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Gonzo
08-06-2008, 03:47 PM
I think they have played inspired but inconsistent baseball this year. It seems as though they are very close to turning a corner though and may actually finish with a decent record this year.

Your thoughts?

Silock
08-06-2008, 03:49 PM
Very close. Need some pitching help and a couple of more consistent batters to get into the playoffs still.

Deberg_1990
08-06-2008, 03:50 PM
They need Gordon and Butler to continue to develop.

They need a 1st Baseman and another corner outfielder who can rake.

keg in kc
08-06-2008, 03:52 PM
Below .500, but this isn't "as usual". This is the first step towards something better.

Demonpenz
08-06-2008, 03:54 PM
we need a solid number 1,2,3 starters in the rotion, grienke is good at 4 and meche at 5. Power hitting first basement, a decent corner outfielder and maybe add 3 or 4 arms

Pestilence
08-06-2008, 03:55 PM
They suck.

petegz28
08-06-2008, 03:56 PM
We are on pace to win 75-77 games right now. That is a notable improvment if that holds out.

Nightfyre
08-06-2008, 04:01 PM
this year we will miss the playoffs. However, if we get Teixeira, Gordon comes around, pick up Sabathia or have one of our young gun pitchers come around, I think we make the playoffs next year.

Sure-Oz
08-06-2008, 04:02 PM
we need another power bat in the lineup. Gordon and Butler need to continue to develop, they are a huge key, if both pan out to be above avg players that'd jump start us a ton.

Pitching is pretty solid in the pen and we could probably use another starter.

Nightfyre
08-06-2008, 04:06 PM
we need another power bat in the lineup. Gordon and Butler need to continue to develop, they are a huge key, if both pan out to be above avg players that'd jump start us a ton.

Pitching is pretty solid in the pen and we could probably use another starter.

I'm thinking Butler came around this last month. Hopefully it's not a fluke.

DeezNutz
08-06-2008, 04:07 PM
this year we will miss the playoffs. However, if we get Teixeira, Gordon comes around, pick up Sabathia or have one of our young gun pitchers come around, I think we make the playoffs next year.

You should dream bigger. These small wishes are depressing.

Teixeira and Sabathia, huh? ROFL Hey, I'd love this. In fact, I'd have to install an intermittent windshield wiper on my television to clean the love juice off the screen on opening day.

Sure-Oz
08-06-2008, 04:08 PM
I'm thinking Butler came around this last month. Hopefully it's not a fluke.

We need him to be pretty consistent though, along with Alex. Gordon's OBP is alot better, he has had a pretty damn good eye, we just need that average to stay above .250. I am more so worried about Gordon hitting than Butler.

Demonpenz
08-06-2008, 04:08 PM
The dermatoligist called gordon a ticking timebomb today

Nightfyre
08-06-2008, 04:09 PM
You should dream bigger. These small wishes are depressing.

Teixeira and Sabathia, huh? ROFL Hey, I'd love this. In fact, I'd have to install an intermittent windshield wiper on my television to clean the love juice off the screen on opening day.

Yea. Dream big. On the other hand one of our other SP could come around. We need Teix, if he comes available, tho. If he is available and we don't land him I will call this offseason a failure barring the snag of both Dunn and Sabathia.

DeezNutz
08-06-2008, 04:14 PM
I would recommend lowering your expectations just a tad. Right now the Royals' payroll is around 60 mil. I've heard 58, but there are some folks on here that claim it's higher, so let's just say 60. For next year, not much is coming off the books, so this figure remains. A player like Dunn would probably cost around 15 and Sabathia is going to be around 20.

There's no way in hell, as much as I'd love to see it, that KC's payroll is going from 60 to 95 mil. Could it or should it? That's a different argument. Will it? No. So don't get too bent out or shape when we don't land two front-line FA's. If we land one, I'd be thrilled. From here, the baseball folks will have to earn their money.

Sure-Oz
08-06-2008, 04:16 PM
I would recommend lowering your expectations just a tad. Right now the Royals' payroll is around 60 mil. I've heard 58, but there are some folks on here that claim it's higher, so let's just say 60. For next year, not much is coming off the books, so this figure remains. A player like Dunn would probably cost around 15 and Sabathia is going to be around 20.

There's no way in hell, as much as I'd love to see it, that KC's payroll is going from 60 to 95 mil. Could it or should it? That's a different argument. Will it? No. So don't get too bent out or shape when we don't land two front-line FA's. If we land one, I'd be thrilled. From here, the baseball folks will have to earn their money.

I'd put a power bat first, possibly Dunn and or Burrell.

DeezNutz
08-06-2008, 04:18 PM
I'd put a power bat first, possibly Dunn and or Burrell.

Yeah, power would be nice. But I might just about break the bank for Sabathia. That much talent from the left side? Whoa. That's a ****ing dream, though. I think Teixeira might be even more realistic.

Demonpenz
08-06-2008, 04:19 PM
Dejesus RF
Furcal SS
Avalies 2B
Texeria 1b
Dunn DH
LF Burrell
Olivo/buck C
3rd Gordon
Center Teahen

bench Guillen
buck
Butler

Nightfyre
08-06-2008, 04:19 PM
Oh, the other factor, imo is if Moustakas comes around.

DeezNutz
08-06-2008, 04:21 PM
Dejesus RF
Furcal SS
Avalies 2B
Texeria 1b
Dunn DH
LF Burrell
Olivo/buck C
3rd Gordon
Center Teahen

bench Guillen
buck
Butler

CC starting?

DeezNutz
08-06-2008, 04:21 PM
Oh, the other factor, imo is if Moustakas comes around.

He's doing great of late, but he's 19. Not a factor for 2 more seasons. Consider him a savings account. Out of sight out of mind.

Sure-Oz
08-06-2008, 04:22 PM
Oh, the other factor, imo is if Moustakas comes around.

He's been on fire with 5 hr's this month and has 19 now

Nightfyre
08-06-2008, 04:23 PM
He's doing great of late, but he's 19. Not a factor for 2 more seasons. Consider him a savings account. Out of sight out of mind.

Felix Hernandez is only 20, right?

edit: He's 22 and been in the MLB for four years. I can dream dammit.

DeezNutz
08-06-2008, 04:27 PM
Felix Hernandez is only 20, right?

edit: He's 22 and been in the MLB for four years. I can dream dammit.

Understandable. Not the first time the Royals have provoked delusions. :)

petegz28
08-06-2008, 04:27 PM
Biggest surpirse of the year....Mike Avilles.

Nightfyre
08-06-2008, 04:28 PM
Understandable. Not the first time the Royals have provoked delusions. :)

ROFL Another quick question: Gordon seems to have tremendous range for a 3b. As long as we're being delusional, whats odds he can move to short?

Demonpenz
08-06-2008, 04:30 PM
gordon played ss in hs and some in college

Silock
08-06-2008, 04:31 PM
we need a solid number 1,2,3 starters in the rotion, grienke is good at 4 and meche at 5. Power hitting first basement, a decent corner outfielder and maybe add 3 or 4 arms

I don't think we need 3 new starters. Bannister is off-form. He needs to stay consistent, but I don't know if he can. I think we really only need 1 more starting pitcher. Davies has got to go. Of course, I'm speaking only in terms of making the playoffs.

If we get everything you're advocating, we're World Series caliber. I just don't see that happening by next season. Maybe in 3.

Silock
08-06-2008, 04:32 PM
ROFL Another quick question: Gordon seems to have tremendous range for a 3b. As long as we're being delusional, whats odds he can move to short?

Why would you? Aviles is doing really, really well there right now.

Nightfyre
08-06-2008, 04:33 PM
Why would you? Aviles is doing really, really well there right now.

Well, when we don't resign grudz we can bump gordon to short and have butler play third, sign teix and have a glorious infield.

Silock
08-06-2008, 04:35 PM
I love pipe dreams :)

I wish they'd come true :(

OmahaChief
08-06-2008, 04:36 PM
He's been on fire with 5 hr's this month and has 19 now


He clocked two last night giving him 20 on the year.

Kila took another one deep here in Omaha as well.

ChiefsCountry
08-06-2008, 04:37 PM
Well, when we don't resign grudz we can bump gordon to short and have butler play third, sign teix and have a glorious infield.

Butler play third? He has a hard enough time at first which is the easiest position to play.

kcfanXIII
08-06-2008, 04:54 PM
don't count the royals out in FA. they came close to signing tori hunter, and i think the non-action at the dead line this season really shows how close the front office thinks they are. i'm not going to slit my wrists if tex/sabathia don't end up signing here, but i think it might be more of a possibility than you're admitting right now.

btw, i think a lot of royals fans would need a towel to wipe their tv's with. maybe it could be a promotion.

plbrdude
08-06-2008, 04:58 PM
Below .500, but this isn't "as usual". This is the first step towards something better.

that was my thought too. as usual would be 100+ losses. i'm thinkin this team is close to turning the corner. 2 more yr of progress and the could be pushin for the play-offs.

DJ's left nut
08-06-2008, 05:17 PM
we need a solid number 1,2,3 starters in the rotion, grienke is good at 4 and meche at 5. Power hitting first basement, a decent corner outfielder and maybe add 3 or 4 arms

Wow, that's pretty much crazy.

Greinke can be a #2. The kid has an ERA below 4, he has dynamite stuff and is still only 24. There's not a team in baseball with a #3 that good, let alone a 4. TB may pull that off, that's it.

Meche a #3. He's a good pitcher, has been a great pitcher for 2 months now. He's occasionally lights out, but not consistent enough to be a true top of the rotation guy. He's the definition of a #3 starter.

Bannister a #5. Innings, keeps you in most games. He's a born back of the rotation starter.

You guys need a #1 and a #4. The 4 should be an innings eater that can give you league average performance; A Jeff Suppan-type.

That said, the Royals are still screwed until they get a new hitting coach. They've wasted 2 seasons of development on both Gordon and Butler. Shealy's busted, Teahan's regressed and Aviles will do the same if they don't get someone else in there soon.

Nightfyre
08-06-2008, 05:22 PM
Wow, that's pretty much crazy.

Greinke can be a #2. The kid has an ERA below 4, he has dynamite stuff and is still only 24. There's not a team in baseball with a #3 that good, let alone a 4. TB may pull that off, that's it.

Meche a #3. He's a good pitcher, has been a great pitcher for 2 months now. He's occasionally lights out, but not consistent enough to be a true top of the rotation guy. He's the definition of a #3 starter.

Bannister a #5. Innings, keeps you in most games. He's a born back of the rotation starter.

You guys need a #1 and a #4. The 4 should be an innings eater that can give you league average performance; A Jeff Suppan-type. I agree with most of this. I think Greinke is a #2 now with #1 future. Meche I think is a servicable 3 or 4 when hes not playing well, and when he's hot hes a servicable 2.


That said, the Royals are still screwed until they get a new hitting coach. They've wasted 2 seasons of development on both Gordon and Butler. Shealy's busted, Teahan's regressed and Aviles will do the same if they don't get someone else in there soon.

I do agree with this, however. We have seen a decline in our hitters the longer they stay in the majors. Whoever is handling it down in AAA seems to have a magic touch though. They brought up Aviles, Butler came back a new man and they are consistently developing strong hitters.

Thig Lyfe
08-06-2008, 05:24 PM
40-10 run to finish the season.

Probably win the division.

Beat Red Sox in ALDS

Beat Rays in ALCS

Beat Cubs in WS

Nightfyre
08-06-2008, 05:25 PM
Beat Cubs in WS

Just imagine how bitter the cubs fans would be.

thurman merman
08-15-2008, 06:34 PM
BELOW .500!

chiefsfan987
08-15-2008, 06:56 PM
Below .500 as usual.

Skip Towne
08-15-2008, 11:23 PM
I think the Royals suck. I put every thread about them on ignore. When will you dipshits give it up?

DeezNutz
08-15-2008, 11:57 PM
I think the Royals suck. I put every thread about them on ignore. When will you dipshits give it up?

ROFL

And I'm bitter about the Royals...

Jenson71
08-16-2008, 12:10 AM
My current thoughts are that I'm glad we beat the Yankees.