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Ultra Peanut
08-06-2008, 11:41 AM
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ChiTown
08-06-2008, 12:02 PM
Good lord, do people REALLY want this dumbass to be our President?
Direckshun
08-06-2008, 12:06 PM
Barry's got a little life to him in this interview/debate.
Great to see him that way without losing his head.
Direckshun
08-06-2008, 12:06 PM
Good lord, do people REALLY want this dumbass to be our President?
Who'd you vote for in 2004?
Donger
08-06-2008, 12:07 PM
Barack Hussein really isn't very good when he 1) doesn't have a teleprompter and 2) is being questioned.
Ultra Peanut
08-06-2008, 12:09 PM
Barack Hussein really isn't very good when he 1) doesn't have a teleprompter and 2) is being questioned.Aside from completely addressing his questions and making the guy look like a jackass for asking them, he was totally outclassed!
HonestChieffan
08-06-2008, 12:09 PM
Im for it and against it and feel stronlgly both ways.
ChiTown
08-06-2008, 12:09 PM
Who'd you vote for in 2004?
I didn't.
Given the two choices, I voted for the ever-popular Abstain.
Ultra Peanut
08-06-2008, 12:10 PM
Good lord, do people REALLY want this dumbass to be our President?I'm curious. What was "dumb" about his responses?
Sully
08-06-2008, 12:13 PM
I'm curious. What was "dumb" about his responses?
He's a Democrat
HonestChieffan
08-06-2008, 12:15 PM
I voted for the bill but was against it, McCain voted against it but was for it, and while you are confused but impressed with my eloquence let me reitererate that I have no idea what MCain saidd but I want you to believe he is against all new technology and I support them all but reserve the right to change my mind at will.
VAChief
08-06-2008, 12:24 PM
Barack Hussein really isn't very good when he 1) doesn't have a teleprompter and 2) is being questioned.
I didn't see any glaring lapses there at all. Where did he fail to either answer the question asked or clearly explain his position? You may not agree, but its not like it was Keith Olbermann throwing him soft balls.
In contrast did you see McCheese yesterday during the biker rally where he was apparently ready to whore out his second wife? "I want to win the war, by...uh uh winning? " Probably not his best moment, and he was using notes!!!
Good lord, do people REALLY want this dumbass to be our President?
Barack Hussein really isn't very good when he 1) doesn't have a teleprompter and 2) is being questioned.
Anyone who seriously takes these positions away from that particuar interivew doesn't give a crap about reality. There might be moments and clips that justify mockery or insulting Obama... that clip is far, far from it.
SHTSPRAYER
08-06-2008, 12:51 PM
dRoppin sZience! YEaH BoyEE
Donger
08-06-2008, 01:30 PM
Anyone who seriously takes these positions away from that particuar interivew doesn't give a crap about reality. There might be moments and clips that justify mockery or insulting Obama... that clip is far, far from it.
You are always so over the top. I was simply giving my opinion between Barack Hussein at a podium reading from a teleprompter versus being interviewed.
ROYC75
08-06-2008, 01:35 PM
Personally both of the candidates suck, Obama is a goon and McCain is an old fool.
As for the video, Obama back tracks, if he really didn't want that energy plan he would have voted no on it. Go ahead Obama, tell the people what they want to hear. I'm tired of all of this he said, he said BS, show the damn bills where each one voted on instead of slinging words, get it out in a open forum ( debate ) to be discussed and then let the candidates answer what they "will " do.
Chances are they will back track once in office, just like any other politician of years past.
Reaper16
08-06-2008, 01:38 PM
You are always so over the top. I was simply giving my opinion between Barack Hussein at a podium reading from a teleprompter versus being interviewed.
That's not over the top at all. By giving that opinion in this thread, one assumes that you had the clip embedded in this thread in mind. I agree with jAZ here, the given clip does not justify your opinion given of Barack.
I mean you managed, with that take, to have a post of less quality than SHTSPRAYER's. That shouldn't happen from you.
Chief Henry
08-06-2008, 01:53 PM
Barry is asked some challenging questions. Barry then accuses the newsman for being a shill for the McCain camp. Whats wrong Barry, don't you like answering questions from
a non DNC shill reporter ???
Reaper16
08-06-2008, 02:00 PM
Barry is asked some challenging questions. Barry then accuses the newsman for being a shill for the McCain camp. Whats wrong Barry, don't you like answering questions from
a non DNC shill reporter ???
Those questions weren't challenging, as Barack answered them pretty easily. The questions were, however, clearly slanted and uninformed.
HolmeZz
08-06-2008, 02:06 PM
Good lord, do people REALLY want this dumbass to be our President?
The guy on the left isn't running for President.
Ultra Peanut
08-06-2008, 02:11 PM
ChiTown?
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Donger
08-06-2008, 02:14 PM
That's not over the top at all. By giving that opinion in this thread, one assumes that you had the clip embedded in this thread in mind. I agree with jAZ here, the given clip does not justify your opinion given of Barack.
I mean you managed, with that take, to have a post of less quality than SHTSPRAYER's. That shouldn't happen from you.
I disagree. Barack Hussein is a fantastic public speaker, when he has something to read. But he tends to ramble when answering questions one on one.
That's what I was comparing.
Perhaps I should have written "no where near as good"?
Baby Lee
08-06-2008, 02:27 PM
Both had their bad moments. The interviewer started off confrontational using 'changing, reversing' and accusing him of 'cChange for political reasons.' That poisoned the interview
But then Obama accuses him of being a proxy for McCain, which is a pretty strong charge to level at a journalist
The interviewer IDs a valid criticism when he points out Obama supported tax breaks that McCain voted against. Obama says he denounced tax breaks, but voted for because of subsidies. But Obama is trying to play it both ways. The same subsidies that he says McCain voted against are tied to the tax breaks Obama voted for. Further, he tries to gild the lily by saying that McCain is against solar/wind/biofuel, etc., when in fact he's just been against the specific subsidies. He wants to plant in people's minds that McCain doesn't want these technologies to exist as opposed to having a different philosophy on how they should be fostered.
The interviewer is much stronger on the Yucca mountain issue. This probably hits pretty close to home as the guy is in Las Vegas. ANd his concern is that, if Obama's gonna put everything on the table, caving from a absolute stand on drilling, what's to say he won't cave the same way on Yucca Mountain. This speaks to people in the interviewer constituency for whom this is probably a make or break. Obama tries to argue that it's better than McCain who supports it right now, but that ignores those for whom their main sticking point is a stance on Yucca Mountain, where the flip of the coin is the alternative if there's no difference between the two when it gets to brass tacks, or even more strongly for those who'd support McCain, but for his Yucca Mountain stance.
ChiTown
08-06-2008, 04:03 PM
Believe me when I say, I think both of these guys are the political equivalent of Corky from the TV Series "Life Goes On".
I'm amazed we can't find better candidates to represent either party. Then again, we haven't had a President who was worth a good gawd damn since Reagan....so what should I really expect.
McCain = a cranky old man, who is a fence riding, quasi conservative.
Obama = a catchy sound byte, just left of Nancy Pelosi, and a sheer lack of insight as to how a Country should be run.
I'd rather vote for Ron Paul, but that would just make waaaaaaay too much common sense. Our Country just isn't ready for that sort of leadership yet.
ChiTown?
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splatbass
08-06-2008, 04:11 PM
Personally both of the candidates suck, Obama is a goon and McCain is an old fool.
As for the video, Obama back tracks, if he really didn't want that energy plan he would have voted no on it. Go ahead Obama, tell the people what they want to hear. I'm tired of all of this he said, he said BS, show the damn bills where each one voted on instead of slinging words, get it out in a open forum ( debate ) to be discussed and then let the candidates answer what they "will " do.
Chances are they will back track once in office, just like any other politician of years past.
Senators often vote for bills they don't completely agree with if it has things in it they think are important. That is the case here. It is called "compromise" and smart people do it all the time.
You are always so over the top. I was simply giving my opinion between Barack Hussein at a podium reading from a teleprompter versus being interviewed.
I don't know what standard you have for "very good", but that was a heck of an interview on his part. If you are suggesting that this was a very good interview, but it falls short of his ability to give amazing speeches, or anything of the sort... then maybe you just worded that poorly and we can agree.
If you are using a John McCain interview or a George Bush interview, or a Dick Cheney interview or a John Kerry interview or a Bill Clinton interview or a Hillary Clinton interview or an Al Gore interview as a baseline, and you are saying he's not as good as or better than all of those people, then you are kidding yourself.
There are far better (or worse) examples you can use to criticize Obama on. This interview, if watched by even a wide range of people, would be seen as very favorable for Obama.
That you would seem to miss that here is your problem.
I disagree. Barack Hussein is a fantastic public speaker, when he has something to read. But he tends to ramble when answering questions one on one.
That's what I was comparing.
Perhaps I should have written "no where near as good"?
We may very well agree on your opinion then. But Obama is so good in front of an audience with a prepared speech, that I don't think anyone in my lifetime has ever compared. So to suggest that not living up to that is "not very good" is so far off target that it's pretty reasonable to assume you are trying to take a shot at the guy.
If that's not where you were headed, then I think we can agree.
The interviewer started off confrontational using 'changing, reversing' and accusing him of 'cChange for political reasons.' That poisoned the interview
But then Obama accuses him of being a proxy for McCain, which is a pretty strong charge to level at a journalist
...
The interviewer is much stronger on the Yucca mountain issue.
I think the interview very clearly refined his tone after Obama put him back on his heels by pointing out that he was acting like a proxy for McCain. You count that against Obama, but he delivered the comment so smoothly and with a bit of a laugh, that Obama gets that "point".
Nightfyre
08-06-2008, 05:12 PM
Ron Paul was great on face to face. Much better than Obama.
jettio
08-06-2008, 05:58 PM
I don't know what standard you have for "very good", but that was a heck of an interview on his part. If you are suggesting that this was a very good interview, but it falls short of his ability to give amazing speeches, or anything of the sort... then maybe you just worded that poorly and we can agree.
If you are using a John McCain interview or a George Bush interview, or a Dick Cheney interview or a John Kerry interview or a Bill Clinton interview or a Hillary Clinton interview or an Al Gore interview as a baseline, and you are saying he's not as good as or better than all of those people, then you are kidding yourself.
There are far better (or worse) examples you can use to criticize Obama on. This interview, if watched by even a wide range of people, would be seen as very favorable for Obama.
That you would seem to miss that here is your problem.
Maybe, some of the folks on chiefs planet have an inferiority complex when it comes to Obama.
I think the only way that anybody could watch that clip and start criticizing the way that Obama handled that interview is if they think that Obama is superhuman extraordinary beyond the talents of anyone who has ever come before.
He handled that interview perfectly and then we planeteers get to read outstanding commentary by folks that have never performed any feat in their life as well as Obama handled that interview.
What a beautiful thing to behold. America is so great that we can have someone great handle something as well as anybody could imagine and then have nobodies who have never nailed any task or project in their life as well as Obama handled that interview pop off about how the guy that nailed the interview missed his marks or something.
This thread ought to end up in the classics, if only we had enough morons around here to watch that clip and then figure that Obama somehow messed up in that interview.
jettio
08-06-2008, 06:06 PM
Ron Paul was great on face to face. Much better than Obama.
Ron Paul would be more convincing if he spoke in a tone of voice that did not suggest that he would be startled if people agreed with him.
Ron Paul speaks in an exapserated whine as if the people can't get what he is driving at, and that is why he can't reach more people. You can't reach too many people if you speak like that.
Sully
08-06-2008, 06:24 PM
Ron Paul was great on face to face. Much better than Obama.
It's a shame he couldn't get more Americans to believe in his fringe views.
That was a well executed, off the cuff interview. If anyone thinks Obama truly wanted the breaks for big oil, they havent been paying attention.
That was actually one of his better one to ones.
BigChiefDave
08-06-2008, 08:58 PM
Good lord, do people REALLY want this dumbass to be our President?No, but what choice do we have? They are all dumbasses.
go bowe
08-06-2008, 11:29 PM
It's a shame he couldn't get more Americans to believe in his fringe views.some of those views weren't so fringe...
i would vote for ron paul if he was the nominee of the republican party...
or of the dems...
sure, some of his economic positions are just short of crazy, but he wouldn't have been able to do much damage without the cooperation of congress...
i loved most of his foreign policy positions...
maby one day we'll vote a ron paul type into the presidency...
but that won't happen in my lifetime...
Why is the option of America supplying 100% of it's own oil and building technologies for the future not on the table?
That would be both energy independence quickly, and lower consumption once new technologies are found.
You got Obama who wants to take the long view, and McCain doesn't even take the full short view.
If energy independence is what we want the first order of business should be to make sure that we get 100% of our oil from our own US sources. That's something that can be done while we're researching, studying and creating new sources, and more efficient sources here at home as well.
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