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Count Alex's Losses
08-03-2008, 12:02 AM
http://kan.scout.com/2/774851.html

This will all sound completely sappy. You might call it overblown, unrealistic and a rush to judgment. By the end of this column, some of you may regard me a complete homer with no grounded view of Brodie Croyle.

But man, viewing Brodie Croyle (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698850) was truly enjoyable Saturday night in River Falls, Wisconsin. I can’t remember the last time I’ve had more fun watching someone play quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs.

Put it this way – Croyle attempted 12 passes Saturday during KC’s Family Fun Night extravaganza. Eleven of those passes hit a receiver in the hands.

•••

It started simply enough, a casual bootleg play culminating in a dart into the hands of wide receiver Devard Darling (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3263025). Then Croyle fired an absolute rocket over the middle of the field to his favorite target, Dwayne Bowe (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698848), and right then is where the magic started.

On his next pass, the kid from Alabama stood tall in the face of pressure and thumped a short throw over the middle to his tight end, Tony Gonzalez (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698854). It was only good for about five yards, but the pass was so on target, thrown in just the right place, no one but Gonzalez was coming up with it. No linebacker in Wisconsin had a prayer of touching the ball as it zipped from quarterback to receiver.

The next throw was innocent, a mere dumpoff in the left flat to fullback Mike Cox (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3074394). But here’s what’s important – Brodie Croyle had time. There were receivers down the field, perhaps an opportunity to squeeze the ball into a tight hole. But the man in the yellow jersey simply flicked the ball shortly, accurately, and as a head coach once said, matriculated the ball down the field.

Then another rocket sizzled into the Wisconsin sky – an 18-yard pass to Bowe that couldn’t have been thrown more perfectly. Next, a seemingly nondescript five-yard completion to Maurice Price, but here’s the kicker – the scrawny guy wearing #12 threw the ball into near-perfect coverage, but placed it, again, where only his receiver could catch it.

After another garden-variety dumpoff to his tight end, the Brodie Croyle Express was derailed, if only for a brief moment. After all, it’s just not smart quarterbacking to throw into the teeth of a Cover Two zone when the safety is flying over with a bead on your receiver.

But the Rainbow City boy wasn’t down for long, coming right back with a quick sideline pass to Bowe (who was tackled only because an unidentified defensive back held on for dear life) before smoothly slipping a middle screen pass to running back Larry Johnson between thundering defensive linemen .

And then, well, what happened next can only be described as a receiver bailing out his quarterback. The third-round pick with two surgically-repaired knees was off balance and in no position to throw an accurate pass. Regardless, he loaded another shot and blasted it 30 yards down the left sideline, underthrowing Dwayne Bowe, who simply contorted his body in the most unnatural way possible to pluck the ball out of the air before tapping both feet down.

•••

That was 10 completions for Brodie Croyle. The 11th, right as the sun set, was perhaps the most impressive of all, however.

It was no 30-yard rocket, nor a graceful, arcing bomb. It wasn’t even a first down, just another short pass in the flat to a dumpy little fullback.

But what was remarkable about the last throw of the night attempted by the unquestioned starting quarterback of the Kansas City Chiefs, was the soft, pillowy trajectory it traced through the fading light. Over offensive linemen, beyond the outstretched hands of a defensive end, well in front of closing defensive backs and right into the hands of Mike Cox.

It was a throw a year ago that Brodie Croyle might not have completed, a throw that might have been fired impatiently at a low angle, a throw that might have ricocheted off a helmet and into the hands of a linebacker. But not tonight. On this cool, cloudy River Falls evening, in front of a few hundred Chiefs fans, no one was catching that ball except the intended receiver.

•••

When all the other big-name Chiefs had finished signing autographs, Brodie Croyle slowly walked off the practice field, his helmet in one hand, his head down. He was headed for the locker room. A voice rang out.

“Brodie!”

It was a Chiefs fan, clamoring for an autograph. Still, Croyle kept walking. But another call went up, and then two more, and then a third, a fourth, a dozen. The calls became a chant. Scores of Chiefs fans were standing behind a yellow rope, chanting Brodie Croyle’s name as if he was the biggest rock star they had ever seen.

“BRODIE! BRODIE! BRODIE! BRODIE! BRODIE!”

Croyle turned, smiled, and headed back toward the fans. No one cared that he hadn’t won an NFL game. No one remembered the horrible preseason that landed him on the bench or the ghastly interceptions he threw at the end of the season.

Nope, they just wanted the autograph of their starting quarterback, the one who had just completed darn near every pass he threw, the one actually drafted by their team for the first time in decades. These fans were so gaga for Brodie Croyle, for a brief second it appeared he could have run for President against Barack Obama and John McCain and won the state of Wisconsin.

As fireworks soared in the sky and he signed, yes, it was only one practice, but it sure felt like Chiefs fans were accepting Brodie Croyle as their own. Maybe that will all change in two weeks and boos will rain down at Arrowhead after interceptions, but for a few hours on August 2, 2008, at Ramer Field in River Falls, Wisconsin, it was just plain fun watching a Chiefs quarterback sling the ball around.

Chief Chief
08-03-2008, 12:24 AM
http://kan.scout.com/2/774851.html

This will all sound completely sappy. You might call it overblown, unrealistic and a rush to judgment. By the end of this column, some of you may regard me a complete homer with no grounded view of Brodie Croyle.


As a 'Bama boy might have said:

"Completely sappy is as complete homer does."

Smed1065
08-03-2008, 12:42 AM
http://kan.scout.com/2/774851.html



Wow, earlier in the week he was sucking and now he is the savior.

(Must keep interest to fleece more subscribers. Hum. How do we do that at WPI?
Generate interest for the team after another injury to the reason to buy tickets or subscribe this year.)

PS. Nicki predicted the injuries last week.

Same motive as every year for WPI.

JuicesFlowing
08-03-2008, 07:16 AM
That was pretty amusing. If he wrote that after an actual NFL game, it might be okay ... but practice? He's overdoing it just a bit.

Skip Towne
08-03-2008, 07:34 AM
I like Kelli better.

Chiefnj2
08-03-2008, 08:26 AM
Clayton,

How many passes were over 10 yards?

KCJohnny
08-03-2008, 08:30 AM
You can thank Chan Gailey.
We have grownups this year building the O and selecting plays.
I rather like the prospect of a real NFL FB who can catch...

The Bad Guy
08-03-2008, 08:59 AM
What a suckass article.

jAZ
08-03-2008, 09:22 AM
Put it this way – Croyle attempted 12 passes Saturday during KC’s Family Fun Night extravaganza. Eleven of those passes hit a receiver in the hands.


...the Brodie Croyle Express was derailed, if only for a brief moment. After all, it’s just not smart quarterbacking to throw into the teeth of a Cover Two zone when the safety is flying over with a bead on your receiver.

...And then, well, what happened next can only be described as a receiver bailing out his quarterback. ... he ... blasted it 30 yards down the left sideline, underthrowing Dwayne Bowe

Math much?

Deberg_1990
08-03-2008, 09:31 AM
Good lord,

IM so impressed that Croyle won the training camp championship.

JuicesFlowing
08-03-2008, 09:46 AM
This article is so over-the-top, it's sad.

DeezNutz
08-03-2008, 09:49 AM
NFL quarterback looks great in practice when not allowed to be hit. Follow-up at 5:00.

Seriously, what else would you expect? Ever watch batting practice before a ML game? Ever shoot baskets in an empty gym with a *really* talented basketball player? Same thing here. Talented athletes look amazing when they're under zero pressure.

Buehler445
08-03-2008, 10:07 AM
That was pretty amusing. If he wrote that after an actual NFL game, it might be okay ... but practice? He's overdoing it just a bit.

Moreover, it is just 10 passes. In practice.

blueballs
08-03-2008, 10:10 AM
was the soft, pillowy trajectory it traced through the fading light

Mr. Arrowhead
08-03-2008, 10:11 AM
Brodie cant win, if he looked shitty in practice, you all be screaming for his head, but if he looks great in practice, you guys just say who gives a shit, its practice.

blueballs
08-03-2008, 10:16 AM
the responses arent so much about Brodie

Deberg_1990
08-03-2008, 10:19 AM
Brodie cant win, if he looked shitty in practice, you all be screaming for his head, but if he looks great in practice, you guys just say who gives a shit, its practice.


No, its great that Brodie is looking good. Its the fact that the writer cannot be ojective when he writes. He has to slobber all over everyones knob whenever they perform basic football plays.

Mr. Arrowhead
08-03-2008, 10:20 AM
No, its great that Brodie is looking good. Its the fact that the writer cannot be ojective when he writes. He has to slobber all over everyones knob whenever they perform basic football plays.
o ok, and its funny the writer was talking so much shit last year on brodie

Hydrae
08-03-2008, 10:20 AM
Personally I think this is one of the better articles Clayton has ever written. It is not about how great the Chiefs are going to be this year, it is simply about the maturing of our young QB. It is about the dreams that can arise from a magical evening watching men compete for the right to be called Kansas City Chiefs. This is about the emergence of a confident young man on the threshold of becoming a solid starting quaterback in the NFL.

Short Leash Hootie
08-03-2008, 10:29 AM
this just worries me about our defense

KCUnited
08-03-2008, 10:30 AM
I believe it. Our defense is known for making no name QBs look like pro bowlers.

Short Leash Hootie
08-03-2008, 10:35 AM
What a suckass article.

this is by far my least favorite person on this site...

he's so bitter about his writing career not working out that it is borderline sickening

The Bad Guy
08-03-2008, 10:40 AM
this is by far my least favorite person on this site...

he's so bitter about his writing career not working out that it is borderline sickening

I'm honored that a lying, welching dickbag like you dislikes me. I know I'm doing my job on this site then.

Please tell me why this was a good article. I've given GoChiefs credit for articles he's written well in the past, this wasn't one of them.

For your info though, I make twice as much money as I did as a writer in my current profession and I have summers off.

Besides likely being a bus boy, and complete internet message board liar, what exactly do you do?

My writing career didn't work because I chose to CHANGE professions because the pay sucked, the hours sucked, and I wasn't having any fun.

You're right though. I really wish I was 27, living at home, and writing for a fan publication.

Kindly **** off.

The Bad Guy
08-03-2008, 10:41 AM
No, its great that Brodie is looking good. Its the fact that the writer cannot be ojective when he writes. He has to slobber all over everyones knob whenever they perform basic football plays.

Spot on.

You must be just jealous too that a writing career didn't work out. [/hootie].

Short Leash Hootie
08-03-2008, 10:44 AM
I'm honored that a lying, welching dickbag like you dislikes me. I know I'm doing my job on this site then.

Please tell me why this was a good article. I've given GoChiefs credit for articles he's written well in the past, this wasn't one of them.

For your info though, I make twice as much money as I did as a writer in my current profession and I have summers off.

Besides likely being a bus boy, and complete internet message board liar, what exactly do you do?

My writing career didn't work because I chose to CHANGE professions because the pay sucked, the hours sucked, and I wasn't having any fun.

You're right though. I really wish I was 27, living at home, and writing for a fan publication.

Kindly **** off.

I could careless about all of that shit...

All I know is, every ****ing time GoChiefs posts something you have to put in your worthless 2 cents about how much he sucks and blah blah blah...

Get over it, dude...

Short Leash Hootie
08-03-2008, 10:45 AM
I don't know if the people on this site are more obsessed with hating Whitlock, Clayton or Carl Peterson...it's a toss-up, really...(which is sad)

blueballs
08-03-2008, 10:46 AM
i use to write prescriptions
and that failed

The Bad Guy
08-03-2008, 10:47 AM
I could careless about all of that shit...

All I know is, every ****ing time GoChiefs posts something you have to put in your worthless 2 cents about how much he sucks and blah blah blah...

Get over it, dude...

Nice rebuttal.

I've given him credit for articles that were well written in the past again moron.

The article sucked.

Maybe when you're both 35 you can move out of your parents houses together and get a place.

The Bad Guy
08-03-2008, 10:47 AM
I don't know if the people on this site are more obsessed with hating Whitlock, Clayton or Carl Peterson...it's a toss-up, really...(which is sad)

I love Whitlock.

You can add your name to the list too if you'd like.

Short Leash Hootie
08-03-2008, 10:48 AM
Maybe when you're both 35 you can move out of your parents houses together and get a place.

One can dream...

Short Leash Hootie
08-03-2008, 10:50 AM
I love Whitlock.

You can add your name to the list too if you'd like.
No, I don't dig around for attention like Clayton...I hardly really even post...I just love seeing you snipe around all of his threads and tell him how much he sucks at writing, etc...

You're pathetic, and it makes me laugh when I see it...no big deal.

The Bad Guy
08-03-2008, 11:07 AM
No, I don't dig around for attention like Clayton...I hardly really even post...I just love seeing you snipe around all of his threads and tell him how much he sucks at writing, etc...

You're pathetic, and it makes me laugh when I see it...no big deal.

You don't dig around for attention???

You really are a dillusional liar.

I don't think he sucks at writing. I think some of his columns suck. Maybe when mom finishes changing your sheets today, she can explain the difference to you.

Since your football takes are pretty much wrong 100% of the time, I'll take your pathetic claim as flattery, Mrs. Huard.

Count Alex's Losses
08-03-2008, 11:10 AM
Personally I think this is one of the better articles Clayton has ever written. It is not about how great the Chiefs are going to be this year, it is simply about the maturing of our young QB. It is about the dreams that can arise from a magical evening watching men compete for the right to be called Kansas City Chiefs. This is about the emergence of a confident young man on the threshold of becoming a solid starting quaterback in the NFL.

Amen.

BRODIE! BRODIE! BRODIE!

Short Leash Hootie
08-03-2008, 11:14 AM
You don't dig around for attention???

You really are a dillusional liar.

I don't think he sucks at writing. I think some of his columns suck. Maybe when mom finishes changing your sheets today, she can explain the difference to you.

Since your football takes are pretty much wrong 100% of the time, I'll take your pathetic claim as flattery, Mrs. Huard.
How are my football takes wrong?

I am wrong some of the time, but in regards to Huard, I've been 100% right the last two seasons...

Sadly, very sadly, he has been the only QB that has been able to win games for the Chiefs and that's all I've said since he's been the starter.

He was the only Chiefs QB to win games for them last season, after all...he was obviously more prepared to QB than Brodie Croyle last season...

Lets hope that isn't the case this year, because I am hoping to never see Damon field another snap for the Chiefs...if we're going to suck this season, we might as well suck with Brodie, Thigpen or something other than Damon Huard.

FAX
08-03-2008, 11:22 AM
Everyone has a right to their own opinion, Mr. GoChiefs. But, don't let the critics get you down. This is a nice feelgood piece. Fun and light with solid detail. It reads differently than many of your previous articles, though.

Of course, I am a pro-Croyle. I'm not sure that the anti-Croyles will feel the same way. They were probably hoping that the story ends with the crowd beckoning Croyle over to the stands so they could bean him with soda cans.

FAX

Count Alex's Losses
08-03-2008, 11:25 AM
There were two tidbits I wanted to work in but couldn't.

At the end of the autograph session Brodie threw a pen back. It hit the kid in the hands. LOL!!! (,meh)

Back at the hotel two Chiefs fans told me: "Eh, let's wait until he does it in a real game." Thought that would have made for a funny epilogue.

Skip Towne
08-03-2008, 11:28 AM
There were two tidbits I wanted to work in but couldn't.

At the end of the autograph session Brodie threw a pen back. It hit the kid in the hands. LOL!!! (,meh)

Back at the hotel two Chiefs fans told me: "Eh, let's wait until he does it in a real game." Thought that would have made for a funny epilogue.
Didn't he hit his sister in the face with an apple or something when he was little?

blueballs
08-03-2008, 11:30 AM
a Kellie article and pic
would return your epic status
a fluff piece for the ages

milkman
08-03-2008, 11:31 AM
Didn't he hit his sister in the face with an apple or something when he was little?

George Washington lied.

It was Brodie, who traveled back in time, that chopped down the cherry tree with a laser beam pass.

RJ
08-03-2008, 11:42 AM
From the header, I thought it was going to be a story about a one night stand.

Count Alex's Losses
08-03-2008, 11:52 AM
From the header, I thought it was going to be a story about a one night stand.

Brodie's so dreamy! :thailor:

JuicesFlowing
08-03-2008, 12:52 PM
Brodie cant win, if he looked shitty in practice, you all be screaming for his head, but if he looks great in practice, you guys just say who gives a shit, its practice.

That's not true. I like Brodie a lot. I think the author of this article is ridiculous, and it sounds like he is trying to spoon-feed optimism to readers. The article is shit, not Brodie Croyle's practice.

Mr. Arrowhead
08-03-2008, 12:54 PM
Brodie's so dreamy! :thailor:
ehh gay

HIChief
08-03-2008, 01:22 PM
You can thank Chan Gailey.
We have grownups this year building the O and selecting plays.
I rather like the prospect of a real NFL FB who can catch...

These observations together with the Whitlock article are a good argument for keeping the Offense on the field as long as possible this year...as long as it reults in 6 points.

How good are the O-line backups? The Chiefs will need a lot of fresh bodies if they they succeed in extending the time of possession over the course of the game.

Count Alex's Losses
08-03-2008, 01:23 PM
How good are the O-line backups?

If you ask me Herb Taylor, Edwin Harrison and Wade Smith are the only ones worth a shit.

Herb did a fantastic job at LT last night.

go bowe
08-03-2008, 01:37 PM
this is by far my least favorite person on this site...* * *oooh oooh...

i can do that, put me in coach...

Phobia
08-03-2008, 01:46 PM
It's a fine piece. What's he supposed to write about at TC? Last season's games? You work with what you have on hand and what he has is a strong scrimmage performance from Croyle.

Deberg_1990
08-03-2008, 01:48 PM
It's a fine piece. What's he supposed to write about at TC? Last season's games? You work with what you have on hand and what he has is a strong scrimmage performance from Croyle.

Nobody has a problem with what hes writing about. Its the style he writes in. This particular column he romantisized it up to seem as if Croyle just won a Super Bowl.

Phobia
08-03-2008, 01:50 PM
Nobody has a problem with what hes writing about. Its the style he writes in. This particular column he romantisized it up to seem as if Croyle just won a Super Bowl.

Would you rather he focused on the lack of pressure from the defensive front allowing Croyle to turn in a near perfect night? I don't have any problem with focusing on the positive so long as it's balanced with the negatives too. For example, Whitlock is far too critical. Athan is far too rosy. As long as there's some balance then I have no complaints.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big Claythan fan at this point. But I've always been fair with my commentary. Always.

Count Alex's Losses
08-03-2008, 01:53 PM
I think deep down, none of you really want to believe in Brodie Croyle.

I'll be over here, chanting his name.

Phobia
08-03-2008, 01:54 PM
I think deep down, none of you really want to believe in Brodie Croyle.

I'll be over here, chanting his name.

Grossly generalized.

Deberg_1990
08-03-2008, 01:55 PM
I think deep down, none of you really want to believe in Brodie Croyle.

I'll be over here, chanting his name.


Id love it if he turned out to be the next Len Dawson. Hell, i think everyone wants him to.

I guess im too much of a realist. Glad you can be more optimistic than me.

Count Alex's Losses
08-03-2008, 01:58 PM
Id love it if he turned out to be the next Len Dawson. Hell, i think everyone wants him to.

I guess im too much of a realist. Glad you can be more optimistic than me.

No one was chanting Damon Huard's name.

Braincase
08-03-2008, 01:59 PM
More Gretz than Poz.

JASONSAUTO
08-03-2008, 02:00 PM
No one was chanting Damon Huard's name.

FOR SURE

Deberg_1990
08-03-2008, 02:01 PM
No one was chanting Damon Huard's name.

I guess ive seen too many of these "Jesse Haynesesq" Columns over the years to get my hopes up too much.

Lets see how Brodie performs in Sept-Dec.

DTLB58
08-03-2008, 03:45 PM
I got my Brodie's autograph on a hat yesterday afternoon over at the dorms. :D

Him and Bowe were walking out together, they both stoppped to take pics and sign for us and were very nice about the whole thing.

Herm came out next and we got pics with him also, very nice about it.

Gonzalez was next and boy was he pissed! You guys aren't suppose to be out here! I asked him anyways if he would please sign my jersey and he replied NO! and then said I'll catch ya at Family fun night. Never did get it.

Rausch
08-03-2008, 04:19 PM
There were two tidbits I wanted to work in but couldn't.

At the end of the autograph session Brodie threw a pen back. It hit the kid in the hands. LOL!!! (,meh)

Back at the hotel two Chiefs fans told me: "Eh, let's wait until he does it in a real game." Thought that would have made for a funny epilogue.

I think it's one of your better efforts.

No prognosticating, no bold claims, just told what happened and dished it out in somewhat corny/Homer style. That's not a bad thing. It's what a lot of fans want to read as they gear up for the first football of the season...

Count Alex's Losses
08-03-2008, 04:21 PM
I think it's one of your better efforts.

No prognosticating, no bold claims, just told what happened and dished it out in somewhat corny/Homer style. That's not a bad thing. It's what a lot of fans want to read as they gear up for the first football of the season...

My goal up here has always been to bring the training camp experience to Chiefs fans. It's fun. I'm kind of sad they're leaving because it's a neat little town, shitty as it is. I'm glad I got to do this for two years, because I won't be running into coaches or players outside of practice in Kansas City next year.