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Count Alex's Losses
08-19-2008, 12:27 AM
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The Chiefsí Monday practice wasnít spirited or particularly energetic, but it was great to see the team practice on KC soil once again. With River Falls behind us for another year (more on that topic later), the Chiefs unveiled their new practice fields, indoor facility, weight room and locker rooms. Despite playing over the weekend, the Chiefs were focused and had no Wisconsin hangover today.

There has been a lot of talk in the offseason about the Chiefsí chances to win more than four games this season. With a nine-game regular season losing streak in tow, a 1-1 preseason record and the prospects for a better 2008 season at every turn, this football team has already overcome a great deal.

Saturday night, though I wasnít initially pleased by the lack of offensive punch, it was clear after talking with Head Coach Herm Edwards that the plan was simple - run the ball effectively on offense and build confidence with that portion of the offense.

The Chiefs did that, amassing 153 yards rushing. The game plan worked even though, as I stated, it was bland and boring. But it was effective. It became clear Saturday that Chan Gailey can draw up an attack his players are capable of executing.

Against the Bears, the focal point was the passing game, whereas against the Cardinals, it was the run. The fact that success was found in both areas in consecutive weeks is a good sign for the regular season.

Practice Notes:

LT Branden Albert (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3542598) - The rookie worked out on the side today with trainer. Albert was without a boot and didnít appear to limp or be in any discomfort. I was told today that its 50/50 heíll be in the lineup against the Patriots on opening day. If Albert can get back to the practice field next week, he has a chance. I doubt the Chiefs will play him against the Rams one week from Thursday, even if heís good to go.

DB Coach David Gibbs (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2696874) - The Chiefs secondary coach was really getting on his reserve corners today. Outside of the big three - Patrick Surtain (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698875), Brandon Carr (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3724379) and Brandon Flowers (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3723953) - the Chiefs must find another corner who can play in dime packages. The backups really struggled against the Cardinals, though it should be pointed out that Arizona ran Matt Leinart (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3628891) with the starting offensive line in the third quarter. This might be one area the Chiefs look to upgrade when the cuts begin.

DL Coach Tim Krumrie - It took me until now to really understand his passion for the game. During my day with Herm Edwards two weeks ago, I sat in the defensive coaches meeting room as they broke down film. Krumrie was calm, quiet and you could hardly tell he was in the room. But on the practice field today, he was yelling and using his years of experience to motivate and teach his defensive linemen.

RB Dantrell Savage - He made the 53-man roster with his performance Saturday and in my opinion, he and fellow rookie Jamaal Charles (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3723954) will become an exciting tandem of kick returners. Savage is making the most of his time on the field and itís amazing - especially when you consider he was one of the top two or three running backs at the Senior Bowl - that he slid out of the draft. After practice today Savage told reporters that he had four or five teams, including the Atlanta Falcons, who wanted to sign him. He felt that Kansas City was a better fit because it was more challenging. That speaks volumes.

DE Turk McBride (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698864) - Another solid practice for the man who leads the preseason NFL in sacks. The more he plays the better he gets. McBride has really slimmed down and owes some of his development to former Chief Jared Allen (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3716719), who took him under his wing a year ago and preached the importance of working hard in the offseason. Itís paid off for the Chiefs because McBride is now their starter at left defensive end.

LB Donnie Edwards (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698852) - He is still out with a sore hamstring, but right now the Chiefs seem content on going into the season with DeMorrio Williams, Derrick Johnson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698860) and Pat Thomas as the starters. Though individually they are still working to learn the new wrinkles of the defense, they are clearly the fastest three linebackers in camp. Iím not sure what that means for Edwards but when heís healthy that only means this group will be better.

DT Alfonso Boone (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698847) - Itís good to see that the Chiefs have moved him back inside. Right now heís going to be in about half of the plays on the interior of the defensive line. Boone was KCís best interior lineman a year ago and he really isnít a good fit outside. He, along with Tank Tyler, will rotate depending on down and distance.

WR Jeff Webb (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698881) - He was running with the first team today when the Chiefs went to a three wide receiver set. Thatís surprising considering how well Will Franklin (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2974804) has played. Speaking of the former Missouri star, he made a terrific catch over the middle in traffic when he knew he was about to be lit up by a cornerback, and thatís a great sign for his future. As far as Webb, the Chiefs are trying to give him a chance. What he does with it, and more importantly how well he plays against the Dolphins, could be a factor in his future roster position with the Chiefs.

IN OTHER NEWS:

It looks like we may have one more year of Chiefs training camp in River Falls, Wisconsin. A little birdie told me today that despite the fact the Chiefs have a brand new complex at Arrowhead, thereís a decent chance they return to the land of cheese for two-a-days next year. As you can tell, Iím not real thrilled and I hope that changes.

In Warpaint Illustrated News, we have secured a player show for this year and hope to announce it within the week. It will be different from last yearís show with Boomer Grigsby (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3654419). Also, our Out of Bounds Podcast will return on Wednesday. Hall of Fame Linebacker Bobby Bell will be our co-host for the season. Stay tuned for an announcement on that.

Deberg_1990
08-19-2008, 08:46 AM
It looks like we may have one more year of Chiefs training camp in River Falls, Wisconsin. A little birdie told me today that despite the fact the Chiefs have a brand new complex at Arrowhead, thereís a decent chance they return to the land of cheese for two-a-days next year. As you can tell, Iím not real thrilled and I hope that changes.




Whats his beef with River Falls?? Its alot cooler weather there in Late July/Early August than KC would be.

TRR
08-19-2008, 08:55 AM
I love traveling to River Falls during the summer. I would be disappointed to see them leave...

morphius
08-19-2008, 09:43 AM
It was funny last night they were showing that they were back in town and all bitter bitch jack harry could talk about last night was how the olympics with Phelps and the relay for his eighth medal doing better in the ratings then the Chiefs second preseason game. Showing that it did 10 points worse in the ratings then last years second preseason game, as if that would shock someone. The guy should really just quit, or die, whichever, just stop putting him on TV please.

okay, that was sort of off topic but I should be allowed to rant as well.

Molitoth
08-19-2008, 09:43 AM
TBH I would love to see training camp at MWSU instead... =P

Consistent1
08-19-2008, 09:46 AM
"DL Coach Tim Krumrie - It took me until now to really understand his passion for the game. During my day with Herm Edwards two weeks ago, I sat in the defensive coaches meeting room as they broke down film. Krumrie was calm, quiet and you could hardly tell he was in the room. But on the practice field today, he was yelling and using his years of experience to motivate and teach his defensive linemen. "


This guy kills me. I love his little drill that so many on here talk about. He just still wants to play and can't. If I were a guy like Dorsey, I would just knock him on his ass and say next. They need to get the D-Line going a little bit, and I don't think this is the guy to do it.

leviw
08-19-2008, 10:22 AM
How does anyone take Nick Athan seriously? He's not a journalist. He's a fan. Every time he uses 'I' as in "I think" or r"I was told" he loses credibility -- or at least he should. His history of spewing incorrect information is less than half the problem. Scout.com should be embarrassed that he's responsible for their team content.

CoMoChief
08-19-2008, 10:26 AM
I still don't think Jeff Webb deserves to make this team.

boogblaster
08-19-2008, 10:39 AM
Webb is a friend of the family ... He'll have a KC pay-check as long as Herm is there .....

blueballs
08-19-2008, 10:47 AM
it's time to break out
The Price is Right -game

Count Alex's Losses
08-19-2008, 10:57 AM
How does anyone take Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan seriously? He's not a journalist. He's a fan.

There's no reason you can't be both.

CoMoChief
08-19-2008, 10:59 AM
There's no reason you can't be both.

Being both leads to shitty articles.

Deberg_1990
08-19-2008, 11:06 AM
There's no reason you can't be both.

You can but its very hard to gain credibility and maintain objectivity with your audience.

Dicky McElephant
08-19-2008, 11:06 AM
Two games.....and nothing from Devard Darling.

Chief Chief
08-19-2008, 11:17 AM
Whats his beef with River Falls?? Its alot cooler weather there in Late July/Early August than KC would be.

It makes more sense for us...the taxpayers who voted for the tax increase so the Hunt family, CP, etc. could get new and lavish digs...to reap a small portion of the benefits of having the team stay here in KC for their training camp. They have a new indoor practice facility right here that can be used during times of intense afternoon heat. Why should we have to spend our money going to River Falls and supporting their local economy for a month and a half when the team can spend some of their big bucks in our deserving community?

I also think the "real KC Chiefs fans" (ya know who CP was referring to by that phrase) have bought the rights to travel a much shorter distance and checking in on their investment to see what they signed up for and what they can expect to see during the upcoming season.

Oh, and BTW, the weather wasn't that "alot cooler" there...4 or 5 degrees tops with similar humid conditions.

TEX
08-19-2008, 11:46 AM
I still don't think Jeff Webb deserves to make this team.

Yep.

little jacob
08-19-2008, 11:51 AM
It was funny last night they were showing that they were back in town and all bitter bitch jack harry could talk about last night was how the olympics with Phelps and the relay for his eighth medal doing better in the ratings then the Chiefs second preseason game. Showing that it did 10 points worse in the ratings then last years second preseason game, as if that would shock someone. The guy should really just quit, or die, whichever, just stop putting him on TV please.

okay, that was sort of off topic but I should be allowed to rant as well.

i have no idea why the guy hates the chiefs so much. is there a story there?

Count Alex's Losses
08-19-2008, 11:52 AM
Webb > Sippio

Deberg_1990
08-19-2008, 11:56 AM
It makes more sense for us...the taxpayers who voted for the tax increase so the Hunt family, CP, etc. could get new and lavish digs...to reap a small portion of the benefits of having the team stay here in KC for their training camp. They have a new indoor practice facility right here that can be used during times of intense afternoon heat. Why should we have to spend our money going to River Falls and supporting their local economy for a month and a half when the team can spend some of their big bucks in our deserving community?

I also think the "real KC Chiefs fans" (ya know who CP was referring to by that phrase) have bought the rights to travel a much shorter distance and checking in on their investment to see what they signed up for and what they can expect to see during the upcoming season.

Oh, and BTW, the weather wasn't that "alot cooler" there...4 or 5 degrees tops with similar humid conditions.

Makes sense. Very good post. Thanks.

Deberg_1990
08-19-2008, 11:59 AM
i have no idea why the guy hates the chiefs so much. is there a story there?

Im sure its been mentioned on here many times but to recap:

Harry is old school KC media(pre Carl)

When Carl came in he started to control and manipulate the media more and more and im guessing Harry didnt care much for it.

But yea, Whenever i hear Harry on the radio he comes off like a bitter old man. He probably needs to retire.

leviw
08-19-2008, 01:05 PM
You can but its very hard to gain credibility and maintain objectivity with your audience.

Bingo. As well has hard to gain credibility with the coaches and players you cover and your peers in the media.

He's little more than a "fan boy", and in sports journalism, there's little worse.

FAX
08-19-2008, 01:10 PM
You can but its very hard to gain credibility and maintain objectivity with your audience.

I've always thought of WPI's primary audience as being the Silent Majority equivalent of Chiefs fans. The hundreds of thousands of little old ladies, rest home residents, and young kids who love the Chiefs, but are rarely, if ever, cynical. When you look at it that way, you realize that they do a very good job of providing this particular constituency with the kind of news and information they want.

FAX

InChiefsHell
08-19-2008, 01:28 PM
I don't hate WPI...there, I said it.

Buehler445
08-19-2008, 01:53 PM
Webb > Sippio

Greater than bad does not equal good

-Parker

WilliamTheIrish
08-23-2008, 08:20 PM
Im sure its been mentioned on here many times but to recap:

Harry is old school KC media(pre Carl)

When Carl came in he started to control and manipulate the media more and more and im guessing Harry didnt care much for it.

But yea, Whenever i hear Harry on the radio he comes off like a bitter old man. He probably needs to retire.

This is pretty much all bullshit.

The correct story is that Don Fortune and Jack Harry were part of a story back in '91 or '92 where they publicly criticized Christian Okoye for holding out during that year's training camp.

The truth was that Okoye's wife gave birth to a stillborn child and he left camp to be with her. Carl was incensed (rightly so) and banished those two idiots to the back of the press box.

From that day forward Harry and Fortune have been critical of the franchise in every way.