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Tuckdaddy
08-17-2008, 07:34 AM
Two practice games and he's getting burned at the stake? He has 6 starts and yes they were all loses but it's common knowledge that the whole offense was awful. He was not great last night but he's out of the game before he gets a chance to bounce back.

You gotta give a young QB at least a season for that matter most of them get 3 before they are dubbed to be terrible. BC has had only 6 actual starts.

Cut the kid a break.

Wile_E_Coyote
08-17-2008, 07:50 AM
Maybe we need to make a list of the good we have seen & then of the bad

TRR
08-17-2008, 07:59 AM
Two practice games and he's getting burned at the stake? He has 6 starts and yes they were all loses but it's common knowledge that the whole offense was awful. He was not great last night but he's out of the game before he gets a chance to bounce back.

You gotta give a young QB at least a season for that matter most of them get 3 before they are dubbed to be terrible. BC has had only 6 actual starts.

Cut the kid a break.

Everyone knew this was going to happen. At least I did. Croyle is going to have to play lights out this season for everyone to get off his back...and it's simply not going to happen. He's in his first season as a starting QB with a new offensive scheme for everyone, and an average O Line that will be as inconsistent as he is this season.

I compare this season to the first season that Trent Green came here. Nearly every Chiefs fan threw him under the bus, and mocked every move he made. Now, he is arguably one of the best QB's to play in Red and Gold of all time.

It's time to be patient, and non-judgemental.

milkman
08-17-2008, 08:04 AM
Everyone knew this was going to happen. At least I did. Croyle is going to have to play lights out this season for everyone to get off his back...and it's simply not going to happen. He's in his first season as a starting QB with a new offensive scheme for everyone, and an average O Line that will be as inconsistent as he is this season.

I compare this season to the first season that Trent Green came here. Nearly every Chiefs fan threw him under the bus, and mocked every move he made. Now, he is arguably one of the best QB's to play in Red and Gold of all time.

It's time to be patient, and non-judgemental.

I really think a fair comparison would be Drew Brees in '03.

Charger fans and the media knew beyond any doubt that Brees sucked.

TRR
08-17-2008, 08:07 AM
I really think a fair comparison would be Drew Brees in '03.

Charger fans and the media knew beyond any doubt that Brees sucked.

It's a common theme these days with new, and especially young QB's.

Skip Towne
08-17-2008, 08:10 AM
We went through this same thing with LJ. Many were so enamored with Priest that they didn't want to give LJ a chance.

StcChief
08-17-2008, 08:12 AM
It matters not at this point Brodie will be there unless he fails or gets hurt.

Ari Chi3fs
08-17-2008, 09:31 AM
Maybe we need to make a list of the good we have seen & then of the bad


Good:
http://arrowheadaddict.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/k_croyleiiii.jpg

beach tribe
08-17-2008, 10:12 AM
Because people are crybaby bitches who have no idea what it's going to be like to develop a QB, and will be calling for his head every time he doesn't look like 2005 Trent Green.

Buehler445
08-17-2008, 10:19 AM
I'm on the Brodie Bandwagon. Doesn't that count for anything??! [/sarcasm]

OnTheWarpath58
08-17-2008, 10:21 AM
I really think a fair comparison would be Drew Brees in '03.

Charger fans and the media knew beyond any doubt that Brees sucked.

Uh, whoops.

There's no doubt in my mind that the Chargers at least GO to the Super Bowl, if not win it in Marty's last year, if Brees had still been there.

Cards Fan 4 Chiefs
08-17-2008, 11:54 AM
Uh, whoops.

There's no doubt in my mind that the Chargers at least GO to the Super Bowl, if not win it in Marty's last year, if Brees had still been there.

I still has flabby tits.

JuicesFlowing
08-17-2008, 12:03 PM
Two practice games and he's getting burned at the stake? He has 6 starts and yes they were all loses but it's common knowledge that the whole offense was awful. He was not great last night but he's out of the game before he gets a chance to bounce back.

You gotta give a young QB at least a season for that matter most of them get 3 before they are dubbed to be terrible. BC has had only 6 actual starts.

Cut the kid a break.

I entirely agree, but we might as well get used to it here on the Planet. He has improved ... and I think he will continue to do so.

beach tribe
08-17-2008, 12:06 PM
I still has flabby tits.

There's been a lot of lame ass dumbshits come through here, but you are by far the most lame and unoriginal.

At least NY58 was somewhat funny. you're just stupid.

smittysbar
08-17-2008, 12:10 PM
Two practice games and he's getting burned at the stake? He has 6 starts and yes they were all loses but it's common knowledge that the whole offense was awful. He was not great last night but he's out of the game before he gets a chance to bounce back.

You gotta give a young QB at least a season for that matter most of them get 3 before they are dubbed to be terrible. BC has had only 6 actual starts.

Cut the kid a break.

I agree. Lets also not forget that his 6 starts last season was with the worst O-Line in the league, and without LJ. Gotta give him a chance.

Rausch
08-17-2008, 12:13 PM
"At the end of the day, when I go home, she's there. It's ok, boo all you want.

I get over it...







Then under it. Then beside it. Then I smack it up, flip it, rub it down...OOOOOooooh..."

KC Tattoo
08-17-2008, 12:14 PM
I think I was the only one to wear a #12 Croyle jursey at the game last night. It some times takes time to get rythem and build momentum in a game, preseason a quarter and 2/3s of a quarter with different players in and out doesn't help much.

JuicesFlowing
08-17-2008, 12:15 PM
I agree. Lets also not forget that his 6 starts last season was with the worst O-Line in the league, and without LJ. Gotta give him a chance.

He nearly lead the Chiefs to victory in Indy ... I didn't think he played bad last year for a young buck. I still think they should have started him all season long, would have been nice for him to have an extra 10 games of experience. Of course the O-line would have ended his career pre-maturely, so nevermind :D

KC Tattoo
08-17-2008, 12:15 PM
I really thought they should have let Brodie play the two min drill in first half so he can get the experience. Geeze.

JuicesFlowing
08-17-2008, 12:17 PM
I really thought they should have let Brodie play the two min drill in first half so he can get the experience. Geeze.

I was hoping for that also. And why didn't Huard play? Anyone know?

KC Tattoo
08-17-2008, 12:19 PM
I was hoping for that also. And why didn't Huard play? Anyone know?


Didn't hurt my feelings any that Huard didn't play but good question.

smittysbar
08-17-2008, 12:20 PM
I was hoping for that also. And why didn't Huard play? Anyone know?

Because he is a worthless pile of dog shit :D

KC Tattoo
08-17-2008, 12:21 PM
Oh I know, Huard is a vet doesnt need to play. /Hermism

Rausch
08-17-2008, 12:21 PM
He nearly lead the Chiefs to victory in Indy ... I didn't think he played bad last year for a young buck. I still think they should have started him all season long, would have been nice for him to have an extra 10 games of experience. Of course the O-line would have ended his career pre-maturely, so nevermind :D

He was put in a no-win situation and that's exactly what he got...

Pablo
08-17-2008, 12:21 PM
I was hoping for that also. And why didn't Huard play? Anyone know?Because Thigpen is the sh*t and he's taking us to the SB someday when Brodie gets smashed...

RustShack
08-17-2008, 12:21 PM
The Chiefs have been doing fine(including Croyle) when all the starters were on the field...

Rausch
08-17-2008, 12:22 PM
Because Thigpen is the sh*t and he's taking us to the SB someday when Brodie gets smashed...

Pigpen is a mess and lucky he ever got on TV...

Skip Towne
08-17-2008, 12:22 PM
I was hoping for that also. And why didn't Huard play? Anyone know?

Because they already know what he can do.

Chiefnj2
08-17-2008, 12:26 PM
I was hoping for that also. And why didn't Huard play? Anyone know?


If Huard plays well you have a QB controversy.

luv
08-17-2008, 12:27 PM
Pigpen is a mess and lucky he ever got on TV...

You could always tell who he's supposed to throw to. He looks for them first thing like, "You gonna be ready? I'm gonna throw it now." And what's with the fake pump? Is his just more obvious than others?

OctoberFart
08-17-2008, 12:30 PM
Everyone here knows in their hearts that Croyle has all the tools but can't stay healthy or put it all together. How many games has he won as a starter?

JuicesFlowing
08-17-2008, 12:32 PM
Everyone here knows in their hearts that Croyle has all the tools but can't stay healthy or put it all together. How many games has he won as a starter?

Completely irrelevant at this point and time. If he were 2-4 instead of 0-6, would it really matter RIGHT NOW? It's about development and getting the new offense going ... Last year's 0-6 doesn't mean anything more than him getting experience.

Rausch
08-17-2008, 12:34 PM
Everyone here knows in their hearts that Croyle has all the tools but can't stay healthy or put it all together. How many games has he won as a starter?

Same number as that 600lb QB you trot out there this fall...

JuicesFlowing
08-17-2008, 12:37 PM
If Huard plays well you have a QB controversy.

I hope I never read those words again ... Especially with Huard The Old on our team ...

Pablo
08-17-2008, 12:43 PM
Pigpen is a mess and lucky he ever got on TV...Don't trash Tyler...He's Atlantic Coastal's finest, and a damn sure step up from Brobie Coyle.

Scrambling rules!!!!

FAX
08-17-2008, 12:46 PM
I've said it before, but Croyle has disaster written all over him. Clearly, he isn't willing to take a massive hit to the face by a 250 pound defensive end without getting rid of the football first. That's inexcusable. Also, he has thrown incomplete passes. No quarterback will ever make it in this league by throwing incomplete passes. Especially overthrows. And especially overthrows to a receiver who's new to the team. How does he expect these new receivers to get any better if he doesn't throw the ball right to them. I don't see what Herm is waiting for. The sooner Croyle goes, the sooner we can move on to a real quarterback like Fa-Va-Rah or Roger Staubach or Johnny Unitas or Bart Starr.

FAX

KC Tattoo
08-17-2008, 12:55 PM
I've said it before, but Croyle has disaster written all over him. Clearly, he isn't willing to take a massive hit to the face by a 250 pound defensive end without getting rid of the football first. That's inexcusable. Also, he has thrown incomplete passes. No quarterback will ever make it in this league by throwing incomplete passes. Especially overthrows. And especially overthrows to a receiver who's new to the team. How does he expect these new receivers to get any better if he doesn't throw the ball right to them. I don't see what Herm is waiting for. The sooner Croyle goes, the sooner we can move on to a real quarterback like Fa-Va-Rah or Roger Staubach or Johnny Unitas or Bart Starr.

FAX


Yea or better yet, QBs like Dave Kreig, Steve Bono, Joe Montana in his late prime years, Grrbaclk yep there you go. oh or a 11 year clipboard holding vet Huard F***YEA!

luv
08-17-2008, 12:57 PM
I've said it before, but Croyle has disaster written all over him. Clearly, he isn't willing to take a massive hit to the face by a 250 pound defensive end without getting rid of the football first. That's inexcusable. Also, he has thrown incomplete passes. No quarterback will ever make it in this league by throwing incomplete passes. Especially overthrows. And especially overthrows to a receiver who's new to the team. How does he expect these new receivers to get any better if he doesn't throw the ball right to them. I don't see what Herm is waiting for. The sooner Croyle goes, the sooner we can move on to a real quarterback like Fa-Va-Rah or Roger Staubach or Johnny Unitas or Bart Starr.

FAX

This is why the Chiefs have never developed a QB.

FAX
08-17-2008, 01:11 PM
This is why the Chiefs have never developed a QB.

Developing quarterbacks is vastly overrated, Ms. luv. You spend all this time and money and draft picks to find a guy. Then, what do you have? An incomplete pass thrower. That's what. And a chicken. An incomplete pass thrower and a chicken who throws the ball away instead of taking the sack and the elbow shot to the eye socket like a real man. And an overthrower. An incomplete pass thrower and a chicken and a guy who overthrows another guy just because the offensive line hasn't blocked a few guys. What's that about? Just because a few measly defensive tackles are running free into the pocket and sticking their hands in your face doesn't mean you can just overthrow a guy. It's disrespectful to the game. No. We'd be better off with a quarterback who knows how to play real football on day one.

FAX

vailpass
08-17-2008, 01:22 PM
Developing quarterbacks is vastly overrated, Ms. luv. You spend all this time and money and draft picks to find a guy. Then, what do you have? An incomplete pass thrower. That's what. And a chicken. An incomplete pass thrower and a chicken who throws the ball away instead of taking the sack and the elbow shot to the eye socket like a real man. And an overthrower. An incomplete pass thrower and a chicken and a guy who overthrows another guy just because the offensive line hasn't blocked a few guys. What's that about? Just because a few measly defensive tackles are running free into the pocket and sticking their hands in your face doesn't mean you can just overthrow a guy. It's disrespectful to the game. No. We'd be better off with a quarterback who knows how to play real football on day one.

FAX


Luv if you look straight up in the air you might see Fax's point. It is about 500 feet over your head. :)

OctoberFart
08-17-2008, 01:22 PM
Queefs should of traded up for a real QB prospect the past few years. Cutler, Russel, Rivers, Young, Lienert, Big Ben etc..

Pablo
08-17-2008, 01:25 PM
KC Chiefs (the best team ever) should of traded up for a real QB prospect the past few years. Cutler, Russel, Rivers, Young, Lienert, Big Ben etc..Of those QB's listed, Cutler and Roethlisberger are the only ones who will do sh*t in this league.

PastorMikH
08-17-2008, 01:29 PM
I haven't had a chance to really watch the game yet, the internet feed was so choppy I didn't really get a good look.

But, how is it that Brodie did so bad? I didn't see any INTs in his stats, it sounds like instead of throwing downfield he was throwing underneath - taking what was given to him instead of forcing it. The only think I see in his stat line is he was just over 50% on passing. A few of those incompletes came because no one was able to get open and he threw the ball away to keep from doing something bad and a couple of others hit recievers in the hands but not caught. Personally, I'd rather he throw it away than to force the ball into double and triple coverage.

He did take the team downfield on a 10 play scoring drive to start the game. He didn't turn the ball over, he was something like 6 of 8 passing in the first quarter. I don't get it, what was so terrible about the way he played?

PastorMikH
08-17-2008, 01:31 PM
I've said it before, but Croyle has disaster written all over him. Clearly, he isn't willing to take a massive hit to the face by a 250 pound defensive end without getting rid of the football first. That's inexcusable. Also, he has thrown incomplete passes. No quarterback will ever make it in this league by throwing incomplete passes. Especially overthrows. And especially overthrows to a receiver who's new to the team. How does he expect these new receivers to get any better if he doesn't throw the ball right to them. I don't see what Herm is waiting for. The sooner Croyle goes, the sooner we can move on to a real quarterback like Fa-Va-Rah or Roger Staubach or Johnny Unitas or Bart Starr.

FAX



Mr Fax, would you stand still and let a 250 pound defensive end run at top speed towards you and hit you in the face?

I weigh more than that DE, but I'm not going to let him hit me if I can avoid him.

Pablo
08-17-2008, 01:31 PM
I don't get it, what was so terrible about the way he played?He didn't play like he was drafted in the 1st round, and he didn't play like a 14 year vet, so naturally a good deal of CP hated his performance.

Coach
08-17-2008, 01:32 PM
I haven't had a chance to really watch the game yet, the internet feed was so choppy I didn't really get a good look.

But, how is it that Brodie did so bad? I didn't see any INTs in his stats, it sounds like instead of throwing downfield he was throwing underneath - taking what was given to him instead of forcing it. The only think I see in his stat line is he was just over 50% on passing. A few of those incompletes came because no one was able to get open and he threw the ball away to keep from doing something bad and a couple of others hit recievers in the hands but not caught. Personally, I'd rather he throw it away than to force the ball into double and triple coverage.

He did take the team downfield on a 10 play scoring drive to start the game. He didn't turn the ball over, he was something like 6 of 8 passing in the first quarter. I don't get it, what was so terrible about the way he played?

I guess about the fact that his 38 yards on 13 attempts is horrible, :shrug:

luv
08-17-2008, 01:33 PM
Luv if you look straight up in the air you might see Fax's point. It is about 500 feet over your head. :)

Excuse me? I see what he's saying, and he makes a good point. I'm just saying that I'd like to see us work with him on the things that he's doing wrong to see if we can make him better instead of just automatically saying trade him or get someone better.

vailpass
08-17-2008, 01:35 PM
Excuse me? I see what he's saying, and he makes a good point. I'm just saying that I'd like to see us work with him on the things that he's doing wrong to see if we can make him better instead of just automatically saying trade him or get someone better.

OIC. Forgive me.

Otter
08-17-2008, 01:36 PM
You're referring to a fan that largely doesn't know any better.

Ignore it.

ChiefGator
08-17-2008, 01:36 PM
I don't get it, what was so terrible about the way he played?

He didn't win the Super Bowl yesterday, nor did he even get us a playoff win yesterday.

Awful...

FAX
08-17-2008, 01:41 PM
Mr Fax, would you stand still and let a 250 pound defensive end run at top speed towards you and hit you in the face?

I weigh more than that DE, but I'm not going to let him hit me if I can avoid him.

Guys like Johnny U and Sammy Baugh and Dutch Clark would take that shot, spit out a tooth, kick the DE in the nuts, and throw a touchdown, Mr. PastorMikH. Not like guys like Croyle who are too fancy dancy and throw the ball "away". Heck, sometimes Croyle even throws short passes when we could really use more yards. He's the biggest bust since Dolly Parton and talks like her, too.

FAX

R&GHomer
08-17-2008, 01:41 PM
I guess about the fact that his 38 yards on 13 attempts is horrible, :shrug:

They said going into last nights game they were going to focus on getting the running game going, and that's exactly what they did. He didn't go down field and played the underneath stuff by design. This is a young team, people need to relax...sheesh

PastorMikH
08-17-2008, 01:45 PM
Guys like Johnny U and Sammy Baugh and Dutch Clark would take that shot, spit out a tooth, kick the DE in the nuts, and throw a touchdown, Mr. PastorMikH. Not like guys like Croyle who are too fancy dancy and throw the ball "away". Heck, sometimes Croyle even throws short passes when we could really use more yards. He's the biggest bust since Dolly Parton and talks like her, too.

FAX



So, you'd rather him hold the ball, take a sack and walk back to the line with 3rd and 18 rather than 3rd and 5?

I got the impression last year that Croyle was trying to do what the coaching staff was telling him to do, not what he wanted to do. They have emphasized they want him to throw the ball away rather than take a chance and lose. Can we really fault a guy that is doing what the coaching staff is asking him to do?

Also, how many "tough guy" QBs last a long time in the league nowadays? We finally get a guy to develop into a decent QB and he's through because of injuries.

Personally, I think he should throw the ball away, then walk back into the huddle and kick whatever blocker let the DE through in the same region as Unitus would kick the DE.

PastorMikH
08-17-2008, 01:46 PM
They said going into last nights game they were going to focus on getting the running game going, and that's exactly what they did. He didn't go down field and played the underneath stuff by design. This is a young team, people need to relax...sheesh




So its his fault that he listened to his boss then!

luv
08-17-2008, 01:51 PM
So, you'd rather him hold the ball, take a sack and walk back to the line with 3rd and 18 rather than 3rd and 5?

I got the impression last year that Croyle was trying to do what the coaching staff was telling him to do, not what he wanted to do. They have emphasized they want him to throw the ball away rather than take a chance and lose. Can we really fault a guy that is doing what the coaching staff is asking him to do?

Also, how many "tough guy" QBs last a long time in the league nowadays? We finally get a guy to develop into a decent QB and he's through because of injuries.

Personally, I think he should throw the ball away, then walk back into the huddle and kick whatever blocker let the DE through in the same region as Unitus would kick the DE.
I completely agree. I'd rather lose a down than to lose yardage or have the ball possibly get intercepted. However, if he's not going to be able to take hits, maybe he needs to learn to be more mobile.

FAX
08-17-2008, 01:51 PM
Excuse me? I see what he's saying, and he makes a good point. I'm just saying that I'd like to see us work with him on the things that he's doing wrong to see if we can make him better instead of just automatically saying trade him or get someone better.

Sure. We work on his overthrows, and then what? We have to work on his incomplete passes. Then on third down conversions. Then his touchdown percentage. It goes on and on. That's what you get when you have to "develop" a young quarterback with no experience from a school like Alabama where they don't even speak English. We need a quarterback who can come in here and stop making excuses like "bad pass protection" and "no open receivers" and start throwing completions for touchdowns. He threw something like 13 times in that game. How many chances are we going to give the guy?

FAX

PastorMikH
08-17-2008, 01:53 PM
I remember how, for 2 years, how so many hated TrINT Green and kept yelling for a change. Then, when he went down in Cinncy, everyone thought we were done.


Trent had NFL experience and it took him 2-3 years to really come into his own. Even then, IMO, he was more of the game manager.

PastorMikH
08-17-2008, 01:55 PM
I completely agree. I'd rather lose a down than to lose yardage or have the ball possibly get intercepted. However, if he's not going to be able to take hits, maybe he needs to learn to be more mobile.


I could have sworn that I've seen Brodie get knocked around and even sacked a few times.

luv
08-17-2008, 01:55 PM
Sure. We work on his overthrows, and then what? We have to work on his incomplete passes. Then on third down conversions. Then his touchdown percentage. It goes on and on. That's what you get when you have to "develop" a young quarterback with no experience from a school like Alabama where they don't even speak English. We need a quarterback who can come in here and stop making excuses like "bad pass protection" and "no open receivers" and start throwing completions for touchdowns. He threw something like 13 times in that game. How many chances are we going to give the guy?

FAX

Working on overthrows will also help with the incomplete passes. More complete passes will lessen the need for third down conversions, and possibly increase the number of TD receptions. A little can go a long way is all I'm saying.

FAX
08-17-2008, 01:57 PM
This is football. Leadership means taking it right in the chin and as many times as necessary to get the win. Croyle's lipsy dipsy "throw the ball away" technique isn't going to move the chains - it's just going to embarrass us fans because he isn't going to need a pain shot in the spine at halftime. Cry me a river.

FAX

Count Zarth
08-17-2008, 02:00 PM
Chiefs fans are stupid and impatient.

Coach
08-17-2008, 02:10 PM
This is football. Leadership means taking it right in the chin and as many times as necessary to get the win. Croyle's lipsy dipsy "throw the ball away" technique isn't going to move the chains - it's just going to embarrass us fans because he isn't going to need a pain shot in the spine at halftime. Cry me a river.

FAX

So you're saying you want him to throw the ball to a well-covered receiver, especially at the end zone, instead of throwing the ball away out of the endzone?

Wow.

FAX
08-17-2008, 02:11 PM
Not as stupid as Alabama grads. And not as impatient as a wide receiver waiting for a football that never arrives because the quarterback is too busy playing namby pamby goose goose with a defensive tackle in the backfield.

FAX

vailpass
08-17-2008, 02:13 PM
This is hilarious. Was there some sort of static emission that broke everyone's sarcasm meter?

PastorMikH
08-17-2008, 02:15 PM
Top 10 reasons why Brodie won't make it in the NFL...

10 He hasn't won a game in the NFL
9 He got hurt a couple of times in college
8 He wasn't a first round pick
7 He occasionally misses a WR
6 He comes from a college that has only had 2 other QBs make the NFL
5 He can't carry 2 DEs and 2 DTs on his back at the same time and still make a throw
4 He has been known to throw an INT
3 He's too skinny
2 He throws too hard


and #1....

I played the Chiefs in Madden with him as my starting QB and lost (never mind that I suck at Madden).

luv
08-17-2008, 02:16 PM
This is hilarious. Was there some sort of static emission that broke everyone's sarcasm meter?

Oh, c'mon. FAX would never play the devil's advocate.

FAX
08-17-2008, 02:19 PM
Top 10 reasons why Brodie won't make it in the NFL...

10 He hasn't won a game in the NFL
9 He got hurt a couple of times in college
8 He wasn't a first round pick
7 He occasionally misses a WR
6 He comes from a college that has only had 2 other QBs make the NFL
5 He can't carry 2 DEs and 2 DTs on his back at the same time and still make a throw
4 He has been known to throw an INT
3 He's too skinny
2 He throws too hard


and #1....

I played the Chiefs in Madden with him as my starting QB and lost (never mind that I suck at Madden).

Glad to see you've seen the light, Mr. PastorMikH.

We've wasted enough snaps on this clod hopper and it's time to give Thigpen or somebody some playing time. Isn't there somebody from USC or somewhere we can draft next year?

FAX

ClevelandBronco
08-17-2008, 02:23 PM
Everyone knew this was going to happen. At least I did. Croyle is going to have to play lights out this season for everyone to get off his back...and it's simply not going to happen. He's in his first season as a starting QB with a new offensive scheme for everyone, and an average O Line that will be as inconsistent as he is this season.

I compare this season to the first season that Trent Green came here. Nearly every Chiefs fan threw him under the bus, and mocked every move he made. Now, he is arguably one of the best QB's to play in Red and Gold of all time.

It's time to be patient, and non-judgemental.

Trent Green is "arguably one of the best QB's to play in Red and Gold?"

How many arguments are there against him being "one of the best?"

The Chiefs have had, what, like one and a half good QBs besides Green.

You damn him with faint praise.

PastorMikH
08-17-2008, 02:24 PM
We could really use Casey Printers in there. Casey has never lost a regular season game in the NFL.

FAX
08-17-2008, 02:26 PM
So you're saying you want him to throw the ball to a well-covered receiver, especially at the end zone, instead of throwing the ball away out of the endzone?

Wow.

Well, if you want to watch pansy football, that's up to you, Mr. Coach. Quarterbacks get paid to throw the ball "to" the receiver. Not over their heads or at their feet or out of bounds like a girl just so they can avoid a mild concussion or a broken rib or two. Last time I checked, that's why they invented morphine.

FAX

luv
08-17-2008, 02:27 PM
Well, if you want to watch pansy football, that's up to you, Mr. Coach. Quarterbacks get paid to throw the ball "to" the receiver. Not over their heads or at their feet or out of bounds like a girl just so they can avoid a mild concussion or a broken rib or two. Last time I checked, that's why they invented morphine.

FAX

At least he overthrows instead of underthrowing. Maybe we need to work with our receivers to run faster.

Chiefaholic
08-17-2008, 02:29 PM
Brodie will be heckled and quite possibly booed this season. This O-Line is at least a couple drafts away to being where we're accustomed to seeing. As fans, we're spoiled ass rotten in watching a dominant line destroy opposing defenses week after week. Hopefully another draft or two, combined with a couple FA acquisitions will bring back the dominant line we're used to watching. A dominant offense and defense starts in the trenches. If the line isn't solid, everybody around them are directly affected

In the meantime, we have a young QB, with new WR's, a new offensive scheme, and a rebuilding Line. Brodie will be average at best this year, but likely in the bottom 25% stat wise. I'm patient enough to watch and wait to see him develope as he gains chemistry with his WR's and the line gells in front of him.

PastorMikH
08-17-2008, 02:33 PM
At least he overthrows instead of underthrowing. Maybe we need to work with our receivers to run faster.



Or get him taller recievers.

FAX
08-17-2008, 02:36 PM
Patience is one thing, Mr. Chiefaholic, but bad judgement is something else. We could have had Favre or Pennington. Somebody who knows how to play real football instead of some kid who throws incomplete passes and dodges defensive ends like he's afraid of a little broken leg or shoulder separation. A real leader instead of a guy who waits for receivers to "get open". Favre never did that.

FAX

TRR
08-17-2008, 03:01 PM
Trent Green is "arguably one of the best QB's to play in Red and Gold?"

How many arguments are there against him being "one of the best?"

The Chiefs have had, what, like one and a half good QBs besides Green.

You damn him with faint praise.


I could also make the arguement that Trent Green was arguably one of the best QB in the NFL when he was in his hay-day. Whatever arguement you want to make is fine. THE POINT...was that KC fans were ready to give up on Green right away.

Donkey fans...:rolleyes:

Marcellus
08-17-2008, 03:03 PM
This is hilarious. Was there some sort of static emission that broke everyone's sarcasm meter?

ROFLROFL. Mr FAX seems to have become so sarcastic that it broke the sarcasm meter of a few people, (ahmmm Ms Luv and Mr PastorMikeH.)

ClevelandBronco
08-17-2008, 03:10 PM
I could also make the arguement that Trent Green was arguably one of the best QB in the NFL when he was in his hay-day. Whatever arguement you want to make is fine. THE POINT...was that KC fans were ready to give up on Green right away.

Donkey fans...:rolleyes:

Next time you have a point (hell, it's possible, I guess) make it instead of letting us guess whether you have one.

TRR
08-17-2008, 03:12 PM
Next time you have a point (hell, it's possible, I guess) make it instead of letting us guess whether you have one.

My point (in both posts) were pretty clear....run along now.

ClevelandBronco
08-17-2008, 03:28 PM
My point (in both posts) were pretty clear....run along now.

Great. As long as your point were (sic) clear.

J Diddy
08-17-2008, 03:35 PM
Or get him taller recievers.

fatter ones will give him wider targets

PastorMikH
08-17-2008, 03:41 PM
fatter ones will give him wider targets




Eh, the taller ones would have longer arms and could reach back just as far as the fatter ones, but the fatter ones wouldn't be able to jump high enough to catch the overthrows.

:)

beach tribe
08-17-2008, 03:57 PM
I could also make the arguement that Trent Green was arguably one of the best QB in the NFL when he was in his hay-day. Whatever arguement you want to make is fine. THE POINT...was that KC fans were ready to give up on Green right away.

Donkey fans...:rolleyes:

Yeah, there's some idiots who will be bashing him if he doesn't throw for 300 yards against the Pats.

BigRedChief
08-17-2008, 04:33 PM
Who's BC?

milkman
08-17-2008, 04:49 PM
Who's BC?

Bill Cosby.......duh......




psst, nobody tell him it's Brodie Croyle

Mr. Flopnuts
08-17-2008, 04:52 PM
BC has a neanderthal mentality.

BIG K
08-17-2008, 06:50 PM
Patience is one thing, Mr. Chiefaholic, but bad judgement is something else. We could have had Favre or Pennington. Somebody who knows how to play real football instead of some kid who throws incomplete passes and dodges defensive ends like he's afraid of a little broken leg or shoulder separation. A real leader instead of a guy who waits for receivers to "get open". Favre never did that.

FAX

I agree with Fax..We should dump this freeloading piece of shit! How dare the Chiefs attempt to 'groom' a quarterback? They do not have time for that. Mr.FAX is correct, the real qb's of the game do not do pussy shit like throwing away the ball, even when they were young. Take a hit for the team, you will gain respect. Force the throws and don't pay any attention to different receivers, they need to be where the ball will be. There is no excuse for overthrowing or throwing away or even dancing around the pocket like a faggot in tights! Do your job qb man, or get out of town....

We should have dumped him last year....