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banyon
08-06-2008, 06:10 PM
GAO: Iraq could have $79 billion budget surplus


http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/iraq/20080805-1914-us-iraqsurplus.html

By Pauline Jelinek
ASSOCIATED PRESS

7:14 p.m. August 5, 2008

WASHINGTON – The Iraqi government could end the year with as much as a $79 billion budget surplus as ever-increasing oil revenues pile on top of leftover income the Iraqis still haven't spent on their national rebuilding effort, congressional auditors say.
A report by the Government Accountability Office made public Tuesday prompted renewed calls from senators that Baghdad pay more of the bill for its own reconstruction, which has been heavily supported with U.S. funds.


The projected Iraq surplus, including unspent money from 2005 through 2008, has been building because of rising world oil prices, increasing Iraqi oil production, the government's inability to execute budgets for spending its money and persistent violence in the country, the GAO said.
The report was requested by Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Sen. John Warner, R-Va., the chairman and ranking member, respectively, of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

“The Iraqi government now has tens of billions of dollars at its disposal to fund large-scale reconstruction projects,” Levin said in a statement. “It is inexcusable for U.S. taxpayers to continue to foot the bill for projects the Iraqis are fully capable of funding themselves.”

“It is time for the sovereign government of Iraq, using its revenues, expenditures and surpluses, to fully assume the responsibility to provide essential services and improve the quality of life for the Iraqi people,” Warner said.

The GAO said Iraq had an estimated cumulative budget surplus of about $29 billion from 2005 to 2007 and could have another surplus of up to $50 billion this year.

The expected surplus could be lower if Iraq passes stalled legislation for a $22 billion supplemental budget for 2008 – and if the government then executes the budget.

But the report noted oft-repeated factors holding the government back on its spending plans.

“First ... (the) relative shortage of trained budgetary, procurement and other staff with the necessary technical skills as a factor limiting the Iraqi government's ability to plan and execute its capital spending,” the GAO said, adding that a second problem is the government's weak accounting systems.

“Third ... violence and sectarian strife remain major obstacles to developing Iraqi government capacity,” it said.

The report also estimated that this year Iraq could generate $67 billion to $79 billion in oil sales. Other U.S. officials previously had said they expected the oil windfall to be about $70 billion.

“This substantial increase in revenues offers the Iraqi government the potential to better finance its own security and economic needs,” the GAO said.

Since 2005, the United States has funded a number of efforts to teach civilian and security ministries how to effectively execute their budgets.

The efforts included programs to advise and help Iraqi government employees develop the skills to plan programs and to effectively deliver government services such as electricity, water and security.

Hydrae
08-06-2008, 06:12 PM
Cool, a new place to borrow our money from instead of the Chinese!

banyon
08-06-2008, 06:13 PM
“Iraq has oil,” Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told Fortune magazine in 2002, discussing the potential cost of an Iraq invasion and how it would be met. “They have financial resources.”

Paul Wolfowitz, formerly Rumsfeld’s deputy, was bolder: “The oil revenues of that country could bring in between $50 (billion) and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years,” he told Congress as the war began. “We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction.” For his economic acumen, Wolfowitz was rewarded with the presidency of the World Bank.

http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=236508

banyon
08-06-2008, 06:15 PM
And in an odd financial twist, a large amount of the surplus money is sitting in an American bank in New York ---- nearly $10 billion at the end of 2007, with more expected this year, when the accountability office estimates a skyrocketing surplus.

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/08/06/news/nation/zdd426c4e9521665c8825749d0004b426.txt

VAChief
08-06-2008, 06:18 PM
Remember when the Republicans were truly "conservative" with our money, especially in regards to other countries?

banyon
08-06-2008, 06:20 PM
I can't wait to see who steps up to defend the status quo for this garbage.

Bugeater
08-06-2008, 06:23 PM
Wasn't the original plan to use oil proceeds to rebuild the country? The way I understood it was that we weren't supposed to pay for it in the first place. I must be misremembering something.

banyon
08-06-2008, 06:27 PM
Wasn't the original plan to use oil proceeds to rebuild the country? The way I understood it was that we weren't supposed to pay for it in the first place. I must be misremembering something.

That's why I included the quote in post number 3, but there were others.

banyon
08-06-2008, 06:34 PM
Also got a kick out of this line:

Since 2005, the United States has funded a number of efforts to teach civilian and security ministries how to effectively execute their budgets.

Maybe our Congress could audit some of those classes?

Adam
08-06-2008, 07:58 PM
A surplus?!! A ****ING SURPLUS?!!?!?! Holy ****ing shit. Leave NOW! Leave YESTERDAY!

Pitt Gorilla
08-06-2008, 10:03 PM
Well, it's a start; we'll be taking that, thank you.

banyon
08-08-2008, 05:00 PM
Wow. Not even the hardcore Bushies can defend this?

Donger
08-08-2008, 05:29 PM
Don't they have a lot of foreign debt, too? I think they owe Kuwait something like $30 billion.

Donger
08-08-2008, 05:32 PM
"Iraq has $79 billion surplus"

Not according to the article you posted.

"The GAO said Iraq had an estimated cumulative budget surplus of about $29 billion from 2005 to 2007 and could have another surplus of up to $50 billion this year."

Sounds like they've got $29 billion and could have another $50 billion.

banyon
08-08-2008, 05:33 PM
Don't they have a lot of foreign debt, too? I think they owe Kuwait something like $30 billion.

I guess they can handle that now no problem, thanks to our tax $.

Donger
08-08-2008, 05:36 PM
I guess they can handle that now no problem, thanks to our tax $.

Where did you come up with the $1 billion figure?

banyon
08-09-2008, 09:49 AM
Where did you come up with the $1 billion figure?

The United States has put about $48 billion toward reconstruction since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, auditors reported. About $23 billion of that was spent on the oil and electricity industries, water systems and security.

Iraq spent $3.9 billion on those sectors from 2005 through April 2008, according to the GAO, the investigative arm of Congress. The ongoing fighting there, a shortage of trained staff and weak controls have made it difficult for the Iraqi government to spend its surplus on needed projects, the agency's report concluded.

Levin, a Michigan Democrat, has been an outspoken critic of the slow progress of reconstruction and an advocate of a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. His criticism Tuesday was echoed by Sen. John Warner, a Virginia Republican who is the former chairman and now a leading member of Levin's committee.


"Despite Iraq earning billions of dollars in oil revenue in the past five years, U.S. taxpayer money has been the overwhelming source of Iraq reconstruction funds," Warner said in a joint statement with Levin. "It is time for the sovereign government of Iraq, using its revenues, expenditures and surpluses, to fully assume the responsibility to provide essential services and improve the quality of life for the Iraqi people."

In its written response to the audit report, the Treasury Department said U.S. officials are working with Iraqis to address the issue, "and we believe progress is being made."


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/05/iraq.oil/?iref=hpmostpop


(I was watching CNN when I heard this before my post)

irishjayhawk
08-09-2008, 10:37 AM
Good to know my tax dollars are being put to good use!

Adam
08-09-2008, 11:53 AM
Don't they have a lot of foreign debt, too? I think they owe Kuwait something like $30 billion.

Yes, by all means pay Kuwait. FIRST THINGS FIRST.

VAChief
08-09-2008, 12:56 PM
Yes, by all means pay Kuwait. FIRST THINGS FIRST.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL