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Tuckdaddy
08-06-2008, 05:34 PM
yes that's right! I like the youth movement and think Herm has drafted well. Hard to see it yet but I think he has. My knocks on Herm is this, he could have done better with the O-line and finding a second WR to line up with Bowe. This season will probably be painful but I think he's on track to build a winner.

I would give him two more years.

He's a fugging funny interview and energetic as hell ta boot.


I know this thread is worthless.

kstater
08-06-2008, 05:37 PM
I wonder where this thread is headed?

Bill Lundberg
08-06-2008, 05:38 PM
I'm with you. There. I said it. I am a fan of Herman Edwards. God it feels good to get that out there...

Bearcat
08-06-2008, 05:38 PM
So... one day we'll be paper champions?


:evil:

Mr. Flopnuts
08-06-2008, 05:39 PM
So... one day we'll be paper champions?


:evil:

We won't be Arena League Champions.

Guru
08-06-2008, 05:41 PM
I can't stand him as a coach. Hell, just got done watching his presser on WDAF and he is talking about how we are not kicking enough field goals. God forbid we score TDs. I know what he is referring to but what is it about him having field goals on the brain all the time?

Bearcat
08-06-2008, 05:42 PM
We won't be Arena League Champions.

It's sort of like "can God make a rock so heavy even he can't lift it?"


Can Herm build a team so good even his coaching can't screw it up?

blueballs
08-06-2008, 05:42 PM
I like Herm
even if he is a pancake short
of a stack

Baconeater
08-06-2008, 05:43 PM
I can't stand him as a coach. Hell, just got done watching his presser on WDAF and he is talking about how we are not kicking enough field goals. God forbid we score TDs. I know what he is referring to but what is it about him having field goals on the brain all the time?

At least he isn't saying we're not punting enough.

KC Tattoo
08-06-2008, 05:44 PM
I like the youth movement still about three years late or 20 years late how ever long CP has been here too late. Herm is a good guy "get over it" :evil:

Mr. Arrowhead
08-06-2008, 05:48 PM
I Love Herman!!!! so "get over it, it happens"

DeezNutz
08-06-2008, 05:50 PM
I like Herm, too. I know this places me in the minority. I couldn't stand Vermeil (as coach--he seems like a cool person).

IMO, Edwards is going to put together a monster defense before he leaves KC, and he'll win a playoff game. In other words, he'll assemble the talent for the next guy.

milkman
08-06-2008, 05:51 PM
You like Herman ****ing Edwatds and aren't afraid to say it?

How's the drinks today?

Bill Parcells
08-06-2008, 05:54 PM
At least he isn't saying we're not punting enough.

Nice avatar

chiefs1111
08-06-2008, 05:57 PM
At least he isn't saying we're not punting enough.

He hasn't said it.......... yet. We still have all of preseason and a 16 game regular season to get through....

Mr. Arrowhead
08-06-2008, 05:58 PM
I like Herm, too. I know this places me in the minority. I couldn't stand Vermeil (as coach--he seems like a cool person).

IMO, Edwards is going to put together a monster defense before he leaves KC, and he'll win a playoff game. In other words, he'll assemble the talent for the next guy.
i agree, i think vermiels selfish mindset of a win now philosophy set us back which is part of the reason why we are where we are now. I might add that win now philosophy got us 1 playoff berth.

Crashride
08-06-2008, 05:59 PM
I think hes definetly coach material, just not HEAD COACH material.

DeezNutz
08-06-2008, 06:01 PM
i agree, i think vermiels selfish mindset of a win now philosophy set us back which is part of the reason why we are where we are now. I might add that win now philosophy got us 1 playoff berth.

That's true. But I put more blame on Carl for allowing this to happen. His biggest flaw seems to be that he gives his head coach too much control. Carl needed to keep Grandpa in check, such as forcing the firing of Greg R.

QuikSsurfer
08-06-2008, 06:05 PM
.It's like going to the prom. If you're not on the bus... then the train is moving

FAX
08-06-2008, 06:53 PM
When I see him on the sidelines
My heart just skips a beat
You can keep your rules and guidelines
There's no need to be discreet

'Cause I got ...

Herm love
I got Herm love
I confirm love
Oh baby, I got Herm love

When he's speaking to the press
I feel all warm inside
And it's time I must confess
Oh, yes, I gots to confide

It must be ...

Herm love
I got Herm love
I confirm love
Oh baby, I got Herm love

Some say he don't make sense
They say he's just a tool
Other teams may kill our offense
Yeah, they beat us like a mule

But, I got ..

Herm love
I got Herm love
I confirm love
Oh baby, I got Herm love

We may never win a game
And a playoff's just a dream
But, I'm going to proclaim
I got Kleenex and some cream

And I got ..

Herm love
I got Herm love
I confirm love
Oh baby, I got Herm love

FAX

JimNasium
08-06-2008, 07:23 PM
Herm Edwards is who we thought he was. If you want to crown him then crown his ass.

Reerun_KC
08-06-2008, 07:28 PM
I think I just puked alittle...

Dude is clueless as a gameday coach...

The Indy game last year, burning two timeouts in the Raiders game on the same play.

Problem is the guy never learns from his mistakes, they keep showing up on gamedays over and over and over again!

Tiger's Fan
08-06-2008, 07:35 PM
He's a scout. What do you expect?

Programmer
08-06-2008, 07:39 PM
I didn't like herman when he was screwing up the Jets.

He doesn't have the tools to make any team a winner. His forte is defense and he should be relegated to that duty with some other team.

Baconeater
08-06-2008, 07:54 PM
Nice avatar
You need to come up with a better tagline. Something like GoRedneck or GoCowtipping.

Boon
08-06-2008, 08:02 PM
I think Herm would be fine as a head coach were he with the Donkeys, Faiders, etc.

ChiefsCountry
08-06-2008, 08:23 PM
Herm's got the right idea in building a team with youth, speed, through a hard nose defense and ball control offense. Thats normally what does the trick in winning the big one, if he wasnt so damn conservate in certain game day mistakes he could be a really good coach.

CrazyHorse
08-06-2008, 09:08 PM
He's alright I guess.

The things I dont like about him is the way he tells you the team is playing well when they are flat lousy. Like you're an idiot.

He also claims to always tell the truth. But when it comes to seriousness of an injury, he always lies. LJ was week to week last season when he knew damn well he wasn't coming back. He claimed he didn't even know what was wrong with his foot for several weeks. When finally confronted about why he continued to lie about the injury for weeks to the fans and the media, he claimed "it was the best thing for the organization".

That pissed me off and lost major credibility.

Aside from that, I think he is probably a good personel man, but probably not head coach material.

Count Zarth
08-06-2008, 09:12 PM
I'm good with Herm. Lead us.

kcfanXIII
08-06-2008, 09:15 PM
herm is a decent scout, but too many game day mistakes make him a lousy coach. fire his ass.

kcfanXIII
08-06-2008, 09:16 PM
I'm good with Herm. Lead us.


this from the guy that thought hutard was a good QB.

BigRock
08-06-2008, 09:18 PM
what is it about him having field goals on the brain all the time?

I'm going to guess that he wants to kick some so they can decide on a kicker.

Skip Towne
08-06-2008, 09:19 PM
Herm is a total dumbass. He is so old school he doesn't have the internet. No wonder he has a losing record as a head coach. Everybody is ahead of him.

Mr. Arrowhead
08-06-2008, 09:20 PM
HERMAN IS DA MAN!!!

CHENZ A!
08-06-2008, 09:33 PM
I don't hate the guy, actually like hime better than DV for sure. I just think he had the deck stacked against him when he got here, with not being able to pick his own coordinators, Carl still having too much control over personnel decisions, not to mention a total lack of talented football players. He seems like a good motivator, and judge of talent. I say give him a couple more years.... As for Carl, his ass can go! too bad they're probably attached at the hip though.

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Tribal Warfare
08-06-2008, 09:34 PM
Herm is a good scout, but an average gameday coach

Deberg_1990
08-06-2008, 09:35 PM
I don't hate the guy, actually like hime better than DV for sure.

Seriously?? DV has forgotten more X's and O's than Herm will ever learn.

KcMizzou
08-06-2008, 09:35 PM
Herm is a total dumbass. He is so old school he doesn't have the internet. No wonder he has a losing record as a head coach. Everybody is ahead of him.I don't believe that for a second. Lots of coaches pull that crap.

He also says he has a cell phone that he doesn't answer, and he doesn't know his own number. (He said that when asked about interest in Favre.)

I like Herm. I like the guy a lot.

I'm not sure I like him as a football coach... but I'm not ready to run him out of town yet either.

evolve27
08-06-2008, 09:38 PM
Herman has abysmal play-calling on the offensive side of the football.

Count Zarth
08-06-2008, 09:40 PM
Seriously?? DV has forgotten more X's and O's than Herm will ever learn.

And where did it get him in KC...

Deberg_1990
08-06-2008, 09:44 PM
And where did it get him in KC...

Nowhere, but come on. Look at DV's overall career. Herm doesnt even come close.

milkman
08-06-2008, 09:45 PM
Herm ****ing Edwards is who we thought he was. If you want to clown him then clown his ass.

FYP

Count Zarth
08-06-2008, 09:45 PM
Let's see how Herm does when he lucks into a Pro Bowl QB. That's what happened to DV.

Deberg_1990
08-06-2008, 09:49 PM
Let's see how Herm does when he lucks into a Pro Bowl QB. That's what happened to DV.

Im not here to bash Herm too hard. Im not his biggest fan, but he obviously needs a little more time and tools.

I do believe he can build a good team, but he just doesnt have enough gameday sense to ever get a team to a Super Bowl.

KcMizzou
08-06-2008, 09:54 PM
Im not here to bash Herm too hard. Im not his biggest fan, but he obviously needs a little more time and tools.

I do believe he can build a good team, but he just doesnt have enough gameday sense to ever get a team to a Super Bowl.Yeah, it's weird.

I tend to agree that "he just doesnt have enough gameday sense to ever get a team to a Super Bowl". (Yet, I wouldn't completely rule it out.)

But I do honestly believe that he has the ability to build a Super Bowl quality roster. (Or at least a roster that could win a couple of playoff games.)

If that makes sense.

cdcox
08-06-2008, 10:16 PM
Milkman comes closest to expressing my opinion of Herm, except he shows him too much respect.

CosmicPal
08-06-2008, 10:24 PM
As a person, I have to say I admire him greatly.

He gets up before anyone and runs daily. He's dutifully hardworking and he's a bright guy.

He's probably one of the hardest working people in the game, and he loves the game of football.

I don't care for his game management skills, but I do like his philosophy on building a young, resurgent team. He's a player's coach.

My only hope is, he'll not only learn to manage the game, but someday excel at it. If he doesn't, it will be his eventual downfall. You can be a great player's coach, and the hardest working individual in the game, but if you can't beat the coach on the other side of the field, you're not going to win very many games.

And that is what I believe he needs to work on the most. I do wish him well because he represents the Chiefs right now If not, I won't hold it against him as a person, but rather a poor coach.

SBK
08-06-2008, 10:36 PM
I like Herm, I liked the hire, I like what he's doing.

If the o-line improves and Brody turns out decent he's going to look a lot better than he has. Last year we would have sucked with Lombardi as our coach.

KcMizzou
08-06-2008, 10:49 PM
As a person, I have to say I admire him greatly.

He gets up before anyone and runs daily. He's dutifully hardworking and he's a bright guy.

He's probably one of the hardest working people in the game, and he loves the game of football.

I don't care for his game management skills, but I do like his philosophy on building a young, resurgent team. He's a player's coach.

My only hope is, he'll not only learn to manage the game, but someday excel at it. If he doesn't, it will be his eventual downfall. You can be a great player's coach, and the hardest working individual in the game, but if you can't beat the coach on the other side of the field, you're not going to win very many games.

And that is what I believe he needs to work on the most. I do wish him well because he represents the Chiefs right now If not, I won't hold it against him as a person, but rather a poor coach.Excellent post.

You said it better than I did...

RedThat
08-06-2008, 10:49 PM
I like Herms character. I think he is a funny guy.

I really think he would do well if he has the players. The Chiefs have too many sucky players at key positions.

I really think he needs an offensive line. And a defensive line. Draft those and he be ok.

His style demands good lines on both sides of the ball. He is into that power running, short pass type of offense. That's fine, but he needs a line to do that.

His cover 2 schemes are going to demand good passrushers on the line. Im not so sure the Chiefs have a quality passrusher now that they traded JA? Hali needs to step up and has some big shoes to fill. Im hoping Dorsey can be a monster.

I like the idea of youth movement to the team. And I think his teams have a bit of a swagger to them that we didn't see from Vermeil's team. I also think his team is a bit physical.

He needs better coaches around him imo. I didn't like the playcalling last year on both offense and defense. I think they were both plain, boring, and too predictable. That has to change. Gotta keep teams guessing and throw them off. Being predictable is never a good thing.

This team lacked execution. But I think execution comes with having good players. Chiefs don't have enough good players! Thats the problem.

I also think he needs to do a better job of game planning.

alanm
08-07-2008, 12:36 AM
He's alright I guess.

The things I dont like about him is the way he tells you the team is playing well when they are flat lousy. Like you're an idiot.

He also claims to always tell the truth. But when it comes to seriousness of an injury, he always lies. LJ was week to week last season when he knew damn well he wasn't coming back. He claimed he didn't even know what was wrong with his foot for several weeks. When finally confronted about why he continued to lie about the injury for weeks to the fans and the media, he claimed "it was the best thing for the organization".

That pissed me off and lost major credibility.

Aside from that, I think he is probably a good personel man, but probably not head coach material.
Teams in general aren't going to give the media a complete injury report.
Consider yourself lucky to be able to get a report at all from Herm. Coaches like Bellicek and Shanahan won't tell the media anything unless someone has been decapitated in practice.

alanm
08-07-2008, 12:45 AM
Seriously?? DV has forgotten more X's and O's than Herm will ever learn.
I will never forgive Vermeil for Greg Robinson and the 32_efense. And for allowing it to happen.

JuicesFlowing
08-07-2008, 01:40 AM
Looking at who was available during Herm's hire, I was really glad we got him. I think it took too long to clean up the roster. I've never used Herm as the scapegoat for the losses ... just as it takes more than a coach to win a game, it takes more than a coach to lose a game. I'm glad Herm is our coach and I think we'll see a lot of wins coming our way (perhaps after this season ...)

Chiefs=Good
08-07-2008, 04:47 AM
I have to admit I like Serm, as a person and a coach.

I like his philosophy and the way he seems to be unafraid to build through the draft despite it risking his job...

I like him as a defensive coach and think that is truly the way u build a team of championship calibre.. I also think that providing he has the weapons, QB and perhaps most importantly the line, he’s fine being relatively offensive.

I agree that his game day tactics are a bit lacking... Yet he seems to be surrounding himself with knowledgeable co-ordinators and I think that is the key to his success in KC.. Oh and despite Dick Curl...

Deberg_1990
08-07-2008, 07:31 AM
I will never forgive Vermeil for Greg Robinson and the 32_efense. And for allowing it to happen.

Vermeils downfall was always his stubborn loyalty.

King_Chief_Fan
08-07-2008, 07:37 AM
Yeah, it's weird.

I tend to agree that "he just doesnt have enough gameday sense to ever get a team to a Super Bowl". (Yet, I wouldn't completely rule it out.)

But I do honestly believe that he has the ability to build a Super Bowl quality roster. (Or at least a roster that could win a couple of playoff games.)

If that makes sense.

that makes sense......He can assemble the players. He can't coach on game day. Teams led by Herm are not going to go far in playoffs.
Personally I have had enough of the clown and am eager to see him depart.

StcChief
08-07-2008, 08:09 AM
As a person, I have to say I admire him greatly.

He gets up before anyone and runs daily. He's dutifully hardworking and he's a bright guy.

He's probably one of the hardest working people in the game, and he loves the game of football.

I don't care for his game management skills, but I do like his philosophy on building a young, resurgent team. He's a player's coach.

My only hope is, he'll not only learn to manage the game, but someday excel at it. If he doesn't, it will be his eventual downfall. You can be a great player's coach, and the hardest working individual in the game, but if you can't beat the coach on the other side of the field, you're not going to win very many games.

And that is what I believe he needs to work on the most. I do wish him well because he represents the Chiefs right now If not, I won't hold it against him as a person, but rather a poor coach.no doubt....

"hardest working man in the business" but needs to learn how coach at game time.

Demonpenz
08-07-2008, 08:28 AM
I love herman edwards. He got us to the playoffs his FIRST year. Then he has the guts to tear down this program and rebuild it. I love his style of coaching. Defense wins Superbowls

ROYC75
08-07-2008, 09:05 AM
GoCowtipping.

OK, I have heard this twice in the last week, WTF is that ?

ROYC75
08-07-2008, 09:06 AM
If he would learn from his mistakes, by 2015 he might be a good HC, but not right now.

Rausch
08-07-2008, 09:10 AM
I love herman edwards. He got us to the playoffs his FIRST year. Then he has the guts to tear down this program and rebuild it. I love his style of coaching. Defense wins Superbowls

I agree with most of this. His gameday decisions are $#it.

When he has time to plan and think I like what he does. He knows talent, attitude, aptitude, and value.

But then championchips are won on snap decisions, aren't they?...

Skip Towne
08-07-2008, 09:14 AM
I love herman edwards. He got us to the playoffs his FIRST year. Then he has the guts to tear down this program and rebuild it. I love his style of coaching. Defense wins Superbowls

Herm also engineered a nine game losing streak (so far). Who was the last Chiefs HC to do that?

Rausch
08-07-2008, 09:20 AM
Herm also engineered a nine game losing streak (so far). Who was the last Chiefs HC to do that?

Oh, nice.

Ok, who were the only 3 HC's that suffered 9 or more straight losses and later lead their team to a SB?

tooge
08-07-2008, 09:26 AM
Heh. Hi everyone. My name is Tooge, and I like Herman Edwards as a coach (applause).

Rausch
08-07-2008, 09:32 AM
Heh. Hi everyone. My name is Tooge, and I like Herman Edwards as a coach (applause).

You broke up a heated argument for this?

http://rdr.zazzle.com/img/imt-prd/pd-235245230846271863/isz-m/

tooge
08-07-2008, 09:37 AM
Sorry, the mood was just sort of AA sounding. You know, admitting to something that you have been in denial about

el borracho
08-07-2008, 09:51 AM
52-60 (likely 56-72 by next January). Herm sucks.

Chiefnj2
08-07-2008, 09:55 AM
Herm knows talent. That is why he brought in Nap Harris, Ty Law, Edwards, Reed, and Terry.

HemiEd
08-07-2008, 10:04 AM
i agree, i think vermiels selfish mindset of a win now philosophy set us back which is part of the reason why we are where we are now. I might add that win now philosophy got us 1 playoff berth.

That is what DV was hired to do, win now.

Herm ****ing Edwards is a ****ing embisile, total ****ing idiot. His train aint never leaving the ****ing station, get over it, he aint winning the game.

beach tribe
08-07-2008, 10:09 AM
Herm knows talent. That is why he brought in Nap Harris, Ty Law, Edwards, Reed, and Terry.

I like Herm..... a little, but this talent guru shit has got to stop. He was in NY for 5 yrs, and left them barren.

None(besides Bowe) of his Chiefs picks have proven shit, and in his entire HC career, he has found IIRC 1 probowler.


I like THE DIRECTION Herm is going, and if he wins a meaningful game in KC, I will stand behind him, but so far, he has shown horrible gameday coaching, and our picks, have yet to do squat. Tamba, Turk, Tank, Pollard, are all ???. God I hope they come into their own this year.:grovel:

Demonpenz
08-07-2008, 10:13 AM
Herm has really brought back the attitude on defense. No longer do we prance around we go up and hit people.

HemiEd
08-07-2008, 10:13 AM
Herm knows talent. That is why he brought in Nap Harris, Ty Law, Edwards, Reed, and Terry.

He is genious.

Skip Towne
08-07-2008, 10:32 AM
Oh, nice.

Ok, who were the only 3 HC's that suffered 9 or more straight losses and later lead their team to a SB?

Herm has the losing part covered.

ROYC75
08-07-2008, 10:40 AM
I don't like Herm as a HC and I'm not afraid to say it ..............


Wheee, Glad to get that off my chest.

vailpass
08-07-2008, 10:43 AM
I like Herm Edwards as the Chiefs coach, I like him a lot.

Reerun_KC
08-07-2008, 10:51 AM
Herm knows talent. That is why he brought in Nap Harris, Ty Law, Edwards, Reed, and Terry.
If he is such a fuching genious, then why let Hall go infavor of Drummond?

Reerun_KC
08-07-2008, 10:52 AM
Herm has really brought back the attitude on defense. No longer do we prance around we go up and hit people.
Now the offense prances around to get into FG range...

One extreme to the other.

Reerun_KC
08-07-2008, 10:53 AM
I like Herm Edwards as the Chiefs coach, I like him a lot.
Well hell yeah you do, His teams are a threat to the Division. He can easly be out coached.....

Bill Lundberg
08-07-2008, 11:01 AM
If he is such a fuching genious, then why let Hall go infavor of Drummond?


Duh... It was so we could draft that awesome kicker from UCLA. What was his name?

Oh, and what did Hall do last year for the Rams? Not much.

Reerun_KC
08-07-2008, 11:09 AM
Duh... It was so we could draft that awesome kicker from UCLA. What was his name?

Oh, and what did Hall do last year for the Rams? Not much.
Well even though he was injured most of the year, didnt Hall take one back? Drummond never got close to mid field.

Oh yeah, that kicker.. Um... You know the one!

CosmicPal
08-07-2008, 11:12 AM
Oh yeah, that kicker.. Um... You know the one!

Are we not supposed to say his name on here anymore? You know, like that other kicker we had in the 90's.

Reerun_KC
08-07-2008, 11:13 AM
Are we not supposed to say his name on here anymore? You know, like that other kicker we had in the 90's.
Nope wrong kicker, this is the draft picked kicker from last year!

Bill Lundberg
08-07-2008, 12:00 PM
Nope wrong kicker, this is the draft picked kicker from last year!

This is pretty funny because although I could look it up, I can't for the life of me remember his name.ROFL