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ROYC75
07-26-2008, 01:02 PM
Democrats controlling the vote ?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080725/ap_on_el_ge/delegate_dumped;_ylt=AoMK0hTRcWcSB3uOEV0WtClh24cA

MADISON, Wis. - Wisconsin Democrats on Friday ousted a delegate to their national convention for saying she would vote for Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain in November.


Embarrassed by a defection in their ranks, the Wisconsin Democratic Party's administrative committee voted 23-0 to strip Debra Bartoshevich of her status as a delegate to the Denver convention next month.

Bartoshevich was elected by party activists as a pledged delegate for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton from the 1st Congressional District in southeastern Wisconsin. But after Clinton dropped out of the race, Bartoshevich told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel she would support McCain over Democratic Sen. Barack Obama.

The June comments from Bartoshevich, a 41-year-old nurse and mother of two from Waterford, were seized on by the McCain campaign as evidence of his appeal to former Clinton backers. Within hours, the Wisconsin Democratic Party passed a resolution at its state convention supporting a challenge of her credentials with the national committee.

The party's rules and bylaws committee said the state party could decide the matter, clearing the way for Friday's vote. Committee members agreed Bartoshevich had lost her privilege to be one of the state's 92 Democratic delegates because of her comments and affiliation with "Citizens for McCain," a branch of his campaign designed to recruit independents and Democrats.

During a teleconference before the vote, Bartoshevich asked the committee to allow her to attend the convention as a delegate for Clinton. She noted that she donated her time and money to Clinton and still believes the former first lady is the best candidate.

She said she made the comments backing McCain during an emotional time shortly after Clinton dropped out of the race and as a first-time delegate was unfamiliar with party rules. She said she had not decided who to ultimately support and was still open to backing Obama if he won her over. "I'd like to go to the convention and listen," she said.

She said her sister was a McCain supporter who signed her up for "Citizens for McCain."

"You reached right back and hugged them. I have a problem with that," committee member Dottie LeClaire responded.

The committee accepted a challenge that stated Bartoshevich violated rules requiring delegates to support the party's nominee and be faithful to the party. Bartoshevich will be replaced by Marilyn Nemeth of Racine, who finished second to Bartoshevich in the delegate election earlier this year.

Taco John
07-26-2008, 01:08 PM
I can relate. Republicans have done everything they can to isolate and expel Ron Paul delegates at every chance they get.

tiptap
07-26-2008, 01:09 PM
She can now actively support McCain without any concern about the duplicity of her having to go to the Democratic Convention. I certainly wouldn't want to fund her in any way in going to the convention if I was a member of the Wisconsin Democratic Party. Her timing made it an easy and necessary decision.

ROYC75
07-26-2008, 01:10 PM
She didn't know the rules, should have kept her mouth shut. They took advantage of her ignorance.

tiptap
07-26-2008, 01:11 PM
I can relate. Republicans have done everything they can to isolate and expel Ron Paul delegates at every chance they get.

She isn't supporting Clinton in her statements. Clinton said her support was with Obama. No she went outside the party altogether. Not quite the same as Ron Paul's case who ran as a Republican.

SNR
07-26-2008, 02:14 PM
I can relate. Republicans have done everything they can to isolate and expel Ron Paul delegates at every chance they get.
Both of these stories are dumb. What are they afraid of? Ron Paul will win the presidency?

HE WILL RUIN THE PARTY!

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Baby Lee
07-26-2008, 02:25 PM
"You reached right back and hugged them. I have a problem with that," committee member Dottie LeClaire responded.
This is the part with which I have a problem. More that ingroup outgroup shit at work. In the big picture, they should ALL be hugging.