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Mecca
07-28-2008, 08:37 PM
That's right reports are Jake Long is struggling with speed rushers in camp, boy I have no idea who could have seen that coming a mile away.....but shhh Parcells knows all just ask that dude at profootball weekly.

Count Alex's Losses
07-28-2008, 08:38 PM
Mecca vindicated.

Oh wait, Larry Johnson looks awesome. PSYCHE!

ChiefsCountry
07-28-2008, 08:39 PM
findthedr must be freaking out

OnTheWarpath58
07-28-2008, 08:39 PM
findthedr must be freaking out

ROFL

This thread pwns...

Count Alex's Losses
07-28-2008, 08:41 PM
Chiefsplanet never forgets.

smittysbar
07-28-2008, 08:41 PM
findthedr must be freaking out


He wiil off himself if Long isn't a stud. What a dipshit he was :)

Mecca
07-28-2008, 08:43 PM
Hey the god that is Parcells took a RT with a #1 pick but hey, he knows all.

I just love how the Dolphins could do nothing right and they would suck Parcells cock because they love him and want the Dolphins to be good a media favorite team with Parcells so there ya go...

Count Alex's Losses
07-28-2008, 08:43 PM
Well Dorsey sucks anyway so we should have traded up for Long, placed him at RT and left Albert at LT. :)

jjchieffan
07-28-2008, 08:49 PM
It is waaay to early to call Long a bust. He just started camp for crying out loud.

Mecca
07-28-2008, 08:51 PM
I just thought it was funny, I suspect he'll always have that issue his feet and athleticism will hold him back to an extent.

smittysbar
07-28-2008, 08:52 PM
It is waaay to early to call Long a bust. He just started camp for crying out loud.

No one said he is a bust

'Hamas' Jenkins
07-28-2008, 08:53 PM
I just thought it was funny, I suspect he'll always have that issue his feet and athleticism will hold him back to an extent.

I remember getting raked over the coals for questioning the mediocre draft record of Bitch Tits Parcells.

:crybaby:

SBK
07-28-2008, 08:56 PM
findthedr will probably have to stop masturbating if Albert were to turn out better than Long. That would be hilarious.

Mecca
07-28-2008, 08:56 PM
I remember getting raked over the coals for questioning the mediocre draft record of Bitch Tits Parcells.

:crybaby:

Yep and his draft history is shit.....Marcus Spears, Bobby Carpenter what great picks...

FAX
07-28-2008, 08:59 PM
He wiil off himself if Long isn't a stud. What a dipshit he was :)

Perhaps we should consider creating a petition thread encouraging him to come back.

FAX

Hydrae
07-28-2008, 08:59 PM
Who is the speed rusher for the Fins? Taylor is in DC now. :)

SBK
07-28-2008, 09:00 PM
Who is the speed rusher for the Fins? Taylor is in DC now. :)

Ricky Williams. :bong:

FAX
07-28-2008, 09:01 PM
Who is the speed rusher for the Fins? Taylor is in DC now. :)

Good point there, Mr. Hydrae. Who, exactly, is he practicing against? And what, by the way, is the source of this information?

FAX

Mecca
07-28-2008, 09:02 PM
Joey Porter is still there......

Fish
07-28-2008, 09:02 PM
Perhaps we should consider creating a petition thread encouraging him to come back.

FAX

Please please please please please please please please please please don't do that.

vailpass
07-28-2008, 09:04 PM
You mean he has had 2 whole days in camp and hasn't adjusted to the speed of the NFL yet?

What a bust.

FAX
07-28-2008, 09:07 PM
Please please please please please please please please please please don't do that.

Hmmm ... I seem to be a little low on casino cash ...

FAX

Deberg_1990
07-28-2008, 09:36 PM
Yep and his draft history is shit.....Marcus Spears, Bobby Carpenter what great picks...


I especially liked when he passed over Stephen Jackson. ROFL

SBK
07-28-2008, 09:38 PM
I especially liked when he passed over Stephen Jackson. ROFL

That was a good move. Julius Jones is the man. LMAO

chiefs1111
07-28-2008, 09:42 PM
Yep and his draft history is shit.....Marcus Spears, Bobby Carpenter what great picks...


Has Bobby Carpenter even played for them???? I have watched a few cowboy games the last couple years and I don't think Ive ever heard his named called..

Mecca
07-28-2008, 09:44 PM
Has Bobby Carpenter even played for them???? I have watched a few cowboy games the last couple years and I don't think Ive ever heard his named called..

He played special teams and that was it....how about Anthony Fasano?

Parcells isn't nearly the guy the media makes him out to be.

smittysbar
07-28-2008, 09:45 PM
Perhaps we should consider creating a petition thread encouraging him to come back.

FAX

Please god, NO!!!!!

chiefs1111
07-28-2008, 09:48 PM
He played special teams and that was it....how about Anthony Fasano?

Parcells isn't nearly the guy the media makes him out to be.

Yeah,I thought that pick never made any sense either....

Phobia
07-28-2008, 09:57 PM
It is waaay to early to call Long a bust. He just started camp for crying out loud.
Wow - voice of reason? How did that break through the darkness?

FAX
07-28-2008, 09:58 PM
Speaking of voices in the wilderness ... what, exactly, was the source of this information, Mr. Mecca?

FAX

KcMizzou
07-28-2008, 10:00 PM
Speaking of voices in the wilderness ... what, exactly, was the source of this information, Mr. Mecca?

FAXwww.meccawasright.com

:p

Phobia
07-28-2008, 10:01 PM
Please please please please please please please please please please don't do that.

You guys crack on findthedr here and maybe it's warranted but maybe not. All I know is he's a superstar at fatchatter.com. The mob mentality has its charms at times but other times it really hurts the site.

smittysbar
07-28-2008, 10:01 PM
No one said bust, for Christ sakes he said he was struggling. People just love to pile on anything and everything. Maybe read the thread first.......

FAX
07-28-2008, 10:04 PM
You guys crack on findthedr here and maybe it's warranted but maybe not. All I know is he's a superstar at fatchatter.com. The mob mentality has its charms at times but other times it really hurts the site.

Personally, I thought he posted some darn good football information. He researched obsessively and you've got to like that. I'm glad that he's found a place that appreciates his efforts and contribution.

FAX

smittysbar
07-28-2008, 10:06 PM
You guys crack on findthedr here and maybe it's warranted but maybe not. All I know is he's a superstar at fatchatter.com. The mob mentality has its charms at times but other times it really hurts the site.

He was a broken record over here, and yes I know he is on fatchatter. It was OT or nothing as far as he was concerned. Thought he was the only one right and anything else was WRONG. He would put up stats thinking it would support his case, but in fact hurt it. I like going over to fatchatter some, and he calmed down some over there too. I won't be clicking on any of his thread though.

SUPERSTAR :rolleyes:

EDIT: Yes if I would give him credit for anything, it would be the articles that he posted, except for the Blogs that he would use like they were articles from a reliable source

milkman
07-28-2008, 10:07 PM
You guys crack on findthedr here and maybe it's warranted but maybe not. All I know is he's a superstar at fatchatter.com. The mob mentality has its charms at times but other times it really hurts the site.

The doc is stubborn and unbending in his opinions, but can be debated with if you don't allow that aspect of his personality to get you bent.

The debates I've had with him have been highly entertaining.

Deberg_1990
07-28-2008, 10:10 PM
Dorsey got manhandled in one series against Waters... BUST!!

milkman
07-28-2008, 10:11 PM
There were a number of us that debated Jake Long's athleticism and and feet with findthedr.

I think that Parker really had the most issues with him.

Warpath got pretty pissed at him also.

I followed him over to fatchatter, and we debated Long for another 2 or 3 weeks.

Fish
07-28-2008, 10:11 PM
You guys crack on findthedr here and maybe it's warranted but maybe not. All I know is he's a superstar at fatchatter.com. The mob mentality has its charms at times but other times it really hurts the site.

He's just too damn stubborn to enjoy a thread with. I'd visit fatchatter.com more if not for that. Not a lot of people get under my skin, but he managed on a few occasions.

Deberg_1990
07-28-2008, 10:12 PM
.

I followed him over to fatchatter, and we debated Long for another 2 or 3 weeks.

Why wast so much time and energy?? Long was gone well before we picked????

milkman
07-28-2008, 10:13 PM
One other thing.

Did anybody notice that Trevor Laws was placed on the PUP this weekend?

smittysbar
07-28-2008, 10:13 PM
He would always try to give me neg rep but forget to hit the neg button

milkman
07-28-2008, 10:13 PM
Why wast so much time and energy?? Long was gone well before we picked????


I enjoy a good debate.

smittysbar
07-28-2008, 10:14 PM
One other thing.

Did anybody notice that Trevor Laws was placed on the PUP this weekend?

ROFL

Tribal Warfare
07-28-2008, 10:14 PM
You guys crack on findthedr here and maybe it's warranted but maybe not. All I know is he's a superstar at fatchatter.com. The mob mentality has its charms at times but other times it really hurts the site.




Superstar, Puhlease!!!!!!!!! findthedr, is so caught up in his view as the correct one, and should be the gospel that everyone should build their opinions on. You can't discuss football at the guy, because he's like a kindergartner who tries to shout louder than everyone else with his "stats" without any true analysis of his own .

Frazod
07-28-2008, 10:14 PM
He's a dick. Glad he's elsewhere.

KcMizzou
07-28-2008, 10:15 PM
He's a dick. Glad he's elsewhere.Wrong thread. :D

Phobia
07-28-2008, 10:16 PM
No one said bust, for Christ sakes he said he was struggling. People just love to pile on anything and everything. Maybe read the thread first.......
Nobody said "bust" but the vindication reaction is such that it's implied.

ohiobronco2
07-28-2008, 10:16 PM
That's right reports are Jake Long is struggling with speed rushers in camp, boy I have no idea who could have seen that coming a mile away.....but shhh Parcells knows all just ask that dude at profootball weekly.

He's no Ryan Clady. That's for sure. :D

Phobia
07-28-2008, 10:18 PM
Superstar, Puhlease!!!!!!!!! findthedr, is so caught up in his view as the correct one, and should be the gospel that everyone should build their opinions on. You can't discuss football at the guy, because he's like a kindergartner who tries to shout louder than everyone else with his "stats" without any true analysis of his own .

Most people benefit from a change of scenery if they're not accepted elsewhere. This is one of those cases. He felt welcomed and appreciated at fatchatter so he flourished. While he's certainly culpable, it's not entirely his fault. Some of it is the culture of this site. While the Planet has many positives, it's a shame that this is one very large negative.

I take some of the blame myself because I cultivated some of the culture here.

smittysbar
07-28-2008, 10:20 PM
Nobody said "bust" but the vindication reaction is such that it's implied.

It said he was struggling with speed rushers, which a lot of people thought before the draft. So it is interesting football info to know.

KcMizzou
07-28-2008, 10:21 PM
Phob's right. Findthedr was very cool on fatchatter. Didn't seem like the same guy.

I suppose that's because if you have a minority opinion here... you get 15 people telling you how wrong you are. Feels like a pile-on... So, yeah... maybe he got defensive.

If you're an established poster... you get a lot more slack.

smittysbar
07-28-2008, 10:22 PM
Most people benefit from a change of scenery if they're not accepted elsewhere. This is one of those cases. He felt welcomed and appreciated at fatchatter so he flourished. While he's certainly culpable, it's not entirely his fault. Some of it is the culture of this site. While the Planet has many positives, it's a shame that this is one very large negative.

I take some of the blame myself because I cultivated some of the culture here.


IMO, in his case, it was just his behavior. I mean he turned into quite the tool.

milkman
07-28-2008, 10:23 PM
It said he was struggling with speed rushers, which a lot of people thought before the draft. So it is interesting football info to know.

Phil's right though.

It isn't "Jake Long struggling against speed rushers".

It's "Guess who's struggling against speed rushers".

There's a "We told you so" attitude in that.

Stinger
07-28-2008, 10:23 PM
I take some of the blame myself because I cultivated some of the culture here.

Being overweight and having a goatee is a culture?

:D

smittysbar
07-28-2008, 10:25 PM
Phil's right though.

It isn't "Jake Long struggling against speed rushers".

It's "Guess who's struggling against speed rushers".

There's a "We told you so" attitude in that.

The way I look at it is yeah, many did say that. Not just on here but on national media also. It will make or break him @ the LT position. It will be watched very closely throughout the year.

KcMizzou
07-28-2008, 10:26 PM
Phil's right though.

It isn't "Jake Long struggling against speed rushers".

It's "Guess who's struggling against speed rushers".

There's a "We told you so" attitude in that.That's just Mecca, for ya. :p

dorseybowe
07-28-2008, 10:26 PM
Guess who is struggling with speed

Carl Peterson

KcMizzou
07-28-2008, 10:27 PM
Carl PetersonHe was fast enough signing 12 draft picks. (11, I guess... but I'll take it.)

I know we're supposed to hate him... but that was a job well done.

smittysbar
07-28-2008, 10:29 PM
He was fast enough signing 12 draft picks. (11, I guess... but I'll take it.)

I know we're supposed to hate him... but that was a job well done.

agreed

dorseybowe
07-28-2008, 10:37 PM
He was fast enough signing 12 draft picks. (11, I guess... but I'll take it.)

I know we're supposed to hate him... but that was a job well done.

Couldn't resist.

Phobia
07-28-2008, 10:49 PM
Being overweight and having a goatee is a culture?

:D
During the creation of said culture I was in playing shape. Heh.

FAX
07-28-2008, 10:50 PM
... sure wish I knew the source of this information about Jake Long ...

FAX

markk
07-28-2008, 10:55 PM
even if he isn't another Roaf or Ogden (who is), it's not like this would be a real 'miss' by miami... he was probably going top three if not #1 no matter who was up there.

i suspect he'll be fine. i'm sure it is a big adjustment to the NFL where you see rushers every week who might have been the best end you saw all season in college.

smittysbar
07-28-2008, 11:10 PM
... sure wish I knew the source of this information about Jake Long ...

FAX

A quick google got this.

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/jul/28/30gtlong-day-for-dolphins-offensive-line/




DAVIE Every little step counts when you're an offensive lineman, and bad ones often can be costly. At least, it was for Jake Long on Sunday.

Long took too wide an angle trying to contain speedy outside linebacker Charlie Anderson during an 11-on-11 scrimmage-like situation. That mistake allowed Anderson to use his arm to get Long off balance, creating an alley for him to get past the No. 1 pick, pressuring quarterback John Beck.

Immediately following the play coach Tony Sparano made a beeline to his starting left tackle the same one whose footwork he was glowing about earlier in the day and gave him an animated earful.

While the words weren't audible from the stands, it's not difficult to imagine what the topic of discussion was. And it's likely that the Dolphins entire offensive line heard a similar "you've got to do better" lecture following Sunday's practice session, which featured about half-a-dozen would-be sacks like Long's.

"Going up against him, a speed guy every day, makes me a little better," Long said of Anderson.




WHOS UP

The defense excelled, but individually, OLB Charlie Anderson continues to impress coaches and teammates alike with his speed-rushing skills. He repeatedly torched No. 1 pick Jake Long for a couple of non-contact sacks, including one in which the 310-pound Long hit the ground. He deserved the No. 1 pick, so Im glad Im going against him every day, helping him get better and getting better myself, Anderson said. I think his momentum might have been going that way, I just helped him out.

WHOS DOWN

Long would be the first to admit he had a tough day in pass defense as both Anderson and OLB Quentin Moses were able to sneak past him for non-contact sacks of Beck and Henne.

The defense came real hard at us today and that makes for good competition and hard work to come out tomorrow and be better, Long said.

Direckshun
07-29-2008, 08:48 AM
I enjoyed findthedr, but I hated how he linked everything at you as if you didn't believe him. I told him on more than one occasion to chill out.

I will say that his skin was too thin. I hate thin skin. Probably why I stick around here with all these assholes.

ROYC75
07-29-2008, 09:03 AM
Ricky Williams. :bong:
ROFL Damn you, Out came the soda on the keyboard and screen.....