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xen
08-01-2008, 08:34 AM
here's report #2. enjoy fellas. interviews with Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr and Dwayne Bowe at the bottom.

http://www.chiefscoalition.com/cc/Chiefs-News/163.html

Jared Allen was the Chiefs' big sack daddy last year. His trade to the Vikings was one of the biggest headline stories during the offseason. So the anticipation of Allen going up against his old team and rookie left tackle Branden Albert was juicy ... and then the Vikings blew the wind out of our sails.

No Allen, no Steve Hutchinson, no Matt Birk, and no Antoine Winfield, Pat Williams, Kevin Williams. In fact, no player over 30 made the trip to River Falls. So what happened??? Players still got busy, on both sides.


Inside the KC Chiefs 2008 Training Camp

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The stands are packed; red & gold, purple & gold, cheers, ooohhs & ahhhhs. Teams are paired up on the main field for this. Media are on the track, constantly moving for a good view, including me. Overall, the Vikings offense opened up down field several times; the Chiefs kept everything underneath with bootlegs, out routes and connections in the hook zones.

Highlights? They didn't leave us bone dry, especially Larry Johnson and Adrian Peterson.

* LJ ... OooooooWEEE!!! If any of you hit River Falls next summer, chances are you'll see the Vikings' rookie safety Tyrell Johnson *STILL*... I repeat, ***STILL*** picking himself up off the turf following one of the most vicious stiff arms I've ever seen. LJ broke off a run off the right tackle and slipped into the second level. He was angling towards the sideline to open it up. Then here comes Johnson, he reaches out with both hands to stop LJ, and LJ just uncoiled his left arm right into the dude's chin. His face hit the ground so darn fast I didn't know how to react.

* But Adrian Peterson can do his thang too. In fact, against the first team defense going in from the 20 yard line, Peterson caught a swing pass out of the back field. He came out to the right side. Bernard Pollard had him in man. Pollard came up to meet him behind the line of scrimmage after the catch, Peterson made a quick side step ... Pollard, gone!! Next, Demorrio Williams gets a slight stiff arm from Peterson, just enough to counter Williams' momentum and render Williams useless. And then he juked Jarrad Page. Peterson did all this within the space of six yards.

* LJ broke off three outside runs while Barry Richardson was at right tackle and had nice gains each time. Richardson is clearly more advanced in his run blocking that pass blocking right now.

* Brandon Flowers ... swat - boom!!! The loud swat was Flowers' hand smacking the ball. The boom is the ball hitting the ground when Flowers broke up a slant thrown by Tavaris Jackson to Sidney Rice. Flowers was on Rice so darn tight, Flower's face is now on Rice's jersey instead of Rice's number. The pass break-up was so forceful, Vikings fans reacted in awe.

* Again, when the Vikings went in from the 20, (Vikings RB) Maurice Hicks ran wide to the right side against the second team defense. I kept my eye on Napoleon Harris. The guard reached him at the second level and he was just flat-footed. You can figure out what happened after that. He was swallowed up and Hicks scored. No pursuit from the inside at all.

* Pat Thomas was beaten by Brad Cottam and Jackie Battle in man coverage. Against the Vikings, he was beaten by Maurice Hicks on a swing pass. Completing the pass isn't the thing that concerns me. It's that Thomas never got over to lay a hand on him; Harris kept running untouched down the sideline. That's a play that should usually be a three to five yard gain, but turned out to be a lot more.

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It's here where I saw some things that bring encouragement, and some things that can induce vomiting. Let's start with the saddest matchup so far.

Rudy Niswanger (Center) vs. Fred Evans (DT) ... Evans is an UNDRAFTED free agent from freakin' Texas State-San Marcos ... HUH??? Here goes. Niswanger snaps the ball. Evans stays real low, explodes into Niswanger's chest, stands him up and then uses Niswanger's body as leverage to spring forward with his first step towards the quarterback. He pulls Niswanger back towards his backside and explodes forward. Poof ... he's gone!!! Now, I'm straight-up honest right here. Niswanger fell right on his face! It was pathetic. Remember in my first report, I told you that T.J. Jackson did the exact same thing, only Niswanger didn't fall flat that time.

Branden Albert (OT) vs. Brian Robison (DE) ... Albert left him on the outside looking in off the first snap. He anticipated the speed rush nicely and kept Robison out of the play. But on the second snap, Robison gave Albert that speed for the first two steps, and then busted it back inside for his counter. Albert beaten.

Barry Richardson (OT) vs. Ellis Wyms (DT) ... exact same results as Albert. The first snap resulted in Richardson manhandling Wyms' outside rush but Wyms busted the inside counter just as Robison did and won on the second snap.

Tre Stallings (G) vs. Leger Douzable (DT) ... Douzable is 6'4" 304lbs and uses the bull rush like Tank Tyler. He created some serious push when he bull rushed Stallings. He didn't reach the QB, but had there been a rush from the ends, the QB would not have been able to step into the pocket.

SPECIAL TEAMS

Connor Barth did most of the kicking and was pretty accurate. He made field goal tries that traveled 36, 40, 43 and 48 yards but missed on 45 yard attempt.

If God wasn't a football fan before tonight then he is now, because Dustin Colquitt kicked a couple that had to bang up against the Pearly Gates. Two punts traveled 65 and 60 yards respectively, with majestic arches. WOW!!!

Tyron Brackenridge, Maurice Leggett, Brandon Carr and Dimitri Patterson all looked effective as gunners on the punt cover team. Each broke through double team containment several times.





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Ever hear a woman shriek upon seeing a mouse? That's what Dwayne Bowe sounded like when the trainer stretched him out on the sideline. He was about six feet from me, prompting me to say 'Damn Bowe, you know what you sound like?' He looked up and said "Dude you need to get out here and run till your legs feel like they're ready to fall off."



'Wsup Bonecrusher?'

"Just chillin Baby."

'You look like you're feeling it.'

"You know it! I'm feeling it. I got to right?"

'You know it.'

- Bernard Pollard and me chatting it up as he's getting a blow and drying his face before heading back out.



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Dwayne Bowe looks like he's been going to the Chad Johnson school of gab. He loves the attention and can talk it up. He's the swagger swinger on this team. He's full of confidence, flavor and entertainment.

The offense didn't open it up against the Vikings, and Bowe briefly explains why But ESPN's John Clayton, former Chief Kendall Gammons and I were debating what we're seeing.

Clayton thinks the Chiefs are going to be pretty bad again this year. He complained that they kept everything underneath during this joint practice. Gammons told him, until they can trust the O-line, they will use the short pass. I don't think the Chiefs will be as bad as Clayton does but I did point out to Gammons that they must be able to stretch the field at some point because LJ will see eight, even nine in the box right from the start, so trying to throw passes into already crowded underneath zones will be extremely challenging. Gammons agrees, but he's like me in thinking the Chiefs won't be as bad as Clayton thinks. Gammons doesn't think Barry Richardson will beat out Damion McIntosh either. He needs more work on pass protection and I agree based on my limited exposure.

I say the Chiefs need to draft a middle linebacker early next year. Clayton says quarterback. I told him he's crazy because Brodie Croyle hasn't had a fighting chance to show he's good. Plus, I will always argue that it takes a QB three to five years to become solid, if not good. Clayton says some coaches don't have that much time. Well tough, these guys aren't robots or computers and I told him it isn't Croyle's fault that Herm Edwards gave the coordinator's job to someone without previous experience.

Pay close attention to Rudy Niswanger this preseason. I'm not impressed with his ability against bull rushers at all. I want to see if he gets better than what I've picked up on so far.





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We hear from two rookie cornerbacks, Brandon Flowers and Brandon Carr. They try to explain the transition and learning curve they're trying to master. And we chat with wide receiver Dwayne Bowe. We start with Carr.

Brandon Carr

Carr: It's way different from college. The receivers are bigger, faster and stronger and definitely smarter so you have to be that much quicker. You have to know that much more about your technique.

Formerdb: How many different coverage techniques were you taught in college?

Carr: We had maybe three.

Formerdb: And how many with the Chiefs?

Carr: (laughs) ...a lot. Any given down and distance, you gotta change your alignment.

Formerdb: OK, how about bump-n-run?

Carr: Outside technique. But in college we played inside the whole time. All my technique changed when I got here. My man technique (man to man) we did the "inch back" which means you give ground. Here, you just hold your ground and play them head up.

Formerdb: Is it your intention to start by opening day? Are you told there's a position open?

Carr: My intention is to help the team any possible way on the field. That would be nice to start, but if that's not what the team and management wants then I'm going to do my part.

Formerdb: What's your strength? Bump-n-run corner, off man, zone?

Carr: In college we played mostly zone. But when I came here, because of my size, I can handle a lot of receivers so my bump-n-run has gotten a lot better, so that's what I like.



Brandon Flowers

Brandon Flowers: I had about four or five techniques in college. My coach came from the Bears, so we ran a lot of the Bears type defense. So in college everything I learned came from the Bears but when I came here I had to throw it all out and learn a whole new system so just a lot to process and get better everyday.

Formerdb: Is there a difference in man coverage in college compared to what you have here?

Flowers: Definitely, in college we played soft man where we just mirrored the guy. Here, they want you to get your hands on him and be physical early. In our off coverage, we play four yards. In college, we played eight or nine yards off, so it's just lining up playing different techniques. In college we back pedaled lot, here we never back pedal.

Formerdb: What's your strength? In your highlights you excelled in Cover 2 zone.

Flowers: We ran different coverages every play in college. I know I play strong zone because I can see the quarterback and read, but I also like to play physical and come down hill. In college it's more zone, but here you don't want to play a lot of zone in the NFL. You want to get your hands on a man and don't let him run free. So with my man-to-man technique, I like playing man more.

Formerdb: Is this defense what you like to see or is there another step you guys have to take?

Flowers: We gotta turn it up another notch. I would never settle for this defense. We could be first in the NFL and I'd still want to turn it up another notch. We can always get better.



Dwayne Bowe

Formerdb: You comfortable with this receiving group?

Bowe: Very comfortable, very comfortable. The guys are young but they listen, they pay attention to detail and they don't look young. They're out there running plays and they're running fast.

Formerdb: Who's your downfield threat, who's going to stretch the field?

Bowe: We're not going to show everything in practice here. But during the season you will be catching me 40 to 50 yards down field.

Formerdb: How about Devard Darling and Will Franklin?

Bowe: Those guys are fast, they're way faster than me. I don't want to give you everything but we have three MEAN deep threats and teams are going to see. I hope they get ready for it.

Demonpenz
08-01-2008, 08:39 AM
I like dbowe on the field, but I like the rest of it if it is fun, but I can see the fans turning on him.

dirk digler
08-01-2008, 08:41 AM
Great report thanks.

I am really concerned now about the center and middle linebacker position and maybe the Chiefs can pick up a veteran or two when cuts are made.

DaFace
08-01-2008, 08:45 AM
First off, it's Gammon. Second...

Bernard Pollard and me chatting it up as he's getting a blow...


:eek: I never knew that was a perk at practice (but I'd guess that would help to keep up morale).

knowmo3
08-01-2008, 08:47 AM
Carl never should have gotten rid of Weigman :cuss:

PGM
08-01-2008, 08:57 AM
Carl never should have gotten rid of Weigman :cuss:

Sorry, I appreciate what Casey did as a Chief, but it was time for him to move on. Rudy needs time working on his craft at center just like the other young guys. PATIENCE.

tomahawk kid
08-01-2008, 09:26 AM
LeCharles Bentley anyone?

SNR
08-01-2008, 09:45 AM
Who the hell is Kendall Gammons? And what did he do with Kendall Gammon?

Mr. Laz
08-01-2008, 09:47 AM
Carl never should have gotten rid of Weigman :cuss:

dude ... did you watch the chiefs games? :spock:

wiegmann is not suited to an inside power running game ....... at ALL!!

and it looked like he had lost a step

now given that everyone on offense looks like they have lost a step with dumb,dumber and dumbest running the offense last year, but wiegmann still looked old.

Mr. Laz
08-01-2008, 09:48 AM
Bowe: We're not going to show everything in practice hereso sick of hearing this shiite

just an excuse for sucking so bad you can't even get anything done in preseason. :shake:

Chiefnj2
08-01-2008, 09:56 AM
dude ... did you watch the chiefs games? :spock:

wiegmann is not suited to an inside power running game ....... at ALL!!

and it looked like he had lost a step

now given that everyone on offense looks like they have lost a step with dumb,dumber and dumbest running the offense last year, but wiegmann still looked old.

Unfortunately it looks like most of the current players on OL aren't suited for a power running game either.

Skip Towne
08-01-2008, 10:00 AM
USC could beat the Chiefs/Mecca

Sfeihc
08-01-2008, 11:14 AM
All you whiny dickbags giving spelling lessons on Kendall's last name need to STFU. Spend your own cash and vacation time and get up to River Falls and send us your reports. Oh wait, on second thought maybe not. I've read your posts and the chances of either of you producing anything close are slim and none.

Bill Lundberg
08-01-2008, 11:21 AM
LeCharles Bentley anyone?


DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER

Micjones
08-01-2008, 11:28 AM
LeCharles Bentley anyone?

Please and thank you.
Niswanger played well in spot duty last year at Guard.

BigRedChief
08-01-2008, 11:28 AM
All you whiny dickbags giving spelling lessons on Kendall's last name need to STFU. Spend your own cash and vacation time and get up to River Falls and send us your reports. Oh wait, on second thought maybe not. I've read your posts and the chances of either of you producing anything close are slim and none.
Jeeezz no chit. What did the KC Star have in it about the practice/scrimmage? Nothing. Nada. They are a "Big City" newspaper, correct? It's embrassing.

You want to read Bob Gretz's PR BS?
He took a couple of hits that were more than normal for a practice, but laid out a few of his own, especially with a wicked stiff arm that rocked a Minnesota defensive back.

Or this description?
LJ ... OooooooWEEE!!! If any of you hit River Falls next summer, chances are you'll see the Vikings' rookie safety Tyrell Johnson *STILL*... I repeat, ***STILL*** picking himself up off the turf following one of the most vicious stiff arms I've ever seen. LJ broke off a run off the right tackle and slipped into the second level. He was angling towards the sideline to open it up. Then here comes Johnson, he reaches out with both hands to stop LJ, and LJ just uncoiled his left arm right into the dude's chin. His face hit the ground so darn fast I didn't know how to react.

It's frigging free. Theres no money being made by anyone. No one is selling anything. You don't even have to register for free.

It's the best reports we are going to get all training camp and they are free. Just relax and enjoy.

SNR
08-01-2008, 11:30 AM
All you whiny dickbags giving spelling lessons on Kendall's last name need to STFU. Spend your own cash and vacation time and get up to River Falls and send us your reports. Oh wait, on second thought maybe not. I've read your posts and the chances of either of you producing anything close are slim and none.It's not spelling that's the problem. It's that people constantly get the man's name wrong. If people knew that it was Gammon, would they think there was a silent "s" in it? I don't think so. Shut your goddamn trap.

Also, I'm sorry you don't find our posts to be quality reading material. Maybe you should take it up with the system administrator, the guy you just insulted. Asshat.

Sfeihc
08-01-2008, 11:34 AM
Just because he's the system admin doesn't preclude him from being a whiny dickbag.

Chiefnj2
08-01-2008, 11:39 AM
Please and thank you.
Niswanger played well in spot duty last year at Guard.

Bentley hasn't played in two years, right?

Pestilence
08-01-2008, 11:39 AM
Just because he's the system admin doesn't preclude him from being a whiny dickbag.

:spock:

SNR
08-01-2008, 11:42 AM
Just because he's the system admin doesn't preclude him from being a whiny dickbag.I made a joke. Daface politely corrected the guy on the name. Where are you getting "whiney dickbag" from? Besides, you're forgetting, IT'S THE MAN'S ****ING NAME. Are you saying you're not going to correct somebody if they add an unnecessary "s" to your name for fear of being a whiney dickbag?

Chiefs Pantalones
08-01-2008, 11:47 AM
I like dbowe on the field, but I like the rest of it if it is fun, but I can see the fans turning on him.

Why the F would fans turn on him? I've read other member's say the same thing, WTF does that mean? How could you turn on a legit #1 WR? I guarantee you most Bengals fans don't hate Chad Johnson, most Cowboy fans don't hate T.O. and most Pats fans don't hate Randy Moss. The ones that do are idiots. Let them be themselves, they are great players and they back up their talk. Who cares how they act, shit, they're playmakers.

Bwana
08-01-2008, 11:53 AM
Great report, THANKS!

eazyb81
08-01-2008, 11:57 AM
Cool report, thanks for posting.

tomahawk kid
08-01-2008, 11:59 AM
Bentley hasn't played in two years, right?

Correct.

I'm just thinking he could be worth a look see if Rudy is looking that bad.

BigRedChief
08-01-2008, 12:00 PM
Why the F would fans turn on him? I've read other member's say the same thing, WTF does that mean? How could you turn on a legit #1 WR? I guarantee you most Bengals fans don't hate Chad Johnson, most Cowboy fans don't hate T.O. and most Pats fans don't hate Randy Moss. The ones that do are idiots. Let them be themselves, they are great players and they back up their talk. Who cares how they act, shit, they're playmakers.
Chief fans have turned on players before.

Andre Rison
Mighty Mouse
Elvis
Trent and Priest(in some ways)
Neal Smith
Bam Morris
Vanover
Dale Carter
Morton
etc.

I'm sure there are more but I don't remember a loud mouth Chad Johnson type player that was "elite" at his position ever playing here in KC so this is new ground.

FAX
08-01-2008, 12:02 PM
Great job, Mr. Formerdb. Just great. It sounds as though we have some serious concerns, but I think we already had those. The MLB situation may be worse than expected, however. I had also hoped that our o-line would at least improve to the point we could establish a semblance of a running game and allow us to better evaluate Croyle. That's a bid dang.

Oh, well. There's always next year. For now, we need to turn on Bowe before it's too late.

FAX

DeezNutz
08-01-2008, 12:04 PM
BOOOM!!! Zing. Zowie. Whiiiiiiiish. Wheeeeeeee!!!! SPLAT. ooooooohhhhhhh and 16.

Chiefs Pantalones
08-01-2008, 12:11 PM
Chief fans have turned on players before.

Andre Rison
Mighty Mouse
Elvis
Trent and Priest(in some ways)
Neal Smith
Bam Morris
Vanover
Dale Carter
Morton
etc.

I'm sure there are more but I don't remember a loud mouth Chad Johnson type player that was "elite" at his position ever playing here in KC so this is new ground.

Only Chiefs fans would be dumb enough to turn on D-Bowe.

beach tribe
08-01-2008, 12:12 PM
Chief fans have turned on players before.

Andre Rison
Mighty Mouse
Elvis
Trent and Priest(in some ways)
Neal Smith
Bam Morris
Vanover
Dale Carter
Morton
etc.

I'm sure there are more but I don't remember a loud mouth Chad Johnson type player that was "elite" at his position ever playing here in KC so this is new ground.

Most of those players are garbage, and some of them jumped to the Donks.

Trent, and Priest? If D bowe gets as much grief as they ever got it won't be much.

DaFace
08-01-2008, 12:13 PM
All you whiny dickbags giving spelling lessons on Kendall's last name need to STFU. Spend your own cash and vacation time and get up to River Falls and send us your reports. Oh wait, on second thought maybe not. I've read your posts and the chances of either of you producing anything close are slim and none.

Wow. Someone woke up with her panties in a bunch this morning. ROFL

BigRedChief
08-01-2008, 12:19 PM
Most of those players are garbage, and some of them jumped to the Donks.

Trent, and Priest? If D bowe gets as much grief as they ever got it won't be much.
Yeah I know they had reasons for turning on them but what if Bowe drops some pass's or looks like he's doggin it and we are getting our ass's whipped at home and the crowd boo's him and he says something like I don't care about the fans I'm busting my ass.
could happen.

xen
08-01-2008, 12:21 PM
hey guys, the gammon thing was my bad. i just looked at formerdb's original and i think my spellchecker went crazy. i thought i hit skip, but i guess i hit replace. what can i say. i got up late and didn't much time to edit it and get it posted at cc and here. plus, i'm worthless before my morning coffee and a half pack of cancer sticks.

glad you all enjoyed it. more coming soon.

Bwana
08-01-2008, 12:25 PM
hey guys, the gammon thing was my bad. i just looked at formerdb's original and i think my spellchecker went crazy. i thought i hit skip, but i guess i hit replace. what can i say. i got up late and didn't much time to edit it and get it posted at cc and here. plus, i'm worthless before my morning coffee and a half pack of cancer sticks.


No big deal. Looking forward to more reports. :thumb:

beach tribe
08-01-2008, 12:28 PM
Yeah I know they had reasons for turning on them but what if Bowe drops some pass's or looks like he's doggin it and we are getting our ass's whipped at home and the crowd boo's him and he says something like I don't care about the fans I'm busting my ass.
could happen.

What IF?? What if Brian Waters takes his helmet off on the field, and pisses in it?

BigRedChief
08-01-2008, 12:34 PM
hey guys, the gammon thing was my bad. i just looked at formerdb's original and i think my spellchecker went crazy. i thought i hit skip, but i guess i hit replace. what can i say. i got up late and didn't much time to edit it and get it posted at cc and here. plus, i'm worthless before my morning coffee and a half pack of cancer sticks.

glad you all enjoyed it. more coming soon.
so formerdb was correct and it was an editor mistake by you?

Your pentinece shall be providing free jaggerbombs at the next tailgate.:clap:

BigRedChief
08-01-2008, 12:35 PM
What IF?? What if Brian Waters takes his helmet off on the field, and pisses in it?
I was just saying that Chief fans are not above turning on a star player. But I don't see it occuring with Bowe.

SNR
08-01-2008, 12:36 PM
hey guys, the gammon thing was my bad. i just looked at formerdb's original and i think my spellchecker went crazy. i thought i hit skip, but i guess i hit replace. what can i say. i got up late and didn't much time to edit it and get it posted at cc and here. plus, i'm worthless before my morning coffee and a half pack of cancer sticks.

glad you all enjoyed it. more coming soon.Yes, those were informative reports. I'm sorry Sfeihc is a giant chode.

Keep up the good work!

Demonpenz
08-01-2008, 12:43 PM
I like bowe, it is my generation, entertainment video games, flashy, type of shit, I can see the grumblings from a mile away though.

kcchiefsus
08-01-2008, 12:46 PM
I like dbowe on the field, but I like the rest of it if it is fun, but I can see the fans turning on him.

Then screw the fans.

blueballs
08-01-2008, 12:51 PM
Then screw the fans.

the angry drunk ones
aren't bad
not bad at all

Fruit Ninja
08-01-2008, 12:51 PM
Only Chiefs fans would be dumb enough to turn on D-Bowe.

You said it not me. lol

DaFace
08-01-2008, 01:14 PM
Yes, those were informative reports. I'm sorry Sfeihc is a giant chode.

Keep up the good work!

Agreed. The name error in now way detracts from an otherwise great report!

BigRedChief
08-01-2008, 01:16 PM
Agreed. The name error in now way detracts from an otherwise great report!
and we get free jaggerbombs!PBJ

xen
08-01-2008, 01:22 PM
you get a free kick in the ass, komrade.

Lzen
08-01-2008, 01:29 PM
Nice report. So, is formerdb someone we know?

DaFace
08-01-2008, 01:29 PM
Agreed. The name error in now way detracts from an otherwise great report!

See...I don't even know the difference between "now" and "no." I'd suck as a reporter.

and we get free jaggerbombs!PBJ

Indeed. Of course, I'd have to make quite the trip to actually partake. :sulk:

Nice report. So, is formerdb someone we know?

See http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=185703

Lzen
08-01-2008, 01:43 PM
So, he is from NJ, attended journalism school i Atlanta, and has worked as a reporter in Pittsburgh for 16 years. Am I missing something? What are his ties to the Chiefs?

BigRedChief
08-01-2008, 02:07 PM
So, he is from NJ, attended journalism school i Atlanta, and has worked as a reporter in Pittsburgh for 16 years. Am I missing something? What are his ties to the Chiefs?
He was born and raised in KC.

TRR
08-01-2008, 04:42 PM
Did Brandon Albert get hurt last night against the Vikings? I know someone said at camp today that he limped off the field and into the training tent, but nobody seemed to mention it.

Also, Albert didn't practice today either....

Sfeihc
08-01-2008, 04:56 PM
I believe that he hurt his ankle. He also hurt an ankle during OTA's. During 610AM's broadcast last night the announcers hoped that this wouldn't be a chronic thing with Albert.

B_Ambuehl
08-01-2008, 04:59 PM
hahaha...I saw this happening 2 years ago. Kawika Mitchell and Wiegmann never should've been let go.

Never let a guy go until you have someone to fill his spot.

OnTheWarpath58
08-01-2008, 05:15 PM
hahaha...I saw this happening 2 years ago. Kawika Mitchell and Wiegmann never should've been let go.

Never let a guy go until you have someone to fill his spot.

Saw what happening?

Weigmann was getting bowled over his last two years here, and Mitchell and Harris are basically the same player, with opposite weaknesses.

One plays the pass well, but not the run, the other plays the run well but not the pass.

Neither are anything more than average LB's, at best.




You gotta love this place - where else can you see people completely going off the deep end over 2nd and 3rd hand reports from the FIRST week of camp...

LMAO

LiL stumppy
08-01-2008, 05:34 PM
Most good WR's have the same swagger to them. Would you rather have a WR that wants the ball and bitches when he doesn't get it.Or one who has no emotion.

Ari Chi3fs
08-01-2008, 05:36 PM
I like bowe, it is my generation, entertainment video games, flashy, type of shit, I can see the grumblings from a mile away though.

You are really starting, to, get, into, those, comma's, I see.

Grammar! **** Yeah!

JuicesFlowing
08-01-2008, 06:06 PM
Who the hell is Kendall Gammons? And what did he do with Kendall Gammon?

I wonder that myself. Gammons must have taken over the job that Gammon previously had for a few days.

Mecca
08-01-2008, 06:08 PM
Chief fans have turned on players before.

Andre Rison
Mighty Mouse
Elvis
Trent and Priest(in some ways)
Neal Smith
Bam Morris
Vanover
Dale Carter
Morton
etc.

I'm sure there are more but I don't remember a loud mouth Chad Johnson type player that was "elite" at his position ever playing here in KC so this is new ground.

Carter was a great player here, multiple pro bowler yet people hated him, I never understood that at all.

Mecca
08-01-2008, 06:09 PM
USC could beat the Chiefs/Mecca

Uh no..but there are several USC guys that could probably start for the Chiefs without much question.

JuicesFlowing
08-01-2008, 06:10 PM
I still don't understand the LJ hatred ...

Mecca
08-01-2008, 06:12 PM
I still don't understand the LJ hatred ...

Because we're in the midwest, we live in an area where a good portion of our fanbase would rather cheer for hardworkin underdog white guys than players with talent that have some attitude and personality about them.

blueballs
08-01-2008, 06:15 PM
Did Brandon Albert get hurt last night against the Vikings? I know someone said at camp today that he limped off the field and into the training tent, but nobody seemed to mention it.

Also, Albert didn't practice today either....

I'll post this here too



Posted on Fri, Aug. 01, 2008 06:55

Sprained ankle may keep rookie Albert out of camp, Chiefs say

By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

RIVER FALLS, Wis. | Rookie offensive tackle Branden Albert could miss the remainder of training camp with what the Chiefs called a sprained foot.

Albert was injured during Thursday night’s joint practice against the Minnesota Vikings. The Chiefs initially called the injury a sprained ankle.

Coach Herm Edwards called Albert day to day, but acknowledged Albert was unlikely to play in Thursday’s preseason opener against the Bears in Chicago.

"I’d say he’s more out than in," Edwards said. "He’ll have to rest it and see where he’s at right now."

Other officials indicated the Chiefs probably wouldn’t get their starting left tackle back before the Chiefs break training camp on Aug. 15. The injury is similar to the one received in training camp two years ago by guard Brian Waters.

Waters missed three weeks of practice.

An absence of a similar length for Albert would be a huge setback for the Chiefs. Albert was a first-round pick and their only major addition as the Chiefs attempt to rebuild what last season was one of the worst offensive lines in the league.

Herb Taylor, a sixth-round draft pick last season who played on offense in only one game as a rookie, replaced Albert in practice Friday.

Offensive coordinator Chan Gailey was obviously frustrated about the lost practice time for a developing player.

"We need to have him in there because he’s a rookie," Gailey said. "As good as he is, he needs work and he needs to see a lot of different looks. It would have been great for him to have the whole night against a different person rushing. But it didn’t work out that way and we’ll have to pick it up as games go along."


To reach Adam Teicher, Chiefs reporter for The Star, call 816-234-4875 or send e-mail to ateicher@kcstar.com.

tomahawk kid
08-01-2008, 06:16 PM
Because we're in the midwest, we live in an area where a good portion of our fanbase would rather cheer for hardworkin underdog white guys than players with talent that have some attitude and personality about them.

Ding, Ding, Ding...what do we have for him Johnny.........

DaneMcCloud
08-01-2008, 06:17 PM
Carter was a great player here, multiple pro bowler yet people hated him, I never understood that at all.

Because KC area fans demand that their athletes be gentlemen.

An average player that's a "good guy" (ala Maslowski, Grigsby, etc.) is much more popular and well-liked than a superstar-type athlete that's a little loud.

What those people haven't figured out is that it's difficult (if not impossible) to field a talent-laden team comprised of a bunch of 1950's choirboys in 2008.

Reason number 2,029 that the NBA wouldn't have long-term success in Kansas City at this time.

Mecca
08-01-2008, 06:24 PM
Because KC area fans demand that their athletes be gentlemen.

An average player that's a "good guy" (ala Maslowski, Grigsby, etc.) is much more popular and well-liked than a superstar-type athlete that's a little loud.

What those people haven't figured out is that it's difficult (if not impossible) to field a talent-laden team comprised of a bunch of 1950's choirboys in 2008.

Reason number 2,029 that the NBA wouldn't have long-term success in Kansas City at this time.

Dale Carter was one of my favorite players when I was a kid...

the Talking Can
08-01-2008, 06:36 PM
I'll post this here too



Posted on Fri, Aug. 01, 2008 06:55

Sprained ankle may keep rookie Albert out of camp, Chiefs say

By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

RIVER FALLS, Wis. | Rookie offensive tackle Branden Albert could miss the remainder of training camp with what the Chiefs called a sprained foot.

Albert was injured during Thursday night’s joint practice against the Minnesota Vikings. The Chiefs initially called the injury a sprained ankle.

Coach Herm Edwards called Albert day to day, but acknowledged Albert was unlikely to play in Thursday’s preseason opener against the Bears in Chicago.

"I’d say he’s more out than in," Edwards said. "He’ll have to rest it and see where he’s at right now."

Other officials indicated the Chiefs probably wouldn’t get their starting left tackle back before the Chiefs break training camp on Aug. 15. The injury is similar to the one received in training camp two years ago by guard Brian Waters.

Waters missed three weeks of practice.

An absence of a similar length for Albert would be a huge setback for the Chiefs. Albert was a first-round pick and their only major addition as the Chiefs attempt to rebuild what last season was one of the worst offensive lines in the league.

Herb Taylor, a sixth-round draft pick last season who played on offense in only one game as a rookie, replaced Albert in practice Friday.

Offensive coordinator Chan Gailey was obviously frustrated about the lost practice time for a developing player.

"We need to have him in there because he’s a rookie," Gailey said. "As good as he is, he needs work and he needs to see a lot of different looks. It would have been great for him to have the whole night against a different person rushing. But it didn’t work out that way and we’ll have to pick it up as games go along."


To reach Adam Teicher, Chiefs reporter for The Star, call 816-234-4875 or send e-mail to ateicher@kcstar.com.

:cuss:



we just can't get any breaks....our offense is going to suck major ass again....

Chiefs Pantalones
08-01-2008, 07:04 PM
:cuss:



we just can't get any breaks....our offense is going to suck major ass again....

It was going to suck anyway, but now even moreso, and our young guy can't get any reps. :(

chop
08-01-2008, 07:47 PM
Because we're in the midwest, we live in an area where a good portion of our fanbase would rather cheer for hardworkin underdog white guys than players with talent that have some attitude and personality about them.


Wow, what an idiotic thing to say. How did race get into this? I know most of these midwest racists have been supportive of multiple black players. In just the last few years people have supported players like Priest Holmes, Willie Roaf, D. Johnson, B. Waters, J. Hasty, D. Thomas, N. Smith and T. Gonzalez to name a few. LJ just doesn't have the best rep. People like to root for good players with good character. When a guy gets accused or swearing at fans and hitting women people are not going to be very fond of them no matter how good they are. This has nothing to do with race. I think you judgemental west coast people can kiss my mid western behind.

Mecca
08-01-2008, 07:51 PM
You're taking that a little far but it does factor in.....

People thought Marc Boerigter was good for no reason, what about Boomer Grigsby? There are always several great white hopes with this fan base.

Our fan base basically hates anyone that has any sort of personality.

chop
08-01-2008, 08:01 PM
People thought Bo was good after he scored multiple td's one year. They quickly turned on him after he couldn't duplicate that season. As far as Boomer goes, I don't think people rooted for him because he was white. I think they rooted for him because of his personality that he displayed in his blog. BTW, McGraw is an underdog player and I don't see anyone having great expectations for him. People made fun of Scanlon all the time. I can gaurantee that if LJ had a nice guy image there wouldn't be any bad mouthing him. He doesn't so there is.

the Talking Can
08-01-2008, 08:03 PM
You're taking that a little far but it does factor in.....

People thought Marc Boerigter was good for no reason, what about Boomer Grigsby? There are always several great white hopes with this fan base.

Our fan base basically hates anyone that has any sort of personality.

you forgot the king honkey Sippio....

Mecca
08-01-2008, 08:04 PM
This board made Scanlon get bad mouthed it became a running joke...

Here's my opinion and I've said it before, most of this fan base is and was very forgiving of Jared Allen, if he had been a black player exactly the same caliber and behavior I don't think they'd have been nearly as forgiving of him...

Mecca
08-01-2008, 08:04 PM
you forgot the king honkey Sippio....

That's a funny one, a few more and it can almost be equal.

chop
08-01-2008, 08:15 PM
Richard Smith

DaneMcCloud
08-01-2008, 08:19 PM
I think you judgemental west coast people can kiss my mid western behind.

Mecca lives on the West Coast now? I thought he's lived in Kansas City his whole life, but I could be wrong.

And who's being judgmental? Is it judgmental to report facts?