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Bweb
08-06-2008, 11:28 AM
Just saw this on espn's site. You can vote for each Franchise's greatest player. For the chiefs they have a list of 10-12 players to vote for including DT, Len Dawson, etc.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?page=nflfranchisegreats&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos2

Micjones
08-06-2008, 11:28 AM
DT for my money.

DaKCMan AP
08-06-2008, 11:30 AM
No Rich Scanlon?

Dicky McElephant
08-06-2008, 11:31 AM
DT in the lead. Gonzo behind him in 2nd.

Bweb
08-06-2008, 11:34 AM
I went with DT over Gonzo as of right now....once Gonzo is done I would probably give it to him.

Demonpenz
08-06-2008, 11:36 AM
Julia childs

HemiEd
08-06-2008, 11:37 AM
That is really tough, really tough. But I went with Bobby Bell, DT would be second.

Jewish Rabbi
08-06-2008, 11:39 AM
Bam Morris

chasedude
08-06-2008, 11:40 AM
Does this have to be a player??? I vote Lamar Hunt

Consistent1
08-06-2008, 11:40 AM
No Rich Scanlon?


I got Grigsby.

Redrum_69
08-06-2008, 11:40 AM
repost times 1000000

Deberg_1990
08-06-2008, 11:41 AM
I voted for Brian Jozwiak

El Jefe
08-06-2008, 11:43 AM
Tamarack Vanover

blueballs
08-06-2008, 11:43 AM
I've not seen them all
not even Skips that old

Chief Chief
08-06-2008, 11:43 AM
Will Shields.

Where's the love for him?

12-time Pro Bowler played in 223 of 224 games.

Pulled out and hustled downfield to wipe out safeties, even in his final season.

StcChief
08-06-2008, 11:44 AM
Gonzo for on/off field as a player team rep.

El Jefe
08-06-2008, 11:46 AM
DT is ahead by a bit now.

Consistent1
08-06-2008, 11:47 AM
Honestly, I would say DT. He was pretty much a force.

Chief Faithful
08-06-2008, 11:50 AM
It is so good to see Will Shields on that list. He should be a Hall of Fame first ballot.

Bweb
08-06-2008, 11:51 AM
repost times 1000000

I just noticed the site on espn this morning and did not see a thread starting about the site, so I thought I would let the CP know.

Lighten'up Francis..... :BLVD:

Skip Towne
08-06-2008, 11:52 AM
Willie Lanier hands down

Chief Faithful
08-06-2008, 11:54 AM
Will Shields.

Where's the love for him?

12-time Pro Bowler played in 223 of 224 games.

Pulled out and hustled downfield to wipe out safeties, even in his final season.

I'm on that bandwagon. Look at how far the OLine performance dropped when he retired. He was an ironman that was the best at his position for over a decade.

Second to me is Len Dawson because he means as much to the city off the field as he did on it.

RJ
08-06-2008, 12:03 PM
Torn between Bell, Lanier and Otis, I cast my vote for Otis because he is my favorite football player ever and always will be. The fandom of the man I am today can never compare to the fandom of the 11 year old boy within.

But in truth, the very subjective answer to "best" is probably Bobby Bell.

Phobia
08-06-2008, 12:07 PM
DT? Seriously? I don't see how Lanier and Bell aren't running away with this.

Chief Faithful
08-06-2008, 12:09 PM
Torn between Bell, Lanier and Otis, I cast my vote for Otis because he is my favorite football player ever and always will be. The fandom of the man I am today can never compare to the fandom of the 11 year old boy within.

But in truth, the very subjective answer to "best" is probably Bobby Bell.

The three most physically gift that impacted how teams drafted the position would be Buchanon, Otis, and Bell.

Mr. Arrowhead
08-06-2008, 12:09 PM
Lenny "Cool" Dawson

MVChiefFan
08-06-2008, 01:14 PM
Does this include practice too? Because if it does, I have to go Jessie Haynes, hands down.

FAX
08-06-2008, 01:18 PM
I would have to vote Lanier. He was the heart and soul of that team, in my opinion.

Which makes me wonder why he hasn't gone into Herm's office and beaten the ever lovin' crap out of him on general principle.

FAX

Chief Faithful
08-06-2008, 01:21 PM
I don't see Rich Scanlon on the list.

Beerfund
08-06-2008, 01:22 PM
Elvis!!!!!!!!!!!!! k JK

StcChief
08-06-2008, 01:30 PM
Elvis!!!!!!!!!!!!! k JK
Steve 'Boner' Bono.

ChiefsCountry
08-06-2008, 01:46 PM
Sad thing is that Otis Taylor and Derrick Thomas should both be in the hall of fame.

ChiefsCountry
08-06-2008, 01:48 PM
I voted for Bobby Bell. He was a freak and was today's linebacker in the 60's.

CoMoChief
08-06-2008, 01:49 PM
Junior Siavii

Chief Chief
08-06-2008, 01:51 PM
Junior Siavii

Dude, Ryan Sims could easily out-donut him!

DaFace
08-06-2008, 02:11 PM
DT? Seriously? I don't see how Lanier and Bell aren't running away with this.

It's got to be the age thing. A lot of younger fans (like me) never even got to see them play live, so they're in a hole on this type of poll.

CoMoChief
08-06-2008, 02:14 PM
Dude, Ryan Sims could easily out-donut him!

But then Siavii would get mad and then the cops would mace him.

Samoin people have the some of the world's worst tempers.

gblowfish
08-06-2008, 02:21 PM
Well, Bobby Bell was the first outside linebacker ever inducted into the HOF.
Stenerud was the first pure kicker inducted.
Willie Lanier was one of the most feared middle linebackers ever, right there with Butkus and Nitschke.

I'd go with Bobby Bell.

SPATCH
08-06-2008, 02:22 PM
Sean LaChappelle

HemiEd
08-06-2008, 02:25 PM
But in truth, the very subjective answer to "best" is probably Bobby Bell.

He may be the best ever on any team.

RustShack
08-06-2008, 02:28 PM
Glenn Dorsey

milkman
08-06-2008, 02:59 PM
Willie Lanier.

Bobby Bell and Buck would be a close 2nd and 3rd.

RJ
08-06-2008, 03:18 PM
Well, Bobby Bell was the first outside linebacker ever inducted into the HOF.
Stenerud was the first pure kicker inducted.
Willie Lanier was one of the most feared middle linebackers ever, right there with Butkus and Nitschke.

I'd go with Bobby Bell.



Man, there were so many great MLB's in those days. Lanier, Butkus, Nitschke, Mike Curtis, Tommy Nobis, Lee Roy Jordan, Buonicotti, Mike Lucci......fun position to watch back then, those guys were all badasses. And Lanier was as tough as any of them.

JuicesFlowing
08-06-2008, 06:10 PM
Based on the fact that Gonzo is going to finish his career as the greatest tight end in the history of football I'd vote for him. But I could just as easily vote for DT. I dunno.

milkman
08-06-2008, 06:43 PM
Based on the fact that Gonzo is going to finish his career as the greatest tight end in the history of football I'd vote for him. But I could just as easily vote for DT. I dunno.

DT was a great player, but he wasn't even the Chiefs greatest LB.

chiefs1111
08-06-2008, 06:51 PM
Barry Word

chiefs1111
08-06-2008, 06:54 PM
Will Shields.

Where's the love for him?

12-time Pro Bowler played in 223 of 224 games.

Pulled out and hustled downfield to wipe out safeties, even in his final season.

He was one hell of a guard..... A H.O.F for sure.......

KC Tattoo
08-06-2008, 06:55 PM
I voted for DT#58 just because he is my favorite all time football player. Should be in HOF. I love the rest of the players too for their heart and soul they put in to be a :arrow: Chief.

pikesome
08-06-2008, 07:15 PM
DT was a great player, but he wasn't even the Chiefs greatest LB.

DT is my favorite player, I grew up watching him. That said, I'd have to agree. Bell would be my choice for greatest Chief. Hell, whoever said he might be greatest on any team probably isn't far off.

Friendo
08-06-2008, 07:57 PM
Willie Lanier.

Bobby Bell and Buck would be a close 2nd and 3rd.


this--and for at least one season, Dante was the greatest KR in the history of the game--should count for something imo.

ChiefsCountry
08-06-2008, 08:09 PM
DT was a great player, but he wasn't even the Chiefs greatest LB.

When DT is the 3rd best linebacker in your club history's, that tells you how damn good Bell and Lanier were.

Programmer
08-06-2008, 08:55 PM
Willie Lanier hands down

Agreed.

Lanier
Dawson
Podolak (not on the list)
Gonzalez
Garrett

Would/should all be considered above DT.

DT was a great player, but not an all around player. He will always be remembered as a great in KC's history.

Fish
08-06-2008, 09:47 PM
Demographic marketing? No camaro ads?

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Tribal Warfare
08-06-2008, 10:04 PM
Bobby Bell gets my vote

milkman
08-06-2008, 10:25 PM
Agreed.

Lanier
Dawson
Podolak (not on the list)
Gonzalez
Garrett

Would/should all be considered above DT.

DT was a great player, but not an all around player. He will always be remembered as a great in KC's history.

I can't say I agree with this.

Lanier, Bell, Buck, and possibly Taylor would be the only players I place above DT.

First, Podolak doesn't even remotely belong in this group.

He was an average player who had one great game.

Now DT wasn't an "all around" player, but I think that has as much to do with how the Chiefs utilized him, and in spite of that, he was better in run support than he is given for.

But what DT did was singlehandedly change the culture of the Chiefs.

After the years of suckitude, DT raised the level of expectation.
After he died, the Chiefs slipped back into suckitude.

Tony Gonzalez, for all of his numbers, never has had the kind of impact that DT had.