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KC Kings
08-19-2008, 09:44 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?slug=ap-insidetherings&prov=ap&type=lgns

Trash talk backfires at the Beijing Olympics
By JOHN LEICESTER, AP Olympics Columnist
Aug 18, 2:40 pm EDT

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Latest news from Beijing BEIJING (AP)—Yelena Isinbayeva got the Olympic gold and a world record; American Jenn Stuczynski got the silver and a lesson in humility.

And we now have a new rivalry that should make woman’s pole vaulting fun to watch for many more years to come.

Big poles and big mouths don’t go together. Stuczynski knows that now. Pole vaulting isn’t basketball or boxing. It’s far too graceful of a sport for the kind of trash-talk she doled out before the Beijing Games.

“I hope we do some damage,” she had said, “and, you know, kick some Russian butt.”

Big mistake.

Isinbayeva is Russian but she understands English just fine. The greatest women’s pole vaulter of all time heard Stuczynski’s challenge loud and clear.

“I am not deaf,” she said. “It made me really angry.”

Their head-to-head clash turned Monday night at the Bird’s Nest stadium in Beijing into a showdown, with long poles instead of Don King.

First, some Cliffs Notes for those who didn’t tune into this saga, with its slightly musty Cold War whiff, in the run-up to the Olympics.

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— Stuczynski: Tall, wholesome American, natural athlete; took up pole vaulting late, had a gift for it, quickly became second-best woman’s vaulter of all time, behind the Russian.

— Isinbayeva: Lithe former gymnast who switched to pole vault when she grew too tall as a teen, hasn’t looked back since. In a class of her own.

Like any good fight, the public announcer introduced the combatants first. Isinbayeva was presented last and got the crowd’s biggest roar. No mistaking who the Bird’s Nest was rooting for.

Isinbayeva is a bit like those supermodels who supposedly don’t get out of bed for anything less than a very lucrative photo shoot. Only when the bar has reached dizzying heights that most other vaulters can’t clear does Isinbayeva deign to take her first jump.

She’s just that good.

Monday night, her first jump was 4 meters 70 (15 feet, 5 inches). She soared right over. Seven of the 11 other vaulters had already dropped out by that point.

And so up the bar went, and up again. It’s that exquisite turning of the screw that makes pole vaulting so addictive to watch. Who’ll crack first?

Women’s pole vault has only been an Olympic sport since the Sydney Games in 2000. It was an instant crowd pleaser. Almost single-handedly thanks to Isinbayeva, the sport has grown by leaps and bounds since then. Stacy Dragila’s winning height in Sydney was 4.60 (15-1), which Stuczynski and Isinbayeva now sail over that in their sleep.

On Monday night, the last two hangers on dropped out with the bar at 4.80 (15-9), leaving Isi and Stu to fight it out for the gold alone.

The Russian won by KO. She cleared 4.85 (15-11). Stuczynski vaulted no higher than 4.80. Game over.

Almost.

With the whole stadium now eating out of her hand, Isinbayeva wasn’t going to stop there. The crowd had only seen her jump twice—that was all it had taken for her to defend her Olympic crown.

She wanted to give them more … and perhaps rub that American nose just a little deeper in the dirt.

It was showtime. Isinbayeva-time. And that meant a world record.

First, she broke the Olympic record—her own, from Athens four years ago— as an appetizer.

Then, the bar went to a height it’s never been before, 5.05 (16-6 3/4).

She got it on the last of her three tries. She was celebrating even before she had fallen back to earth. She screamed. Clutched her face. Screamed some more. Did a forward somersault. Grabbed a Russian flag from someone in the crowd and set off on a lap of honor.

And that whole time, Stuczynski was made to wait, sitting on a row of plastic chairs, until Isinbayeva had cleared the magic height. It was the 24th time that the Russian had set a world record; she generally likes to eke them out one centimeter at a time.

Afterward, Stuczynski didn’t want to talk about her pre-game trash-talk, brushing off a question with an abrupt “OK, next.”

It was her first Olympics and her first medal, “I couldn’t ask for anything more,” she said.

Beaten but not cowed, she said she expects to catch Isinbayeva eventually.

“It’s just experience. She’s been in the Olympics before, she’s been in world championships, she’s jumped a decade longer than me, so it’s just a matter of time,” she said.

Isinbayeva tried not to be smug. She had done what she had set out to do: let her vaulting do the talking.

“I just wanted to prove who is the best at the Olympic Games.”

But she couldn’t resist one last little dig

“She must respect me and … know her position,” she said.

“Now she knows it.”

Demonpenz
08-19-2008, 09:51 AM
I hate this new generation pole vaulters. Act like you have been there before

Molitoth
08-19-2008, 09:52 AM
I hate trash talkers... even if they can back it up.

El Jefe
08-19-2008, 10:34 AM
Too bad she didn't back it up, and get the US another Gold.

HypnotizedMonkey
08-19-2008, 10:56 AM
This distasteful act sickens me.

Chief Chief
08-19-2008, 11:02 AM
Saw a portion of NBC's broadcast of this event last night. After she failed to stay in the competition, it appeared Stuczy sought out her coach for some compassion and encouragement but all he had to offer was a shrug and a couple of "Whatcha-gona-do?" comments. He was probably embarassed that she started the fire that may end up burning both of their careers.

Spicy McHaggis
08-19-2008, 11:52 AM
I hate this new generation pole vaulters. Act like you have been there before

You know, it's just become so commercialized now. I miss the old days where people would fly down the runway with a large pole, vaulting themselves high in the air with little regard for human life simply for the love of the game.

Demonpenz
08-19-2008, 11:58 AM
You know, it's just become so commercialized now. I miss the old days where people would fly down the runway with a large pole, vaulting themselves high in the air with little regard for human life simply for the love of the game.

I know. I grew up watching hard working pole vaulters like. Sticks Mcflyer and Running Mcfallonbluepillow that I can't stand watching the me me me attitude

blueballs
08-19-2008, 12:00 PM
I've managed to miss the olympics
so even the Phelps love isn't old
yet

HC_Chief
08-19-2008, 12:03 PM
Big poles and big mouths don’t go together.

Unbelievable.... he throws up a softball and NO ONE takes a crack at it? Seriously?

Spicy McHaggis
08-19-2008, 12:09 PM
Unbelievable.... he throws up a softball and NO ONE takes a crack at it? Seriously?

It was too easy. Figured I'd let one of the n00bs take a shot at it.

And this thread need more Allison Stokke.

http://www.mrdaz.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/764_sy070601026.jpg

Molitoth
08-19-2008, 12:38 PM
It was too easy. Figured I'd let one of the n00bs take a shot at it.

And this thread need more Allison Stokke.

http://www.mrdaz.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/764_sy070601026.jpg



ohhh very nice!

Pitt Gorilla
08-19-2008, 01:42 PM
Saw a portion of NBC's broadcast of this event last night. After she failed to stay in the competition, it appeared Stuczy sought out her coach for some compassion and encouragement but all he had to offer was a shrug and a couple of "Whatcha-gona-do?" comments. He was probably embarassed that she started the fire that may end up burning both of their careers.Her coach sounded like a complete idiot.

Ari Chi3fs
08-19-2008, 02:09 PM
It was too easy. Figured I'd let one of the n00bs take a shot at it.

And this thread need more Allison Stokke.

http://www.mrdaz.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/764_sy070601026.jpg

I was coming to Stokke this thread up... I see you have done the minions work.

El Jefe
08-19-2008, 02:27 PM
Saw a portion of NBC's broadcast of this event last night. After she failed to stay in the competition, it appeared Stuczy sought out her coach for some compassion and encouragement but all he had to offer was a shrug and a couple of "Whatcha-gona-do?" comments. He was probably embarassed that she started the fire that may end up burning both of their careers.

I wouldn't get ahead of yourself, she still took home the silver, and it's not like she lost to some scrub. It was a little verbal banter, albeit distasteful and cocky IMO, I don't think it's a huge deal. It is a competition so it shows she is competitive, but I can do without any show boating at all in the Olympics (Usain Bolt please read this). The last thing I would want to do is anything that might smear my image in front of the country I am representing. So am I shocked that someone would trash talk, no, but trash talking is not for me, your not just representing yourself, but an entire Country.

RJ
08-19-2008, 02:42 PM
It was too easy. Figured I'd let one of the n00bs take a shot at it.

And this thread need more Allison Stokke.

http://www.mrdaz.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/764_sy070601026.jpg



Not that it matters, but is she any good at pole vaulting?

CoMoChief
08-19-2008, 03:13 PM
In reference to the thread title......................(that's what she said...)

HypnotizedMonkey
08-19-2008, 03:18 PM
wow. Allison Stokke is ****in HOT! rep.

El Jefe
08-19-2008, 03:27 PM
Not that it matters, but is she any good at pole vaulting?

Yes.

El Jefe
08-19-2008, 03:27 PM
wow. Allison Stokke is ****in HOT! rep.

She has an entire thread in the pictures forum, you may have to dig it up, but it has some gems in there.

mikey23545
08-19-2008, 03:46 PM
<b>“I hope we do some damage,” she had said, “and, you know, kick some Russian butt.”</b>

They call <i>that</i> trash talking?

Russians won't last long in the NBA.

El Jefe
08-19-2008, 04:13 PM
<b>“I hope we do some damage,” she had said, “and, you know, kick some Russian butt.”</b>

They call <i>that</i> trash talking?

Russians won't last long in the NBA.

That's what I said, it's tacky but hardly offensive IMO, if it wasn't the Olympics nobody would say a thing, but it is the Olympics, soooooo lock it up.

penchief
08-19-2008, 06:50 PM
These days, humility is not much of an American trait.

Ari Chi3fs
08-19-2008, 06:52 PM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/e8/fullj.bd53fe93f710831b5427a1a8eaafff61/bd53fe93f710831b5427a1a8eaafff61-getty-81973090mw080_olympics_day_.jpg

Leryn Franco...

Mecca
08-19-2008, 07:00 PM
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I wouldn't get ahead of yourself, she still took home the silver, and it's not like she lost to some scrub. It was a little verbal banter, albeit distasteful and cocky IMO, I don't think it's a huge deal. It is a competition so it shows she is competitive, but I can do without any show boating at all in the Olympics (Usain Bolt please read this). The last thing I would want to do is anything that might smear my image in front of the country I am representing. So am I shocked that someone would trash talk, no, but trash talking is not for me, your not just representing yourself, but an entire Country.

I find Usain Bolt amusing.

Buehler445
08-19-2008, 07:34 PM
I find Usain Bolt amusing.

Costas is all pissed that he LOOKED AROUND. **** that. I ran some track, and it is totally not out of the ordinary to look around. I couldn't even tell until they showed the replay.

Good gawd. Calm the fugg down. He won by like 3 meters. Let him look around. He didn't taunt, he didn't talk shit, he just hit his chest once in celebration. I beat people by the largest margin I can remember, I'm gonna be more than a little happy.

NewChief
08-19-2008, 07:50 PM
It was too easy. Figured I'd let one of the n00bs take a shot at it.

And this thread need more Allison Stokke.

http://www.mrdaz.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/764_sy070601026.jpg

Wife and I were briefly watching the women's pole vaulting the other night, and I must have gotten confused and thought I was in a sports bar with the boys, because as we're sitting in silence I casually said, "There's this really hot pole vaulter. Wonder if she's in the Olympics?" Then said nothing else.

The wife just looked at me like I'd lost my mind.