the final two quarters, winning the game by a score of 35-10.

The club’s special teams got a boost with the addition of K Jan Stenerud (Montana State), who originally enrolled in school on a skiing scholarship and KR Noland “Super Gnat” Smith (Tennessee State). Interest in the team skyrocketed, forcing an increase in seating capacity at Municipal Stadium from 40,000 to 47,000. In June, Jackson County voters approved a $43 million bond issue for construction of a sports complex.



The first contest between AFL and NFL teams in Kansas City resulted in a commanding 66-24 Chiefs victory vs. Chicago at Municipal Stadium (8/23). Injuries again hit the club hard during the regular season as the Chiefs clawed their way to a 9-5 record.

Reerun_KC
07-28-2008, 09:49 PM
I would like to see some confidence out of our coaching staff during preseason. I sure in the hell dont want to see the game plan that involved quiting on players that we saw on the road at Indy.

I want to see some agressiveness in the play calling, both offensively and defensively regardless of the personnel packages or scrubs on the field. I want to see that we are going to call the games according to what we want to do and not what the other team gives us BS. I want to take from the defense, move the ball down field, snd put it in the endzone, **** Herm and his Field Goal Extravaganza Bullshit he covets so closely...

I want to see Chan Gaileys offense, not Herman Edwards forcing Mike Solari to R2P2 bullshit we saw all last year. I dont what Herm crying like the little bitch that he is when Gailey is going for a TD regardless of the personnel on the field instead of kicking his must have FG's....

Players will make plays aslong as the coaching staff has the confidence to give the players a chance.

Biggest thing we can achieve this preseason is having the players believing in the coaches...