View Full Version : General Politics John Edwards Love Child!
Deberg_1990
08-07-2008, 08:36 AM
Now with pics! ROFL
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/exclusive_john_edwards_love_child_photos/celebrity/65258
The NATIONAL ENQUIRER is releasing the photograph that the world has been waiting for – the first-ever picture of John Edwards and his love child!
The stunning “spy photo” shows the former presidential contender holding his infant daughter Frances Quinn Hunter at the Beverly Hilton hotel in Los Angeles – where the ENQUIRER caught him visiting the baby’s mother, his mistress Rielle Hunter.
Edwards is holding his love child while standing in front of a distinctive striped curtain.
The same window covering hangs in each one of the hotel’s guest rooms – and is clearly visible in photos of guest rooms on the hotel’s Web site.
“These photos are damning proof,” said a source close to the situation.
“He’s been caught lying about his affair with Rielle and their love child for many months – and now the proof against him is piling up.
“His elaborate coverup is unraveling at the seams.”
SHTSPRAYER
08-07-2008, 08:56 AM
I wonder why the MSM isn't covering this? I guess because he's not an R hanging out in airport men's rooms.
ROYC75
08-07-2008, 09:22 AM
Damn, just think of it , Meme would of had the baby for 14,000.00 per month instead of the 15,000.00 per month rumored.
Sully
08-07-2008, 09:24 AM
This is going to absolutely kill his chances in the primary.
SHTSPRAYER
08-07-2008, 09:29 AM
This is going to absolutely kill his chances in the primary.
Oh go cry some more about George Allen.
:deevee:
Chief Henry
08-07-2008, 09:31 AM
I wonder why the MSM isn't covering this? I guess because he's not an R hanging out in airport men's rooms.
The MSM panders to one side of the political spectrum hands down...
Deberg_1990
08-07-2008, 09:33 AM
Its nice to see the faithfullness, love and support he has provided to his wife during her cancer problems. :)
Sully
08-07-2008, 09:34 AM
Oh go cry some more about George Allen.
:deevee:
When was I crying about George Allen?
Why are you so dishonest?
HonestChieffan
08-07-2008, 09:37 AM
How can John Edwards be news in any case?
SHTSPRAYER
08-07-2008, 09:39 AM
When was I crying about George Allen?
Why are you so dishonest?
He said macaca!
:deevee:
Sully
08-07-2008, 09:43 AM
He said macaca!
:deevee:
When did I cry about that?
SHTSPRAYER
08-07-2008, 10:26 AM
Michelle Obama has an underbite.
Michelle Obama has an underbite.
SHTSPRAYER, I am only saying this because I care -- there's a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market that are just as tasty as the real thing.
whatsmynameagain
08-07-2008, 10:36 AM
mccains vp?
national enquirer huh? excellent source
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Deberg_1990
08-07-2008, 12:35 PM
national enquirer huh? excellent source
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Actually, they are very good at what they do, sleazy as it may be.
They break a ton of stories.
Midnight_Vulture
08-07-2008, 12:48 PM
How are the libs gonna spin this one???
"Ummm its Fox News fault! They set the whole thing up! They even poked holes in the condoms!"
Hahaha just another stand up lib. What a disgrace of a party they are.
HolmeZz
08-07-2008, 12:51 PM
John Edwards is an idiot, but did any of you bother to look at the pictures? It's Edwards in hospital scrubs.
National Enquirer has been pushing this story for months now, and to no avail.
Jenson71
08-07-2008, 12:57 PM
I really liked John Edwards.
Donger
08-07-2008, 12:58 PM
John Edwards is an idiot, but did any of you bother to look at the pictures? It's Edwards in hospital scrubs.
National Enquirer has been pushing this story for months now, and to no avail.
What's your point?
HolmeZz
08-07-2008, 01:01 PM
What's your point?
Uh, why the hell is John Edwards soaked and in hospital scrubs if he's having a "secret" meeting with his mistress and love child at a Beverly Hills hotel?
Jenson71
08-07-2008, 01:02 PM
I'd still vote for him in any election.
Donger
08-07-2008, 01:03 PM
Uh, why the hell is John Edwards soaked and in hospital scrubs if he's having a "secret" meeting with his mistress and love child at a Beverly Hills hotel?
So you think this story is false?
HolmeZz
08-07-2008, 01:16 PM
So you think this story is false?
The pictures and the story behind them are clearly.
Whether or not John Edwards has had an affair is a different matter and one that should be a topic of discussion if there was any validity to the accusations. Unnamed sources in tabloids are definitely not grounds for that though. It's unbelievably sleazy, particularly when he has two young children and a wife at home recovering from cancer.
Stinger
08-07-2008, 01:36 PM
national enquirer huh? excellent source
Jesse Jackson agrees
Deberg_1990
08-07-2008, 01:39 PM
The pictures and the story behind them are clearly.
Whether or not John Edwards has had an affair is a different matter and one that should be a topic of discussion if there was any validity to the accusations. Unnamed sources in tabloids are definitely not grounds for that though. It's unbelievably sleazy, particularly when he has two young children and a wife at home recovering from cancer.
Why doesnt Edwards come out and refute the accusation's?
Sully
08-07-2008, 01:40 PM
This actually does sting a little. I was hoping Edwards would be our next AG. But this would probably derail that.
HolmeZz
08-07-2008, 01:45 PM
Why doesnt Edwards come out and refute the accusation's?
1) You're generally only lending credence to the story if you give it even more media attention. It is nothing more than a tabloid story now.
2) The people who already want to believe this aren't going to have their minds changed by anything he says.
bkkcoh
08-07-2008, 01:48 PM
This actually does sting a little. I was hoping Edwards would be our next AG. But this would probably derail that.
I don't think McCain would nominate him for AG! Do you really think he would?
Sully
08-07-2008, 01:51 PM
I don't think McCain would nominate him for AG! Do you really think he would?
:D
You missed the over/under on that joke, set diligently by Vegas oddsmakers and three dwarves under my stairs, by about 12 seconds. Nice try, though!:p
little jacob
08-07-2008, 02:47 PM
Why doesnt Edwards come out and refute the accusation's?
if they were false he'd be suing rather than hiding from reports in bathroom stalls
Dave Lane
08-07-2008, 05:14 PM
Its nice to see the faithfullness, love and support he has provided to his wife during her cancer problems. :)
You talking McCain here or ???
Dave
Pennywise
08-08-2008, 02:11 PM
psst!
Check out the headlines on Drudge...
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 02:18 PM
He's the kind of Democrat meme could vote for, unlike that rotten Obama guy.
Hopefully the media kills him for this.
Donger
08-08-2008, 02:21 PM
He's the kind of Democrat meme could vote for, unlike that rotten Obama guy.
Hopefully the media kills him for this.
Still think the story is "clearly false," HolmeZz?
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 02:25 PM
Still think the story is "clearly false," HolmeZz?
Are you retarded? Do yourself a favor and re-read my post. I was talking about the pictures. I said whether or not Edwards had an affair deserved to be discussed if verifiable sources making the accusation stepped forward.
Donger
08-08-2008, 02:28 PM
Are you retarded? Do yourself a favor and re-read my post. I was talking about the pictures. I said whether or not Edwards had an affair deserved to be discussed if verifiable sources making the accusation stepped forward.
It was a simple question. He has now admitted to the affair. So, do you still think that the story behind the NE article is clearly false? In other words, that he didn't father a child with this woman?
Baby Lee
08-08-2008, 02:28 PM
Well the affair is admitted, and the lies to the media are copped to, first person.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 02:28 PM
My thoughts are with Elizabeth. I wish she could battle her disease in peace and her time on earth to be as pain free as possible but apparently that was too much to ask for or for her husband to give her, prick. I am so sorry for her.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/abc_edwards_admits_affair.php
ABC: Edwards Admits Affair
By Greg Sargent - August 8, 2008, 3:11PM
ABC News has the story from John Edwards himself:
John Edwards repeatedly lied during his Presidential campaign about an extramarital affair with a novice filmmaker, the former Senator admitted to ABC News today.
In an interview for broadcast tonight on Nightline, Edwards told ABC News correspondent Bob Woodruff he did have an affair with 42-year old Rielle Hunter, but said that he did not love her.
Edwards also denied he was the father of Hunter's baby girl, Frances Quinn, although the one-time Democratic Presidential candidate said he has not taken a paternity test.
Edwards said he knew he was not the father based on timing of the baby's birth on February 27, 2008. He said his affair ended too soon for him to have been the father.
Edwards claimed in the interview that the affair began before his wife Elizabeth Edwards' cancer relapse...
Edwards made a point of telling Woodruff that his wife's cancer was in remission when he began the affair with Hunter.
But the affair apparently continued well after her relapse had become publicly known:
Edwards today admitted the National Enquirer was correct when it reported he had visited Hunter at the Beverly Hills Hilton last month.This obviously kills any hopes he had of speaking at the convention, if such hopes still even existed any longer in recent days.
RaiderH8r
08-08-2008, 02:29 PM
The pictures and the story behind them are clearly.
Whether or not John Edwards has had an affair is a different matter and one that should be a topic of discussion if there was any validity to the accusations. Unnamed sources in tabloids are definitely not grounds for that though. It's unbelievably sleazy, particularly when he has two young children and a wife at home recovering from cancer.
But not quite as sleazy as banging around some chick's hatchet wound while your wife goes through another round of chemo.
"Of course. I mean, for a lot of Americans -- including the family that I grew up with, I mean, it's fundamental to how you judge people and human character -- whether you keep your word, whether you keep what is your ultimate word, which is that you love your spouse, and you'll stay with them. ... I think the most important qualities in a president in today's world are trustworthiness -- sincerity, honesty, strength of leadership. And -- and certainly that goes to a part of that."
-John Edwards responding to Katie Couric's question on fidelity.
If he's not careful he'll have to go back to chasing ambulances, channeling spirits for courtroom drama, and drumming up phony malpractice suits.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 02:35 PM
It was a simple question. He has now admitted to the affair. So, do you still think that the story behind the NE article is clearly false?
Get someone to read my post to you, since you're having trouble understanding it. I never said the story behind the article was false. I said the pictures and the story behind them(that they were taken while Edwards visited the hotel, for some reason soaked and in hospital scrubs) was.
In other words, that he fathered a child with this woman?
I have no idea whether he's the father or not and neither do you. That claim will need to be validated.
Donger
08-08-2008, 02:35 PM
Ick.
Rumours of the alleged affair have been doing the rounds of Washington for months. In October, Mr Edwards was forced publicly to deny a different Enquirer story, which claimed that Ms Hunter was six months pregnant with his child. "It's completely untrue. Ridiculous," he said. "I've been in love with the same woman for 30-plus years, and as anyone who has been around us knows, she's an extraordinary human being: warm, loving, beautiful, sexy and as good a person as I've ever known."
dirk digler
08-08-2008, 02:36 PM
My thoughts are with Elizabeth. I wish she could battle her disease in peace and her time on earth to be as pain free as possible but apparently that was too much to ask for or for her husband to give her, prick. I am so sorry for her.
Yet this is someone who you supported very hard for. You don't have very good judgment. :)
mlyonsd
08-08-2008, 02:36 PM
I wonder which side of the mansion John will be sleeping in tonight.
Donger
08-08-2008, 02:36 PM
Get someone to read my post to you, since you're having trouble understanding it. I never said the story behind the article was false. I said the pictures and the story behind them(that they were taken while Edwards visited the hotel, for some reason soaked and in hospital scrubs) was.
You are aware that Edwards has admitted visiting his squeeze at the hotel, yes?
I have no idea whether he's the father or not and neither do you. That claim will need to be validated.
I agree.
Sully
08-08-2008, 02:39 PM
It's sad what fame and power do to people. It really is.
I can't imagine running around on my wife. I just can't even comprehend doing that.
Add to that these people are famous. They get their picture taken at every opportunity. How dumb do you have to be to think you won't get caught?
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 02:39 PM
My thoughts are with Elizabeth. I wish she could battle her disease in peace and her time on earth to be as pain free as possible but apparently that was too much to ask for or for her husband to give her, prick. I am so sorry for her.
It's amazing that you still claim to somehow "know what Barack is really like" when you did such a great job in your 'researching' of Edwards.
dirk digler
08-08-2008, 02:39 PM
I wonder which side of the mansion John will be sleeping in tonight.
Apparently his wife has known since 06 or so he says.
I am a pretty good judge of character and I always thought the guy was a snake or talked like a used car salesman.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 02:39 PM
Yet this is someone who you supported very hard for. You don't have very good judgment. :)
She didn't follow her husband to NObama's camp so I think her judgment is pretty good outside of her husband. I love her. She's had a hard life and she is amazing. I am only sorry for her and her children today.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 02:40 PM
It's amazing that you still claim to somehow "know what Barack is really like" when you did such a great job in your 'researching' of Edwards.
Just wait. NObama's downfall will be even greater.
dirk digler
08-08-2008, 02:41 PM
She didn't follow her husband to NObama's camp so I think her judgment is pretty good outside of her husband. I love her. She's had a hard life and she is amazing.
Who is talking about Obama? We are talking about your good judgment here.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 02:43 PM
You are aware that Edwards has admitted visiting his squeeze at the hotel, yes?
Yes. I'm talking about the pictures as proof. If someone has an explanation of why he was soaked and dressed in hospital scrubs when he was trying to keep a low profile, I'd be interested in hearing it. As it stands, it makes zero sense as 'evidence'.
Donger
08-08-2008, 02:43 PM
I suppose that Edwards' denial is like Clinton's "but I didn't inhale" explanation:
"Yeah, I f*cked her, but I never loved her and I always pulled out."
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 02:43 PM
Who is talking about Obama? We are talking about your good judgment here.
I know. My judgment is fine. I believed her. She tried to protect her family and so she lied to cover for her husband. I am sorry he put her in that situation. I said before she is the one who would have been the better candidate of the two.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 02:44 PM
Just wait. NObama's downfall will be even greater.
Why didn't you predict Edwards downfall?
Donger
08-08-2008, 02:44 PM
Yes. I'm talking about the pictures as proof. If someone has an explanation of why he was soaked and dressed in hospital scrubs when he was trying to keep a low profile, I'd be interested in hearing it. As it stands, it makes zero sense.
If pictures from the encounter at the hotel come out with him wearing scrubs, would you take that as proof?
dirk digler
08-08-2008, 02:45 PM
I suppose that Edwards' denial is like Clinton's "but I didn't inhale" explanation:
"Yeah, I f*cked her, but I never loved her and I always pulled out."
LMAO
Good one donger. LMAO
dirk digler
08-08-2008, 02:46 PM
I know. My judgment is fine. I believed her. She tried to protect her family and so she lied to cover for her husband. I am sorry he put her in that situation. I said before she is the one who would have been the better candidate of the two.
No your judgment stinks on this one but everyone makes a mistake.
We will forgive you this time........maybe. :D
DaKCMan AP
08-08-2008, 02:47 PM
Even more disturbing, she's not remotely hot:
http://fulltiltmarriage.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/hunter.jpg
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 02:47 PM
If pictures from the encounter at the hotel come out with him wearing scrubs, would you take that as proof?
Of the pictures? Sure. Then I'd like to know why he was soaked and in hospital scrubs.
DaKCMan AP
08-08-2008, 02:48 PM
No your judgment stinks on this one but everyone makes a mistake.
We will forgive you this time........maybe. :D
You'll never get the dumb bitch to admit a mistake, even though everything she does qualifies.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 02:50 PM
Apparently there's no father listed on the kid's birth certificate.
Donger
08-08-2008, 02:53 PM
Apparently there's no father listed on the kid's birth certificate.
Maybe Barack Hussein knocked her up? Immaculate conception?
Baby Lee
08-08-2008, 02:53 PM
I suppose that Edwards' denial is like Clinton's "but I didn't inhale" explanation:
"Yeah, I f*cked her, but I never loved her and I always pulled out."
Yeah, I f@cked her. I f@cked her. I f@cked HER!!! . . . . I make love to you baby.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 02:56 PM
No your judgment stinks on this one but everyone makes a mistake.
We will forgive you this time........maybe. :D
Really? Well how well do we know ANY politician? How well do we know ANYONE outside our four walls? And even then, how well do we know those within our four walls?
I think my sister would be the first to say not well. Her hubby had a little somethin somethin on the side for two years before she found out.
Donger
08-08-2008, 02:57 PM
He's going to do an interview on Nightline? Think he'll cry?
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 03:01 PM
Really? Well how well do we know ANY politician? How well do we know ANYONE outside our four walls? And even then, how well do we know those within our four walls?
So then why the hell do you pretend to know what Barack is 'really' like?
dirk digler
08-08-2008, 03:02 PM
Really? Well how well do we know ANY politician? How well do we know ANYONE outside our four walls? And even then, how well do we know those within our four walls?
I think my sister would be the first to say not well. Her hubby had a little somethin somethin on the side for two years before she found out.
It is ok Denise just say I was misled and wrong about Edwards.
Also apparently she has being living in NC in expensive houses under a false name with no income so we know that Elizabeth had to know what was going on since she knew about the affair in 06.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 03:03 PM
So then why the hell do you pretend to know what Barack is 'really' like?
NO ONE is as saintly and untainted as he's pretended to be. He's got shit all around him and yet is somehow immune from it. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
RaiderH8r
08-08-2008, 03:05 PM
I suppose that Edwards' denial is like Clinton's "but I didn't inhale" explanation:
"Yeah, I f*cked her, but I never loved her and I always pulled out."
Apparently John thinks bukkake is OK.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 03:07 PM
It is ok Denise just say I was misled and wrong about Edwards.
Also apparently she has being living in NC in expensive houses under a false name with no income so we know that Elizabeth had to know what was going on since she knew about the affair in 06.
What was I wrong about? Believing the story they told about their lives? Well, ok. I believed the lies they told. Do I fault Elizabeth? NO. The fault lies entirely with John Edwards. I'm not surprised or shocked. I am disappointed in him NOT because of what he lied about to me but how he's treated his wife. And no one knows what goes on between two people unless they bring a third party into the mix. He did.
In normal circumstances, I'd figure this was just sex and it's between the two of them and no one else's business. I'd figure he was a dog for cheatin but I know full well most powerful men do it. It's foolish to believe otherwise...
But his wife is dying and has suffered so much already. That makes this bad on sooo many different levels.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 03:10 PM
NO ONE is as saintly and untainted as he's pretended to be.
How has he pretended to be saintly and untainted? By saying he's NOT a perfect person? Apologizing for his sins in that wall prayer?
He's got shit all around him and yet is somehow immune from it. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
LMAO So your problem with Obama is that he's teflon? How the hell does that jive with your belief that he's unelectable?
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 03:12 PM
How has he pretended to be saintly and untainted? By saying he's NOT a perfect person? Apologizing for his sins in that wall prayer?
LMAO So your problem with Obama is that he's teflon? How the hell does that jive with your belief that he's unelectable?
You are a BOT. You will be disillusioned big time.
Donger
08-08-2008, 03:13 PM
You are a BOT. You will be disillusioned big time.
By Barack Hussein?
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 03:16 PM
By Barack Hussein?
Yep. I bet this situation with Edwards will show people just how careful they should be about trusting little known and inexperienced politicians who seem too good to be true...
would be an interesting by product for sure.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 03:19 PM
Yep. I bet this situation with Edwards will show people just how careful they should be about trusting little known and inexperienced politicians who seem too good to be true...
would be an interesting by product for sure.
The only person here who thought Edwards was 'too good to be true' was you, idiot. And the only lesson we learned is that your judgment of character is awful, much like your judgment on a lot of things.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 03:20 PM
You are a BOT. You will be disillusioned big time.
How is Obama teflon AND unelectable? I want your answer.
DeezNutz
08-08-2008, 03:21 PM
Apologizing for his sins in that wall prayer?
ROFL
I'd say that was an admission of fault, on a number of different levels.
Donger
08-08-2008, 03:23 PM
How is Obama teflon AND unelectable? I want your answer.
I may be wrong, but I think what she's saying is that it isn't possible that Barack Hussein can be surrounded by "sh*t" and not be involved in it somehow.
DeezNutz
08-08-2008, 03:23 PM
Question: I haven't seen the video of Edwards' initial denial of the affair. Does he tongue thrust?
I'm pretty sure I would love to play poker against John.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 03:26 PM
I may be wrong, but I think what she's saying is that it isn't possible that Barack Hussein can be surrounded by "sh*t" and not be involved in it somehow.
Oh? So is she blaming Elizabeth Edwards for getting married to sh*t?
dirk digler
08-08-2008, 03:26 PM
What was I wrong about? Believing the story they told about their lives? Well, ok. I believed the lies they told. Do I fault Elizabeth? NO. The fault lies entirely with John Edwards. I'm not surprised or shocked. I am disappointed in him NOT because of what he lied about to me but how he's treated his wife. And no one knows what goes on between two people unless they bring a third party into the mix. He did.
In normal circumstances, I'd figure this was just sex and it's between the two of them and no one else's business. I'd figure he was a dog for cheatin but I know full well most powerful men do it. It's foolish to believe otherwise...
But his wife is dying and has suffered so much already. That makes this bad on sooo many different levels.
I knew from day one that Edwards was a snake and a used car salesman because that is the way he came across to me. You on the other hand believed him and supported him and his wife while they both lied to you. I would say my judgment was right on while yours is way off.
Like I said we all make mistakes and I will remember this if Obama messes up this badly but I bet you will come on here and laugh at us and call us stupid for believing in the man.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 03:31 PM
Come out come out wherever you are, CCW.
Remember when we had the luxury of such superficial thought in 2000? Punish the Dems and fugg the Clintons...
Look at how that toddler type of thinking turned out. Dems need to support the candidate or they will end up with 4-8 more years of CONS in power.
I am not crazy about either Hillary or Obama but neither of them scare me like McCain and Romney, more civil liberties lost, or the prospect of more CON SC justices.
Donger
08-08-2008, 03:35 PM
Oh? So is she blaming Elizabeth Edwards for getting married to sh*t?
I don't know.
Question: would you stop supporting Barack Hussein if similar news came out about him?
dirk digler
08-08-2008, 03:37 PM
I don't know.
Question: would you stop supporting Barack Hussein if similar news came out about him?
Definitely and I would suspect most people would stop supporting McCain if he had an affair.... Oh wait he already did and there are losers still supporting the guy. LMAO
Donger
08-08-2008, 03:39 PM
Definitely and I would suspect most people would stop supporting McCain if he had an affair.... Oh wait he already did and there are losers still supporting the guy. LMAO
Wasn't McCain separated before he started banging Cindy?
chagrin
08-08-2008, 03:40 PM
John Edwards is an idiot, but did any of you bother to look at the pictures? It's Edwards in hospital scrubs.
National Enquirer has been pushing this story for months now, and to no avail.
you do see where he himself is admitting to this, don't you?
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 03:41 PM
I knew from day one that Edwards was a snake and a used car salesman because that is the way he came across to me. You on the other hand believed him and supported him and his wife while they both lied to you. I would say my judgment was right on while yours is way off.
Like I said we all make mistakes and I will remember this if Obama messes up this badly but I bet you will come on here and laugh at us and call us stupid for believing in the man.
Your judgment was right in that you figured he was a snake and a fraud. You can laugh if you want to. IMO, he's lied about who he f*cks. I don't have a real problem with that as it's a very personal thing and I am not about to throw someone under the bus about sex because that is personal business between two people who are married. Marriage is hard.
But there is this thing with his wife having lost her first child and then her having a fatal disease and she has been there for him. This is where I am having a problem with him. If he'd treat his family this way then that does not bode well for how he'd treat the American people. I could forgive him being unfaithful if Elizabeth does and maybe she did. What I have a problem with is his risking his FAMILY, not the country, but his family for his own personal gratification. That doesn't sit well with me. This is where I feel he was most deceitful. There are men who will risk everything their lives to get laid and there are men who won't.
And, how do you know who is able to withstand the temptation and who isn't?
Truth is, you don't. None of us do.
I could forgive my BROinLaw for his cheatin ways IF he hadn't ruined his entire family's life in the process. He took something that was just sex and allowed it to ruin innocent people's lives. THAT is when it becomes relevant to me. It's not about the sex but it's about the disregard for the innocent people around them that rubs me wrong.
chagrin
08-08-2008, 03:41 PM
Definitely and I would suspect most people would stop supporting McCain if he had an affair.... Oh wait he already did and there are losers still supporting the guy. LMAO
while countless losers support any democrat, anywhere :rolleyes:
dirk digler
08-08-2008, 03:41 PM
Wasn't McCain separated before he started banging Cindy?
I think so who knows but he was still married when he proposed to Cindy and not only that he left her because she was handicapped because of her car accident. He is a total class act.
dirk digler
08-08-2008, 03:47 PM
Your judgment was right in that you figured he was a snake and a fraud. You can laugh if you want to. IMO, he's lied about who he f*cks. I don't have a real problem with that as it's a very personal thing and I am not about to throw someone under the bus about sex because that is personal business between two people who are married. Marriage is hard.
But there is this thing with his wife having lost her first child and then her having a fatal disease and she has been there for him. This is where I am having a problem with him. If he'd treat his family this way then that does not bode well for how he'd treat the American people. I could forgive him being unfaithful if Elizabeth does and maybe she did. What I have a problem with is his risking his FAMILY, not the country, but his family for his own personal gratification. That doesn't sit well with me.
Just as I could forgive my BROinLaw for his cheatin ways IF he hadn't ruined his entire family's life in the process. He took something that was just sex and allowed it to ruin innocent people's lives. THAT is when it becomes relevant to me. It's not about the sex but it's about the disregard for the innocent people around them that rubs me wrong. And, how do you know who is able to withstand the temptation and who isn't?
Truth is, you don't. None of us do.
I agree with all of that Denise and that is what happens when people have affairs or get divorces. It screws up alot of people and alot of families that were innocent.
The funny thing is McCain is the same way he left his wife because she had an accident, was disfigured and handicapped yet there are people on here that support the guy yet I bet they are laughing their ass off today of what happened to Edwards. IMO they are both POS's and not worthy of anything but a good ass kicking.
dirk digler
08-08-2008, 03:49 PM
while countless losers support any democrat, anywhere :rolleyes:
It definitely goes both ways and I definitely wouldn't support a candidate if he did something like this.
Donger
08-08-2008, 03:49 PM
So, Elizabeth knew about this affair all the way back in 2006?
And, Edwards was crossing swords with a senior guy on his campaign?
dirk digler
08-08-2008, 03:53 PM
So, Elizabeth knew about this affair all the way back in 2006?
And, Edwards was crossing swords with a senior guy on his campaign?
Supposedly she knew which makes her as a good liar as him IMO.
Don't know about the second question
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 03:54 PM
I don't know.
Question: would you stop supporting Barack Hussein if similar news came out about him?
If this had been Obama, yes I wouldn't continue supporting him.
Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 03:54 PM
John Edwards? A phony? Why, I totally didn't see anything like this coming!
So, Elizabeth knew about this affair all the way back in 2006?Well, at least that takes away the "****'s sake, his dying wife gets to go through this?" sadness.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 03:54 PM
you do see where he himself is admitting to this, don't you?
Check the post date, Einstein.
Donger
08-08-2008, 03:55 PM
Supposedly she knew which makes her as a good liar as him IMO.
Don't know about the second question
Well apparently, Edwards is claiming that some guy on his campaign was also banging this tramp and he knocked her up.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 03:57 PM
I agree with all of that Denise and that is what happens when people have affairs or get divorces. It screws up alot of people and alot of families that were innocent.
The funny thing is McCain is the same way he left his wife because she had an accident, was disfigured and handicapped yet there are people on here that support the guy yet I bet they are laughing their ass off today of what happened to Edwards. IMO they are both POS's and not worthy of anything but a good ass kicking.
I'm not voting for McCain and his past marriage is really in the past. I don't like him for many reasons but his marriage isn't one of them.
Direckshun
08-08-2008, 03:57 PM
Well, all I have to say is, I'm glad we didn't nominate the guy.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 03:58 PM
John Edwards? A phony? Why, I totally didn't see anything like this coming!
Well, at least that takes away the "****'s sake, his dying wife gets to go through this?" sadness.
No, it's still there. She knew about it but that doesn't mean she condoned it nor does it mean that he was honest with her about it's status thereafter.
dirk digler
08-08-2008, 04:00 PM
Well apparently, Edwards is claiming that some guy on his campaign was also banging this tramp and he knocked her up.
LMAO
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 04:00 PM
Well, all I have to say is, I'm glad we didn't nominate the guy.
Yes, his abrupt withdrawal from the race makes more sense now. The sad thing is these rumors were going around for months. I think the media has a responsibility to report them and find out if they are true lest this come out after the nomination is made.
:doh!:
RaiderH8r
08-08-2008, 04:01 PM
Well apparently, Edwards is claiming that some guy on his campaign was also banging this tramp and he knocked her up.
Finger cuffs dude, finger cuffs.
Donger
08-08-2008, 04:02 PM
Yes, his abrupt withdrawal from the race makes more sense now. The sad thing is these rumors were going around for months. I think the media has a responsibility to report them and find out if they are true lest this come out after the nomination is made.
:doh!:
He's a Democrat. Didn't the MSM report on McCain having an affair a while back with some donor or something?
Direckshun
08-08-2008, 04:03 PM
"I think this President has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen," - John Edwards, on Bill Clinton, 1999.
Donger
08-08-2008, 04:03 PM
LMAO
What's funny? Wait though, I got it wrong. The aide is claiming it, not Edwards.
Donger
08-08-2008, 04:06 PM
F*ck me! It's Camilla Parker Bowles! The British are coming (with John Edwards)! The British are coming (pull out, John!)!
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 04:06 PM
He's a Democrat. Didn't the MSM report on McCain having an affair a while back with some donor or something?
Yes, they tried to say he did. I don't know if it was ever proven true or not.
Perhaps because that was seen as a false alarm then the media decided to be more cautious about it and Edwards was the beneficiary.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 04:07 PM
No, it's still there. She knew about it but that doesn't mean she condoned it nor does it mean that he was honest with her about it's status thereafter.
"It's impossible to be surrounded by shit and be immune from it.
It's impossible to be as saintly and untainted as you pretend Elizabeth Edwards is."
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 04:08 PM
"It's impossible to be surrounded by shit and be immune from it.
It's impossible to be as saintly and untainted as you pretend Elizabeth Edwards is."
For all we know, he told her it was over but continued. She believed him. She is not to be blamed.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 04:10 PM
For all we know, he told her it was over but continued. She believed him. She is not to be blamed.
I thought you said you stopped believing people who were 'too good to be true'?
Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 04:11 PM
Yes, his abrupt withdrawal from the race makes more sense now. The sad thing is these rumors were going around for months. I think the media has a responsibility to report them and find out if they are true lest this come out after the nomination is made.
:doh!:I love that you were trumpeting "But they'll find SOMETHING out about Obama!" after Edwards withdrew. I truly, dearly love it.
Donger
08-08-2008, 04:12 PM
I thought you said you stopped believing people who were 'too good to be true'?
That doesn't apply when the person in question has a vagina.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 04:13 PM
I love that you were trumpeting "But they'll find SOMETHING out about Obama!" after Edwards withdrew. I truly, dearly love it.
It's early. You'll see. It took two years to find out Edward's secret.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 04:14 PM
I thought you said you stopped believing people who were 'too good to be true'?
She is fuggin dying of cancer. I am not going to blame her for any of this. If she were healthy and able not focused on keeping her family together incase she dies then I may not give her so much slack...
but alas, she was protecting her kids and I respect the hell out of her for that.
Donger
08-08-2008, 04:16 PM
but alas, she was protecting her kids and I respect the hell out of her for that.
How do you know that is what she was doing?
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 04:17 PM
That doesn't apply when the person in question has a vagina.
Not true.
Sheesh, you guys act like you never saw a politician get caught f@cking around on his wife before. Or F@cking a prostitute. Or F@cking a male prostitute. Or hitting on teenage boys. Or soliciting sex in a mens room. Or shelling out 5K for a prostitute. Or getting a BJ from an intern. Or.....oh well, never mind.
Really, is it any wonder politicians get so little done? They're too busy trying to get laid.
Donger
08-08-2008, 04:19 PM
Not true.
I'd like to believe that, but I don't.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 04:20 PM
She is fuggin dying of cancer. I am not going to blame her for any of this. If she were healthy and able not focused on keeping her family together incase she dies then I may not give her so much slack...
but alas, she was protecting her kids and I respect the hell out of her for that.
Why are you making Elizabeth Edwards out to be this saint-like figure?
I for one don't ever think I'll be able to understand this Cult of Personality. It's like Elizabeth Edwards is Hitler. Plus I heard rumors her father was an arab.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 04:20 PM
How do you know that is what she was doing?
I don't know it. I suspect as a woman that is what she was doing. She has young children and a terminal illness. At this point keeping her kids with their father and giving them at least the illusion of a happy family is probably paramount.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 04:21 PM
I'd like to believe that, but I don't.
Don't know what I can say to convince you otherwise. You are entitled to your opinion. The fact is there are more powerful men out there than women so we don't have this scenario in reverse very often, do we?
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 04:22 PM
I don't know it. I suspect as a woman that is what she was doing. She has young children and a terminal illness. At this point keeping her kids with their father and giving them at least the illusion of a happy family is probably paramount.
She is the embodiment of everything that is good in this world. She is 'The One'.
Donger
08-08-2008, 04:23 PM
Heh. Edwards was apparently promised a prime-time speaking slot during the convention. I wonder if he'll still get that?
Bubba: "Hey John? Didn't you get the memo? Have her blow you and squirt on her dress."
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 04:23 PM
She is the embodiment of everything that is good in this world. She is 'The One'.
I think she is like my sister. Faith and trust got in the way of common sense and self respect. She did the wrong thing for the right reasons.
Donger
08-08-2008, 04:24 PM
Don't know what I can say to convince you otherwise. You are entitled to your opinion. The fact is there are more powerful men out there than women so we don't have this scenario in reverse very often, do we?
That's because we have penises.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 04:26 PM
That's because we have penises.
Unlike men, women are usually less inclined to risk their entire lives for sex. Sure, some are but the ratio is quite slim compared to men.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 04:27 PM
I think she is like my sister. Faith and trust got in the way of common sense and self respect. She did the wrong thing for the right reasons.
She is a God. There need to statues erected of the woman immediately.
Donger
08-08-2008, 04:27 PM
Unlike men, women are usually less inclined to risk their entire lives for sex. Sure, some are but the ratio is quite slim compared to men.
That's because we have penises.
It's only risky if you think you're gonna get caught.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 04:33 PM
She is a God. There need to statues erected of the woman immediately.
That would be Goddess, geneous.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 04:38 PM
That would be Goddess, geneous.
Forgive me. Give my apology to the other Elizabeth Edwards Cult Members.
Baby Lee
08-08-2008, 04:39 PM
It's early. You'll see. It took two years to find out Edward's secret.
Correction. It took two years to collect evidence so ironclad even Edwards couldn't deny it any more.
Donger
08-08-2008, 04:39 PM
STATEMENT OF SENATOR JOHN EDWARDS
August 8, 2008
Chapel Hill, North Carolina
In 2006, I made a serious error in judgment and conducted myself in a way that was disloyal to my family and to my core beliefs. I recognized my mistake and I told my wife that I had a liaison with another woman, and I asked for her forgiveness. Although I was honest in every painful detail with my family, I did not tell the public. When a supermarket tabloid told a version of the story, I used the fact that the story contained many falsities to deny it. But being 99% honest is no longer enough.
I was and am ashamed of my conduct and choices, and I had hoped that it would never become public. With my family, I took responsibility for my actions in 2006 and today I take full responsibility publicly. But that misconduct took place for a short period in 2006. It ended then. I am and have been willing to take any test necessary to establish the fact that I am not the father of any baby, and I am truly hopeful that a test will be done so this fact can be definitively established. I only know that the apparent father has said publicly that he is the father of the baby. I also have not been engaged in any activity of any description that requested, agreed to or supported payments of any kind to the woman or to the apparent father of the baby.
It is inadequate to say to the people who believed in me that I am sorry, as it is inadequate to say to the people who love me that I am sorry. In the course of several campaigns, I started to believe that I was special and became increasingly egocentric and narcissistic. If you want to beat me up – feel free. You cannot beat me up more than I have already beaten up myself. I have been stripped bare and will now work with everything I have to help my family and others who need my help.
I have given a complete interview on this matter and having done so, will have nothing more to say.
Donger
08-08-2008, 04:40 PM
So, if that misconduct took place for a short period in 2006, what was he doing in a hotel with her?
Friendo
08-08-2008, 04:44 PM
I love that you were trumpeting "But they'll find SOMETHING out about Obama!" after Edwards withdrew. I truly, dearly love it.
ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 04:44 PM
Seeing as you not only like Elizabeth Edwards, but love her, is it safe to say you worship the ground she walks on, CCW? That you pray to her at night?
Sully
08-08-2008, 04:46 PM
Seeing as you not only like Elizabeth Edwards, but love her, is it safe to say you worship the ground she walks on, CCW? That you pray to her at night?
Is she an ElizaBOT?
ROFL
Deberg_1990
08-08-2008, 04:48 PM
Wow, this thread really picked up steam. I thought National Enquirer was full of sh*t?? :)
Baby Lee
08-08-2008, 04:49 PM
Is he gonna tell Nightline that this is something he's never told anyone on earth about before? ROFL ROFL
dirk digler
08-08-2008, 04:52 PM
So, if that misconduct took place for a short period in 2006, what was he doing in a hotel with her?
Great question and one that will hopefully be answered tonight.
Also he just stated that he told Elizabeth in 06 so that makes her a liar and a con artist as well. All for power..pathetic.
Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 04:52 PM
Is she an ElizaBOT?
ROFLCCW is like, so totally over.
All hail ElizaBOT!
Baby Lee
08-08-2008, 04:55 PM
In the course of several campaigns, I started to believe that I was special and became increasingly egocentric and narcissistic.
So now is he the same 'partisan sheep' as the people who observed this long ago?
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 04:56 PM
He's apparently still egocentric. What kind of a-hole says "it's not enough anymore to be 99% honest"?
Baby Lee
08-08-2008, 05:01 PM
He's apparently still egocentric. What kind of a-hole says "it's not enough anymore to be 99% honest"?
Is that what he said? At first glance I could've swore it was "Damn, I wished I could lied like Bubba. That guy's got it goin' on."
;)
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 05:03 PM
Seeing as you not only like Elizabeth Edwards, but love her, is it safe to say you worship the ground she walks on, CCW? That you pray to her at night?
Nope.
That would be your ilk.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 05:05 PM
Correction. It took two years to collect evidence so ironclad even Edwards couldn't deny it any more.
Actually rumor has had it for months now. Something else is happening that he would actually fess up to it NOW. I am not sure what. Perhaps the DNC did not want this talk happening during the convention thus he was asked to get this out of the way at this time. Can you imagine the distraction it would be with the rumors swirling if he were speaking during the convention.
No one could expect he would be given a speaking slot now.
Baby Lee
08-08-2008, 05:09 PM
Actually rumor has had it for months now. Something else is happening that he would actually fess up to it NOW. I am not sure what. Perhaps the DNC did not want this talk happening during the convention thus he was asked to get this out of the way at this time. Can you imagine the distraction it would be with the rumors swirling if he were speaking during the convention.
No one could expect he would be given a speaking slot now.
He got caught red handed visiting Reille in LA last week, ducking down hallways and refusing to come out of bathrooms in the hotel when the Enq reporter was sighted.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 05:11 PM
He got caught red handed visiting Reille in LA last week, ducking down hallways and refusing to come out of bathrooms in the hotel when the Enq reporter was sighted.
Yes, but the rumors have been circulating for months on the web. I think it was the reason he withdrew from the race in the first place.
Donger
08-08-2008, 05:11 PM
Elizabeth, 9/29/06: "John was always there by my side. I cannot say enough about what a great husband he has been through all of this. John and I are so completely connected. There is nothing closer than where we are now."
Source: People.com
WTF would she say something like this?
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 05:12 PM
Nope.
That would be your ilk.
Oh, so it's not ok to portray her as a Goddess in your eyes because you said that you love her?
But it's ok to portray Obama as a God to his supporters because they like him?
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 05:16 PM
Oh, so it's not ok to portray her as a Goddess in your eyes because you said that you love her?
But it's ok to portray Obama as a God to his supporters because they like him?
I love her strength. She lost a her first born son. She gave up a promising career of her own to support her husband's aspirations. She is a cancer survivor. Now she is dealing with this. Her strength is an inspiration to many many people and not merely voter virgins. :rolleyes:
Baby Lee
08-08-2008, 05:16 PM
Yes, but the rumors have been circulating for months on the web. I think it was the reason he withdrew from the race in the first place.
I don't even think we're disagreeing on anything, except that I corrected you when you said that it took 2 years to find out.
Enq has reported it for a good while
They recently had him cornered in a bathroom in the hotel where she was [pssst, that's the 'something else happening.']
He's now admitted it.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 05:18 PM
I love her strength. She lost a her first born son. She gave up a promising career of her own to support her husband's aspirations. She is a cancer survivor. Now she is dealing with this. Her strength is an inspiration to many many people and not voter virgins. :rolleyes:
She sounds too good to be true. Almost like a real life Goddess.
I wonder why you aren't digging for skeletons in her closet.
Baby Lee
08-08-2008, 05:22 PM
I love her strength. She lost a her first born son. She gave up a promising career of her own to support her husband's aspirations. She is a cancer survivor. Now she is dealing with this. Her strength is an inspiration to many many people and not merely voter virgins. :rolleyes:
Oh, and she continues to be the angriest critic of the 'other team.'
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 05:26 PM
She sounds too good to be true. Almost like a real life Goddess.
I wonder why you aren't digging for skeletons in her closet.
She's dying. She gets a pass. Sorry, but IMO the game of politics ends where dying begins.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 05:26 PM
Oh, and she continues to be the angriest critic of the 'other team.'
You mean the CONS, right? Why wouldn't I love that. ;)
Baby Lee
08-08-2008, 05:28 PM
You mean the CONS, right? Why wouldn't I love that. ;)
I strongly suspect that if she were the exact same person, except she were as quiet as Laura Bush, you'd be as indifferent as everyone else about now.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 05:31 PM
I strongly suspect that if she were the exact same person, except she were as quiet as Laura Bush, you'd be as indifferent as everyone else about now.
I don't know about that. The things I respect most about her have little to do with politics. If anything, I am sort of disappointed that she took the back seat to her husband when she clearly could have been a wonderful politico herself.
little jacob
08-08-2008, 05:44 PM
But, I think every single candidate for president, Republican and Democratic have lives, personal lives, that indicate something about what kind of human being they are. And I think it is a fair evaluation for America to engage in to look at what kind of human beings each of us are, and what kind of president we'd make.
John Edwards, March 25 2007 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/24/60minutes/main2605038_page4.shtml
kstater
08-08-2008, 05:44 PM
I'm surprised Meme rolled on her mancrush so fast. I had her pegged to blame the mistress for using John's power, or blaming the wife for not being close enough forcing him into the affair.
HolmeZz
08-08-2008, 05:54 PM
She's dying. She gets a pass. Sorry, but IMO the game of politics ends where dying begins.
So if Barack gets diagnosed with cancer in the next few months, you'll go vote for him?
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 06:39 PM
So if Barack gets diagnosed with cancer in the next few months, you'll go vote for him?
No, I'll wish him well.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 06:40 PM
On the bright side for him, this shoud make Ann Coulter STFU about him being gay. :doh!:
DeezNutz
08-08-2008, 06:48 PM
STATEMENT OF SENATOR JOHN EDWARDS
But being 99% honest is no longer enough.
ROFL
That last 1 percent is always a bitch.
memyselfI
08-08-2008, 09:00 PM
ROFL
That last 1 percent is always a bitch.
I have a :spock: about something. I think there might be another woman in the picture sometime in the future. I also think there might be another baby allegation. Why?
I am and have been willing to take any test necessary to establish the fact that I am not the father of any baby, and I am truly hopeful that a test will be done so this fact can be definitively established.
alanm
08-08-2008, 09:38 PM
Sheesh, you guys act like you never saw a politician get caught f@cking around on his wife before. Or F@cking a prostitute. Or F@cking a male prostitute. Or hitting on teenage boys. Or soliciting sex in a mens room. Or shelling out 5K for a prostitute. Or getting a BJ from an intern. Or.....oh well, never mind.
Really, is it any wonder politicians get so little done? They're too busy trying to get laid.
Got that right. I wonder how many today thought glad it was him and not me. ROFL
DeezNutz
08-08-2008, 10:51 PM
I have a :spock: about something. I think there might be another woman in the picture sometime in the future. I also think there might be another baby allegation. Why?
I think you're being too precise with someone who is a dumbass. I understand that he should be selecting his words with utmost care, but this seems like a common colloquialism to me.
go bowe
08-09-2008, 11:56 AM
Yep. I bet this situation with Edwards will show people just how careful they should be about trusting little known and inexperienced politicians who seem too good to be true...
would be an interesting by product for sure.well, at least he seems (too) good...
that's more than i can say for that other guy...
iow, seeming good is > not seeming good...
go hussein go...
little jacob
08-10-2008, 01:44 AM
I don't understand why Edwards is done politically, and won't get to be Obama's attorney general should he win as I think was previously planned, and won't speak at the convention.
Why is it that they will treat Bill Clinton like a hero for the ages but they have banished Edwards? Edwards didn't lie about it in a deposition or anything else. He just lied about it to the media. Everyone lies about it, and it's just sex right?
I don't understand why Edwards is done politically, and won't get to be Obama's attorney general should he win as I think was previously planned, and won't speak at the convention.
Why is it that they will treat Bill Clinton like a hero for the ages but they have banished Edwards? Edwards didn't lie about it in a deposition or anything else. He just lied about it to the media. Everyone lies about it, and it's just sex right?
Too new, too soon, political target, and wildly unnecessary to have him involved.
ROYC75
08-10-2008, 03:00 AM
Too new, too soon, political target, and wildly unnecessary to have him involved.
Come on now, Bill's pecker was still wet with Jennifer's Flower when he got elected. The Dems over looked that..........
Baby Lee
08-11-2008, 06:56 AM
Cuckoo
http://www.newsweek.com/id/151783
Friendo
08-11-2008, 07:00 AM
Cuckoo
http://www.newsweek.com/id/151783
whoa-she was stroking more than his Johnson. :eek:
Chief Henry
08-11-2008, 10:56 AM
[QUOTE=HolmeZz;4902220]"It's impossible to be surrounded by shit and be immune from it. QUOTE]
Barry Obama has been surronded by shit for many years, but many people still think he's immune from the shit he's been around. Go figure.
Joe Seahawk
08-11-2008, 12:12 PM
Was he at the Hotel seeing the girl and the baby? If he's not the father and he broke off the affair, why was he at the hotel?
I'm also curious how much she was paid to refuse a paternity test.
little jacob
08-11-2008, 12:13 PM
Was he at the Hotel seeing the girl and the baby? If he's not the father and he broke off the affair, why was he at the hotel?
I'm also curious how much she was paid to refuse a paternity test.
Seems obvious that was what happened. It was arranged for him to volunteer for one, and for her to decline the opportunity. That way it looks like he had nothing to hide but we never actually find out if he's the father or not.
she's a kook and is over the cliff for him, but don't be surprised if someday in the future they are on worse terms and she says he's the father after all.
bkkcoh
08-12-2008, 02:29 PM
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