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Amnorix
07-29-2008, 03:14 PM
I love the smell of a little influence peddling in the morning. Oh wait, he was only indicted for lying about getting payments, not for actually doing it. Yes, makes perfect sense. Wonder if he reported it on his income taxes.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/29/stevens.indictment/index.html

Direckshun
07-29-2008, 03:25 PM
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beer bacon
07-29-2008, 03:33 PM
A republican taking bribes from big oil? Nobody saw that coming.

Nightwish
07-29-2008, 04:06 PM
He's running for reelection against the Democratic mayor of Anchorage. This could put Alaska's "Red State" status in jeopardy.

Programmer
07-29-2008, 05:23 PM
We should all be exceptionally happy the democrats never get indicted for wrongdoing!

I know I am.

Nightwish
07-29-2008, 05:29 PM
We should all be exceptionally happy the democrats never get indicted for wrongdoing!

I know I am.
Please, you and jake would be the first in line to point out when a Dem gets indicted. Don't try to deny it.

Direckshun
07-29-2008, 05:30 PM
We should all be exceptionally happy the democrats never get indicted for wrongdoing!

I know I am.
I don't know what the point of this post is. Is it:

(a) We should never care when somebody gets indicted?

or

(b) Democrats should start threads when Democrats get indicted!

Nightwish
07-29-2008, 05:42 PM
I don't know what the point of this post is. Is it:

(a) We should never care when somebody gets indicted?

or

(b) Democrats should start threads when Democrats get indicted!
I believe the point of his post was we should only care when Democrats get indicted.

whatsmynameagain
07-29-2008, 06:04 PM
I bet more would be indicted but for what cause? bush will pardon them anyways so its not worth the time or money.
I would definitely like to see numbers on what party has had more indictments.
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HolmeZz
07-29-2008, 06:11 PM
10 posts in and no "series of tubes" jokes?

SNR
07-29-2008, 06:33 PM
10 posts in and no "series of tubes" jokes?WOAH! I completely forgot that was him. This guy is still in office?!

****, this country is in rough shape

banyon
07-29-2008, 06:34 PM
10 posts in and no "series of tubes" jokes?

Here you go. :D

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SNR
07-29-2008, 06:36 PM
Here you go. :D

Beat me to it. I researched it as soon as I posted last

SNR
07-29-2008, 06:42 PM
The original shows just how friggin nutty this guy is, IMO

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Ultra Peanut
07-29-2008, 06:53 PM
"NO!"

BigOlChiefsfan
07-29-2008, 07:37 PM
The Bridge to the Hoosegow.

"Kill the chicken, make the monkey watch"

Programmer
07-29-2008, 07:58 PM
Please, you and jake would be the first in line to point out when a Dem gets indicted. Don't try to deny it.

There is a possibility that could happen, but I don't have the appetite that the democrats do for exposing the failures of people in the opposite party.

Amnorix
07-29-2008, 08:22 PM
There is a possibility that could happen, but I don't have the appetite that the democrats do for exposing the failures of people in the opposite party.


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Programmer
07-29-2008, 08:24 PM
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It's quite nice that you feel the need to make an ass of yourself.

Show me once on this board where I've started a thread about the downfall of any democrat. Just one.

penchief
07-29-2008, 08:25 PM
There is a possibility that could happen, but I don't have the appetite that the democrats do for exposing the failures of people in the opposite party.

Oh really? Republicans could have fooled me. Their entire schtick for the last thirty years seems to have revolved around ignoring the issues in favor of impugning the integrity of the fellow from the other party.

What planet did you say you came from?

Programmer
07-29-2008, 08:29 PM
Oh really? Republicans could have fooled me. Their entire schtick for the last thirty years seems to have revolved around ignoring the issues in favor of impugning the integrity of the fellow from the other party.

What planet did you say you came from?

Again, I ask you to show me one time I've started a thread that had anything to do with the ethical or moral failure of a democrat.

I have done just like the democrats and piled on when they have been posted, but the comment was that I would be the first in line to post something about a democrat in the same situation.

penchief
07-29-2008, 08:43 PM
Again, I ask you to show me one time I've started a thread that had anything to do with the ethical or moral failure of a democrat.

Then why did you make a broad accusation against democrats in general if you were only referring to yourself? I have never started a thread personally attacking someone of the opposite party either. I generally try to avoid using someone's personal shortcomings against them in a debate over policymaking or substantive issues.

On the other hand, if it involves selling out the people's government it doesn't matter which party the ingrate is from. That goes for anybody who takes a bribe or a favor in return for a vote or for favorable treatment. Behavior like that is worthy of being taken to the woodshed.

Irregardless of what your intent was it is clear that the republican party's campaign bread and butter has been personal character attacks. The same cannot be said about the democratic party. The current campaign is a perfect example of that. Obama, like Gore and Kerry before him, has taken the high road in the face of the republican smear machine.

The sad part about it is that gutter politics has somehow managed to steal the show (and our country along with it).

Amnorix
07-29-2008, 09:02 PM
Show me once on this board where I've started a thread about the downfall of any democrat. Just one.

I can't pretend to know all the various iterations of yourself that have lived on this board from time to time, nor would I bother to search them all even if I did. I certainly waste time here, but not THAT much time. :D

Programmer
07-29-2008, 09:03 PM
Then why did you make a broad accusation against democrats in general if you were only referring to yourself? I have never started a thread personally attacking someone of the opposite party either. I generally try to avoid using someone's personal shortcomings against them in a debate over policymaking or substantive issues.

On the other hand, if it involves selling out the people's government it doesn't matter which party the ingrate is from. That goes for anybody who takes a bribe or a favor in return for a vote or for favorable treatment. Behavior like that is worthy of being taken to the woodshed.

Irregardless of what your intent was it is clear that the republican party's campaign bread and butter has been personal character attacks. The same cannot be said about the democratic party. The current campaign is a perfect example of that. Obama, like Gore and Kerry before him, has taken the high road in the face of the republican smear machine.

The sad part about it is that gutter politics has somehow managed to steal the show (and our country along with it).

Your largest error in judgment to date. I do not represent the entire republican party, nor do I represent any other single republican. I replied to the comment posted by Nightwish.


Please, you and jake would be the first in line to point out when a Dem gets indicted. Don't try to deny it.
You should read first, comment later.

Direckshun
07-29-2008, 09:06 PM
Programmer,

You don't make a lick of sense.

Nightwish
07-29-2008, 09:23 PM
Programmer,

You don't make a lick of sense.
Has he ever?

Programmer
07-29-2008, 09:57 PM
Programmer,

You don't make a lick of sense.

If you read the post by nightwish you would see that I only responded to his comment. Your inability to follow the action just proves that you are incapable of staying focused on what is said.

I expect no more from you and no less. You are just unable to comprehend anything you see past "programmer".

Programmer
07-29-2008, 09:59 PM
Has he ever?

It's very obvious that you haven't even followed the conversation you started. You are quite the loser tonight.

I suggest you go back and reread the thread.

Direckshun
07-29-2008, 09:59 PM
If you read the post by nightwish you would see that I only responded to his comment. Your inability to follow the action just proves that you are incapable of staying focused on what is said.

I expect no more from you and no less. You are just unable to comprehend anything you see past "programmer".
I'm okay with being insulted. That's not really an issue for me as I have virtually no self esteem.

But if you could just make a lick of sense occasionally it might make things easier for everybody.

Programmer
07-29-2008, 10:02 PM
I'm okay with being insulted. That's not really an issue for me as I have virtually no self esteem.

But if you could just make a lick of sense occasionally it might make things easier for everybody.

My guess is that you have problems comprehending the English language.

You make less sense that what you accuse me of. Just try to follow the basic premise of the conversation. If you can't do that just stfd and stfu!

Nightwish
07-29-2008, 11:01 PM
It's very obvious that you haven't even followed the conversation you started. You are quite the loser tonight.

I suggest you go back and reread the thread.
Oh, I've followed it, and I stand by my characterization of you. You don't have to be the thread-starter necessarily for my comment to be true. You admitted that you're more than willing to pile on if somebody else starts the thread. Now, if you want to take an overly literal view of my comment, and thereby declare some hollow victory, feel free to do so, but my point stands that you are every bit as willing as anyone else to do exactly the same sort of finger-pointing that you are trying to condemn us for. That makes you a hypocrite. Not that that's any real secret.

Programmer
07-30-2008, 05:52 AM
Oh, I've followed it, and I stand by my characterization of you. You don't have to be the thread-starter necessarily for my comment to be true. You admitted that you're more than willing to pile on if somebody else starts the thread. Now, if you want to take an overly literal view of my comment, and thereby declare some hollow victory, feel free to do so, but my point stands that you are every bit as willing as anyone else to do exactly the same sort of finger-pointing that you are trying to condemn us for. That makes you a hypocrite. Not that that's any real secret.


I have admitted to joining in on conversations about democrats, but you said that I'd be one of the first to point out the failings of a democrat.

Your are fully trying to twist your comment and my reply into something they aren't, but that seems to be one of your best ploys. Twist the truth to fit your political agenda.

I might be a hypocrite in a lot of what I say, but in this case you are reaching due to your inability to handle the truth.

Your best bet is to say no to drugs.

Direckshun
07-30-2008, 06:34 AM
My guess is that you have problems comprehending the English language.

You make less sense that what you accuse me of. Just try to follow the basic premise of the conversation. If you can't do that just stfd and stfu!
I'll do what I can.

Thanks.

penchief
07-30-2008, 07:36 AM
Your largest error in judgment to date. I do not represent the entire republican party, nor do I represent any other single republican. I replied to the comment posted by Nightwish.

No error in judgment on my part. I was merely pointing out that you can't compare apples to oranges. You were comparing your personal conduct as you see it to your perception of democratic conduct in general.

The irony is that you projected a well established pattern of behavior exhibited by the republican party onto the democratic party.

tiptap
07-30-2008, 07:41 AM
The reason to address this in this forum is not simply to jump on the Republican that was indicted, that is the side show, it is that the Senate seat in Alaska is likely to swing Democratic. And in addition, Obama may ride the coattails of the Mayor of Anchorage and get the 3 electoral votes of Alaska. The humor may have been in all the actions of the Senator but the thrust of the thread was the political fallout.

bsp4444
07-30-2008, 08:05 AM
And back to the main topic...it's politicians like this (Rep.s AND Dem.s) who should make us all want term limits.

patteeu
07-30-2008, 08:59 AM
There's no love lost over Ted Stevens from me. He's one of the worst of the big spending influences on the Republican party over the past several years. I wish he'd have gone down one way or the other a decade ago. It's fitting that he ends up getting caught up in a corruption-related issue.

Ultra Peanut
07-30-2008, 09:07 AM
There's no love lost over Ted Stevens from me. He's one of the worst of the big spending influences on the Republican party over the past several years. I wish he'd have gone down one way or the other a decade ago. It's fitting that he ends up getting caught up in a corruption-related issue.I might have preferred "Caught sending explicit messages to a supposed minor over the internet," but this works.

naughteena: mmmm what would you do to me?
bak3dalaska: I'll deliver something so big through your series of tubes that even a truck wouldnt be able to carry it
naughteena: that sounds sexy lol
naughteena: wanna come by sometime when my parents arent here?
bak3dalaska: NO!
bak3dalaska: sorry my dear i mean yes
naughteena: huh
bak3dalaska: i just sort of react that way when someone asks a question

SNR
07-30-2008, 09:48 AM
I might have preferred "Caught sending explicit messages to a supposed minor over the internet," but this works.

naughteena: mmmm what would you do to me?
bak3dalaska: I'll deliver something so big through your series of tubes that even a truck wouldnt be able to carry it
naughteena: that sounds sexy lol
naughteena: wanna come by sometime when my parents arent here?
bak3dalaska: NO!
bak3dalaska: sorry my dear i mean yes
naughteena: huh
bak3dalaska: i just sort of react that way when someone asks a question"Send me an internet"

markk
07-30-2008, 10:00 AM
There's no love lost over Ted Stevens from me. He's one of the worst of the big spending influences on the Republican party over the past several years. I wish he'd have gone down one way or the other a decade ago. It's fitting that he ends up getting caught up in a corruption-related issue.

I agree. If it weren't obvious from the series of tubes deal, he's a schmuck.

He's one of the people that has led the republican party down the money-drunk path they have been on since the late 90s.

The party ought to move to replace him on the ballot if that were possible. Certainly almost anyone they could find with an (R) by their name would be better.

Programmer
07-30-2008, 10:09 AM
No error in judgment on my part. I was merely pointing out that you can't compare apples to oranges. You were comparing your personal conduct as you see it to your perception of democratic conduct in general.

The irony is that you projected a well established pattern of behavior exhibited by the republican party onto the democratic party.

Your judgment is totally in question here. You are not following the current thread but the history of one poster and imposing his actions on the whole party. Not very wise on your part.

I projected a well established pattern? I didn't write first post in this thread, nor have I written the first post in any thread calling out the democrats for the same activity.

Get your head out of your ass and realize that both sides have a sincere dislike for the other.

I'm projecting that you can't tell the difference between apples and oranges based on your current line of comments.

gblowfish
07-30-2008, 11:34 AM
He went down the tubes....
So to speak.

No wonder he refused to make the oil execs swear in when testifying before Congress.
Bring on the next sleaze, please.

Programmer
07-30-2008, 01:58 PM
He went down the tubes....
So to speak.

No wonder he refused to make the oil execs swear in when testifying before Congress.
Bring on the next sleaze, please.

Even if he/she is a democrat?