PDA

View Full Version : Video Games Madden NFL 09


Pages : [1] 2

chiefs1111
08-02-2008, 02:11 AM
Who is going to get this when it comes out???? Last year's version was really disappointing so I will be sure to rent Madden 09 first before buying it.

Raiderhater58
08-02-2008, 02:13 AM
Ditto

chiefs1111
08-02-2008, 02:16 AM
From what I seen from E3 videos it does look promising,but then again I thought last years did to....

Mr. Arrowhead
08-02-2008, 08:20 AM
im getting it for sure, anybody know if they are gonna have online leagues

BigChiefFan
08-02-2008, 09:56 AM
They have a demo on the playstation store-it looks pretty cool this year.

YES, they will have online leagues this year.

Mr. Arrowhead
08-02-2008, 01:27 PM
cool, anybody down for a chiefplanet madden league then

J Diddy
08-02-2008, 01:36 PM
cool, anybody down for a chiefplanet madden league then

what platform?

Fried Meat Ball!
08-02-2008, 01:43 PM
I just pre-ordered the 20th Anniversary - comes with Head Coach and Madden 93!!! I had every intention of renting Madden before I bought, but I really didn't want to wait until September to buy Head Coach. It looks like they upgraded a lot since the previous version.

J Diddy
08-02-2008, 01:47 PM
I just pre-ordered the 20th Anniversary - comes with Head Coach and Madden 93!!! I had every intention of renting Madden before I bought, but I really didn't want to wait until September to buy Head Coach. It looks like they upgraded a lot since the previous version.


Madden 93?

Fruit Ninja
08-02-2008, 01:51 PM
Game looks awesome presnap, Grass is top notch. Other then that. its mediocre at best. Which i guess is a step up from previous years. Why in the **** didnt they let you play defense on the demo? All you have is 1 drive with the Giants. Animations are still freaking horrible as always. I MAY rent it this year to see how defense is on this game. Its a step up from last year, but from horrible to mediocre is a step up i guess. lol

Mr. Arrowhead
08-02-2008, 01:55 PM
what platform?
360

J Diddy
08-02-2008, 01:59 PM
360


I'd be game

JBucc
08-02-2008, 02:56 PM
I'll probably get the CE Edition Edition. Head Coach looks really good and I don't want to wait for September either. Madden looks pretty good too, I'm having fun in the demo even though it's only a drive. But I think Head Coach will take up most of my time.

Mecca
08-02-2008, 03:00 PM
I'd play in a league.....

Fried Meat Ball!
08-02-2008, 04:19 PM
Madden 93?

That's what the dude from GameStop said. He said they ported the old Sega version from 1993.

Jenson71
08-02-2008, 04:29 PM
I'm getting the CE. I want to really like Head Coach this time around.

J Diddy
08-02-2008, 04:53 PM
That's what the dude from GameStop said. He said they ported the old Sega version from 1993.


I guess that would be cool, loved that game when I played it. Just wondering how much fun it'd be to play after all the technology advancements of today. I remember the juke was like a 5 yard lateral move.

Nightfyre
08-02-2008, 05:10 PM
Who is going to get this when it comes out???? Last year's version was really disappointing so I will be sure to rent Madden 09 first before buying it.

I was way too disappointed with last years. What a miserable sack of shit that was. They NEED to address so many things its stupid. Tackling, gang tackling, WR-CB interaction, Blocking, etc. etc. etc.

QuikSsurfer
08-02-2008, 05:54 PM
Characters look pretty bad in the demo. Field looks great though..

J Diddy
08-02-2008, 10:31 PM
I was way too disappointed with last years. What a miserable sack of shit that was. They NEED to address so many things its stupid. Tackling, gang tackling, WR-CB interaction, Blocking, etc. etc. etc.

would have this been a bitch 10 years ago

beach tribe
08-03-2008, 07:48 AM
I'm in on the 360 league.

Buck
08-03-2008, 01:45 PM
can anyone explain head coach to me?

J Diddy
08-03-2008, 03:54 PM
can anyone explain head coach to me?


um in the game you're the head coach

Mecca
08-03-2008, 03:55 PM
um in the game you're the head coach

Can you elaborate on this, I really don't understand.

J Diddy
08-03-2008, 04:07 PM
Can you elaborate on this, I really don't understand.

lol
it's complicated

Fried Meat Ball!
08-03-2008, 04:33 PM
Simply, it's like Madden Franchise on steroids. In game, you call the plays but don't actually play - during season you scout...

Learn more - go to http://www.easports.com/nflheadcoach09/home.jsp

TinyEvel
08-03-2008, 05:31 PM
Run, Run, pass, punt your way to mediocrity.

chiefs1111
08-03-2008, 05:57 PM
lol
it's complicated

Really? cause I don't like my football games to be complicated,lol

J Diddy
08-03-2008, 06:01 PM
Really? cause I don't like my football games to be complicated,lol


it's like tetris without the squares

Mecca
08-03-2008, 08:11 PM
I wonder if they'll ever let us do an online franchise...

chiefs1111
08-03-2008, 10:05 PM
it's like tetris without the squares

Ok ,now I understand! lol

Mr. Arrowhead
08-04-2008, 08:43 AM
I wonder if they'll ever let us do an online franchise...
no, i heard its just seasons, i think they will try to put that into next years version. But that would be sick to have a online franchise, where you can sign FA and draft players.

ChiefsFan4Life
08-04-2008, 08:55 AM
This is probably going to be the first year I don't buy Madden since I was 12 years old

Rausch
08-04-2008, 09:09 AM
This is probably going to be the first year I don't buy Madden since I was 12 years old

Why would you? The gameplay only changes every 3 years and when it does there's one $#itty addition for every good one.

Don't have current rosters on release date? Hell, even a 4 year old madden game allows you to fix that.

It's like getting tanked at the bar by 9 so that when you leave with another skag at 12 you at least can wake up the next day and say "Well, I thought she looked good anyway..."

J Diddy
08-04-2008, 09:13 AM
Why would you? The gameplay only changes every 3 years and when it does there's one $#itty addition for every good one.

Don't have current rosters on release date? Hell, even a 4 year old madden game allows you to fix that.

It's like getting tanked at the bar by 9 so that when you leave with another skag at 12 you at least can wake up the next day and say "Well, I thought she looked good anyway..."3

lol

you ain't related to denis leary are you

Pestilence
08-04-2008, 09:23 AM
I just reserved the Collecters Edition. I figured for $80....I get Madden 09, Head Coach 09 and Madden 93.....not that bad of a deal.

Rudy lost the toss
08-04-2008, 11:38 AM
is it still going to take an entire day to complete an offseason? Do people actually enjoy the current offseason mode? are they ever going to change it? Same could be said for NCAA. Faster simulations please

Mr. Arrowhead
08-04-2008, 11:44 AM
I just reserved the Collecters Edition. I figured for $80....I get Madden 09, Head Coach 09 and Madden 93.....not that bad of a deal.
I know, im stroked about madden 93, its gonna bring back some good memories. We can relive Joe Montana back with the chiefs

JBucc
08-04-2008, 11:54 AM
I know, im stroked about madden 93, its gonna bring back some good memories. We can relive Joe Montana back with the chiefsThe Madden 93 had updated rosters. So no Joe.

Gonzo
08-04-2008, 12:00 PM
I just bought a PS3 and immedeately bought Madden 08 just to have something to play. It's not bad, especially on a 52 inch big screen but I am a little disappointed that the graphics aren't all that much better than they were for the PS2.

beach tribe
08-04-2008, 12:12 PM
I just bought a PS3 and immedeately bought Madden 08 just to have something to play. It's not bad, especially on a 52 inch big screen but I am a little disappointed that the graphics aren't all that much better than they were for the PS2.

You haven't played it enough to see all tha BS.

chiefs1111
08-04-2008, 02:17 PM
You haven't played it enough to see all tha BS.

Well, it shouldn't take him that long to see all the bs,id say 2 more games or so...

Rausch
08-05-2008, 09:17 AM
3

lol

you ain't related to denis leary are you

No, but he's my AA sponsor...:evil:

Rausch
08-05-2008, 09:18 AM
You haven't played it enough to see all tha BS.

Some people don't need to look that long to recognize BS when they see it...

Fruit Ninja
08-05-2008, 01:51 PM
Some people don't need to look that long to recognize BS when they see it...

I like this guy. He knows EA's bullshit. Need more people to hold out just for 1 freaking year and not buy the damned game, then maybe they will change their damned approach. Casual gamers eat all that bullshit alive.

Pestilence
08-05-2008, 01:53 PM
I like this guy. He knows EA's bullshit. Need more people to hold out just for 1 freaking year and not buy the damned game, then maybe they will change their damned approach. Casual gamers eat all that bullshit alive.

And you do realize that it would never happen. EA Sports has enough fanboys in their backpocket to not care if 10,000 gamers don't buy their product. There will be 100,000 gamers out there that will.

Lzen
08-05-2008, 02:09 PM
I like this guy. He knows EA's bullshit. Need more people to hold out just for 1 freaking year and not buy the damned game, then maybe they will change their damned approach. Casual gamers eat all that bullshit alive.


Well, I don't plan on buying Madden this year. I did, however buy NCAA 09. Sue me.

It's far from perfect, but it's still somewhat fun.

Fruit Ninja
08-05-2008, 02:19 PM
And you do realize that it would never happen. EA Sports has enough fanboys in their backpocket to not care if 10,000 gamers don't buy their product. There will be 100,000 gamers out there that will.

I am not stupid, i realize that. I just know that i wont be buying a ****ing thing from EA for many many years. As a gamer i find EA insulting.


I even bought into the hype of Fifa 07. I heard about the solid reviews. So i was like ok, goign to give this game a shot. ONly come to find out that i never played a game were the AI was so ****ing stupid. AI on your team was just retarded i am talking about corky retarded. Then the opposing team's AI was as smart as Albert Einstien. The way EA translates difficulty is by the AI cheating, not by making that shit harder.

J Diddy
08-05-2008, 02:23 PM
And you do realize that it would never happen. EA Sports has enough fanboys in their backpocket to not care if 10,000 gamers don't buy their product. There will be 100,000 gamers out there that will.

I'm surprised Sega didn't go after the college market like they did with nfl 2k

especially right now, they'd be on a level playing field

Mecca
08-05-2008, 02:27 PM
I think EA has a license for college football....

J Diddy
08-05-2008, 02:29 PM
I think EA has a license for college football....


yeah but who cares

they can't give the roster names all they got is the team names

make them editable as the rosters, make a better game than them and let the chips fall where they may

JohnnyV13
08-05-2008, 02:43 PM
I still haven't forgiven EA for buying my favorite online WW2 air combat simulator (Air Warrior), then killing it in 6 months. (2001)

Fruit Ninja
08-05-2008, 02:44 PM
Sega is long gone out of the picture. Visual Concepts which is a divsion of Take Two and 2k Sports does the football/basketball/hockey games for 2K.

The 2K football series is not dead in the water. I know this because 2k has told me directly. One of the perks i get for helping them out. lol I dont know when we will hear of the new football game or what direction they are going with it, but i do expect one to be released for next football season. They always stated they wanted to do football games every other year.

Lzen
08-05-2008, 02:46 PM
yeah but who cares

they can't give the roster names all they got is the team names

make them editable as the rosters, make a better game than them and let the chips fall where they may

I wish they would. But alas, nobody has a better product to fit my needs. And don't anyone say APF. As much as I would like to get into that one, it has 2 major things lacking.
1. Editable/downloadable rosters. I don't think playing with HOF players is very realistic.
2. No franchise mode. That is the only mode I have ever played with any consistency. .

Crashride
08-05-2008, 03:14 PM
I dont understand what all the 2K masturbation is all about, at least for their football games. Even though I agree with everything being said about Madden in this thread, to me its still a better product than the 2K series. Everyone says Madden is to "arcade like" but I feel 2K is even more "Arcade like." Everyone raves about the amazing gang tackling but big deal when you can make the most ridiculous cuts just using the D pad.
Their basketball games are the best ive ever played though ill give them that.

Fruit Ninja
08-05-2008, 03:29 PM
in 2k5 if you knew how to use the analog stick to make cuts you can make some good ones, but in the 2k8 you cant, the player mometum thing cuts it down by alot. To do cuts you have to use the juke stick and but even then its not overpowered. I am actually playing it right now online, and its not happening for me. lol

The Bad Guy
08-05-2008, 03:55 PM
I went and bought the collectors edition.

I'm a dumb bastard.

Pestilence
08-05-2008, 04:06 PM
I went and bought the collectors edition.

I'm a dumb bastard.

Same here. :)

JohnnyV13
08-05-2008, 05:41 PM
I haven't bought a Madden product in YEARS until i picked up 08 for the PC on a fire sale price of 10 bucks.

Yeah, the graphics are better. But man, I'm sick of the big play itis. TOO many, fumbles, interceptions, interceptions returned for TDs, completed long passes. I also notice that runners tend to get consistently stuffed unless they break a 60 yard rush.

I did use the "sliders" to modify gameplay, but there are still limits to how much reasonable play you can achieve. I tried letting the CPU play games against itself and testing out different slider settings, in an attempt to get the game to produce both reasonable stats and gameplay.

Quarterbacks still have too low a completion percentage, i've got fumbles and INTs under control, but i have reasonable qb ratings, and yards per attempt totals. The commit feature for defense is still too effective. Teams get stuffed on short yardage runs almost all the time, which run contrary to actual NFL results.

beach tribe
08-06-2008, 09:34 AM
Some people don't need to look that long to recognize BS when they see it...

I know what you're saying, and I agree, but there are some seriously flustating glitches in that shit, that it takes a little while to catch on to. Especially if your having fun playing it the way this guy seems to be.

beach tribe
08-06-2008, 09:35 AM
I haven't bought a Madden product in YEARS until i picked up 08 for the PC on a fire sale price of 10 bucks.

Yeah, the graphics are better. But man, I'm sick of the big play itis. TOO many, fumbles, interceptions, interceptions returned for TDs, completed long passes. I also notice that runners tend to get consistently stuffed unless they break a 60 yard rush.

I did use the "sliders" to modify gameplay, but there are still limits to how much reasonable play you can achieve. I tried letting the CPU play games against itself and testing out different slider settings, in an attempt to get the game to produce both reasonable stats and gameplay.

Quarterbacks still have too low a completion percentage, i've got fumbles and INTs under control, but i have reasonable qb ratings, and yards per attempt totals. The commit feature for defense is still too effective. Teams get stuffed on short yardage runs almost all the time, which run contrary to actual NFL results.

None of that shit is contrary to actual NFL results.

Demonpenz
08-06-2008, 09:52 AM
I found all pro football from 2k very enjoyable

JohnnyV13
08-06-2008, 04:17 PM
None of that shit is contrary to actual NFL results.

hell yes they are. Try looking up 3 and 1 or 3rd and inches converstion percentages on Stats Inc. In madden, u will convert these downs less than half the time if the defense uses the commit feature. In the real nfl, those percentages are well over 50 percent.

I played 6 games of the 2007 season as the Chiefs. I had over 20 interceptions and 12 fumble recoveries IN SIX GAMES. Btw....that's what MY DEFENSE produced. (I'm complaining about GOOD results for me). Of course, I threw a lot of INTs and fumbles, but those could be the result of poor play, so i threw them out. Tamba Hali was on his way to being a superstar, he had 8 sacks in 6 games. I also, however, gave up a bundle of long pass completions.

The chiefs (in reality) were 28th in stopping the run. My Chiefs stuffed the run like crazy. They gave up less than 60yards per game rushing (i was playing on all pro level).

That's when I got disgusted and started using the sliders and letting the machine play itself, trying to produce reasonable game play. Quarterbacks still complete around 50 percent of their passes, but tend to be lower, with a lot of long pass completions.

Its like the dang thing is programmed to play raider football from the 60's and 70's.

Mr Luzcious
08-06-2008, 05:23 PM
This may be the first year I get Madden. Maybe.

MTG#10
08-06-2008, 06:40 PM
Free $10 Amazon Gift Card when you pre-order Madden NFL 09 (http://www.slickdeals.net/?nojs=1)
<label>http://i.slickdeals.net/images/slickdeals/blank.gifComments (62) (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=888991) | http://i.slickdeals.net/images/slickdeals/blank.gifShare This (http://forums.slickdeals.net/sendmessage.php?do=sendtofriend&t=888991) | http://i.slickdeals.net/images/slickdeals/blank.gifPermalink (http://www.slickdeals.net/permadeal/13456/Free-10-Amazon-Gift-Card-when-you-pre-order-Madden-NFL-09) </label> http://i.slickdeals.net/images/slickdeals/blank.gif (http://www.slickdeals.net/index.php?tag=Games)
http://i.slickdeals.net/images/slickdeals/dealimage/1/3/4/13456.jpg (http://www.slickdeals.net/?pno=13456&lno=1&afsrc=1) Amazon (http://slickdeals.net/?pno=13456&lno=1&afsrc=1) offers a Free $10 Amazon Gift Card (http://slickdeals.net/?pno=13456&lno=2&afsrc=1) when you pre-order Madden NFL 09. The price of the game depends on which version you buy, starting at $29.99. The game will be released on Aug 12, 2008. Thanks slimshady_in_u.

Note: Gift card code and redemption instructions will be sent out via email by August 31st, 2008
PS3 (http://slickdeals.net/?pno=13456&lno=3&afsrc=1) + $10 GC $60
XBOX (http://slickdeals.net/?pno=13456&lno=4&afsrc=1) + $10 GC $40
WII (http://slickdeals.net/?pno=13456&lno=5&afsrc=1) + $10 GC $50
XBOX 360 (http://slickdeals.net/?pno=13456&lno=6&afsrc=1) + $10 GC $60
PS2 (http://slickdeals.net/?pno=13456&lno=7&afsrc=1) + $10 GC $40
DS (http://slickdeals.net/?pno=13456&lno=8&afsrc=1) + $10 GC $30

Mr. Arrowhead
08-06-2008, 06:41 PM
that basically covers the shipping

MTG#10
08-06-2008, 06:53 PM
Shipping is free.

Guru
08-06-2008, 10:44 PM
I might buy 09 once 10 comes out.

The Bad Guy
08-06-2008, 11:33 PM
that basically covers the shipping

Since I have Amazon Prime, shipping is free and I'm guaranteed to have the game in my hands on Tuesday.

J Diddy
08-07-2008, 01:00 AM
hell yes they are. Try looking up 3 and 1 or 3rd and inches converstion percentages on Stats Inc. In madden, u will convert these downs less than half the time if the defense uses the commit feature. In the real nfl, those percentages are well over 50 percent.

I played 6 games of the 2007 season as the Chiefs. I had over 20 interceptions and 12 fumble recoveries IN SIX GAMES. Btw....that's what MY DEFENSE produced. (I'm complaining about GOOD results for me). Of course, I threw a lot of INTs and fumbles, but those could be the result of poor play, so i threw them out. Tamba Hali was on his way to being a superstar, he had 8 sacks in 6 games. I also, however, gave up a bundle of long pass completions.

The chiefs (in reality) were 28th in stopping the run. My Chiefs stuffed the run like crazy. They gave up less than 60yards per game rushing (i was playing on all pro level).

That's when I got disgusted and started using the sliders and letting the machine play itself, trying to produce reasonable game play. Quarterbacks still complete around 50 percent of their passes, but tend to be lower, with a lot of long pass completions.

Its like the dang thing is programmed to play raider football from the 60's and 70's.


slightly anal much?

Guru
08-07-2008, 01:09 AM
slightly anal much?

Raider - Anal

sounds right to me.:D

Lzen
08-07-2008, 08:15 AM
hell yes they are. Try looking up 3 and 1 or 3rd and inches converstion percentages on Stats Inc. In madden, u will convert these downs less than half the time if the defense uses the commit feature. In the real nfl, those percentages are well over 50 percent.

I played 6 games of the 2007 season as the Chiefs. I had over 20 interceptions and 12 fumble recoveries IN SIX GAMES. Btw....that's what MY DEFENSE produced. (I'm complaining about GOOD results for me). Of course, I threw a lot of INTs and fumbles, but those could be the result of poor play, so i threw them out. Tamba Hali was on his way to being a superstar, he had 8 sacks in 6 games. I also, however, gave up a bundle of long pass completions.

The chiefs (in reality) were 28th in stopping the run. My Chiefs stuffed the run like crazy. They gave up less than 60yards per game rushing (i was playing on all pro level).

That's when I got disgusted and started using the sliders and letting the machine play itself, trying to produce reasonable game play. Quarterbacks still complete around 50 percent of their passes, but tend to be lower, with a lot of long pass completions.

Its like the dang thing is programmed to play raider football from the 60's and 70's.

Just curious. What version were you playing? I play 08 on PC with these sliders. Seems pretty realistic to me.

MTG#10
08-07-2008, 12:29 PM
Since I have Amazon Prime, shipping is free and I'm guaranteed to have the game in my hands on Tuesday.
For the deal I posted shipping is free for everyone.

Fried Meat Ball!
08-07-2008, 12:41 PM
For the deal I posted shipping is free for everyone.

You just won't get it on the release date. That's the difference.

Sure-Oz
08-07-2008, 11:52 PM
Apparently you can DL a new cover and print it off, according to ESPN...

dorseybowe
08-07-2008, 11:57 PM
It's bullshit that people keep buying this game every year. It's the same game. They need to find a way to just update gamers' current version for the year, rather than forcing them to shell out $50-$60 every year. Oh, wait. It's all about money.

ChiefsFan4Life
08-08-2008, 06:57 AM
It's bullshit that people keep buying this game every year. It's the same game. They need to find a way to just update gamers' current version for the year, rather than forcing them to shell out $50-$60 every year. Oh, wait. It's all about money.

Nothing will change unless EA Sports loses it's exclusive license with the NFL

RedDread
08-08-2008, 07:03 AM
My copy shipped yesterday...of course it takes 5-7 days to get here. Still awesome of Amazon to send it so early.

Mr. Arrowhead
08-08-2008, 12:57 PM
I just got back from game stop, i reserved the collectors edition. Cant wait til tuesday

J Diddy
08-08-2008, 01:00 PM
im just gonna wait

i bought ncaa and its keeping me busy

Sure-Oz
08-08-2008, 01:09 PM
I liked the ESPN version on PS2 few years back

Mr. Arrowhead
08-08-2008, 01:12 PM
im prolly just gonna trade in the NCAA 09 game for 40 dollars

J Diddy
08-08-2008, 01:27 PM
im prolly just gonna trade in the NCAA 09 game for 40 dollars


really?

don't like it

Pestilence
08-08-2008, 01:38 PM
im prolly just gonna trade in the NCAA 09 game for 40 dollars

The trade in value is that high still?

Usually they drop pretty rapidly after they come out.

Mr. Arrowhead
08-08-2008, 02:10 PM
really?

don't like it
its ok, im just not really that big of a College football fan, i may get into it a little more if they decide to have a playoff, but i guess thats a discussion for a different time. And in all honestly i would hardly play the college game when i get Madden because Im clearly more of a NFL guy

Mr. Arrowhead
08-08-2008, 02:12 PM
The trade in value is that high still?

Usually they drop pretty rapidly after they come out.
yea they gave me a coupon when i bought the game which says if you trade in NCAA 09 toward your puchase toward madden, then you get $40 off

J Diddy
08-08-2008, 02:25 PM
its ok, im just not really that big of a College football fan, i may get into it a little more if they decide to have a playoff, but i guess thats a discussion for a different time. And in all honestly i would hardly play the college game when i get Madden because Im clearly more of a NFL guy


fair enough

i will say that the online dynasty is the clincher for me

i hear that they will have online seasons but not franchise

that i don't like

The Bad Guy
08-09-2008, 07:58 PM
I cancelled my pre-order with Gamestop for the collectors edition and went with the regular version of the PS3 through Amazon.

okcchief
08-09-2008, 09:56 PM
I'm going to trade NCAA for the $40 also. I'm in for a season if you get going here.

J Diddy
08-09-2008, 10:13 PM
I'm going to trade NCAA for the $40 also. I'm in for a season if you get going here.

where is that offer at?

Mr. Arrowhead
08-09-2008, 10:31 PM
where is that offer at?
if you bought NCAA 09 at Gamestop, they should have gave you a black Card, that says if you trade in NCAA 09 towards Madd09 then you get $40 off. If you dont have that coupon then you only get $28 off i believe

J Diddy
08-09-2008, 10:32 PM
if you bought NCAA 09 at Gamestop, they should have gave you a black Card, that says if you trade in NCAA 09 towards Madd09 then you get $40 off. If you dont have that coupon then you only get $28 off i believe


yeah I'm starting to think maybe i should stick to madden

Mecca
08-09-2008, 10:36 PM
Um I'm not trading NCAA I want the draft classes for Madden.

The Bad Guy
08-09-2008, 11:06 PM
Um I'm not trading NCAA I want the draft classes for Madden.

For PS3, you can just put the draft classes on a flash drive.

Mr. Arrowhead
08-10-2008, 09:51 AM
Um I'm not trading NCAA I want the draft classes for Madden.
Im just gonna simulate a whole bunch of season and put the draft classes all on my hard drive, before i trade it in

okcchief
08-10-2008, 10:07 AM
Im just gonna simulate a whole bunch of season and put the draft classes all on my hard drive, before i trade it in

Good idea

dj56dt58
08-10-2008, 10:21 AM
you can sell ncaaa 09 on ebay for around 35-40

J Diddy
08-10-2008, 10:38 AM
Im just gonna simulate a whole bunch of season and put the draft classes all on my hard drive, before i trade it in
Yeah I was thinking of do that myself

lol

Guru
08-10-2008, 11:43 AM
Are they returning to the function of just calling the plays without having to actually control a player? I suck at the actual gameplay.

BWillie
08-10-2008, 04:24 PM
I know this has already been discussed but when does Madden come out? Anybody want to trade GTA for Madden? I've got really really bored with GTA. You can only blow people up, steal drugs, and commit vehicular homicide so many times.

Fried Meat Ball!
08-10-2008, 08:36 PM
I know this has already been discussed but when does Madden come out? Anybody want to trade GTA for Madden? I've got really really bored with GTA. You can only blow people up, steal drugs, and commit vehicular homicide so many times.

Tuesday. Not trading. Sorry.

Huffman83
08-11-2008, 11:30 AM
I downloaded the demo and it starts you out w/ the football IQ test and how well you play. The defense shit is hard! No matter how many times I tried to get better at pass defense it was never good enough and if you did a good thing on one play. You'd get burned the next one.

Then I got to play the "Madden moments." trying to do the Giants last superbowl drive in the 4th quarter. I'm not too impressed w/ the actual feel of the game. However it does look good.

Mr. Arrowhead
08-11-2008, 12:01 PM
11 more hours til its Madden Time!

J Diddy
08-11-2008, 12:16 PM
I downloaded the demo and it starts you out w/ the football IQ test and how well you play. The defense shit is hard! No matter how many times I tried to get better at pass defense it was never good enough and if you did a good thing on one play. You'd get burned the next one.

Then I got to play the "Madden moments." trying to do the Giants last superbowl drive in the 4th quarter. I'm not too impressed w/ the actual feel of the game. However it does look good.

yeah the feel is kinda different

there is no rolling out to the sideline every time:D

beach tribe
08-11-2008, 01:16 PM
hell yes they are. Try looking up 3 and 1 or 3rd and inches converstion percentages on Stats Inc. In madden, u will convert these downs less than half the time if the defense uses the commit feature. In the real nfl, those percentages are well over 50 percent.

I played 6 games of the 2007 season as the Chiefs. I had over 20 interceptions and 12 fumble recoveries IN SIX GAMES. Btw....that's what MY DEFENSE produced. (I'm complaining about GOOD results for me). Of course, I threw a lot of INTs and fumbles, but those could be the result of poor play, so i threw them out. Tamba Hali was on his way to being a superstar, he had 8 sacks in 6 games. I also, however, gave up a bundle of long pass completions.

The chiefs (in reality) were 28th in stopping the run. My Chiefs stuffed the run like crazy. They gave up less than 60yards per game rushing (i was playing on all pro level).

That's when I got disgusted and started using the sliders and letting the machine play itself, trying to produce reasonable game play. Quarterbacks still complete around 50 percent of their passes, but tend to be lower, with a lot of long pass completions.

Its like the dang thing is programmed to play raider football from the 60's and 70's.

I was saying nothing on Madden is going to the same as in real life. I either typed wrong, or you read wrong. I am totally agreeing with you.


Yeah, I see it. I wrote it wrong. Sorry.

J Diddy
08-11-2008, 10:25 PM
talked myself into getting it

going up in about 30 minutes

dj56dt58
08-11-2008, 10:27 PM
not getting it till i hear you guys reviews..

J Diddy
08-12-2008, 12:51 AM
OK I bought it, played my first game online. Seems to slow the play down alot. I don't see how a straight bomb cheeser will survive. Makes it harder to complete the 80 yard strikes. running is a whore. period.

Cool thing is it lists a ton of stats about your opponent online including

wait..
wait.. wait.. yes mecca rolling out on pass plays (btw i was at 0% in my last victory) Haven't dealt with glitches yet played 1 guy with average stick skills who happened to be lapping on brett balls

Gary
08-12-2008, 05:39 AM
I'll throw my gripe on Madden in the hat. Never fails...after a few years in franchise mode, you will inevitably see like 15 superstars get cut. To see Favre, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, & Carson Palmer on the QB free agent list all at the same time is a bit much.

Mr. Plow
08-12-2008, 06:39 AM
I have zero interest in Madden this year. I feel like it's been a waste of my money for the past several years. I'll rent it, play my one season, and be done with it.

Lzen
08-12-2008, 09:17 AM
OK I bought it, played my first game online. Seems to slow the play down alot. I don't see how a straight bomb cheeser will survive. Makes it harder to complete the 80 yard strikes. running is a whore. period.

Cool thing is it lists a ton of stats about your opponent online including

wait..
wait.. wait.. yes mecca rolling out on pass plays (btw i was at 0% in my last victory) Haven't dealt with glitches yet played 1 guy with average stick skills who happened to be lapping on brett balls

Do you still have NCAA 09? Or did you trade it in?

Sure-Oz
08-12-2008, 10:00 AM
I was thinking of getting a new game for my ps3, which ne Madden 09 or NCAA 09? I want a football game for sure...if madden sucks i dont want to bother

J Diddy
08-12-2008, 10:38 AM
Do you still have NCAA 09? Or did you trade it in?

I still have it

I just cleared my entertainment center of all maddens past and a couple other games

J Diddy
08-12-2008, 10:39 AM
I was thinking of getting a new game for my ps3, which ne Madden 09 or NCAA 09? I want a football game for sure...if madden sucks i dont want to bother


you want my advice, play the demos they both have a pretty good feel for gameplay

to me madden is more grown up

Deberg_1990
08-12-2008, 10:41 AM
Anyone get the Wii version of this? Im considering buying it. Havent bought a Madden game in years.

J Diddy
08-12-2008, 10:47 AM
Anyone get the Wii version of this? Im considering buying it. Havent bought a Madden game in years.

I played last years wii version, but playing on line is a joke. Any lag throws you off.

Can't tell you how many times I played and threw the ball off the snap because lag caused my controller to screw up. (usually resulting in a pick)

I did hear that they were gonna simplify the controllers some more this year but don't know

PastorMikH
08-12-2008, 10:53 AM
Picked up the Wii version today at the local movie store. They hadn't even gotten them out of the box yet. Haven't had a chance to play it yet. The last Madden I had was late 90's or early 2ks on the PC so I really don't have any experience on more recent Maddens to compare it to.

Since the movie store hadn't broke out the case yet, they probably have more copies. Any chance of this game being like Mario Cart and having a hard time staying on the shelves for a while and selling on Ebay for $75+?

Jenson71
08-12-2008, 11:01 AM
If you want the updated roster, you have to first go to an online game and download the rosters.

I want the Head Coach updated rosters - I assume it works the same way, but I haven't tried it yet.

Sure-Oz
08-12-2008, 11:39 AM
you want my advice, play the demos they both have a pretty good feel for gameplay

to me madden is more grown up

I would but it takes forever to download anything on my ps3 using wifi...i have no idea why though


Wii seems to dl stuff faster

I might have to rent it first, i really want a sports game...the only game i have is the ps3 grand theft auto

Deberg_1990
08-12-2008, 11:45 AM
I played last years wii version, but playing on line is a joke. Any lag throws you off.

Can't tell you how many times I played and threw the ball off the snap because lag caused my controller to screw up. (usually resulting in a pick)

I did hear that they were gonna simplify the controllers some more this year but don't know


Just read a review for it on IGN. Got an 8.6. They raved about the Call Your Shots mode

Call Your Shots allows the player to create his or her own plays on the fly and direct receivers where they should run, using the pointer function of the Wii Remote.

Sounds alot like the point and click stuff in Pro Evolution Soccer which is a great game for the Wii.

Sure-Oz
08-12-2008, 11:59 AM
the PS3 version got a 8.8 and the anny version a 9.1, whats the difference between the 2 except the higher price on the anny edition

Jenson71
08-12-2008, 12:17 PM
If you want the updated roster, you have to first go to an online game and download the rosters.

I want the Head Coach updated rosters - I assume it works the same way, but I haven't tried it yet.

In Head Coach, one of the options near the main menu is to update the roster. That's pretty cool.

J Diddy
08-12-2008, 12:36 PM
I would but it takes forever to download anything on my ps3 using wifi...i have no idea why though


Wii seems to dl stuff faster

I might have to rent it first, i really want a sports game...the only game i have is the ps3 grand theft auto

I would recommend playing them first, the feel of the two are night and day

NCAA feels like playing madden 5 years ago to me.

Valiant
08-12-2008, 12:43 PM
Picked up the Wii version today at the local movie store. They hadn't even gotten them out of the box yet. Haven't had a chance to play it yet. The last Madden I had was late 90's or early 2ks on the PC so I really don't have any experience on more recent Maddens to compare it to.

Since the movie store hadn't broke out the case yet, they probably have more copies. Any chance of this game being like Mario Cart and having a hard time staying on the shelves for a while and selling on Ebay for $75+?

No..

J Diddy
08-12-2008, 12:46 PM
No..


yeah I went at midnight to pick up my copy, there was still a ton of them left

It's too early to say if I like it or not but I did enjoy the game I played. I think it will be a lot harder to cheese in too

Pestilence
08-12-2008, 01:42 PM
I'm picking up my copy for the PS3 after work today. I'll let everyone knows how it goes.

beach tribe
08-12-2008, 01:47 PM
Pretty funny how every year it's this big pre-order marketing gimmick.

I've nevr done, and I've never had trouble getting a copy.

Pestilence
08-12-2008, 01:55 PM
Pretty funny how every year it's this big pre-order marketing gimmick.

I've nevr done, and I've never had trouble getting a copy.

I guess you can say that I preordered it but really I just consider it paying ahead of time.

The part that I found funny was that when I paid for it....the guy at the register made sure to remind me to show up for their midnight sale going on, so that I could be the first person to run home and play it right away. I laughed and told him no thanks...I have a real job. He didn't laugh.

The Bad Guy
08-12-2008, 02:20 PM
I guess you can say that I preordered it but really I just consider it paying ahead of time.

The part that I found funny was that when I paid for it....the guy at the register made sure to remind me to show up for their midnight sale going on, so that I could be the first person to run home and play it right away. I laughed and told him no thanks...I have a real job. He didn't laugh.

So everyone that got it at midnight doesn't have a real job?

Fruit Ninja
08-12-2008, 02:33 PM
So everyone that got it at midnight doesn't have a real job?

God forbid someone takes a day off to play a video game. oooh noes.

Fruit Ninja
08-12-2008, 02:33 PM
I laughed and told him no thanks...I have a real job. He didn't laugh.

Because it wasn't funny at all?

The Bad Guy
08-12-2008, 03:17 PM
God forbid someone takes a day off to play a video game. oooh noes.

Or be a teacher and have the entire summer off.

QuikSsurfer
08-12-2008, 03:18 PM
I guess you can say that I preordered it but really I just consider it paying ahead of time.

The part that I found funny was that when I paid for it....the guy at the register made sure to remind me to show up for their midnight sale going on, so that I could be the first person to run home and play it right away. I laughed and told him no thanks...I have a real job. He didn't laugh.

I wouldn't have laughed either...

Sure-Oz
08-12-2008, 03:38 PM
I would've left it at No Thanks

Pestilence
08-12-2008, 03:46 PM
Alright....jeez. I'm not a comedian.

QuikSsurfer
08-12-2008, 03:47 PM
Alright....jeez. I'm not a comedian.

lol -- dog pile!

The Bad Guy
08-12-2008, 03:47 PM
Well this game freezes up. I tried to go online into the lobbies, and everytime it freezes.

I took it back and got another one- still freezes.

I deleted the patch, and re-downloaded, still freezing.

Never had a problem like this with my PS3.

Pestilence
08-12-2008, 03:48 PM
Well this game freezes up. I tried to go online into the lobbies, and everytime it freezes.

I took it back and got another one- still freezes.

I deleted the patch, and re-downloaded, still freezing.

Never had a problem like this with my PS3.

Damn....that's not looking good for me.

Pestilence
08-12-2008, 03:48 PM
lol -- dog pile!

Yeah what the hell......****ers. LMAO

beach tribe
08-12-2008, 03:49 PM
OOOOH MYY GOD.

I just played my first game. (there were 30 on the shelf)

And I have to say from my first game that the

game play is ATROCIOUS.

Receiving animations are RIDICULOUS.

Overall it is GARBAGE.

Every pass TG catches on a crossing pattern is behind him, and he does a stupid little jump turn catch that stops him in his tracks. The camera angles are horrible. the game is jumpy, and not nearly as fluid as NCAA, yet the Tennessee Vols, and the Kansas city Chiefs have almost the exact same play book.


I'm disgusted that I just paid 65 dollars for this. Hopefully it grows on me, but I doubt it.

08 was not a great game. 09 is WORSE.

Count Zarth
08-12-2008, 03:59 PM
Wow.

Mr. Arrowhead
08-12-2008, 04:12 PM
personally i think this is the best madden ever

Sure-Oz
08-12-2008, 04:13 PM
I am glad im waiting to rent it first...

chiefs1111
08-12-2008, 04:13 PM
I am glad im waiting to rent it first...

Same here ,lol

Pestilence
08-12-2008, 04:14 PM
I figure if it sucks.....I have at least Head Coach and Madden 93 to play.

Buck
08-12-2008, 04:19 PM
Every pass TG catches on a crossing pattern is behind him, and he does a stupid little jump turn catch that stops him in his tracks. The camera angles are horrible. the game is jumpy, and not nearly as fluid as NCAA, yet the Tennessee Vols, and the Kansas city Chiefs have almost the exact same play book.

Are you leading the receiver or no?

I picked up the game on my lunch break have yet to play...

beach tribe
08-12-2008, 04:19 PM
personally i think this is the best madden ever

How can you stand the jumpy ass gameplay. It looks like that old Gameday shit.


Maybe I need time to get used to it, but I don't think it's near as good as NCAA, and I don't like college football near as much as pro ball.

ChiefsFan4Life
08-12-2008, 04:22 PM
Well this game freezes up. I tried to go online into the lobbies, and everytime it freezes.

I took it back and got another one- still freezes.

I deleted the patch, and re-downloaded, still freezing.

Never had a problem like this with my PS3.

This isn't your PS3 .. it's EA's servers

There are tons of people with the same issue right now

beach tribe
08-12-2008, 04:22 PM
Are you leading the receiver or no?

I picked up the game on my lunch break have yet to play...

Ok check this. If Tony is on the right, in the slot or in tight, and does a crossing pattern, if he crosses the left hash, it doesn't matter if you try to lead him, the ball is behind him, and he does a jump twist that completely stops his momentum everytime.

Pestilence
08-12-2008, 04:32 PM
Ok check this. If Tony is on the right, in the slot or in tight, and does a crossing pattern, if he crosses the left hash, it doesn't matter if you try to lead him, the ball is behind him, and he does a jump twist that completely stops his momentum everytime.

You think maybe it's something to do with Brodie Croyle at QB? Go try it with Dallas Clark and Peyton Manning and see if it does the same thing.

Mr. Arrowhead
08-12-2008, 04:34 PM
How can you stand the jumpy ass gameplay. It looks like that old Gameday shit.


Maybe I need time to get used to it, but I don't think it's near as good as NCAA, and I don't like college football near as much as pro ball.
i actually like the game play a whole lot better than the NCAA

Mecca
08-12-2008, 04:49 PM
Ok check this. If Tony is on the right, in the slot or in tight, and does a crossing pattern, if he crosses the left hash, it doesn't matter if you try to lead him, the ball is behind him, and he does a jump twist that completely stops his momentum everytime.

From what I understand it's because Croyle is awful on this game...

Deberg_1990
08-12-2008, 05:11 PM
OK, i bought the Wii version on the way home from work. Just got done playing Chiefs Vs. Chargers.

The run game seems incredibly too easy. LJ had 25 carries for 269 yards and 4 TD's.

I won the game 33-7.

Rivers threw 5 INT's hahahah

The Bad Guy
08-12-2008, 05:13 PM
Passing is a bitch.

I put it in on all-madden against the Pats.

Lost 34-7.

Buck
08-12-2008, 05:13 PM
Ok check this. If Tony is on the right, in the slot or in tight, and does a crossing pattern, if he crosses the left hash, it doesn't matter if you try to lead him, the ball is behind him, and he does a jump twist that completely stops his momentum everytime.

Ok, when I get home I'll check.

I haven't been a Madden Gamer in quite some time, so I'm just really excited that I'm back into video games.

Mecca
08-12-2008, 05:15 PM
If you love playing franchise you're ****ed.....the progression is broken, one guy simmed 7 years and Leinart didn't move one point and no one else did either....if you edit any player it screws everything up aswell, so if you draft a CB who's #2 you have to leave it.

If you are a hardcore franchise gamer, get head coach that seems to be the way the go, Right now it appears the only thing madden is good for is online play.

The Bad Guy
08-12-2008, 05:16 PM
If you love playing franchise you're ****ed.....the progression is broken, one guy simmed 7 years and Leinart didn't move one point and no one else did either....if you edit any player it screws everything up aswell, so if you draft a CB who's #2 you have to leave it.

If you are a hardcore franchise gamer, get head coach that seems to be the way the go, Right now it appears the only thing madden is good for is online play.

I just don't understand how they can let something like that happen.

The franchise is something that's been in games for years, but they can't figure this out? I thought the next generation consoles were going to open up everything for EA? Instead, they have taken about 20 steps back.

I like the game, but it should be better.

Buck
08-12-2008, 05:19 PM
I'm sure they can patch it...

So in Head Coach you just pick plays and not actually play or what?

Mecca
08-12-2008, 05:21 PM
I just don't understand how they can let something like that happen.

The franchise is something that's been in games for years, but they can't figure this out? I thought the next generation consoles were going to open up everything for EA? Instead, they have taken about 20 steps back.

I like the game, but it should be better.

It's because they don't care, they are now essentially putting out a game "head coach" for sim gamers like say me.

Madden every year becomes more arcade ridden and favorable to "madden nation" gamers, this year their big stuff was how they added things for online play, madden has become an online arcade football game, all they care about is online, they don't care about franchise and don't think most of the people playing their game do either.

Mecca
08-12-2008, 05:22 PM
I'm sure they can patch it...

So in Head Coach you just pick plays and not actually play or what?

Yea you don't actually play the plays, it's a very in depth game, I can post a big review a guy did on it in comparison to madden if you want.

Buck
08-12-2008, 05:23 PM
Yea you don't actually play the plays, it's a very in depth game, I can post a big review a guy did on it in comparison to madden if you want.

Yes, do it. THanks.

Deberg_1990
08-12-2008, 05:26 PM
Wow, the Wii version actually has an interface with EA sports. You can create a login ID and it keeps tracks of your stats like XBox and Sony.

Nintendo is slowly starting to catch up with the rest of the world.

Mecca
08-12-2008, 05:30 PM
Here's a review...

I'm one of the most hardcore franchise guys, and I love any simulation game. The first Head Coach had the right idea, but it was executed horribly. The new Head Coach is nothing like it, so get those thoughts out of your head. In this thread, I'll try to tell you guys why you should buy the Collector's Edition of Madden, or buy only the standalone game if you solely buy Madden for franchise.

When it comes to Free Agency, Madden has a horrible way of doing things. Up the money and you get anybody you want, but it never really comes back to bite you. In Head Coach, there is sort of an auction system on players. A pop up screen will come up, and there will be a variety of teams bidding on the player. There is 60 seconds on the clock, and teams keep raising the bid. When the price gets too high for a certain team, they will drop out, which you can visually see. The last team that remains in the bidding gets to negotiate a contract with the Free Agent, which is relatively easy. You choose from already given packages, all with given amounts of incentives and years and salaries, etc. That's how free agents are signed. Also, something that ties in with this is salary cap. Everybody that plays Madden knows the salary cap is atrocious. To keep it simple, the salary in this game is realistic. You sign 10 guys in free agency, and you can say hello to salary cap hell.

Another thing in Madden that needs a ton of work is trading. This is something that the Head Coach team took a lot of time to work on. Trades with player for player in the NFL are very rare, and they will be in this game also. You can put as many players as you want on the trading block, and the computer won't ask for any player not on the block. They'll offer you a variety of packages and you can see which one you want. That also goes for trading in the draft and picking a player that you want to trade for. The cpu will give you all the options, you can pick what you want to give up.

Another thing that is small in Madden, but needed work is the rookie contract negotiations. Select the rookie, and the contract is just there. That's the best contract pretty much. But in Head Coach, rookie contracts are hard to negotiate. You once again have packages, with different incentives, etc. These talks are much harder than free agency, and you will want to get them done to get your rookie into camp. You can cave in to their demands, or the contract negotiations can go on for the whole season. But more on getting guys into camp later...

The scouting in Madden is horrible also. It barely works lol. In Head Coach, there is a Senior Bowl, and your staff determines the amount of players/info you can scout. There are individual workouts and a combine, and each player gets graded. It's a pretty robust system which is hard to explain, so you'll have to experience it yourself. Trust me when I say though, that it's better than Madden's scouting.

The draft itself is a biggy. In Madden, it's bland and the overalls are bad and teams have bad AI. In Head Coach, teams draft for actual needs and trade up/down when necessary. There are busts and gems, so scouting is important. There are 21,000 pre-created rookies and they have their own stories and ratings, etc. Schefter will give you news about the draft and the college football season as you go through your season, and he will also give analysis of some of the picks made. There are mock drafts and everything else, everything you've wanted your Madden draft to be.

One of the great things about Head Coach is the rating system. It's not broken in Madden, but a lot of things don't matter and the progression is horrible. In Head Coach, players all have hard-coded potential for everything, which can turn people off. The thing is, players will only reach that potential with the right coaching, production, and systems. Ratings are dynamic and change depending on all of those things, so Ronde Barber might be bad in a man scheme, but he'll be great in the Tampa 2. Things like that matter for both you and the cpu on who you draft, sign, and trade for.

A nice thing that matters in Head Coach is playbooks. The playbooks are a big part to any coach's job, so they are in the game too. You can create your playbook (up to 200 O and 200 D plays) with your own custom plays and plays from other coach's books. You can also create plays on the fly in games. You can hire other team's coaches and coaches from the college ranks will come into the NFL and if you sign them, you can take plays from their playbook and add it to your own. The option, the wishbone, etc. Another realistic but often unnoticed thing is that players have to learn the playbooks. Each player has a learning rating that determines how quickly they can learn the plays. This is why you get guys into camp, if they don't know the plays they won't execute. Each player can have any play unlearned, learned, or mastered. You learn plays by using them in-game and also in training camp/practice.

Restricted Free Agents are realistic also, thought I'd throw that in there.

In game, you can call the plays, but not control the players. It seems as though the CPU plays smarter than in Madden, and the results are more realistic. Overthrows, underthrows, big plays, negative gains, everything else. The graphics aren't as good as Madden's but the way it plays outweighs the not-amazing graphics.

In practice. you can scheme to stop players or practice certain things. Depending on the level of your coaches, you get a certain amount of gamebreaking type plays come game day. Maybe I get 4 with Mike Martz or something. If I practiced the blitz, then I can call that blitz 4 times on game day and my team gets a huge stat boost for that play. This doesn't mean automatic success, but your chances improve.

The main downers of the game are that the graphics are weak, which doesn't really matter because coaching the game is a small part of the game. You can't control the players which ticks some people, but a lot of people like scheming and the x's and o's so controlling the players isn't a problem.

Any more questions about the game, ask and I'll do my best to answer them. I don't have the game, but I've read virtually everything put out on the game, listened to the podcasts, read all the Logic, gameplay, and lead producer Q&A's, and read all of the consumer impressions.

Pestilence
08-12-2008, 05:34 PM
God...why can't they just combine the two and actually create a Franchise mode that ****ing works like it should.

Mecca
08-12-2008, 05:36 PM
God...why can't they just combine the two and actually create a Franchise mode that ****ing works like it should.

Madden is now meant to appeal to kids and the madden nation douchebags oh and online cheesers.

Pestilence
08-12-2008, 05:41 PM
Madden is now meant to appeal to kids and the madden nation douchebags oh and online cheesers.

Those freaking Madden Nation douchebags piss me off. I knew they had no talent when I watched the kid play with the Chiefs and he used Casey Printers because he could roll out with him.

J Diddy
08-12-2008, 05:41 PM
Passing is a bitch.

I put it in on all-madden against the Pats.

Lost 34-7.


yeah you literally got 5 seconds

J Diddy
08-12-2008, 05:43 PM
Well this game freezes up. I tried to go online into the lobbies, and everytime it freezes.

I took it back and got another one- still freezes.

I deleted the patch, and re-downloaded, still freezing.

Never had a problem like this with my PS3.

did you get that fixed

didn't have a problem last night

chiefs1111
08-12-2008, 05:44 PM
[QUOTE=pestilenceaf23;4910316]God...why can't they just combine the two and actually create a Franchise mode that ****ing works like it should.[/QUOT

cause they are just to dumb....

chiefs1111
08-12-2008, 05:47 PM
This game used be so awesome. I just don't understand how it could have gotten this bad over the last few years...

TrickyNicky
08-12-2008, 05:52 PM
[QUOTE=pestilenceaf23;4910316]God...why can't they just combine the two and actually create a Franchise mode that ****ing works like it should.[/QUOT

cause they are just to dumb....

More like they enjoy money. Have to recoup that exclusivity deal somehow.

J Diddy
08-12-2008, 05:54 PM
[quote=pestilenceaf23;4910316]God...why can't they just combine the two and actually create a Franchise mode that ****ing works like it should.[/QUOT

cause they are just to dumb....

some guy just paid $80 for madden and head coach and 93 version of madden combined and they're the ones that are dumb

PastorMikH
08-12-2008, 05:55 PM
Chiefs 49 Dolphins 13

having a hard time getting the right WR on passes. I did rent madden 06 or 07 back when we first got the wii and each WR had an arrow direction to hit. I don't see that yet on this one. I figured out up was for the primary, but anyone else and it was just guessing.

D-Bowe is DA-MAN. He missed one pass but he was triple covered (I can't believe Brodie locked on to him, watched him down the field and threw into triple coverage. I almost pulled him and put Huard in for that one). I was averaging 35 ypc with him.

BWillie
08-12-2008, 05:55 PM
So whats the consensus? Does it suck like last years on the next gen systems or is it ok?

J Diddy
08-12-2008, 05:58 PM
So whats the consensus? Does it suck like last years on the next gen systems or is it ok?


I've only played 1 game thus far, will play more tonight.

I enjoyed what I have played, though.

Mr. Arrowhead
08-12-2008, 05:59 PM
the one thing i love about this game is it cuts down the cheesers for the most part. You cant really roll out of the pocket and throw a perfectly accurate pass across the other side of the field . If you throw across your body, then the pass will be very inaccurate.

PastorMikH
08-12-2008, 06:00 PM
OK, i bought the Wii version on the way home from work. Just got done playing Chiefs Vs. Chargers.

The run game seems incredibly too easy. LJ had 25 carries for 269 yards and 4 TD's.

I won the game 33-7.

Rivers threw 5 INT's hahahah



I was thinking mine was a bit too easy too. I figure I can change some settings though and fix that, but I want to learn the game and stomp some teams first.

J Diddy
08-12-2008, 06:02 PM
the one thing i love about this game is it cuts down the cheesers for the most part. You cant really roll out of the pocket and throw a perfectly accurate pass across the other side of the field . If you throw across your body, then the pass will be very inaccurate.

there is no need to roll at this point, i see steady pass rush but the pocket gives you about 3-5 seconds

Mecca
08-12-2008, 06:03 PM
This game used be so awesome. I just don't understand how it could have gotten this bad over the last few years...

Because we aren't their target audience, the madden nation demo is.

PastorMikH
08-12-2008, 06:48 PM
Even after passing in practice on the Wii, I'm still scratching my head a bit on WR selection. On the last one I played, each reciever was assigned a key before the snap and if that player was open on the play, you hit the assigned key when you threw. Now it almost seems like the buttons correspond to areas on the field rather than players.

Anyone else with a Wii that can help a nOOB?

dj56dt58
08-12-2008, 06:51 PM
if they would just clone ncaa 09 with nfl teams/stadiums and sub the college anthems for real nfl music instead of that shit music they put in the game, i would buy it

Deberg_1990
08-12-2008, 07:40 PM
Even after passing in practice on the Wii, I'm still scratching my head a bit on WR selection. On the last one I played, each reciever was assigned a key before the snap and if that player was open on the play, you hit the assigned key when you threw. Now it almost seems like the buttons correspond to areas on the field rather than players.

Anyone else with a Wii that can help a nOOB?

I have no idea Pastor? Did you sign up with EA online yet? If you do, we should hook up a game. A couple of noobs learning together. hahahah

My online ID there is: Deberg1990

PastorMikH
08-12-2008, 08:12 PM
I have no idea Pastor? Did you sign up with EA online yet? If you do, we should hook up a game. A couple of noobs learning together. hahahah

My online ID there is: Deberg1990



This is probably a stupid question, but it there any cost to signing up and playing online?

And if I were to get on (probably won't be now) I will be playing the Chiefs. You can be Denver or Okland.

:)

Deberg_1990
08-12-2008, 08:44 PM
This is probably a stupid question, but it there any cost to signing up and playing online?

And if I were to get on (probably won't be now) I will be playing the Chiefs. You can be Denver or Okland.

:)

Nope. ZERO cost, nadda, its free.

Denver or Oakland??? No way. Id be Pats or Cowboys. :)

PastorMikH
08-13-2008, 12:02 AM
OK, I've played several games now and honestly, this just seems too easy. I started this season and faced the bears in the preseason game. I held them to 1 (ONE) (UNO) yard of offense while I racked up 67 points.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-13-2008, 12:13 AM
Because we aren't their target audience, the madden nation demo is.

There are too many f*cking Hootie's in this world :shake:

Mecca
08-13-2008, 12:14 AM
There are too many f*cking Hootie's in this world :shake:

Sucks doesn't it?

I think from what I've played so far I'll be playing head coach quite a bit.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-13-2008, 12:15 AM
Sucks doesn't it?

I think from what I've played so far I'll be playing head coach quite a bit.

I flat out refuse to buy Madden. I don't even know if I'll get NCAA this year, and I love NCAA.

beach tribe
08-13-2008, 01:39 AM
I just played some madden online, and I enjoyed it, but that's probably because I stomped the donkeys 35-7. The gameplay still seems funny.

I replayed the ball coming out of croyle's hand on a deep arching pass, and it is laughable.

The positives are, Croyle's not that bad, and most of the cheesing has been cut out from what i've seen.

Still not good.

Fruit Ninja
08-13-2008, 02:13 AM
I just played some madden online, and I enjoyed it, but that's probably because I stomped the donkeys 35-7. The gameplay still seems funny.

I replayed the ball coming out of croyle's hand on a deep arching pass, and it is laughable.

The positives are, Croyle's not that bad, and most of the cheesing has been cut out from what i've seen.

Still not good.

Hmm.. i wonder if you can rent this yet? I am curious to see how the whole game is. Maybe i will rent it tomorrow, but they are probalby all out already. lol

MOhillbilly
08-13-2008, 07:15 AM
Hmm.. i wonder if you can rent this yet? I am curious to see how the whole game is. Maybe i will rent it tomorrow, but they are probalby all out already. lol
my buddy calls night before last and tells me to come over hed reserved madden. so i go over and its an hour of him bitching that its to hard. he doesnt like a challenge.

so ya you can rent it.

KCJohnny
08-13-2008, 07:50 AM
Even after passing in practice on the Wii, I'm still scratching my head a bit on WR selection. On the last one I played, each reciever was assigned a key before the snap and if that player was open on the play, you hit the assigned key when you threw. Now it almost seems like the buttons correspond to areas on the field rather than players.

Anyone else with a Wii that can help a nOOB?

My wife and kids just got me the new Madden 09. I put it in and am having the same problems as Pastor MikH. How do you select the receivers? I am used to playing on the Nintendo classic controllers for Game Cube. My first Wii Madden 09 ever I beat SD 48-0 but I felt like the game was doing most of the work. I just waved the numchuck and pressed A and Devard Darling was making Jerry Rice look like Johnny Morton.

HELP! How do select the receiver - not on the "called shot" feature, either. I kinda sorta figured that out, but if I want to throw a screen to LJ, how do I select him before waving the wand?

Deberg_1990
08-13-2008, 07:54 AM
My wife and kids just got me the new Madden 09. I put it in and am having the same problems as Pastor MikH. How do you select the receivers? I am used to playing on the Nintendo classic controllers for Game Cube. My first Wii Madden 09 ever I beat SD 48-0 but I felt like the game was doing most of the work. I just waved the numchuck and pressed A and Devard Darling was making Jerry Rice look like Johnny Morton.

HELP! How do select the receiver - not on the "called shot" feature, either. I kinda sorta figured that out, but if I want to throw a screen to LJ, how do I select him before waving the wand?

Ditto. i only played one game last night and i was wondering the same thing.

Its almost like they made this game too easy. Just wave the magic Wii stick and the game does the rest for you.

I hope there is a way to customize?

KCJohnny
08-13-2008, 08:14 AM
Ditto. i only played one game last night and i was wondering the same thing.

Its almost like they made this game too easy. Just wave the magic Wii stick and the game does the rest for you.

I hope there is a way to customize?

The problem is I built up some nice skills using the Nintendo type controller and now I am back on square one. I think you can adjust the level of difficulty (not sure how) but why would we do that when we are having to learn the hand/eye coord all over again?

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-13-2008, 08:26 AM
What difficulty are you guys playing on that it is too easy???

KCJohnny
08-13-2008, 08:59 AM
What difficulty are you guys playing on that it is too easy???

Whatever the default setting is. I'm fairly good at Madden on the Nintendo classic controllers. I may actually have thumped SD 48-0, but not when I can barely manipulate the numchuck thingy.

Demonpenz
08-13-2008, 09:19 AM
I don't like it on WII. It seems like you just wave nunchuck around and it picks your open receiver for you

crazycoffey
08-13-2008, 09:35 AM
I hadn't bought madden for four or five years now, but since I just got a PS3 I was thinking of getting it in a few weeks/months. Guess my "drinking buddy" read my mind, last night I decided to try cooking her a dinner and she was doing some house cleaning, she sat a piece of paper on the table behind me, asking me to look at it and help her understand it.

When I picked it up, Madden was on the table underneath. WARPATH, GET YOUR ASS OVER HERE, bring a sixer and lets play this shizznet

PastorMikH
08-13-2008, 09:55 AM
What difficulty are you guys playing on that it is too easy???



I moved mine from pro to all pro and was still wiping things up. I jumped it all the way up to all madden but haven't played in that mode yet. I am also going to tinker with the AI settings and see if I can't make the computer a little tougher to play against. I thought I heard you can turn the "All Play" off but I haven't found it yet.

I don't like losing but at the same time after a while it gets pretty boring holding the opponent to 3 and outs while I go 80 yards in 1-2 plays for a TD.


As for the passing, after a lot of reading on the net, it seems the wii selects the "Most Open" WR for you. Now, I was able to do some selecting with the directional buttons on the wii remote but they didn't seem consistent and seemed more to throw to certain areas of the field instead of WRs. On the old version I rented, a button corresponded with a reciever before the snap and wherever that wr went, you could hit that button and throw. Now if the wr I want runs a down an in pattern, he starts off with the left button, but then when he starts across the field the buttons change.

Overall, I like the game on the wii, I just wish it were a bit more challenging and better reciever selection.

Pestilence
08-13-2008, 09:57 AM
I only got to play around with it a little bit last night. I ran through the Madden IQ test and all I can say is....that I suck at pass defense. Good God I was horrible. lol So I guess according to them I'm an All-Pro on everything except pass defense.

If I was EA I would have done the Madden IQ thing a little different. Just break it down to Offense and Defense. On Offense you start off at the opponents 40 yard line and you have to score a TD to move to the next level. Each level they just move you back 20 yards. If you can't score on that difficulty...then that's the difficulty you're on. Defense is the same thing except you have to hold them from scoring.

From what I saw (graphics wise) playing one of the Madden Moments (GB vs. Den) the game looks pretty good. It's a little choppy in areas and the animations are alright. The gameplay so far is just at an ok. I couldn't get into the game that much and I because of only playing the Madden Moment...I didn't get to play defense. I'm going to start up a Chiefs franchise this weekend.

Deberg_1990
08-13-2008, 10:00 AM
I moved mine from pro to all pro and was still wiping things up. I jumped it all the way up to all madden but haven't played in that mode yet. I am also going to tinker with the AI settings and see if I can't make the computer a little tougher to play against. I thought I heard you can turn the "All Play" off but I haven't found it yet.

I don't like losing but at the same time after a while it gets pretty boring holding the opponent to 3 and outs while I go 80 yards in 1-2 plays for a TD.


As for the passing, after a lot of reading on the net, it seems the wii selects the "Most Open" WR for you. Now, I was able to do some selecting with the directional buttons on the wii remote but they didn't seem consistent and seemed more to throw to certain areas of the field instead of WRs. On the old version I rented, a button corresponded with a reciever before the snap and wherever that wr went, you could hit that button and throw. Now if the wr I want runs a down an in pattern, he starts off with the left button, but then when he starts across the field the buttons change.

Overall, I like the game on the wii, I just wish it were a bit more challenging and better reciever selection.

Have you tried the "Call Your Shots" yet?

Pestilence
08-13-2008, 11:22 AM
Anyone know if a roster update has been put out?

The Bad Guy
08-13-2008, 12:03 PM
Anyone know if a roster update has been put out?

It has. It's not great, but it's a start.

Pestilence
08-13-2008, 12:22 PM
It has. It's not great, but it's a start.

Have they fixed any of the retarded shit that's on the Chiefs roster?

Like Barry Richardson being a LT and Herb Taylor being a RG?
Pat Thomas being a LOLB and not a MLB?
Connar Barth not on the team?
Mike Cox at FB?

The Bad Guy
08-13-2008, 12:31 PM
Have they fixed any of the retarded shit that's on the Chiefs roster?

Like Barry Richardson being a LT and Herb Taylor being a RG?
Pat Thomas being a LOLB and not a MLB?
Connar Barth not on the team?
Mike Cox at FB?

I think that's minor stuff. You can fix Herb and Barry yourself.

But i'm not shocked they don't have the 2nd kicker and the undrafted rookie FB in the game.

Pestilence
08-13-2008, 12:39 PM
I think that's minor stuff. You can fix Herb and Barry yourself.

But i'm not shocked they don't have the 2nd kicker and the undrafted rookie FB in the game.

Are you able to move people's positions around again? In last years game you weren't able too.

J Diddy
08-13-2008, 12:43 PM
Have they fixed any of the retarded shit that's on the Chiefs roster?

Like Barry Richardson being a LT and Herb Taylor being a RG?
Pat Thomas being a LOLB and not a MLB?
Connar Barth not on the team?
Mike Cox at FB?

i doubt there is any new updates until after roster is set

Ultra Peanut
08-13-2008, 12:53 PM
Got this from Gamefly the DAY AFTER RELEASE, bitches.

PastorMikH
08-13-2008, 01:14 PM
Have you tried the "Call Your Shots" yet?



Yeah, but from what I've found so far, that only makes 1 guy a for sure option. I haven't found a way to use it without setting it up every play too, which gets old.

J Diddy
08-13-2008, 01:36 PM
Got this from Gamefly the DAY AFTER RELEASE, bitches.

bought it the day of release

bitches?
:shrug:

beach tribe
08-13-2008, 03:25 PM
bought it the day of release

bitches?
:shrug:

Me too. There were about 30 on the shelf at Best Buy.

All that pre-order crap cracks me up. I have never seen madden sell out to where you couldn't find it.

J Diddy
08-13-2008, 03:30 PM
Me too. There were about 30 on the shelf at Best Buy.

All that pre-order crap cracks me up. I have never seen madden sell out to where you couldn't find it.



Yeah I went in about 8 traded a bunch of old ones and oblivion in and got it for $40, came back at midnight and picked it up

I still don't know if I like it though

passing is really different and I don't like not being able to change the camera angles when playing online.

The Bad Guy
08-13-2008, 03:46 PM
I like the game.

Re-started my franchise, and lost 13-7 to the Pats on All-Madden.

Pestilence
08-13-2008, 04:06 PM
I like the game.

Re-started my franchise, and lost 13-7 to the Pats on All-Madden.

Are you the Chiefs? If you are....did you make any significant roster changes?

The Bad Guy
08-13-2008, 04:22 PM
Are you the Chiefs? If you are....did you make any significant roster changes?

I am the Chiefs.

No, I did not make any changes.

Mecca
08-13-2008, 04:26 PM
I've been playing head coach.....if you try to do it with the Chiefs it's very difficult I'll say that much...

TrickyNicky
08-13-2008, 06:19 PM
Just rented it for 360. Played a game against my brother on All-Madden level. He was the Chiefs, I was the Vikes. 8 picks total, 5 for me, 3 for him. I won 17-14 in OT.

This is the first Madden I've played since 08 on Wii, which plays like two different games. I haven't decided if I like the new layout or not. Herm looks like Herm and they have LJ's moves down really well.

Deberg_1990
08-13-2008, 07:19 PM
I've been playing head coach.....if you try to do it with the Chiefs it's very difficult I'll say that much...


Of course it is. Just who do you think you are? Carl Peterson?

Mecca
08-13-2008, 07:21 PM
Of course it is. Just who do you think you are? Carl Peterson?

LOL, the playbook is weak and the roster talent is weak.....it's pretty hard.

Deberg_1990
08-13-2008, 07:30 PM
the playbook is weak and the roster talent is weak


Imagine that??

Mecca
08-13-2008, 07:36 PM
Imagine that??

Pretty much true to life eh?

Herms personality is funny to it's something like "superstar" what a nice way to say he has an ego problem.

Ultra Peanut
08-13-2008, 07:47 PM
bought it the day of release

bitches?
:shrug:Haha. You paid $60 for Madden.

J Diddy
08-13-2008, 10:02 PM
Haha. You paid $60 for Madden.

nope paid $40 and a whole bunch of non paid video games

Mr. Flopnuts
08-13-2008, 10:07 PM
Haha. You paid $60 for Madden.

I paid $65 with tax. I'm pretty happy with it. It's the best Madden in my eyes in the last few years. A graphics upgrade, smoother playability, and Cris Collinsworth in the booth breaking down plays. I think it's pretty bad ass. First time in a long time too. Course, I don't play online at all. That got old for me back in 2004.

J Diddy
08-13-2008, 10:17 PM
I paid $65 with tax. I'm pretty happy with it. It's the best Madden in my eyes in the last few years. A graphics upgrade, smoother playability, and Cris Collinsworth in the booth breaking down plays. I think it's pretty bad ass. First time in a long time too. Course, I don't play online at all. That got old for me back in 2004.


It's perfect online. There is no cheese from what I've seen. You throw deep twice in a row you get picked. you run to the right and throw to the left you get picked you scramble everytime you get sacked

btw I hate colinsworth and to me that is the weak point he's so dry

Mr. Flopnuts
08-13-2008, 10:30 PM
It's perfect online. There is no cheese from what I've seen. You throw deep twice in a row you get picked. you run to the right and throw to the left you get picked you scramble everytime you get sacked

btw I hate colinsworth and to me that is the weak point he's so dry

If the cheese dick shit has been eliminated I will be down to get online again. It's not like it costs anything with PS3. :p

J Diddy
08-13-2008, 10:54 PM
If the cheese dick shit has been eliminated I will be down to get online again. It's not like it costs anything with PS3. :p


I'm telling you it's a different game, you try that bs over the top outrun the cb everytime you're gonna throw pick after pick

Fruit Ninja
08-13-2008, 11:15 PM
I went to the blockbuster earlier tried to give it a rental. All out of PS3 and 360. I tried. They did try to sell me a brand new copy. lol I was like, i got 10 bucks, you wanna loan me 50? didnt work.

PastorMikH
08-14-2008, 01:08 AM
OK Wii users, here's what you gotta do...

TURN OFF ALL PLAY!!!

When you are going into a game, and at the screen where you have the home and away teams where you put your remote on the side you want to play, down at the bottom it has [ 1 ALL-PLAY ] you will also see the all play logo on the controler indicator over the team you want to play. Turn the All-Play off by hitting the 1 button on the controler (the emblem will disappear from the controler indicator).


On passing, I can now choose the WR I want by using the arrow pad or A. (You can hit the B button when everyone is at the line of scrimmage to see the routes. Below each reciever will be which button needs to be pushed to pass to that wr irrigardless of coverage, being open, where he is on the field and so on.


Hope this helps.

J Diddy
08-14-2008, 01:11 AM
OK Wii users, here's what you gotta do...

TURN OFF ALL PLAY!!!

When you are going into a game, and at the screen where you have the home and away teams where you put your remote on the side you want to play, down at the bottom it has [ 1 ALL-PLAY ] you will also see the all play logo on the controler indicator over the team you want to play. Turn the All-Play off by hitting the 1 button on the controler (the emblem will disappear from the controler indicator).


On passing, I can now choose the WR I want by using the arrow pad or A. (You can hit the B button when everyone is at the line of scrimmage to see the routes. Below each reciever will be which button needs to be pushed to pass to that wr irrigardless of coverage, being open, where he is on the field and so on.


Hope this helps.

If only I still had my wii

PastorMikH
08-14-2008, 01:41 AM
OK, I've played several games now and honestly, this just seems too easy. I started this season and faced the bears in the preseason game. I held them to 1 (ONE) (UNO) yard of offense while I racked up 67 points.



Now that the All Play feature is turned off, I'm playing the fish for the third preseason game. Things are kinda looking like a team who has Mike Solari as the OC and Greg Robinson as the DC and Gunther as HC on the sidelines sniffing an ammonia capsule.


I creamed them the first time I played them, this time it is quite a battle. I'll have to finish the game tommorow.

J Diddy
08-14-2008, 01:46 AM
Now that the All Play feature is turned off, I'm playing the fish for the third preseason game. Things are kinda looking like a team who has Mike Solari as the OC and Greg Robinson as the DC and Gunther as HC on the sidelines sniffing an ammonia capsule.


I creamed them the first time I played them, this time it is quite a battle. I'll have to finish the game tommorow.
that's pretty rough

okcchief
08-14-2008, 02:17 AM
It's not a perfect game but it's definately the best madden. You really have to grind a way to be successful and the deep ball is much harder to complete. I have had a blast playing it but I need to step up to all madden as I'm 7-0 with the Chiefs. I'm winning ugly as hell though. My biggest margin of victory is 14. Defense is playing kill. If only they were really this good. Just took down Farve and the Jets in a close one.

I have only played two games online so far but the cheese factor is definately reduced signifgantly. I think it's a far better game than NCAA even though I kind of like that too and decided to keep it. I'm playing an online league with some friends soon with a fantasy draft. I expect that to be a blast.

Go cyber Chiefs!

Fried Meat Ball!
08-14-2008, 06:12 AM
I've been playing head coach.....if you try to do it with the Chiefs it's very difficult I'll say that much...

I started with the Chiefs and was 10-6 in my first season and in the playoffs.

First round loss by 1 point to the Chargers. In Season 2 training camp now.

Lzen
08-14-2008, 07:49 AM
OK, i bought the Wii version on the way home from work. Just got done playing Chiefs Vs. Chargers.

The run game seems incredibly too easy. LJ had 25 carries for 269 yards and 4 TD's.

I won the game 33-7.

Rivers threw 5 INT's hahahah

What level/AI settings?

Lzen
08-14-2008, 08:13 AM
Here's a review...

I'm one of the most hardcore franchise guys, and I love any simulation game. The first Head Coach had the right idea, but it was executed horribly. The new Head Coach is nothing like it, so get those thoughts out of your head. In this thread, I'll try to tell you guys why you should buy the Collector's Edition of Madden, or buy only the standalone game if you solely buy Madden for franchise.

When it comes to Free Agency, Madden has a horrible way of doing things. Up the money and you get anybody you want, but it never really comes back to bite you. In Head Coach, there is sort of an auction system on players. A pop up screen will come up, and there will be a variety of teams bidding on the player. There is 60 seconds on the clock, and teams keep raising the bid. When the price gets too high for a certain team, they will drop out, which you can visually see. The last team that remains in the bidding gets to negotiate a contract with the Free Agent, which is relatively easy. You choose from already given packages, all with given amounts of incentives and years and salaries, etc. That's how free agents are signed. Also, something that ties in with this is salary cap. Everybody that plays Madden knows the salary cap is atrocious. To keep it simple, the salary in this game is realistic. You sign 10 guys in free agency, and you can say hello to salary cap hell.

Another thing in Madden that needs a ton of work is trading. This is something that the Head Coach team took a lot of time to work on. Trades with player for player in the NFL are very rare, and they will be in this game also. You can put as many players as you want on the trading block, and the computer won't ask for any player not on the block. They'll offer you a variety of packages and you can see which one you want. That also goes for trading in the draft and picking a player that you want to trade for. The cpu will give you all the options, you can pick what you want to give up.

Another thing that is small in Madden, but needed work is the rookie contract negotiations. Select the rookie, and the contract is just there. That's the best contract pretty much. But in Head Coach, rookie contracts are hard to negotiate. You once again have packages, with different incentives, etc. These talks are much harder than free agency, and you will want to get them done to get your rookie into camp. You can cave in to their demands, or the contract negotiations can go on for the whole season. But more on getting guys into camp later...

The scouting in Madden is horrible also. It barely works lol. In Head Coach, there is a Senior Bowl, and your staff determines the amount of players/info you can scout. There are individual workouts and a combine, and each player gets graded. It's a pretty robust system which is hard to explain, so you'll have to experience it yourself. Trust me when I say though, that it's better than Madden's scouting.

The draft itself is a biggy. In Madden, it's bland and the overalls are bad and teams have bad AI. In Head Coach, teams draft for actual needs and trade up/down when necessary. There are busts and gems, so scouting is important. There are 21,000 pre-created rookies and they have their own stories and ratings, etc. Schefter will give you news about the draft and the college football season as you go through your season, and he will also give analysis of some of the picks made. There are mock drafts and everything else, everything you've wanted your Madden draft to be.

One of the great things about Head Coach is the rating system. It's not broken in Madden, but a lot of things don't matter and the progression is horrible. In Head Coach, players all have hard-coded potential for everything, which can turn people off. The thing is, players will only reach that potential with the right coaching, production, and systems. Ratings are dynamic and change depending on all of those things, so Ronde Barber might be bad in a man scheme, but he'll be great in the Tampa 2. Things like that matter for both you and the cpu on who you draft, sign, and trade for.

A nice thing that matters in Head Coach is playbooks. The playbooks are a big part to any coach's job, so they are in the game too. You can create your playbook (up to 200 O and 200 D plays) with your own custom plays and plays from other coach's books. You can also create plays on the fly in games. You can hire other team's coaches and coaches from the college ranks will come into the NFL and if you sign them, you can take plays from their playbook and add it to your own. The option, the wishbone, etc. Another realistic but often unnoticed thing is that players have to learn the playbooks. Each player has a learning rating that determines how quickly they can learn the plays. This is why you get guys into camp, if they don't know the plays they won't execute. Each player can have any play unlearned, learned, or mastered. You learn plays by using them in-game and also in training camp/practice.

Restricted Free Agents are realistic also, thought I'd throw that in there.

In game, you can call the plays, but not control the players. It seems as though the CPU plays smarter than in Madden, and the results are more realistic. Overthrows, underthrows, big plays, negative gains, everything else. The graphics aren't as good as Madden's but the way it plays outweighs the not-amazing graphics.

In practice. you can scheme to stop players or practice certain things. Depending on the level of your coaches, you get a certain amount of gamebreaking type plays come game day. Maybe I get 4 with Mike Martz or something. If I practiced the blitz, then I can call that blitz 4 times on game day and my team gets a huge stat boost for that play. This doesn't mean automatic success, but your chances improve.

The main downers of the game are that the graphics are weak, which doesn't really matter because coaching the game is a small part of the game. You can't control the players which ticks some people, but a lot of people like scheming and the x's and o's so controlling the players isn't a problem.

Any more questions about the game, ask and I'll do my best to answer them. I don't have the game, but I've read virtually everything put out on the game, listened to the podcasts, read all the Logic, gameplay, and lead producer Q&A's, and read all of the consumer impressions.

That sounds pretty bad ass. If only 2K could combine their gameplay with HC's franchise stuff.........:(

TRR
08-14-2008, 10:00 AM
If the cheese dick shit has been eliminated I will be down to get online again. It's not like it costs anything with PS3. :p

It only takes time. It will take about a month before Madden players will find out how to "cheese" the game, and do it online. There are guys that just sit in practice mode off line, and run play after to play until they get a glitch, or find out it's an uncoverable play...

It will just take time.

J Diddy
08-14-2008, 10:05 AM
It's not a perfect game but it's definately the best madden. You really have to grind a way to be successful and the deep ball is much harder to complete. I have had a blast playing it but I need to step up to all madden as I'm 7-0 with the Chiefs. I'm winning ugly as hell though. My biggest margin of victory is 14. Defense is playing kill. If only they were really this good. Just took down Farve and the Jets in a close one.

I have only played two games online so far but the cheese factor is definately reduced signifgantly. I think it's a far better game than NCAA even though I kind of like that too and decided to keep it. I'm playing an online league with some friends soon with a fantasy draft. I expect that to be a blast.

Go cyber Chiefs!

I dare not use the chiefs online
not when everybodys coming at me with the pats or chargers

The only complaint i've got is the way you have to play the game takes up more time. 5 minute quarters is too short imo.

Deberg_1990
08-14-2008, 10:46 AM
OK Wii users, here's what you gotta do...

TURN OFF ALL PLAY!!!

When you are going into a game, and at the screen where you have the home and away teams where you put your remote on the side you want to play, down at the bottom it has [ 1 ALL-PLAY ] you will also see the all play logo on the controler indicator over the team you want to play. Turn the All-Play off by hitting the 1 button on the controler (the emblem will disappear from the controler indicator).


On passing, I can now choose the WR I want by using the arrow pad or A. (You can hit the B button when everyone is at the line of scrimmage to see the routes. Below each reciever will be which button needs to be pushed to pass to that wr irrigardless of coverage, being open, where he is on the field and so on.


Hope this helps.


Yea, i figured that out last night as well. I also bumped up the difficulty level to "All-Pro"

I started a Chiefs franchise and played the Bears in preseason. Noticable difference. I won 14-10 and the run game was harder and more realistic.

okcchief
08-14-2008, 12:07 PM
I dare not use the chiefs online
not when everybodys coming at me with the pats or chargers

The only complaint i've got is the way you have to play the game takes up more time. 5 minute quarters is too short imo.

I haven't used them online just in my offline franchise. I will use them in the league with the fantasy draft though :)

I agree the five minute quarters are too short. They should probably be more like 7-8 minute quarters.

Pestilence
08-14-2008, 12:28 PM
Does anyone use their Madden IQ as the game difficulty?

TrickyNicky
08-14-2008, 01:30 PM
Stupid question, but where do I download the up-to-date rosters online?

Braincase
08-14-2008, 01:39 PM
OK Wii users, here's what you gotta do...

TURN OFF ALL PLAY!!!

When you are going into a game, and at the screen where you have the home and away teams where you put your remote on the side you want to play, down at the bottom it has [ 1 ALL-PLAY ] you will also see the all play logo on the controler indicator over the team you want to play. Turn the All-Play off by hitting the 1 button on the controler (the emblem will disappear from the controler indicator).


On passing, I can now choose the WR I want by using the arrow pad or A. (You can hit the B button when everyone is at the line of scrimmage to see the routes. Below each reciever will be which button needs to be pushed to pass to that wr irrigardless of coverage, being open, where he is on the field and so on.


Hope this helps.

Thanks Pastor... I picked it up at Target yesterday, but I need to get through some work stuff before I can kill half a day playing that thing.

PastorMikH
08-14-2008, 02:19 PM
Yea, i figured that out last night as well.



:cuss:

Well, THANKS FOR POSTING IT!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT!!!!!!!!


Geeeeesh, I could have been playing it last night instead of trying to figure out how to get rid of the all play.

:)

PastorMikH
08-14-2008, 03:50 PM
Here's an interesting message I keep getting on scoring summaries, "We think you need to either use basic plays or Madden picks"

Why? Am I scoring too many TDs too quickly?LOL



Killed me when I saw that for the 4th time after a first down run by Kolby Smith for 75 yards and a TD from a play that I called from the full playbook.

Mr. Flopnuts
08-14-2008, 04:16 PM
Does anyone use their Madden IQ as the game difficulty?

I do, and I've noticed an adjustment from game to game. I'm excited to go home and play tonight. It's been a long time since I've felt that way about Madden.

Jenson71
08-14-2008, 04:49 PM
Stupid question, but where do I download the up-to-date rosters online?

What system? For PS3, you have to first go to an online game and it should just automatically ask you.

Fruit Ninja
08-14-2008, 05:16 PM
Does anyone use their Madden IQ as the game difficulty?

I would hope not. That Madden IQ was implemented wrong. That test doesnt prove a freaking thing. Having a perfect score in that does not mean your good at the game. It just means you can hit the button when it tells you to.

beach tribe
08-14-2008, 05:41 PM
So are we going to start an online season? I GOT KC!!

Fruit Ninja
08-14-2008, 05:44 PM
my buddy calls night before last and tells me to come over hed reserved madden. so i go over and its an hour of him bitching that its to hard. he doesnt like a challenge.

so ya you can rent it.

Challenging sports games dont bother me. Especially in football. I rather it be harder then easier. People can vouch for the kind of time i can put in if i am really enjoying a football game. lol

All rented out here. Block busters are closing down left and right. lol All we have is 1 left. down from 3.