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BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 07:38 AM
I know you Cubbie fans got a a little thread going and we(who have won 10 WS since you have even been to one) have our own thread but I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread to talk smack about the this weekends series

Cardinals vs. Chicago at Wrigley field

1:20 p.m. today FSN Midwest

Braden Looper
RH
Record 10-9
ERA 4.29

Ted Lilly
LH
Record 11-6
ERA 4.35

2:55 p.m. Saturday KTVI (Ch. 2)

Todd Wellemeyer
RH
Record 8-4
ERA 4.01

Carlos Zambrano
RH
Record 12-4
ERA 2.76

7:10 p.m. Sunday ESPN

Chris Carpenter
RH
Record 0-0
ERA 1.00

RyanDempster
RH
Record 12-5
ERA 2.93

Bad idea? Just let it fall away.

Flustrated
08-08-2008, 08:06 AM
I thought the Cardinals moved to Arizona?!

Flustrated
08-08-2008, 08:08 AM
I thought the Cardinals moved to Arizona?!

Or did the manager get busted for DRUNK DRIVING on the way out so they decided to stay?

Flustrated
08-08-2008, 08:09 AM
Cubs 11

Cards 3

You heard it here first

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 08:12 AM
Or did the manager get busted for DRUNK DRIVING on the way out so they decided to stay?
Comeon we can get better smack than this going. Jeeezz at least post the video of the arrest or the mug shot.:shake:

StcChief
08-08-2008, 08:14 AM
I'll settle for 1 W in series ....anything else is gravy.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 08:16 AM
Cubs 11

Cards 3

You heard it here first
The Cubs last won the WS in 1908, when the idea of Wrigley Field was hooted down at Planning Commission meetings for fear of the detrimental effect it would have on horse-and-buggy traffic on the North Side. Since then, the Cubs have curled up on the October stage in 1910, 1918, 1929, 1932, 1935, 1938, 1945, 1984, 1989 and 1998. Idle thought: How tragic is your franchise when you lose the World Series the same year the stock market crash starts the Depression?
http://collateraldamage.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/cubs.jpg

Flustrated
08-08-2008, 08:21 AM
Comeon we can get better smack than this going. Jeeezz at least post the video of the arrest or the mug shot.:shake:

Really though, he could have been wearing a Hawaiain shirt and had bloodshot eyes or something....the damn Cards can't even take a good mug shot.

I bet if Pinella got busted he would have had dried puke on his bare chest and lipstick marks all over his face.

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 08:24 AM
I still don't understand what kind of shots Wellemeyer took in the ass to turn into a half-decent pitcher.

The Cubs last won the WS in 1908, goats, Bartmans, Alex Gonzalezes, etc.Holy shit, that is ORIGINAL. I had no idea.

Flustrated
08-08-2008, 08:27 AM
I still don't understand what kind of shots Wellemeyer took in the ass to turn into a half-decent pitcher.

Holy shit, that is ORIGINAL. I had no idea.

If that mug shot had exposed the lower half of La Ruzza,(BTW, Is he French?) you'd see exactly what kind of shot in the ass he was getting.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 08:42 AM
I still don't understand what kind of shots Wellemeyer took in the ass to turn into a half-decent pitcher.
Holy shit, that is ORIGINAL. I had no idea.
I can't be orignal. I suck at smack talk. Frazod is the expert at that.

It's Dave Duncan. He takes washed up, picked out of the MLB refuse cast offs and makes them good again. He's been doing it for 26 years. He's the best pitching coach ever.

He teaches them how to pitch and not worry about strikeouts. No walks, make them hit ground balls. Fixs their mechanical issues etc. They leave the Cardinals and get big time FA money and within a year they suck again.

StcChief
08-08-2008, 08:50 AM
I still don't understand what kind of shots Wellemeyer took in the ass to turn into a half-decent pitcher.

Holy shit, that is ORIGINAL. I had no idea.maybe an organization with a real pitching coach. And a team that can give run support.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 08:57 AM
ST. LOUIS --It's off to Wrigley Field in Chicago for a critical three-game series against the Cubs for the St. Louis Cardinals, who hope to make a statement.

The Cardinals (64-53) fell six games behind the first-place Cubs (69-46) in the National League Central on Thursday with a 4-1 loss to rookie left-hander Clayton Kershaw and the Los Angeles Dodgers at Busch Stadium.
"Obviously, we know Cubs-Cardinals is a big thing," Cardinals second baseman Aaron Miles said. "They're ahead of us in the standings right now. It would be a big help if we can take that series.

"They're all important at this stage of the game, with less than two months remaining and where we are at in the standings. It's play good or go home. If we play good, we're going to be right there."

The Cardinals will pitch Braden Looper (10-9, 4.29 ERA) against the Cubs' Ted Lilly (11-6, 4.35 ERA) at 1:20 p.m. today. Todd Wellemeyer (8-4, 4.01 ERA) will pitch at 2:55 p.m. Saturday against Carlos Zambrano (12-4, 2.76 ERA), and Chris Carpenter will work at 7:10 p.m. Sunday against Ryan Dempster (12-5, 2.93 ERA).

Chicago has the best home record in the baseball at 43-16. The Cardinals, by percentage points, own the best road record in the NL at 31-25.
"We've just got to go in there and play baseball, play a solid game all the way around," Miles said. "They play good there, we play good on the road, so it should be a good matchup."

The Cubs and Cardinals have split six games this season, all in St. Louis. The Cardinals won two of three in May; the Cubs won two of three in July.

"Any time you're facing a first-place team, it's going to be a tough challenge," right fielder Ryan Ludwick said. "We've just got to battle. We've got Lilly, Zambrano and Dempster. We're going to have to step in the box and grind out at-bats and try to put as many good at-bats together as we can.

"From the pitching side of things, we've got some guys going on our side who are good in my opinion, too. It will be a dogfight."

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 08:59 AM
Friendly confines, my foot

I used to go watch the Cardinals play the Cubs every year. But my wife and I were harassed and threatened by drunken Cubs fans who threw beer on us then followed us for several blocks outside Wrigley Field shouting profanities about St. Louis and telling us "hillbillies" to go back to Missouri. That was the day before Darryl Kile died. When we woke up the next morning to find out what happed to the former Cardials pitcher, we left and we've never been back. Somewhere in the last 100 years, it seems that Cubs fans lost their sense of humor and, suddenly, there is more danger at Wrigley Field than a piece of concrete falling on your head.

It's not just Cardinals fans that Cubs faithful target. Here are a couple of stories from the last two weeks to illustrate my point:

MILWAUKEE (AP) — Three Chicago-area men are accused of beating up a suburban Milwaukee man who police say threw a beer at their bus after the Milwaukee Brewers’ loss to the Chicago Cubs at Miller Park.
Officers arrested the three Cubs fans Tuesday night. They’re 25, 26 and 34 years old.
Police say the three Chicago-area men got off the bus after the 24-year-old man threw the beer. The Brewers fan was cited for disorderly conduct and taken to a local hospital. Authorities say he suffered cuts to his face and had a tooth knocked out.

The 34-year-old Chicago-area man also received a municipal ticket for assault and battery after police say he punched his sister in the mouth as she tried to intervene in the fight.

Punching your sister in the face when she tries to stop you from gang beating a guy who roots for the wrong team... Classy.

Here is a little nugget from last week, according to the Associated Press:
Robert Steele, a 32-year-old Chicago White Sox fan, lost his right eye and suffered a broken nose after allegedly being attacked by three Cubs fans earlier this month. The attackers have been charged with assault and mob action.

According to McHenry County officials, the scene of this violent act was not in a back alley, some sports bar, or the bleachers of Wrigley Field. The attack occured at at a 2-year-old girl’s Sesame Street-themed birthday party, not exactly what the girl was wishing for when she blew out the candles on her Elmo cake.

Police said Monday the men were drinking alcohol at the July 19th party and taunting Steele. He stayed several days at an Elgin hospital.
Elmo says beware of Cubs fans in threes.

http://bellevillenewsdemocrat.typepad.com/viewfromthecheapseats/2008/08/friendly-confin.html#more

StcChief
08-08-2008, 09:00 AM
Friday/Sunday look like our best shots at W. Zambrano on Sat will be very tough.

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 09:02 AM
maybe an organization with a real pitching coach. And a team that can give run support.Because God knows the team with the best run differential in baseball and the #2 team ERA in the NL is struggling on both of those fronts.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 09:03 AM
Because God knows the team with the best run differential in baseball and the #2 team ERA in the NL is struggling on both of those fronts.
I believe he was dissing the Royals not the Cubbies.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 09:04 AM
I still don't understand what kind of shots Wellemeyer took in the ass to turn into a half-decent pitcher.

Holy shit, that is ORIGINAL. I had no idea.

Duncan is like a Soviet "re-education" camp. He helps them learn that strikeouts are fascist and that the 2-seam fastball is more democratic. It also helps that he has a guy like Yadi Molina calling the game for him, and a good defense behind him so that they can maximize the "pitch to contact" philosophy. Wellemeyer always had great natural stuff, he was just wasted in the Royals organization because...well, they couldn't develop a pound of rice in a Cambodian floodplain.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 10:43 AM
– The Cardinals have played very well on the road. They’re the highest-scoring road team in the majors this season, averaging 5.32 runs per game.

– But this is a tough assignment. The Cubs are 43-16 at Wrigley so far. How good is that? Well, it’s a home winning percentage of .729. Until now, the best home winning percentage by a Cubs team since 1954 belonged to the ‘84 team (.638).

– To this point, this could be the best offensive team the Cubs have ever put on the grass at Wrigley. The 2008 Cubs will likely set some home records (on offense) before the season is over. They are scoring 6.14 runs per game at home, the best according to STATS data dating back to 1954. The combined home onbase-slugging percentage of .875 is also the highest going back to ‘54.

– The 2008 Cubs are leading the NL in home scoring, slugging, onbase percentage and are second in homers.

– Who are the Cubs’ best hitters at home?
Many:
* Aramis Ramirez has 12 homers and 43 RBIs and an unreal .472 OBP and .607 SLG. The only NL players who have a higher home OPS this season are Chipper Jones and Matt Holliday.
* Derrek Lee has 14 homers and 36 RBIs and a .524 SLG. Lee has only three homers away from Wrigley. He has the highest percentage of HRs hit at home in the majors this season.
* Alfonso Soriano has 14 homers and 37 RBIS and a SLG of .664.
* Ramirez, Fukudome, Theriot, DeRosa and Edmonds have OBPs higher than .400 at home.
* Geovany Soto has 40 RBIs at home, and a .492 SLG.
* Six Cubs regulars are hitting higher than .300 at home.
* Old friend Edmonds has a SLG of .704 at Wrigley this season, with seven homers in 73 at-bats.

– Best of luck to Cardinals starting pitchers Braden Looper, Todd Wellemeyer and Chris Carpenter this weekend.

– Since the start of the 2002 season, Albert Pujols has the most extra-base hits in the majors, 555. But No. 2 on the list is the Cubs’ Soriano, with 552.

Enjoy the series….

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 10:46 AM
Cubs fans

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BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 10:48 AM
For all the profanity-inducing, stomach-twisting, head-scratching consternation they've helped provoke over these last few wild and nervous weeks, maybe it's time we give the Cardinals a little credit for something besides our own rising acid reflux levels.

It's the second weekend in August, and this team is heading to <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pChicago</ST1:p</st1:City> with a chance on its bats. With nearly a third of the season remaining, there is meaningful baseball being played by these cardiac Cards, and I can say confidently that four months ago I didn't see this coming — and neither did most of the baseball world.<O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p

Despite a bullpen that produces more diabolical thrillers than Stephen King, the Cardinals are hitting the road for 10 games, and they have a two-dimensional playoff vision in their heads. On one side, there is the NL Central title, and the Cubbies in full control of that dimension with a five-game lead over <st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pMilwaukee</ST1:p</st1:City> with fewer than 50 games to play.
<O:p</O:p


And so for the first time since 2003, we have a rare redux of the celebrated "Three Nights in August" at Wrigley Field: a series that gives weight to the so-called Cards-Cubs "rivalry" beyond the normal amusing little civic hissing match between the dueling fan nations. For a change, this isn't just a glorified house party where one pitiful noncontender (usually the Cubs) gets to play spoiler during another's championship run (usually the Cards). It's a series with playoff implications, not just geo-municipal pride for both teams, which finally elevates it to the same competitive fever pitch of so many previous glorified Yanks vs. Red Sox duels.

<O:p</O:p

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 11:20 AM
Cubs fans

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Flustrated
08-08-2008, 11:26 AM
Cubs fans

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Now That's True fan loyalty!!!!

Go CUBBIES!!!!!!

POND_OF_RED
08-08-2008, 11:28 AM
In case you cards fans want to sing a long a few times this weekend. :)
Baseball season's underway
Well you better get ready for a brand new day.
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna win today.

They're singing ...
Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go

Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna win today.

Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go

Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna win today.

They got the power, they got the speed
To be the best in the National League
Well this is the year and Cubs are real
So come on down to Wrigley Field

We're singing now ...

Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna win today.

Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna win today.

Baseball time is here again
You can catch it all on WGN
So stamp you feet and clap your hands
Chicago Cubs got the greatest fans.

You're singing now ...

Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna win today.

Go, Cubs, go
Go, Cubs, go
Hey, Chicago, what do you say
The Cubs are gonna win today.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 11:32 AM
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Flustrated
08-08-2008, 11:35 AM
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Flustrated
08-08-2008, 11:36 AM
Nothing beats the real Harry! :clap:

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 11:37 AM
Yo Ohman, you suck shit and your gelatinous face makes black baby Jesus cry. Just thought you should know.

http://i36.tinypic.com/15573w5.jpg

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 11:38 AM
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Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 11:40 AM
Here's another awesome Elia(s) rant:

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Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 11:41 AM
Hey guys, Will Leitch thinks you're FULL OF SHIT (http://www.goatriders.org/node/2403):

GR: Okay, here's the most obvious question given that nobody expected much out of the Cardinals seeing as how it's basically Albert Pujols and a rag-tag bunch of ragamuffin kids. What would you say the key is to their success? Is Dave Duncan just a wizard or something (and I mean, literally, a wizard)?


Will Leitch: It's pretty ridiculous what Ryan Ludwick has done this year; you could make an argument he has been more important to the Cards than Pujols. (You'd be wrong, but you could make that argument.) Going into the season, I thought the Cardinals' best outfielder would be Colby Rasmus. Ludwick has been amazing (if streaky), Skip Schumaker and Joe Mather are a surprisingly effective platoon and it has been a sublime pleasure watching Rick Ankiel (swoon!) improve seemingly by the game. That outfield was supposed to be a wasteland; it's been the team strength. Much is made out of the rotation, but it has been anything from dominant. Lohse is the ace, and he's not having the season everyone thinks he's having, Todd Wellemeyer is only recently starting to look healthy again, if Braden Looper reaches the seventh inning we're doing backflips and Joel Pineiro ... well, I like the color of his glove. In other words: Duncan is getting too much credit. (I mean, he is the bullpen's pitching coach too. And if the bullpen were even halfway decent, we'd be battling you guys for first place rather than hoping the Brewers kill each other.) The offense (and defense, vastly underrated, as always) is the reason they're 10 games over .500 in a season in which we were idly dreaming of breaking even, maybe.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 11:46 AM
Here's another awesome Elia(s) rant:

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The section from :21-:28 will go down with Cronkite telling the nation of JFK's death as the two greatest somber news deliveries of all time.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 12:22 PM
Hey guys, Will Leitch thinks you're FULL OF SHIT (http://www.goatriders.org/node/2403):
Jeff Weaver and Anthony Reyes won World Series games. Suppan had a .083 era in the playoffs.

Where are they now after signing big money FA deals?

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 12:28 PM
Jeff Weaver and Anthony Reyes won World Series games. Suppan had a .083 era in the playoffs.

Where are they now after signing big money FA deals?

Not to mention that pitching to contact and that D go hand-in-hand.

That's not to say that Duncan can polish every turd. It's not like he succeeded with Ponson, Clement, or some of the other reclamation projects.

Stewie
08-08-2008, 12:44 PM
I don't see today's game on my on-screen guide (TW KC). Is this only available on MLB channels?

epitome1170
08-08-2008, 12:45 PM
Try WGN... you have to listen to Cubs broadcasters but surely it is on there.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 12:46 PM
Try WGN... you have to listen to Cubs broadcasters but surely it is on there.
Yep for us non locals its WGN on Friday and Saturday. ESPN on Sunday.

Stewie
08-08-2008, 12:47 PM
Try WGN... you have to listen to Cubs broadcasters but surely it is on there.

It's not on WGN or the Fox Sports Network that I get.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 12:50 PM
Yep for us non locals its WGN on Friday and Saturday. ESPN on Sunday.
Its not on Today for some reason?:shake:

Saturday's game is on Fox. It's their game of the week.

Sunday's game is ESPN's game of the week.

epitome1170
08-08-2008, 12:51 PM
It's not on WGN or the Fox Sports Network that I get.

I have no clue then. Sadly, I am at work so I dont even get an oppurtunity to watch that anyway.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 12:55 PM
Baseball tonight video preview of the series
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3524789&categoryId=2521705

ESPN preview of the games this weekend:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/preview?gameId=280808116

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 12:58 PM
I have no clue then. Sadly, I am at work so I dont even get an oppurtunity to watch that anyway.
$20.00 bucks a year you can watch it on your pc from mlb.com

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/subscriptions/espn.jsp?partnerId=ESPN&affiliateID=ESPN_ADTYPE

StcChief
08-08-2008, 01:02 PM
Internet wgnradio.com blocks it. MLB want's money bastards.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 01:24 PM
Internet wgnradio.com blocks it. MLB want's money bastards.
The ESPN gamecast can usually be viewed from work and its free. At least its real time.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/gamecast?gameId=280808116

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 01:26 PM
Joe Mather leading off?

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 01:30 PM
No WGN, no FSN HD for those wondering... It is on Comcast HD if anyone gets it.

Frazod
08-08-2008, 01:32 PM
It' on DTV Channel 665.

I can't watch it because I'm taking off for the weekend shortly. Go Cards!

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 01:42 PM
0-0 after 1

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 01:50 PM
I hate ****in Edmonds.

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 01:54 PM
I ****in' love Edmonds.

Flustrated
08-08-2008, 01:55 PM
The section from :21-:28 will go down with Cronkite telling the nation of JFK's death as the two greatest somber news deliveries of all time.

I bet this kid just wet his pants crying...:clap:

epitome1170
08-08-2008, 01:58 PM
I see the trend of not being able to hit left handers continue. That makes no sense at all.

epitome1170
08-08-2008, 02:00 PM
Well, Mather apparently doesnt have his head up his ass.

:clap:

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 02:05 PM
Well, Mather apparently doesnt have his head up his ass.

:clap:
Our beloved ol grissly ex vet tees off on us but the next inning our young gun repays the favor. Karma

epitome1170
08-08-2008, 02:06 PM
Our FORMER beloved ol grissly ex vet tees off on us but the next inning our young gun repays the favor. Karma


FYP :D

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 02:18 PM
Edmonds...EPIC FAIL.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 02:19 PM
Good dp by Albert...I liked that at bat a lot better than Jim's first :D

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 02:19 PM
What's that? Edmonds got a flax seed injection in his knee?

epitome1170
08-08-2008, 02:20 PM
That is definitely more like the Edmonds we all have learned to grow tired of.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 02:25 PM
That is definitely more like the Edmonds we all have learned to grow tired of.
ROFL

But I can't find it in myself to hate on Jimmy. Too many good memories prior to 2007.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 02:25 PM
ROFL

But I can't find it in myself to hate on Jimmy. Too many good memories prior to 2007.

That homerun made me dislike him a lot more... be it fair to him or not.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 02:26 PM
Nice D Cubbies.

epitome1170
08-08-2008, 02:27 PM
ROFL

But I can't find it in myself to hate on Jimmy. Too many good memories prior to 2007.

My older sister loves Edmonds and has for years... not sure what she thinks now that he is a Cub.

I have never been a huge fan of his bat... he strikes out and grounds into DP too many times for me in key situations. I want a guy that can be more consistent.

epitome1170
08-08-2008, 02:27 PM
Nice D Cubbies.
Let's hope we can capitalize on it now.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 02:28 PM
Looper you stupid shit! Let it hit you!

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 02:29 PM
Terrible.

epitome1170
08-08-2008, 02:30 PM
WTF?!

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 02:31 PM
Looper you stupid shit! Let it hit you!
What was it? A suicide squeeze?

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 02:34 PM
What was it? A suicide squeeze?

Yeah, the pitch was thrown right at his feet...even if it hit him on the bounce Soto wouldn't have been able to recover in time to get the out.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 02:41 PM
Thanks for going to second, and thanks for loggygagging it Schumaker, you dumb f*ck.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 02:42 PM
Thanks for going to second, and thanks for loggygagging it Schumaker, you dumb f*ck.Looked like he was running hard to me...

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 02:43 PM
Damn now they take the bat out of Pujols hand but you can't give up a free base if Keenedy fails

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 02:43 PM
2-1 Cards...Kennedy still sucks tho.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 02:44 PM
Looked like he was running hard to me...

Not until he rounded second. It shouldn't have been that close.

And Pinella is a **** for walking Pujols.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 02:45 PM
Damn now they take the bat out of Pujols hand but you can't give up a free base if Keenedy fails
friggin knew it. Ludwick has to make them pay

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 02:46 PM
Not until he rounded second. It shouldn't have been that close.

And Pinella is a **** for walking Pujols.
sets up the double play or 3 run homer

epitome1170
08-08-2008, 02:46 PM
I cant really blame them though.

Come on Ludwick

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 02:47 PM
Ludwick walks too... Bases loaded for Glaus to pop out.

epitome1170
08-08-2008, 02:47 PM
Ok... Come on Glaus at least get the runner on third home.

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 02:47 PM
Just where he wants them.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 02:48 PM
I can't wait to see the Cardinals' bullpen get lit up.
It will don't worry.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 02:48 PM
****IN SHIT!!!

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 02:49 PM
Since when does Soriano have a throwing arm?

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 02:49 PM
The Cardinals have no one to blame but themselves if they lose...No way should Soriano have thrown Mather out that badly.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 02:51 PM
The Cardinals have no one to blame but themselves if they lose...No way should Soriano have thrown Mather out that badly.
What did he do leave late?

epitome1170
08-08-2008, 02:51 PM
The Cardinals have no one to blame but themselves if they lose...No way should Soriano have thrown Mather out that badly.
QFT

Squeeze play blown up and now this... horrible small ball.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 02:52 PM
Since when does Soriano have a throwing arm?

Since always...

He can't field worth a shit, probably the worst LF I've ever seen...but he can f*cking throw the ball...he lead the league in OF assists with the Nationals a few years back.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 02:55 PM
QFT

Squeeze play blown up and now this... horrible small ball.
Looks like Looper is doing great or the Chicago bats are asleep.

vailpass
08-08-2008, 02:55 PM
Every day at Wrigley is a good day. Go Cubbies!

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 02:56 PM
Since always...

He can't field worth a shit, probably the worst LF I've ever seen...but he can f*cking throw the ball...he lead the league in OF assists with the Nationals a few years back.

Which is interesting given that he was a second baseman.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 02:57 PM
What did he do leave late?

It almost looked like he was stumbling about halfway down the line.

F*ck you, Edmonds.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 02:57 PM
Once again, this is for Edmonds 4321

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 02:58 PM
Every day at Wrigley is a good day. Go Cubbies!
I use to fall asleep when I was a young whippersnapper listening to Harry Carey and Jack Buck broadcast the Cardinal games on KMOX.

Was there ever any truth to the rumor that Harry Carey had an affair with a Bush wife and thats why he was sent packing?

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 02:58 PM
What did he do leave late?

I really don't know what was going on... Soriano was only a few feet from the track and Mather was out by a few feet... Wasn't close at all.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 02:59 PM
Which is interesting given that he was a second baseman.

You're dumb.

He played LF for the Nationals...he was a huge bitch about it at first...claiming he wouldn't play for the Nationals if he had to play LF...but he did, and he sucked at it, but he lead the league in outfield assists that year and became the first 40-40-20 player in MLB history.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:00 PM
I use to fall asleep when I was a young whippersnapper listening to Harry carey and Jack Buck broiadcast the Cardinal games on KMOX.

Was there ever any truth to the rumor that Harry Carey had an affair with a Bush wife and thats why he was sent packing?
I never heard about the affair, but he amde some critical comments about the Busch family on-air. He never had a good relationship with them, and if there really was an affair, then that would make sense.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 03:01 PM
this ain't looking good. We don't have the bullpen to hold a 1 run lead. Is it too late to call up Wainright?

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:01 PM
You're dumb.

He played LF for the Nationals...he was a huge bitch about it at first...claiming he wouldn't play for the Nationals if he had to play LF...but he did, and he sucked at it, but he lead the league in outfield assists that year and became the first 40-40-20 player in MLB history.

Actually you're the idiot...He played second until he was traded to the Nationals. And the only reason he led the league in assists is because he is a shit outfielder so everyone tests him, and occasionally he passes.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:05 PM
**** EDMONDS

POND_OF_RED
08-08-2008, 03:06 PM
Edmonds is the SHIT!!!!

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:06 PM
You're dumb.

He played LF for the Nationals...he was a huge bitch about it at first...claiming he wouldn't play for the Nationals if he had to play LF...but he did, and he sucked at it, but he lead the league in outfield assists that year and became the first 40-40-20 player in MLB history.

You really are a dumbass, you know that.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:06 PM
Actually you're the idiot...He played second until he was traded to the Nationals. And the only reason he led the league in assists is because he is a shit outfielder so everyone tests him, and occasionally he passes.

Have you all gone mad?

That's what I just ****ing said.

I never said he didn't play 2nd base...I know he played 2nd base...I know he played 2nd base for the Yankees...

Shit, I even know he played SS in the minor leagues before moving to 2nd base because of Derek Jeter....

I know he played 2nd base in Texas...

Hamas tried telling me he played 2nd base in Washington.

He didn't. He played LF. He was awful in LF...

But he does, and always has, had an excellent arm from the OF, which is evidenced by the fact he had 22 OF assists in 2006, which led the team that year by a whopping 19 over now Royal Jose Guillen...and also led all of the major leagues...

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 03:06 PM
**** EDMONDS
I think he's made his point. But he was washed up with us. It was time to go.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:07 PM
You really are a dumbass, you know that.

Typical response after you n00b'd yourself with false information...

He played 2nd for the Nationals ROFL

Nothing like a know-it-all pseudo baseball fan that knows jack shit.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:08 PM
Have you all gone mad?

That's what I just ****ing said.

I never said he didn't play 2nd base...I know he played 2nd base...I know he played 2nd base for the Yankees...

Shit, I even know he played SS in the minor leagues before moving to 2nd base because of Derek Jeter....

I know he played 2nd base in Texas...

Hamas tried telling me he played 2nd base in Washington.

He didn't. He played LF. He was awful in LF...

But he does, and always has, had an excellent arm from the OF, which is evidenced by the fact he had 22 OF assists in 2006, which led the team that year by a whopping 19 over now Royal Jose Guillen...and also led all of the major leagues...

Where did I say that he played second for the Nationals?

Saying that he was a second baseman at one point doesn't mean he played second for the Nationals, you dumb f*ck.

As always, you incorrectly read my post. The "interesting" point is that he has any kind of a gun at all, given that most second baseman have weak throwing arms.

Continue on your nonsensical rant though. Would you like to tell us all what your Madden IQ is now?

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:09 PM
Typical response after you n00b'd yourself with false information...

He played 2nd for the Nationals ROFL

Nothing like a know-it-all pseudo baseball fan that knows jack shit.

He never said anything about him playing second for the Nats...you're digging yourself into a hole you can't get out of here...

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 03:10 PM
Just great. We each have 2 runs, 6 hits and 1 error after 7 innings. Even steven.

I don't like our chances in a 2 inning game. :mad:

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 03:10 PM
**** EDMONDSHahahahahahahaha.

Think I'm gonna go buy me one o' them Jim Edmonds jerseys.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:11 PM
Just great. We each have 2 runs, 6 hits and 1 error after 7 innings. Even steven.

I don't like our chances in a 2 inning game. :mad:

Meh...If we can get a run or two, we're fine with two innings. Run Springer and Perez out there and we're good. Anything beyond that we might as well just give to the Cubs.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 03:11 PM
Meh...If we can get a run or two, we're fine with two innings. Run Springer and Perez out there and we're good. Anything beyond that we might as well just give to the Cubs.
Springer?:cuss:

Whats Loopers pitch count?

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:12 PM
Just great. We each have 2 runs, 6 hits and 1 error after 7 innings. Even steven.

I don't like our chances in a 2 inning game. :mad:

The last time I checked, Marmol isn't Mariano Rivera. Settle down.

Fairplay
08-08-2008, 03:13 PM
Let's go Cubbies!!!!!

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:13 PM
Where did I say that he played second for the Nationals?

Saying that he was a second baseman at one point doesn't mean he played second for the Nationals, you dumb f*ck.

As always, you incorrectly read my post. The "interesting" point is that he has any kind of a gun at all, given that most second baseman have weak throwing arms.

Continue on your nonsensical rant though. Would you like to tell us all what your Madden IQ is now?
Most 2nd baseman in ****ing high school have weak throwing arms...but not in the big leagues...moron. Sure, not everyone throws as hard as Shawon Dunston at 2nd base...but you have to have a strong arm to play 2nd base in the majors...

And I said he lead the league in outfield assists in 2006 with the Nationals, and you said that was interesting seeing how he played 2nd base.

You are the king of being wrong and trying to turn it around on someone else...you are so full of shit it's hilarious. You should change your name to 'pseudo intellectual', it would be very fitting.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 03:14 PM
there we go. Come on Pujols lets get the mojo flowing.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:15 PM
Most 2nd baseman in ****ing high school have weak throwing arms...but not in the big leagues...moron. Sure, not everyone throws as hard as Shawon Dunston at 2nd base...but you have to have a strong arm to play 2nd base in the majors...

And I said he lead the league in outfield assists in 2006 with the Nationals, and you said that was interesting seeing how he played 2nd base.

You are the king of being wrong and trying to turn it around on someone else...you are so full of shit it's hilarious. You should change your name to 'pseudo intellectual', it would be very fitting.

He didn't mean he played second base that year...He said he WAS a second baseman, as in he formerly played second base.

And you're wrong again, most second basemen in the league do have shit arms. Learn baseball or get the hell off this thread.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:15 PM
He never said anything about him playing second for the Nats...you're digging yourself into a hole you can't get out of here...

Well if he thinks 2nd baseman don't have strong arms in the major leagues, he's simply a dumbass...

This isn't high school baseball...

Craig Biggio...a catcher, a 2nd baseman, a center fielder...strong arm.

Mark DeRosa...strong arm.
Mark Grudzielanek...strong arm.
Chase Utley...strong arm.
Jeff Kent...strong arm.
Dan Uggla...strong arm.

Lets name some 2nd baseman with weak arms? Much tougher, I know...

And I'm sorry you had to deal with that pussy ass David Eckstein at shortstop who can't even throw the ball sidearm for a few years...

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:15 PM
Most 2nd baseman in ****ing high school have weak throwing arms...but not in the big leagues...moron. Sure, not everyone throws as hard as Shawon Dunston at 2nd base...but you have to have a strong arm to play 2nd base in the majors...

And I said he lead the league in outfield assists in 2006 with the Nationals, and you said that was interesting seeing how he played 2nd base.

You are the king of being wrong and trying to turn it around on someone else...you are so full of shit it's hilarious. You should change your name to 'pseudo intellectual', it would be very fitting.

You aren't this stupid, man. Hate to point it out to you, but the guy with the weakest arms on your team will almost always be the right side of the infield.

Furthermore, he played second for 4 years and left for 2 1/2 because he was Ryan Braun'ed out there.

You're too busy masturbating to yourself trying to play the gotcha game, inserting shit I didn't say into my posts to realize how much of an ass you're making of yourself. Nothing new though.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:16 PM
He didn't mean he played second base that year...He said he WAS a second baseman, as in he formerly played second base.

And you're wrong again, most second basemen in the league do have shit arms. Learn baseball or get the hell off this thread.

Hahahaha, you're ****ing insane.

Most major league 2nd baseman have strong arms...

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:17 PM
Well if he thinks 2nd baseman don't have strong arms in the major leagues, he's simply a dumbass...

This isn't high school baseball...

Craig Biggio...a catcher, a 2nd baseman, a center fielder...strong arm.

Mark DeRosa...strong arm.
Mark Grudzielanek...strong arm.
Chase Utley...strong arm.
Jeff Kent...strong arm.
Dan Uggla...strong arm.

Lets name some 2nd baseman with weak arms? Much tougher, I know...

And I'm sorry you had to deal with that pussy ass David Eckstein at shortstop who can't even throw the ball sidearm for a few years...I can throw the ball hard to a guy standing 30 feet from me too...

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:19 PM
Sure, not everyone throws as hard as Shawon Dunston at 2nd base.

If I were as stupid as you, I'd try and turn this around into, OMGWTFBBQ, Hootie thinks Dunston played 2nd when he was a career shortstop!!

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:19 PM
You aren't this stupid, man. Hate to point it out to you, but the guy with the weakest arms on your team will almost always be the right side of the infield.

Furthermore, he played second for 4 years and left for 2 1/2 because he was Ryan Braun'ed out there.

You're too busy masturbating to yourself trying to play the gotcha game, inserting shit I didn't say into my posts to realize how much of an ass you're making of yourself. Nothing new though.
Soriano was a shortstop before he was a 2nd baseman...captain Derek Jeter was in his way...

And, Michael Young played 2nd base until he moved to SS to make way for Soriano...

In high school, yes, 2nd baseman typically have weak arms...not in the pros.

Most 2nd baseman in the majors, especially younger 2nd baseman, were SS with strong arms before having to move to 2nd base because the veteran star player is already there...

Most teams have established SS already...and 2nd base is an easy transition.

You're simply a fool if you think 90% of major league second baseman couldn't transition to LF, like Soriano, and put up huge assist numbers...

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 03:21 PM
glaus is going to have to do something.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:21 PM
I can throw the ball hard to a guy standing 30 feet from me too...

Turning a double play from 2nd base requires much more arm strength than at shortstop...****stick.

Lets see you turn a major league double play from 2nd base...

THIS ISN'T HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL...

You don't hide weak arms at 2nd base...you typically hide them at 1st base or LF...in fact, you hide your weak fielders, generally, at 1st base or LF, hence the reason Soriano plays left and not center...

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:21 PM
Soriano was a shortstop before he was a 2nd baseman...captain Derek Jeter was in his way...

And, Michael Young played 2nd base until he moved to SS to make way for Soriano...

In high school, yes, 2nd baseman typically have weak arms...not in the pros.

Most 2nd baseman in the majors, especially younger 2nd baseman, were SS with strong arms before having to move to 2nd base because the veteran star player is already there...

Most teams have established SS already...and 2nd base is an easy transition.

You're simply a fool if you think 90% of major league second baseman couldn't transition to LF, like Soriano, and put up huge assist numbers...And why do they put up huge assist numbers? Oh lets think about it...Because they have weak arms! Everyone runs on them? Or does the all-knowing Hootie have another excuse that he thinks makes him sound like he knows what he's talking about?

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:22 PM
Hahahaha, you're ****ing insane.

Most major league 2nd baseman have strong arms...

Compared to a guy off the street? Yeah. So do bullpen catchers.

Compared to majors leaguers? F*ck no. Generally, your catcher, SS, 3B, and right fielder have the strongest throwing arms.

If you crave attention this much, just submit a photo of yourself to hotchickswithdouchebags.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:23 PM
Turning a double play from 2nd base requires much more arm strength than at shortstop...****stick.

Lets see you turn a major league double play from 2nd base...

THIS ISN'T HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL...

You don't hide weak arms at 2nd base...you typically hide them at 1st base or LF...in fact, you hide your weak fielders, generally, at 1st base or LF, hence the reason Soriano plays left and not center...

So you're now admitting Soriano has a weak arm?

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:23 PM
And why do they put up huge assist numbers? Oh lets think about it...Because they have weak arms! Everyone runs on them? Or does the all-knowing Hootie have another excuse that he thinks makes him sound like he knows what he's talking about?

Hysterical.

He was also 2nd in the league in putouts behind Jason Bay.

If you think Alfonso Soriano has a weak arm, you are simply insane.

I bet he can throw a baseball at least 90 MPH.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:23 PM
You don't hide weak arms at 2nd base...you typically hide them at 1st base or LF.

ROFL, and where is Soriano again?

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 03:24 PM
Marrrrrrrrrrmollllllllllllllllllll

From 3-0 to strikeout.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:24 PM
Compared to a guy off the street? Yeah. So do bullpen catchers.

Compared to majors leaguers? F*ck no. Generally, your catcher, SS, 3B, and right fielder have the strongest throwing arms.

If you crave attention this much, just submit a photo of yourself to hotchickswithdouchebags.

Are you kidding? Why do you think I added Craig Biggio to the conversation? He was a converted catch (strong arm) to 2nd base...

I know who "generally" has strong throwing arms...I know that Jose Guillen has one of the strongest arms in baseball, and yes, like Soriano, plays LF because he can't hit worth a lick.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:25 PM
Hysterical.

He was also 2nd in the league in putouts behind Jason Bay.

If you think Alfonso Soriano has a weak arm, you are simply insane.

I bet he can throw a baseball at least 90 MPH.

Putouts means that they hit the ball to him... Shit if Chris Duncan was there he would have been second in putouts too, and NO ONE would be calling him a good outfielder.

Flustrated
08-08-2008, 03:25 PM
My goodness.....
I bet Marmol gives Lou lots of gray hair and heart problems.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 03:25 PM
Man on 2nd with Pujols, Ludwick and Glaus due up with one out. Another blown chance.:cuss:

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:25 PM
Turning a double play from 2nd base requires much more arm strength than at shortstop...****stick.

And throwing out a runner at first from the hole requires much more gas than that.

Jesus, you an idiot. Just die in a fire.

Fairplay
08-08-2008, 03:25 PM
If I were as stupid as you, I'd try and turn this around into, OMGWTFBBQ, Hootie thinks Dunston played 2nd when he was a career shortstop!!



sic'em Hamas! sic'em !!

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:25 PM
Are you kidding? Why do you think I added Craig Biggio to the conversation? He was a converted catch (strong arm) to 2nd base...

I know who "generally" has strong throwing arms...I know that Jose Guillen has one of the strongest arms in baseball, and yes, like Soriano, plays LF because he can't hit worth a lick.
You're stupider than hell.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:25 PM
ROFL, and where is Soriano again?

You guys cannot be this thickheaded...

You hide your WORST fielders in LF...or your WORST arms...I stated, at the very beginning, he might be the most atrocious LF (him and ManRam) I have ever seen...but he has a strong, accurate arm out there.

Are you guys reading or just being complete ****ing morons?

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:26 PM
I know that Jose Guillen has one of the strongest arms in baseball, and yes, like Soriano, plays LF because he can't hit worth a lick.

Since when do you put your worst hitters in left?

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 03:27 PM
By the way, Hootie currently rates a "retarded" on the Shawon-O-Meter.

Fairplay
08-08-2008, 03:27 PM
glaus is going to have to do something.



He did. He threw his helmet down.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:27 PM
You guys cannot be this thickheaded...

You hide your WORST fielders in LF...or your WORST arms...I stated, at the very beginning, he might be the most atrocious LF (him and ManRam) I have ever seen...but he has a strong, accurate arm out there.

Are you guys reading or just being complete ****ing morons?

Unless you went and edited your posts to try to cover your trail of shit, you never said that buddy.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:27 PM
He did. He threw his helmet down.
ROFL

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 03:28 PM
McCelllan the home town season ticket holder comes in to save the day and strikes out Soriano on 3 pitches.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:28 PM
And throwing out a runner at first from the hole requires much more gas than that.

Jesus, you an idiot. Just die in a fire.

Hahahahaha.

When did I say MLB 2nd baseman have stronger arms than SS?

He said he could throw the ball 30 feet, too...I said I doubt he could turn a big league double play from 2nd base...

I know AROD has a stronger arm than f*cking Rickie Weeks.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:29 PM
Since always...

He can't field worth a shit, probably the worst LF I've ever seen...but he can f*cking throw the ball...he lead the league in OF assists with the Nationals a few years back.

first post I made Jewish dick licker

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:29 PM
Since when do you put your worst hitters in left?

If I said that, I meant worst fielders or worst arms...

Your best hitters go in left and 1st because most of the time they can't field worth a shit

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:30 PM
Funny how Vlad Guerrero, who has the 2nd strongest outfield arm in the bigs, has only 5 assists this year. He must have a shit arm, right Hootie?

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:30 PM
Hahahahaha.

When did I say MLB 2nd baseman have stronger arms than SS?

He said he could throw the ball 30 feet, too...I said I doubt he could turn a big league double play from 2nd base...

I know AROD has a stronger arm than f*cking Rickie Weeks.

What does A-Rod have to do with Soriano being a shit defender? And for the record, A-Rod plays third base, not shortstop...

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 03:31 PM
McCelllan the home town season ticket holder comes in to save the day and strikes out Soriano on 3 pitches.
Damn, takes down Lee too.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:31 PM
If I said that, I meant worst fielders or worst arms...

Your best hitters go in left and 1st because most of the time they can't field worth a shit

So you are supposed to read between the lines of what I post, but not what you post?

Ok.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:32 PM
What does A-Rod have to do with Soriano being a shit defender? And for the record, A-Rod plays third base, not shortstop...

everyone knows ARod is a better SS than Jeter...

For real, you guys are ****ing idiots.

I said, right away, Soriano sucks in LF but has a great arm, accurate and strong.

First post I made...

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:32 PM
Hahahahaha.

When did I say MLB 2nd baseman have stronger arms than SS?

He said he could throw the ball 30 feet, too...I said I doubt he could turn a big league double play from 2nd base...

I know AROD has a stronger arm than f*cking Rickie Weeks.

You were making a dumbass comparison of the arm strength needed by a 2nd baseman to turn a DP, when a SS is always making longer throws, many times across their own body and from a greater distance away.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:34 PM
everyone knows ARod is a better SS than Jeter...

For real, you guys are ****ing idiots.

I said, right away, Soriano sucks in LF but has a great arm, accurate and strong.

First post I made...

And everyone knows that for the first four years of his career Soriano played 2nd, but like a f*cking guido, you felt the need to try and prove how macho you were, and subsequently, made an ass out of yourself yet again.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:34 PM
and when I made a reference to Shawon, I said not every 2nd baseman can throw it 105 MPH, I know that...

I'd say 80% of MLB 2nd baseman started out in the minors as shortstops...and I'd say 90% of MLB 2nd baseman have stronger arms than their teams starting LF...

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:34 PM
You were making a dumbass comparison of the arm strength needed by a 2nd baseman to turn a DP, when a SS is always making longer throws, many times across their own body and from a greater distance away.

I'm done arguing with this guy, and I'm embarrassed that we have such ignorant people as Chiefs fans.

BigRedChief
08-08-2008, 03:34 PM
man that McCellean is going to be a great addition to the team.

Fairplay
08-08-2008, 03:34 PM
Hootie, why does it seem like you always have a few posters pile on to you about your comments?

Don't you ever wonder who the common denominator is?

And maybe you have a problem with people?

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:35 PM
You were making a dumbass comparison of the arm strength needed by a 2nd baseman to turn a DP, when a SS is always making longer throws, many times across their own body and from a greater distance away.

No, I was simply saying not every throw a 2nd baseman makes is a 30 foot lob to the 1st baseman...a lot of them, most of them even, take serious arm strength, including double plays and backhands in the hole.

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 03:35 PM
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Fairplay
08-08-2008, 03:36 PM
I'm done arguing with this guy, and I'm embarrassed that we have such ignorant people as Chiefs fans.



Some just stand out more then others.

Midnight_Doucebag is another jerk.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:36 PM
Do all people make up statistics to try to prove their points? Just wondering...

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:37 PM
I'm done arguing with this guy, and I'm embarrassed that we have such ignorant people as Chiefs fans.

Why, because I was right the entire time?

Hamas: Since when did Soriano have a good throwing arm.
Hootie: Always.
Hamas: Oh, he was a 2nd baseman once.
Hootie: So? Most 2nd baseman have strong arms, this isn't high school baseball.
Jewish dick licker: You're an idiot, me and Hamas are dating, I want to be cool and try to be a know-it-all too, I can throw a baseball, Hamas treats me like a real woman, I love him.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:37 PM
man that McCellean is going to be a great addition to the team.

Best guy in the pen. I wonder if the rumors of him going to the rotation next year are true :hmmm:

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:37 PM
Do all people make up statistics to try to prove their points? Just wondering...

Name 5 starting MLB 2nd baseman with weak throwing arms and I'll shut up.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:38 PM
Why, because I was right the entire time?

Hamas: Since when did Soriano have a good throwing arm.
Hootie: Always.
Hamas: Oh, he was a 2nd baseman once.
Hootie: So? Most 2nd baseman have strong arms, this isn't high school baseball.
Jewish dick licker: You're an idiot, me and Hamas are dating, I want to be cool and try to be a know-it-all too, I can throw a baseball, Hamas treats me like a real woman, I love him.
Thanks for the quick recap. That's exactly how it went down. :rolleyes:

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:39 PM
You think that eventually Tony would realize that Ankiel is awful in high leverage situations.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:39 PM
Thanks for the quick recap. That's exactly how it went down. :rolleyes:

does he shave down there weekly? Monthly? Never? Seriously, I want to know...

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:40 PM
As I was saying...awful.

Fairplay
08-08-2008, 03:40 PM
Wow, Cubs came that close to messing up that easy pop fly.

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 03:40 PM
WR-P > P-OF

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:41 PM
Iz2 has been much better offensively this week. He still gargles balls, but he's been passable this week.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:41 PM
Here's a list of 2007 2nd baseman...name the weak arms. Come on, do it...

* Josh Barfield
* Ronnie Belliard
* Miguel Cairo
* Robinson Cano
* Jamey Carroll
* Jose Castillo
* Luis Castillo
* Alex Cora
* Ray Durham
* Mark DeRosa
* Mark Ellis
* Marcus Giles
* Ruben Gotay
* Tony Graffanino
* Mark Grudzielanek
* Brendan Harris
* Aaron Hill
* Orlando Hudson
* Tadahito Iguchi
* Akinori Iwamura (began career as third baseman)
* Kelly Johnson
* Howie Kendrick
* Jeff Kent
* Ian Kinsler
* Adam Kennedy
* José Celestino López
* Mark Loretta
* Kazuo Matsui
* Dustin Pedroia
* Brandon Phillips
* Plácido Polanco
* Brian Roberts
* Dan Uggla
* Chase Utley
* José Valentín
* José Vidro
* Rickie Weeks
* Josh Wilson

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:41 PM
WR-P > P-OF

Touche.

Fairplay
08-08-2008, 03:42 PM
Cardinals have a runner on third, 2 outs. :eek:

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 03:43 PM
Look how stupid you are, Tony LaRussa.

Look how stupid you are.

Flustrated
08-08-2008, 03:44 PM
Here's a list of 2007 2nd baseman...name the weak arms. Come on, do it...

* Josh Barfield
* Ronnie Belliard
* Miguel Cairo
* Robinson Cano
* Jamey Carroll
* Jose Castillo
* Luis Castillo
* Alex Cora
* Ray Durham
* Mark DeRosa
* Mark Ellis
* Marcus Giles
* Ruben Gotay
* Tony Graffanino
* Mark Grudzielanek
* Brendan Harris
* Aaron Hill
* Orlando Hudson
* Tadahito Iguchi
* Akinori Iwamura (began career as third baseman)
* Kelly Johnson
* Howie Kendrick
* Jeff Kent
* Ian Kinsler
* Adam Kennedy
* José Celestino López
* Mark Loretta
* Kazuo Matsui
* Dustin Pedroia
* Brandon Phillips
* Plácido Polanco
* Brian Roberts
* Dan Uggla
* Chase Utley
* José Valentín
* José Vidro
* Rickie Weeks
* Josh Wilson

I hate to say it, but Jose definately had a very weak arm

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:44 PM
There are a few on there with weak arms, for sure, but I'd say 50% of them have played a lot of 3rd base as well as 2nd base, and some shortstop...

And 3rd baseman, by rule, are suppose to have the strongest arms of the three...

Most of those 2nd baseman, like I said, played a whole bunch of shortstop in their careers.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:48 PM
I am going to laugh when Edmonds hits a walk off...

F*ck the Cardinals fans on here...I bet most of you live in the Kansas City area...fairweather fans.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:48 PM
There are a few on there with weak arms, for sure, but I'd say 50% of them have played a lot of 3rd base as well as 2nd base, and some shortstop...

And 3rd baseman, by rule, are suppose to have the strongest arms of the three...

Most of those 2nd baseman, like I said, played a whole bunch of shortstop in their careers.

And do you know why most of them were moved to second?

Lack of arm strength. If Shortstops are moved to third it's due to lack of mobility.

Dumbass.

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 03:49 PM
Soto singles to set things up for the Card-Killer.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:49 PM
I am going to laugh when Edmonds hits a walk off...

F*ck the Cardinals fans on here...I bet most of you live in the Kansas City area...fairweather fans.

This is why Cubs fans are the most reviled in the NL. Sorry to the UP's and SeaofRed's of the world.

vailpass
08-08-2008, 03:50 PM
I use to fall asleep when I was a young whippersnapper listening to Harry Carey and Jack Buck broadcast the Cardinal games on KMOX.

Was there ever any truth to the rumor that Harry Carey had an affair with a Bush wife and thats why he was sent packing?

Ah yes Jack Buck, classic. Maybe I'm getting old but it seems they don't make announcers like they used to. Just hearing some of those guys' voices you know it's summer and you don't have a care.

I always understood that to be the truth, Harry banged Auggies old lady. Of course I can't prove it......

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:50 PM
I am going to laugh when Edmonds hits a walk off...

F*ck the Cardinals fans on here...I bet most of you live in the Kansas City area...fairweather fans.

Yeah, I've been a fair weather fan since I got a Cardinals hat for my first birthday...

seclark
08-08-2008, 03:50 PM
F*ck the Cardinals fans on here...I bet most of you live in the Kansas City area...fairweather fans.

ROFL
you're a f@ckin jerkoffROFL
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Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:51 PM
And do you know why most of them were moved to second?

Lack of arm strength. If Shortstops are moved to third it's due to lack of mobility.

Dumbass.

Why does it have to be lack of arm strength?

Perhaps, I know this is a real tough concept, PERHAPS a guy like Scott Rolen comes along who possesses a STRONGER arm and they move the guy to 2nd base because 2nd base is an easy position to play if you were a SS or a 3rd baseman...

Never once did I say 2nd base was tougher to play than SS or 3rd, because it is, by far, easier...easier in high school, in low A, AAA and the pros...

All I said, and I'm right here, is, the VAST majority of MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 2nd baseman have strong throwing arms.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:51 PM
Throw nothing but a fastball to that cocksucker. He'll never catch it.

Fairplay
08-08-2008, 03:52 PM
Com'on Edmunds!

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:53 PM
Why does it have to be lack of arm strength?


Because you don't expect any more offensive production from one MI position over the other, and both need to have good lateral quickness.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:53 PM
Hootie, did you ever steal a laptop?

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:53 PM
Ah yes Jack Buck, classic. Maybe I'm getting old but it seems they don't make announcers like they used to. Just hearing some of those guys' voices you know it's summer and you don't have a care.

I always understood that to be the truth, Harry banged Auggies old lady. Of course I can't prove it......

There's a YouTube clip where he discusses this.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 03:55 PM
On to extras.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:55 PM
Going to extras... Great game today, no matter who ends up winning.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:55 PM
Because you don't expect any more offensive production from one MI position over the other, and both need to have good lateral quickness.

Not true, especially with 3rd baseman...most power hitters come up as 3rd baseman or 1st baseman...

You are speaking circa 1950...

This is a new day and age...most every good power hitter/athlete that is drafted, if you pay attention to the draft, is a 3rd baseman or SS...or catcher...and then they get converted to other positions in the minors.

So when Ryan Braun gets the call up, poor ol' 3rd baseman before him either moves to 2nd, to 1st, to the OF or to a new team...and then poor ol' Ryan Braun, who can hit anything, sucks in the field so he moves to the OF and makes way for the next big thing coming up from AA.

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 03:55 PM
Yeah, I've been a fair weather fan since I got a Cardinals hat for my first birthday...Easily bribed, eh?

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:57 PM
Hootie, did you ever steal a laptop?

I tried stealing Hamas' while you were blowing him but it was too risky because the dude ramming you from behind had a good look at where I'd have to be to get to the laptop.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 03:57 PM
Easily bribed, eh?

Ha... My dad loves Cardinal baseball. When he was growing up in Kirksville it was either the Cards or the KC A's. The latter was so popular they're now in Oakland.

StcChief
08-08-2008, 03:57 PM
f*ck the Cardinals fans on here...I bet most of you live in the Kansas City area...fairweather fans.
You have no clue.about our fandom, where / when we started being Cardinal fans unless you search on here, it's clearly posted F Stick.

Listened to Harry Carry when he was with Cards, watched on B & W TV.....
back before you were a gleam in you Grandpa's eye....

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 03:58 PM
You have no clue.about our fandom, where / when we started being Cardinal fans unless you search on here, it's clearly posted F Stick.

Listened to Harry Carry when he was with Cards, watched on B & W TV.....
back before you were a gleam in you Grandpa's eye....

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sounds pretty fairweather to me! Go Royals! Go Cubs!

Mark McGwire pride!

Fairplay
08-08-2008, 03:59 PM
Easily bribed, eh?



Heh.......:D

Flustrated
08-08-2008, 03:59 PM
cubs are 15w- 17L in 1 run games
Cards are 21w- 20L

Fairplay
08-08-2008, 04:00 PM
I wonder if Frazod went to the game.

He hasn't been on this forum today i don't believe.

If you see a fight in the stands, it most likely could involve him.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 04:00 PM
Not true, especially with 3rd baseman...most power hitters come up as 3rd baseman or 1st baseman...

You are speaking circa 1950...

This is a new day and age...most every good power hitter/athlete that is drafted, if you pay attention to the draft, is a 3rd baseman or SS...or catcher...and then they get converted to other positions in the minors.

So when Ryan Braun gets the call up, poor ol' 3rd baseman before him either moves to 2nd, to 1st, to the OF or to a new team...and then poor ol' Ryan Braun, who can hit anything, sucks in the field so he moves to the OF and makes way for the next big thing coming up from AA.

What the f*ck are you talking about?

I said Middle infielders. The reason why they played shortstop before they were drafted is because they were the best athletes on the field. Pujols played short in high school. Hell, one of my college roommates tried to spike him to break up a double play and he just verticaled his ass while he slung it over to first.

You value offense from you projected shortstops or second baseman to be roughly equal. It's not a corner infield, nor an outfield position. Because of that, the differentiating factor between second and short is arm strength, since they both need equal lateral quickness and speed, as well as glovework.

Flustrated
08-08-2008, 04:01 PM
Cubs are 7w- 5L in extra innings
Cards are 6w-9L

StcChief
08-08-2008, 04:02 PM
sounds pretty fairweather to me! Go Royals! Go Cubs!

Mark McGwire pride!that's right a fairly well weathered fan. STFU

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 04:02 PM
DeRosa rocketed that over to first.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 04:03 PM
What the f*ck are you talking about?

I said Middle infielders. The reason why they played shortstop before they were drafted is because they were the best athletes on the field. Pujols played short in high school. Hell, one of my college roommates tried to spike him to break up a double play and he just verticaled his ass while he slung it over to first.

You value offense from you projected shortstops or second baseman to be roughly equal. It's not a corner infield, nor an outfield position. Because of that, the differentiating factor between second and short is arm strength, since they both need equal lateral quickness and speed, as well as glovework.

Dude...

What are you talking about? I know the best athletes play short...the best athletes are the ones that become pros...****ing Jason Giambi was probably an amazing fielder back in grammar school.

I'm saying, almost every MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 2nd baseman has a good, strong throwing arm.

That's my only argument. You've yet to successfully rebut it, I gave you a list of 2nd baseman, and you can't name one with a weak arm. You don't know shit.

You didn't even know Soriano had a good arm in the OF...

You are again, like usual, a pseudo intellect. I'd expect nothing less.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 04:03 PM
That's now the third inning we've run ourselves out of.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 04:03 PM
What the **** Pujols???

Flustrated
08-08-2008, 04:05 PM
Dear Albert,

Sit Down.

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 04:05 PM
Don't mess with football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fairplay
08-08-2008, 04:05 PM
What the **** Pujols???

Well, i would assume the coach gave him the go ahead to steal.

And also with 2 outs already why not take a chance, you wouldn't think the Cubs would be expecting it.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 04:05 PM
Franklin. Game over.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 04:06 PM
Well, i would assume the coach gave him the go ahead to steal.

And also with 2 outs already why not take a chance, you wouldn't think the Cubs would be expecting it.If he got thrown out stealing, that would be one thing. He took off while the pitcher was getting his signs.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 04:06 PM
Smarzdjzzaadfjdajldf2 is a stud...I really questioned his choice to play baseball over football when he was a sure fire 1st rounder in the NFL...

I know that, pro baseball players that stick will make a boat load more money than football players, but how'd that work out for Drew Henson and others?

Baseball is much tougher to break into the pros...but he did get a nice signing bonus, I just figured we'd never hear about him again.

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 04:06 PM
That's now the third inning we've run ourselves out of.LaRussa is a ghanoush.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 04:08 PM
after the Cubs sweep this series, I see the Cardinals finishing out with 85 wins, tops.

They are due for a collapse.

POND_OF_RED
08-08-2008, 04:08 PM
I really like what I've seen of Samardzija. In a rivalry game to pitch scoreless baseball in a tie game in late innings is very impressive with his lack of big league experience. Definitely added more depth to the bullpen. Also was that supposed to be a hit and run or something? Just watching it on gameday and I was shocked to see Pujols stealing with the bat in Ludwicks hands.

Flustrated
08-08-2008, 04:09 PM
LaRussa is a ghanoush.

Has he been drinking again?

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 04:09 PM
after the Cubs sweep this series, I see the Cardinals finishing out with 85 wins, tops.

They are due for a collapse.

The Cubs won't sweep, but I'll take 85 wins. Not bad when the Tribune pegged us for 63.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 04:10 PM
Ludwick is on the juice.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 04:10 PM
The Cubs won't sweep, but I'll take 85 wins. Not bad when the Tribune pegged us for 63.
they should finish about 11 games out. Not bad...

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 04:10 PM
Has he been drinking again?

We'd be better off if he was. He'd be asleep right now and the best mind in baseball would be calling the shots.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 04:10 PM
Dude...

What are you talking about? I know the best athletes play short...the best athletes are the ones that become pros...****ing Jason Giambi was probably an amazing fielder back in grammar school.

I'm saying, almost every MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 2nd baseman has a good, strong throwing arm.

That's my only argument. You've yet to successfully rebut it, I gave you a list of 2nd baseman, and you can't name one with a weak arm. You don't know shit.

You didn't even know Soriano had a good arm in the OF...

You are again, like usual, a pseudo intellect. I'd expect nothing less.

Kinsler has an awful arm. Kennedy's is weak for a major league player, Luis Castillo does not have a strong major league arm, nor do Ellis, Carroll, Barfield, Kendrick, Kelly Johnson, Hudson, Cairo, among others.

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 04:12 PM
oh shit not howry

welp gg

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 04:12 PM
they should finish about 11 games out. Not bad...

You're a dumb shit. This was supposed to be a rebuilding year for us. That would be like the Chiefs going 8-8 this year, which I'm sure all of us will take.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 04:12 PM
Just read this from a blog, exactly what I'm saying:

"Following in the footsteps of the shortstop revolution of the late '90s, second base is a position increasingly populated by middle-of-the-lineup hitters. Most middle infielders are expected to supply consistent offense as well as solid defense, and second basemen are no longer just shortstops with weak arms."

Hamas, wake up, it isn't 1950 anymore...

Fairplay
08-08-2008, 04:13 PM
Has he been drinking again?

I think hes just messing with Jewish Rabbi.

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 04:14 PM
STOP THROWING SO MANY ****ING SLIDERS

YOU ARE TERRIBLE AT THROWING SLIDERS

JESUS CHRIST

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 04:14 PM
Hootie:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Second_baseman

Maybe the most respected baseball site out there:

The only fielding ability that is not really required for second basemen is a strong throwing arm. Because the second baseman's position is closer to first base than the shortstop's or third baseman's, he is not required to have as strong an arm as the other infielders.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 04:14 PM
You're a dumb shit. This was supposed to be a rebuilding year for us. That would be like the Chiefs going 8-8 this year, which I'm sure all of us will take.

What are you rebuilding? You have a bunch of never-beens pitching out of their asses in your starting rotation, you shipped off Haren for Mulder (lol), you have a never-been Ludwick playing out of his ass...what are you rebuilding? Where is the youth? It's Pujols and Ludwick...maybe Carpenter if he stays healthy.

The Cardinals are a surprise...that's for sure...but they aren't going to go anywhere...they will probably end up falling flat on their faces...you can only play above your ability for so long...

Now the Cubs, talk about a well built team...if Harden stays healthy this may be the best team from 1 to 25 in the last decade.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 04:14 PM
Just read this from a blog, exactly what I'm saying:

"Following in the footsteps of the shortstop revolution of the late '90s, second base is a position increasingly populated by middle-of-the-lineup hitters. Most middle infielders are expected to supply consistent offense as well as solid defense, and second basemen are no longer just shortstops with weak arms."

Hamas, wake up, it isn't 1950 anymore...

No link? Is it your blog? Did that even come from a blog?

Fairplay
08-08-2008, 04:15 PM
STOP THROWING SO MANY ****ING SLIDERS

YOU ARE TERRIBLE AT THROWING SLIDERS

JESUS CHRIST


I think hes just messing with Jesus Christ.

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 04:15 PM
You're a dumb shit. This was supposed to be a rebuilding year for us. That would be like the Chiefs going 8-8 this year, which I'm sure all of us will take.Actually, 8-8 would pretty much be the chimp's bollocks. 4-12 or 16-0, please.

POND_OF_RED
08-08-2008, 04:15 PM
STOP THROWING SO MANY ****ING SLIDERS

YOU ARE TERRIBLE AT THROWING SLIDERS

JESUS CHRIST

In his defense he's terrible at throwing the other pitches as well.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 04:16 PM
I think hes just messing with Jewish Rabbi.
Wouldn't surprise me... God I hate Tony. It's hard to argue with the results the last 8 seasons, but I hate him.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 04:16 PM
I do not understand this strike zone at all today.

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 04:16 PM
Maybe the most respected baseball site out thereThat belongs to BP.

Well, FJM and then BP.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 04:16 PM
Hootie:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Second_baseman

Maybe the most respected baseball site out there:

The only fielding ability that is not really required for second basemen is a strong throwing arm. Because the second baseman's position is closer to first base than the shortstop's or third baseman's, he is not required to have as strong an arm as the other infielders.

Drr...

I know that. I never once said that.

I said, AND I CONTINUE TO SAY, in today's game...as of 2008...the majority of 2nd baseman have strong throwing arms...

Do they necessarily need to have a strong arm? No. Duh. But, AGAIN, like I said...with the recent trend of power hitting 2nd baseman...most of them possess strong arms...most of them were 3rd baseman or SS in high school/minor leagues.

And I'm not going to list a bunch of guys and say they have strong arms...I don't pull shit out of my ass like you...you have no idea who had a good arm out of that list and who didn't...you just try and look way smarter than you really are...for god's sake you didn't even know Soriano had a good arm in the OF...and he is one of the best out there.

Short Leash Hootie
08-08-2008, 04:18 PM
No link? Is it your blog? Did that even come from a blog?

Yep, it was my blog. You caught me.

http://goesdownlooking.blogspot.com/2008/07/mid-summer-mistake-say-no-to-cano.html

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 04:18 PM
What are you rebuilding? You have a bunch of never-beens pitching out of their asses in your starting rotation, you shipped off Haren for Mulder (lol), you have a never-been Ludwick playing out of his ass...what are you rebuilding? Where is the youth? It's Pujols and Ludwick...maybe Carpenter if he stays healthy.

The Cardinals are a surprise...that's for sure...but they aren't going to go anywhere...they will probably end up falling flat on their faces...you can only play above your ability for so long...

Now the Cubs, talk about a well built team...if Harden stays healthy this may be the best team from 1 to 25 in the last decade.

F*cking moron. Moron.

Brian Anderson, Jesse Todd, Colby Rasmus. Jaime Garcia, Chris Perez. Clayton Mortenson, Jason Motte. All will contribute heavily to the major league club next year. This isn't football. Rebuilding means that your farm system is being set up to supplant the big leaguers.

Fairplay
08-08-2008, 04:19 PM
Jewish Rabbi, er...why do you call yourself that?

Do you want to be a Rabbi or something?

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 04:19 PM
That belongs to BP.

Well, FJM and then BP.

Boo subscription sites.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 04:19 PM
What are you rebuilding? You have a bunch of never-beens pitching out of their asses in your starting rotation, you shipped off Haren for Mulder (lol), you have a never-been Ludwick playing out of his ass...what are you rebuilding? Where is the youth? It's Pujols and Ludwick...maybe Carpenter if he stays healthy.

The Cardinals are a surprise...that's for sure...but they aren't going to go anywhere...they will probably end up falling flat on their faces...you can only play above your ability for so long...

Now the Cubs, talk about a well built team...if Harden stays healthy this may be the best team from 1 to 25 in the last decade.

The youth? How about our entire outfield? Even though Ludwick is in his 30s he's never played in the majors all that much. Our bullpen? McClellan, Garcia, Perez, Worrell has been up...

We've had 11 players make their big league debut this year twatstamp. And as for the Cubs being the best team in the last decade ROFL :whackit:

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-08-2008, 04:20 PM
Drr...

I know that. I never once said that.

I said, AND I CONTINUE TO SAY, in today's game...as of 2008...the majority of 2nd baseman have strong throwing arms...

If you know that. Why do you contradict yourself in the very next sentence? If I'm talking out of my ass, and you supposedly know it, why don't you disprove me?

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 04:20 PM
Oh thank God.

POND_OF_RED
08-08-2008, 04:20 PM
Lee, Ramirez, Fukudome. Let's end this now.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 04:20 PM
Drr...

I know that. I never once said that.

I said, AND I CONTINUE TO SAY, in today's game...as of 2008...the majority of 2nd baseman have strong throwing arms...

Do they necessarily need to have a strong arm? No. Duh. But, AGAIN, like I said...with the recent trend of power hitting 2nd baseman...most of them possess strong arms...most of them were 3rd baseman or SS in high school/minor leagues.

And I'm not going to list a bunch of guys and say they have strong arms...I don't pull shit out of my ass like you...you have no idea who had a good arm out of that list and who didn't...you just try and look way smarter than you really are...for god's sake you didn't even know Soriano had a good arm in the OF...and he is one of the best out there.
ROFL ROFL Epic Fail Thread ROFL ROFL

Flustrated
08-08-2008, 04:20 PM
Th last time I went to see the cubs play the Cards at Wrigley, Sammy Sosa hit a walk-off in the bottom of the 17th inning. By that time, I was at the Cubby Bear drinking vodka-lemonaide watching on the big screen.

Jewish Rabbi
08-08-2008, 04:21 PM
Jewish Rabbi, er...why do you call yourself that?

Do you want to be a Rabbi or something?

Do you want to play fair or something?

Ultra Peanut
08-08-2008, 04:21 PM
Boo subscription sites.Well, yeah. I don't subscribe, either.

The Prospectus is an awesome book to read during classes, though.