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Direckshun
08-03-2008, 10:01 AM
I posted a thread a few days ago lamenting the suicide of the chief suspect of those 2001 anthrax mailings: a government biochemist (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=188299).

Not a jihadist. Not Saddam Hussein. That's the messed up thing. If Ivins really was responsible, that means that this Anthrax was sent by a top U.S. Army scientist at Ft. Detrick.

Glenn Greenwald of Salon.com does a great excavation (http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/01/anthrax/index.html) of the media coverage back in the fall of 2001, shortly after September 11, as these mailings were going around. What Greenwald found was a systematic, baseless assertion by the media (ABC News, in particular) that these mailings were coming from Islamic terrorists and Saddam Hussein.

Greenwald's analysis makes for a fascinating conspiracy theory:

From the beginning, there was a clear intent on the part of the anthrax attacker to create a link between the anthrax attacks and both Islamic radicals and the 9/11 attacks.
Go on. I'm listening.

Much more important than the general attempt to link the anthrax to Islamic terrorists, there was a specific intent -- indispensably aided by ABC News -- to link the anthrax attacks to Iraq and Saddam Hussein.
During the last week of October, 2001, ABC News, led by Brian Ross, continuously trumpeted the claim as their top news story that government tests conducted on the anthrax -- tests conducted at Ft. Detrick -- revealed that the anthrax sent to Daschele contained the chemical additive known as bentonite. ABC News, including Peter Jennings, repeatedly claimed that the presence of bentonite in the anthrax was compelling evidence that Iraq was responsible for the attacks, since -- as ABC variously claimed -- bentonite "is a trademark of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein's biological weapons program" and "only one country, Iraq, has used bentonite to produce biological weapons."

Read the whole thing. It gets really creepy, and even includes McCain.

HonestChieffan
08-03-2008, 10:12 AM
McCain was behind 9/11 so he can't be part of the anthrax scare.

Thig Lyfe
08-03-2008, 10:18 AM
Wait, Barack Husein didn't do it?

No, wait, I bet Ivins was working for Rev. Wright to kill whitey. Yeah, that's the ticket!

HonestChieffan
08-03-2008, 10:20 AM
Molly Ivins? Hell she was dead.

Thig Lyfe
08-03-2008, 10:22 AM
I have an EXCLUSIVE photo of the suspect:

http://static.flickr.com/115/309772681_54791a50d6.jpg

irishjayhawk
08-03-2008, 08:17 PM
Olberman's segment actually played the clip of McCain. I'm VERY surprised this hasn't been a HUGE talking point in the media against McCain.

Direckshun
08-03-2008, 08:57 PM
Oh god, this is just getting darker and ****ing darker.

I'm not typically a conspiracy theorist. But some of this stuff is ****ing bizarre.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25991925

Scientist: DNA led agents to anthrax suspect

FREDERICK, Md. - DNA taken from the bodies of people killed in the 2001 anthrax attacks helped lead investigators to Bruce Ivins, who oversaw the highly specific type of toxin in an Army lab, a government scientist said Sunday.

Using new genome technology, researchers looked at samples of cells from the victims to identify the kind of anthrax Ames strain that killed them, the scientist said. They noticed very subtle differences in the DNA of the strain used in the attacks than in other types of Ames anthrax.

With that, investigators linked the specific type of anthrax back to Ivins' biological weapons lab at Ft. Detrick in Frederick, Md., where he oversaw its use and handling for research.

irishjayhawk
08-03-2008, 08:58 PM
Oh god, this is just getting darker and ****ing darker.

I'm not typically a conspiracy theorist. But some of this stuff is ****ing bizarre.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25991925

And then we have friends and co-workers saying he didn't have the knowledge or power to modify strains.

Direckshun
08-03-2008, 09:01 PM
And then we have friends and co-workers saying he didn't have the knowledge or power to modify strains.
Jesus, I hope so.

irishjayhawk
08-03-2008, 09:03 PM
Jesus, I hope so.

It doesn't help if that's true either. Their investigation 7 years later has now gone from Iraq to our own government. That's pretty damning in and of itself.

KILLER_CLOWN
08-03-2008, 09:56 PM
Anthrax Suspect Was Involuntarily Committed to Psychiatric Hospital Shortly Before His Death


Bruce E. Ivins, the anthrax researcher who supposedly committed suicide, and who the government is now trying to blame for the anthrax attacks, was involuntarily committed to 2 psychiatric hospitals shortly before his death.

Specifically, a month before his death, he was involuntarily committed to the Frederick Memorial Hospital and then transferred to Sheppard Pratt, another psychiatric facility.

Was Ivins crazy? Maybe.

Or maybe he was sent to a psych facility for the same reasons that the Soviet Union committed dissidents to psych hospitals. Maybe Ivins couldn't stand it anymore, and was about to blow the whistle on the real anthrax killers, so they ginned up some claims that he was dangerous and had him hospitalized.

And maybe Ivins' suicide was as real as http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23417404-details/Iraq+whistleblower+Dr+Kelly+WAS+murdered+to+silence+him%2C+says+MP/article.do and http://www.democracynow.org/2008/7/23/suicide_or_murder_three_years_after.

http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/08/anthrax-suspect-was-committed-to.html