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FAX
08-07-2008, 07:32 AM
So ... Fa-Va-Rah is going to be a Jetski. All well and good. In turn, however, the odds that Pennington will soon be a Chief have increased dramatically. Assuming for a moment that the Chadster joins our beloved team, what effect would this move have on Croyle and the team as a whole? Will Croyle sense additional pressure to perform and respond positively? Will he fold like an origami addict in a windstorm? Will LJ call for Chad to start? Will Herm admit that he is secretly in love with Pennington? Will Carl invite Chad to his office to peruse his engravings?

Please post your views on this matter in this awesome thread. 100 or so opinions will suffice.

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the Talking Can
08-07-2008, 07:35 AM
i'll kill you for even asking

Mr. Plow
08-07-2008, 07:37 AM
It has only been a matter of time since Chad Pennington joins the Chiefs.

FAX
08-07-2008, 07:50 AM
i'll kill you for even asking

Simmah!! Simmah down na!!!

It's a discussion board, Mr. the Talking Can. I'm discussionating.

I'm just wondering what effect, either negative or positive, the acquisition of Pennington might have on the team. I mean, bringing in a new quarterback is kind of a big deal. Especially one with game experience and a past relationship with the head coach. I don't think Hermoine will end the Croyle experiment. In fact, it might be the best thing for Croyle to feel some pressure. It might help his focus.

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mlyonsd
08-07-2008, 07:51 AM
I might kill myself if it happens.

DaKCMan AP
08-07-2008, 08:01 AM
"Will the Chiefs sign Chad Pennington" should be added to the casino.

I'd bet no.

tmax63
08-07-2008, 08:04 AM
I don't see him coming to the Chiefs unless he'll play for HE for free and they can save a buttload of money cutting DH.

BigRedChief
08-07-2008, 08:10 AM
I might kill myself if it happens.
Why? You think Huard is any better?

Croyle is herm's QB. It's too late to unhitch that wagon. He's got to give him this whole year and if he is still running for his life this year the chance to prove himself goes into next year also.

HonestChieffan
08-07-2008, 08:17 AM
I planted Pennington Grass Seed a few years ago. Its pretty cool and they dye it green. There is no Croyle grass seed even available.

That tells me a lot.

InChiefsHell
08-07-2008, 08:18 AM
What will happen? Well, Thigpen will be relegated to third on the depth chart, Chad at number 2, and Huard will be sent packing, damn the contract. It ain't THAT much in the grander scheme of things...and I think Pennington > Huard, so it probably wouldn't be a bad thing...

FAX
08-07-2008, 08:20 AM
"Will the Chiefs sign Chad Pennington" should be added to the casino.

I'd bet no.

You may be right, Mr. DaKCMan AP. I hope you're right. Herm may recognize that Pennington's signing could well disrupt the team at this point. On the one hand, competitive pressure from the sideline is desirable. In this case, however, Herm has to demonstrate a commitment to Croyle and Pennington's acquisition would, to some degree, fracture the perception of that commitment. Of course, there's the other issue involving Croyle's ability to be healthy for all 16 games.

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Uncle_Ted
08-07-2008, 08:20 AM
OK, I'll bite:

1) He's better than Huard
2) He's better than Thigpen
3) He might be better than Croyle
4) I don't like the idea of our backup QB being an undrafted FA from last year
5) Having a quality backup if/when Brodie misses one or more games allows the rest of our team to continue growing around the veteran QB rather than just idling (or regressing) until Croyle returns
6) One of our 2 backups needs to be a veteran QB. See (1) above.

If Huard is stinking it up in camp as much as I've heard, then dumping him in favor of Pennington is a no-brainer. The only question is whether Chad would be willing to be a true backup, or whether he'd rather go somewhere where he might have a better shot at playing. I see him as being #3 on the depth chart so Thigpen gets the #2 snaps in practice, but in the event of an injury to Croyle, Pennington would play depending on the timing and nature of the injury (and the status of Thigpen's preparation).

DaKCMan AP
08-07-2008, 08:26 AM
OK, I'll bite:

1) He's better than Huard
2) He's better than Thigpen
3) He might be better than Croyle
4) I don't like the idea of our backup QB being an undrafted FA from last year
5) Having a quality backup if/when Brodie misses one or more games allows the rest of our team to continue growing around the veteran QB rather than just idling (or regressing) until Croyle returns
6) One of our 2 backups needs to be a veteran QB. See (1) above.

If Huard is stinking it up in camp as much as I've heard, then dumping him in favor of Pennington is a no-brainer. The only question is whether Chad would be willing to be a true backup, or whether he'd rather go somewhere where he might have a better shot at playing. I see him as being #3 on the depth chart so Thigpen gets the #2 snaps in practice, but in the event of an injury to Croyle, Pennington would play depending on the timing and nature of the injury (and the status of Thigpen's preparation).

While I think Huard is worthless, I'm fine having a vet on this year's squad as long as he sucks - like Huard. I don't want Brodie looking over his shoulder THIS YEAR. Additionally, in the event that Brodie does get injured I'd rather have Thigpen play and go through some growing pains than watch the team try to play .500 ball with Pennington.

FAX
08-07-2008, 08:27 AM
What will happen? Well, Thigpen will be relegated to third on the depth chart, Chad at number 2, and Huard will be sent packing, damn the contract. It ain't THAT much in the grander scheme of things...and I think Pennington > Huard, so it probably wouldn't be a bad thing...

The "bad thing", Mr. InChiefsHell, is the fact that Pennington and Herm have a history. He was Herm's starting quarterback. Croyle might well feel as though Herm's confidence in him is wavering and quarterbacks need to know that their HC is behind them 100 percent.

It's like your wife inviting an old lover to dinner. Bad juju no matter how you look at it.

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mlyonsd
08-07-2008, 08:28 AM
Why? You think Huard is any better?

Croyle is herm's QB. It's too late to unhitch that wagon. He's got to give him this whole year and if he is still running for his life this year the chance to prove himself goes into next year also.

I agree on Croyle.

But if Croyle and Thigpen don't pan out I don't want Huard or Pennington either. I've seen enough of the latter two to think there's got to be a better direction to turn than them.

Skip Towne
08-07-2008, 08:33 AM
What happened to Tulsa's Paul Smith? I'd give him a chance before I would Pennington.

the Talking Can
08-07-2008, 08:34 AM
Simmah!! Simmah down na!!!

It's a discussion board, Mr. the Talking Can. I'm discussionating.

I'm just wondering what effect, either negative or positive, the acquisition of Pennington might have on the team. I mean, bringing in a new quarterback is kind of a big deal. Especially one with game experience and a past relationship with the head coach. I don't think Hermoine will end the Croyle experiment. In fact, it might be the best thing for Croyle to feel some pressure. It might help his focus.

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but you know what will happen, we all do...


the first time Croyle misses a start and Pennington plays, the media will start the controversy and Herm will start remembering the good old days, and Herm will think he sees an escape from the firing that awaits him in two years, and ta-da!! Pennington is now our starter....


after 15 YEARS of this CRAP...after 15 YEARS of playing washed up vet QBs only to go 8-8, 9-7 we're going to go right back!....

we'll win a couple of meaningless games with Pennington and finish 6-10 instead of 4-12...then next year we'll be 8-8, the year after we'll be 9-7...but we'll never get over the hump with a now 35 yr old QB with a vagina for an arm....

the True Fans are already salivating, Carl is sporting wood, and Herm is waking up at night after wierd erotic dreams involving Pennington and 99 play scoring drives on a whipped cream covered field...

all the pain of rebuilding, of developing a QB, will be magically waved away by the promise of yet another piece of shit vet QB...all to soothe the True Fans and Carl...all to remain Mediocre forever...FOREVER....

and you know I am right...

the only way to avoid this is to avoid Pennington completely

*edit*

i realize i'm hysterical about this, but my reaction is grounded in the facts of the pathetic history of carl and this franchise..

Mr. Plow
08-07-2008, 08:35 AM
While I think Huard is worthless, I'm fine having a vet on this year's squad as long as he sucks - like Huard. I don't want Brodie looking over his shoulder THIS YEAR. Additionally, in the event that Brodie does get injured I'd rather have Thigpen play and go through some growing pains than watch the team try to play .500 ball with Pennington.


Winna Winna Chicken Dinna!

BigRedChief
08-07-2008, 08:39 AM
It would only be a QB controversy if someone plays better than the other QB and is not starting. When you are playing like chit the back up QB is always popular.

Bottom line: Pennington has to be better than Huard.

mlyonsd
08-07-2008, 08:41 AM
the True Fans are already salivating, Carl is sporting wood, and Herm is waking up at night after wierd erotic dreams involving Pennington and 99 play scoring drives on a whipped cream covered field...


I didn't need that visual......Thanks.

DaKCMan AP
08-07-2008, 08:43 AM
It would only be a QB controversy if someone plays better than the other QB and is not starting. When you are playing like chit the back up QB is always popular.

Bottom line: Pennington has to be better than Huard.

No one is arguing that Huard is a better QB than Pennington. However, that alone is not reason enough to bring him in.

King_Chief_Fan
08-07-2008, 08:43 AM
Why? You think Huard is any better?

Croyle is herm's QB. It's too late to unhitch that wagon. He's got to give him this whole year and if he is still running for his life this year the chance to prove himself goes into next year also.

huh? I think it is this year only. I don't want another year of we have to wait to see what we have at QB. After this year, we will know.

Reerun_KC
08-07-2008, 08:44 AM
but you know what will happen, we all do...


the first time Croyle misses a start and Pennington plays, the media will start the controversy and Herm will start remembering the good old days, and Herm will think he sees an escape from the firing that awaits him in two years, and ta-da!! Pennington is now our starter....


after 15 YEARS of this CRAP...after 15 YEARS of playing washed up vet QBs only to go 8-8, 9-7 we're going to go right back!....

we'll win a couple of meaningless games with Pennington and finish 6-10 instead of 4-12...then next year we'll be 8-8, the year after we'll be 9-7...but we'll never get over the hump with a now 35 yr old QB with a vagina for an arm....

the True Fans are already salivating, Carl is sporting wood, and Herm is waking up at night after wierd erotic dreams involving Pennington and 99 play scoring drives on a whipped cream covered field...

all the pain of rebuilding, of developing a QB, will be magically waved away by the promise of yet another piece of shit vet QB...all to soothe the True Fans and Carl...all to remain Mediocre forever...FOREVER....

and you know I am right...

the only way to avoid this is to avoid Pennington completely

*edit*

i realize i'm hysterical about this, but my reaction is grounded in the facts of the pathetic history of carl and this franchise..

Truly sad how pathetic the Chiefs have become....

Hopefully Herm will be fired soon and we will have something to get excited about.

the Talking Can
08-07-2008, 08:45 AM
No one is arguing that Huard is a better QB than Pennington. However, that alone is not reason enough to bring him in.

:clap:

FAX
08-07-2008, 08:45 AM
but you know what will happen, we all do...


the first time Croyle misses a start and Pennington plays, the media will start the controversy and Herm will start remembering the good old days, and Herm will think he sees an escape from the firing that awaits him in two years, and ta-da!! Pennington is now our starter....


after 15 YEARS of this CRAP...after 15 YEARS of playing washed up vet QBs only to go 8-8, 9-7 we're going to go right back!....

we'll win a couple of meaningless games with Pennington and finish 6-10 instead of 4-12...then next year we'll be 8-8, the year after we'll be 9-7...but we'll never get over the hump with a now 35 yr old QB with a vagina for an arm....

the True Fans are already salivating, Carl is sporting wood, and Herm is waking up at night after wierd erotic dreams involving Pennington and 99 play scoring drives on a whipped cream covered field...

all the pain of rebuilding, of developing a QB, will be magically waved away by the promise of yet another piece of shit vet QB...all to soothe the True Fans and Carl...all to remain Mediocre forever...FOREVER....

and you know I am right...

the only way to avoid this is to avoid Pennington completely

That is the 500 pound Rhonda Moss in the room, to be sure, Mr. the Talking Can. Some in the media (that KK numbskull comes to mind) are already calling Croyle a bust. As you say, all it will take is for Croyle to go down with an injury, his backup to win an ugly game, and the controversy will begin in earnest. Nevertheless, right now Croyle has the opportunity to demonstrate growth, development, and potential. If he does that, Herm may exhibit the patience he's always bragging about and stick with Croyle until he realizes that potential.

I'm in agreement that Pennington might be a mistake for that reason. Still, Croyle might respond to his signing by working just a little harder, focusing just a little more, and playing just a little better. That's the unknown.

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Reerun_KC
08-07-2008, 08:47 AM
It would only be a QB controversy if someone plays better than the other QB and is not starting. When you are playing like chit the back up QB is always popular.

Bottom line: Pennington has to be better than Huard.

Pennington has the arm strength of Huard.. They are one in the same.. We gain nothing, actually get worse (if that is possible) by bringing in Pennington.

Playing Pennington at anypoint in the season, would set us back another 2 years at least. But the way Herm believes in protecting his QB's having 4 on the active roster might not be a bad thing...

BigRedChief
08-07-2008, 08:49 AM
Pennington has the arm strength of Huard.. They are one in the same.. We gain nothing, actually get worse (if that is possible) by bringing in Pennington.

Playing Pennington at anypoint in the season, would set us back another 2 years at least. But the way Herm believes in protecting his QB's having 4 on the active roster might not be a bad thing...
We will be set back 2 years because Croyle was a bust not because Pennington was on our team.

FAX
08-07-2008, 08:56 AM
We will be set back 2 years because Croyle was a bust not because Pennington was on our team.

Exactly so. Croyle's a big boy. It shouldn't really matter if we sign Fa-Va-Rah, or Manning, or Batman to back him up. It's his team for the moment and it's up to him to demonstrate that he has what it takes to lead a team into the playoffs. After last year, surely he realizes that he has to win the starting role and play well in order to keep it. Otherwise, he's holding a clipboard and watching some fool like Downfield fling weebles. We need a quarterback who wins games regardless of who's waiting in the wings - not someone who worries about losing his job.

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Rain Man
08-07-2008, 09:08 AM
I bet Pennington gets traded to the Cardinals, which will free them up to trade Leinert to the Titans, who will trade Vince Young to the Bears, who will release Rex Grossman, who will sign with the Panthers, who will release Jake Delhomme, who will sign with the Browns, who will trade Brady Quinn to the Dolphins, who will release....their quarterback...who will sign with the Packers, who will trade Aaron Rodgers to the Bears, who will release Kyle Orton, who will sign with the Broncos, who will trade Jay Cutler to the Giants, who will trade Eli Manning to the Chargers, who will trade Philip Rivers to the Saints, who will trade Drew Brees to the Giants, who will then trade him immediately to the Steelers, who will trade Ben Roethlisberger to the Colts, who will then trade Peyton Manning to the Patriots, who will then trade Tom Brady to us, and we'll then trade Tom Brady to the Redskins for Jason Campbell because Carl Peterson knows Jason Campbell's agent and he doesn't know Tom Brady's agent and he doesn't want to have to negotiate with someone he doesn't know since it'll take too much time.

FAX
08-07-2008, 09:16 AM
A darn fine job of speculationating there, Mr. Rain Man. Darn fine.

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Rain Man
08-07-2008, 09:28 AM
I always keep one ear to the ground.

DeezNutz
08-07-2008, 09:34 AM
Herm will give Pennington some time to see if the Vikes want to sign him as their starter. When this doesn't happen, hello KC. Croyle will likely get dinged up in the preseason and will be down with full-blown swollness by week 8, at which point Pennington will take over.

In all seriousness, I don't think it will take us the entire season to realize that Croyle is not capable of being the starting QB for this team. Injuries will likely play a role in this.

Rausch
08-07-2008, 09:36 AM
I always keep one ear to the ground.

He's even expanded his range to car commercials.

That's why they pay him the big bucks folks...

HypnotizedMonkey
08-07-2008, 09:55 AM
peruse his engravings? lol

I think Pennington will go to the Dolphins or Bucs. Maybe Chicago.

If he goes to the Chiefs and Huard is cut... Favre will be the proverbial finger that triggers the domino effect... which would be awesome.

Do you think they are going to start printing the Madden 09 cover with Favre in a Jets jersey?

tooge
08-07-2008, 10:35 AM
Dont hesitate
to speculate
on the fate
of Brodie's teamate
Just dont hate
he could be great
if Brodie deteriorates
he could validate
and insulate
and Carl could skate
fans may have to wait
another 30 years for a superbowl date

Micjones
08-07-2008, 10:38 AM
Pennington will join this team and Croyle will have a shorter leash because of it.

cdcox
08-07-2008, 11:08 AM
The Chiefs have 3 QB slots. If they sign Pennington, he's going to occupy one of them for a number of years. If we sign him Pennington could become our starter after Brodie gets injured or busts out cause Herm thinks he is good enough, or having Pennington as a back up might keep the Chiefs from acquiring a different back up who matures into someone really wonderful. I don't want Pennington anywhere near the Chiefs, especially with Herm coaching.

Just becuase Chad would be the best or second best QB on our roster this year does not mean that signing him would be best for the team in the long run.