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***SPRAYER
07-31-2008, 12:46 PM
I shit you not:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121745962594698731.html?mod=todays_columnists

PBJ

DaKCMan AP
07-31-2008, 12:51 PM
Yes.

HolmeZz
07-31-2008, 12:55 PM
John McCain doesn't speak for the McCain campaign.

***SPRAYER
07-31-2008, 12:59 PM
Is John McCain Stupid?
July 31, 2008; Page A13
Is John McCain losing it?

On Sunday, he said on national television that to solve Social Security "everything's on the table," which of course means raising payroll taxes. On July 7 in Denver he said: "Senator Obama will raise your taxes. I won't."

This isn't a flip-flop. It's a sex-change operation.


Recent remarks by John McCain has some Republicans stewing. Wonder Land columnist Dan Henninger of the WSJ Editorial page talks with Kelsey Hubbard about McCain's need for a new strategy to beat Barack Obama. (July 31)
He got back to the subject Tuesday in Reno, Nev. Reporters asked about the Sunday tax comments. Mr. McCain replied, "The worst thing you could do is raise people's payroll taxes, my God!" Then he was asked about working with Democrats to fix Social Security, and he repeated, "everything has to be on the table." But how can . . .? Oh never mind.

Yesterday he was in Aurora, Colo., to wit: "On Social Security, he [Sen. Obama] wants to raise Social Security taxes. I am opposed to raising taxes on Social Security. I want to fix the system without raising taxes."

What I'm asking is, does John McCain have the mental focus, the intellectual discipline, to avoid being out-slicked by Barack Obama, if he isn't abandoned by his own voters?

It's not just taxes. Recently the subject came up of Al Gore's assertion that the U.S. could get its energy solely from renewables in 10 years. Sen. McCain said: "If the vice president says it's doable, I believe it's doable." What!!?? In a later interview, Mr. McCain said he hadn't read "all the specifics" of the Gore plan and now, "I don't think it's doable without nuclear power." It just sounds loopy.


AP
Then this week in San Francisco, in an interview with the Chronicle, Sen. McCain called Nancy Pelosi an "inspiration to millions of Americans." Notwithstanding his promises to "work with the other side," this is a politically obtuse thing to say in the middle of a campaign. Would Bill Clinton, running for president in 1996 after losing control of the House, have called Newt Gingrich an "inspiration"? House Minority Leader John Boehner, facing a 10-to-20 seat loss in November, must be gagging.

The one thing -- arguably the only thing -- the McCain candidacy has going for it is a sense among voters that they don't know what Barack Obama stands for or believes. Why then would Mr. McCain give voters reason to wonder the same thing about himself? You're supposed to sow doubt about the other guy, not do it to yourself.

Yes, Sen. McCain must somehow appeal to independents and blue-collar Hillary Democrats. A degree of pandering to the center is inevitable. But this stuff isn't pandering; it's simply stupid. Al Gore's own climate allies separated themselves from his preposterous free-of-oil-in-10-years whopper. Sen. McCain saying off-handedly that it's "doable" is, in a word, thoughtless.

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http://online.wsj.com/xml/rss/3_7128.xmlSpeaker Pelosi heads a House with a 9% approval. To let her off the hook before the election reflects similar loss of thought.

The forces arrayed against Sen. McCain's candidacy are formidable: an unpopular president, the near impossibility of extending Republican White House rule for three terms, the GOP trailing in races at every level, a listless fundraising base, doubtful sentiments about the war, a flailing economy.

The generic Democratic presidential candidate should win handily. Barack Obama, though vulnerable at the margin, is a very strong candidate. This will be a turnout election. To win, Mr. McCain needs every Republican vote he can hold.

Why make it harder than it has to be? Given such statements on Social Security taxes, Al Gore and the "inspirational" Speaker Pelosi, is there a reason why Rush Limbaugh should not spend August teeing off on Mr. McCain?

Why as well shouldn't the Obama camp exploit all of this? If Sen. Obama's "inexperience" is Mr. McCain's ace in the hole, why not trump that by asking, "Does Sen. McCain know his own mind?"

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In this sports-crazed country, everyone has learned a lot about what it takes to win. They've heard and seen it proven repeatedly that to achieve greatness, to win the big one, an athlete has to be ready to "put in the work."

John McCain isn't doing that, yet. He's competing as if he expects the other side to lose it for him. Sen. McCain is a famously undisciplined politician. Someone in the McCain circle had better do some straight talking to the candidate. He's not some 19-year-old tennis player who's going to win the U.S. presidential Open on raw talent and the other guy's errors. He's not that good.

There is a reason the American people the past 100 years elevated only two sitting senators into the White House -- JFK and Warren Harding. It's because they believe most senators, adept at compulsive compromise, have no political compass and will sell them out. Now voters have to do what they prefer not to. Yes, Sen. McCain has honor and country. Another month of illogical, impolitic remarks and Sen. McCain will erase even that. Absent a coherent message for voters, he will be one-on-one with Barack Obama in the fall. He will lose.

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Chiefnj2
07-31-2008, 01:09 PM
McCain on taxes:

When Bush’s 2001 tax cuts went to the Senate floor, McCain was one of two Senate Republicans to vote “no.” He said at the time, “I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who need tax relief.” Two years later, another tax-cut bill came to the floor, and McCain voted against it again, citing the rising deficit.

***SPRAYER
07-31-2008, 02:02 PM
Yes.


The pathetic thing is that B.O. can't get a significant lead on this guy. Can you imagine if the R's had a decent candidate?

VAChief
07-31-2008, 02:04 PM
I don't think he is stupid, but he has definitely lost his burst!

HolmeZz
07-31-2008, 02:16 PM
The pathetic thing is that B.O. can't get a significant lead on this guy. Can you imagine if the R's had a decent candidate?

The pathetic(hilarious) thing is watching people line up behind a candidate they think is lousy, which is the overwhelming case for McCain supporters here.

That's why Obama doesn't have a significant lead. He can't get the people who think he sucks to support him. McCain can.

SNR
07-31-2008, 02:37 PM
The pathetic thing is that B.O. can't get a significant lead on this guy. Can you imagine if the R's had a decent candidate?I hear about what today's Republicans want, and all of those 8 republican candidates a long time ago had that, (besides the cryogenically frozen head of Ronald Reagan). And all we heard from Republicans? "Waaaaahhh... these candidates suck!"

WTF do you want? Seriously, is there a man alive today that would be suitable to your political needs? I don't think such a man exists.

Basically, quit your bitching.

***SPRAYER
07-31-2008, 03:13 PM
WTF do you want? Seriously, is there a man alive today that would be suitable to your political needs? I don't think such a man exists.

You know, you have a valid point there.



Basically, quit your bitching

Or else what?

SNR
07-31-2008, 03:16 PM
You know, you have a valid point there.



Basically, quit your bitching

Or else what?Or else nothing. But you do realize that your problem can't be solved?

Baby Lee
07-31-2008, 03:24 PM
WTF do you want? Seriously, is there a man alive today that would be suitable to your political needs? I don't think such a man exists.
There was a guy who fit my needs, fiscally conservative and socially liberal, name of Rudy Guiliani, but everyone made fun of him for referencing his leadership when NY was attacked and he ran a shitty campaign.
So now we sit wondering if there's a chance of fiscal restraint in McCain, or if we're gonna weather the social and fiscal engineering of Obama while regrouping with a fresh group of people who recognize the overhwelming popularity of staying out of peoples wallets AND personal lives.

***SPRAYER
07-31-2008, 03:31 PM
Or else nothing. But you do realize that your problem can't be solved?

Not on a federal level, no. I've realized that for quite some time.

***SPRAYER
07-31-2008, 03:36 PM
There was a guy who fit my needs, fiscally conservative and socially liberal, name of Rudy Guiliani, but everyone made fun of him for referencing his leadership when NY was attacked and he ran a shitty campaign.
So now we sit wondering if there's a chance of fiscal restraint in McCain, or if we're gonna weather the social and fiscal engineering of Obama while regrouping with a fresh group of people who recognize the overhwelming popularity of staying out of peoples wallets AND personal lives.


I liked Fred Thompson. I could identify with the guy, I liked his attitude, and I liked the things he was for.

How anybody can sit here and say that we all should be satisfied with these two--- I'm not gonna disrespect a guy who spent almost 6 years in the Hanoi Hilton, I'm just not going to do it---

You have two pro-amnesty candidates, yet so much of America is adversely affected by the illegal alien invasion, and these two turn a deaf ear to all of us.

I don't have any political representation. NONE. Not on a local level, a state level, or a federal level.

I will soon leave NJ and I'm confident that I will experience representation on a local and state level elsewhere.

But never on a federal level. Not now, not never.

BigMeatballDave
07-31-2008, 03:47 PM
Is John McCain stupid?I knew it. He really IS a liberal...:D

BigMeatballDave
07-31-2008, 03:48 PM
John McCain doesn't speak for the McCain campaign.I'm John McCain, and I approve this message...