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SPchief
08-24-2008, 11:59 PM
Sportscenter just said that Chpper Jones has never won a batting title in his hall of fame carrer. Now don't get me wrong, I think that Chipper is a pretty decent player, but what has he ever done to be considered for the hall?

Fruit Ninja
08-25-2008, 12:08 AM
great hitter and consistent.

DaneMcCloud
08-25-2008, 12:11 AM
The dude's a badass. He's always there, he comes up with clutch hits and he's just a hard working, everyday player.

He deserves to be in the Hall.

Without guys like him, it just becomes a "numbers" game.

chiefs1111
08-25-2008, 12:37 AM
The dude's a badass. He's always there, he comes up with clutch hits and he's just a hard working, everyday player.

He deserves to be in the Hall.

Without guys like him, it just becomes a "numbers" game.

Yeah I agree,and since he"deserves to be there" it means he will never get in,cause the voters are to dumb to see it

Mecca
08-25-2008, 01:21 AM
He's a Hall of Famer, he would be if he retired now, but he likely has several more years he'll get in.

SPchief
08-25-2008, 02:01 AM
He's a Hall of Famer, he would be if he retired now, but he likely has several more years he'll get in.



Because of what?

SPchief
08-25-2008, 02:02 AM
:spock:Yeah I agree,and since he"deserves to be there" it means he will never get in,cause the voters are to dumb to see it

Mecca
08-25-2008, 02:02 AM
Pull up his overall stats.....he also won a league MVP award I believe...

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-25-2008, 02:03 AM
Chipper Jones is not a HOF'er.

He was a very good, at times great, hitter, but I don't think that he's done enough to get in.

SPchief
08-25-2008, 02:03 AM
The dude's a badass. He's always there, he comes up with clutch hits and he's just a hard working, everyday player.

He deserves to be in the Hall.

Without guys like him, it just becomes a "numbers" game.


I'm hoping that this is sarcasm

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-25-2008, 02:03 AM
Pull up his overall stats.....he also won a league MVP award I believe...

Yeah, and so has Jimmy Rollins.

SPchief
08-25-2008, 02:04 AM
Pull up his overall stats.....he also won a league MVP award I believe...



Again, I hope the sarcasm is heavy.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-25-2008, 02:06 AM
If you follow baseball-ref's HOF monitor, he would be in, but if you look at his #s, he stacks up most favorably with Larry Walker, who was a better all-around player, and has no chance of getting in.

Mecca
08-25-2008, 02:07 AM
I believe he'll get in just because he was the most well known and focal point player of the Braves division winning streak...

He'll also finish with some really nice stats and baseball at it's heart is a stats game.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-25-2008, 02:12 AM
I believe he'll get in just because he was the most well known and focal point player of the Braves division winning streak...

He'll also finish with some really nice stats and baseball at it's heart is a stats game.

Oh he *will* get in. I personally don't think he should.

Mecca
08-25-2008, 02:13 AM
Oh he *will* get in. I personally don't think he should.

Oh I thought it was about if he would or not, that's why I said he was a lock...

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-25-2008, 02:17 AM
Oh I thought it was about if he would or not, that's why I said he was a lock...

Yeah...I just can't really remember a time where I thought to myself, "Oh shit, we're playing the Braves, that means we're gonna face Chipper Jones."

He put up good (not great) HR #s in a time where the ball was flying out of the yard at record pace. He always got on base and hit for a good average, but he was never a guy that I absolutely feared, like a Pujols, A-Rod, Manny, Big Papi, Bonds, et. al....

Mecca
08-25-2008, 02:22 AM
The baseball HOF also rewards longevity which he obviously does have.

SPchief
08-25-2008, 02:23 AM
The baseball HOF also rewards longevity which he obviously does have.

So having longevity means the HOF?

Mecca
08-25-2008, 02:26 AM
So having longevity means the HOF?

Look at all the supposed "lock stats" that get you in, you have to play forever to achieve them....

If you are a very good player for 20+ years you'll get in the HOF, take Craig Biggio for example, no one feared him or thought he was awesome yet he's gonna get in.

SPchief
08-25-2008, 02:30 AM
Look at all the supposed "lock stats" that get you in, you have to play forever to achieve them....

If you are a very good player for 20+ years you'll get in the HOF, take Craig Biggio for example, no one feared him or thought he was awesome yet he's gonna get in.


Name 3 players in that have played for 20+ years that have retired in the last 5 years or will retire in the next 5 years

Mecca
08-25-2008, 02:37 AM
Craig Biggio
Ken Griffey Jr


Those are 2......there's alot of other guys "in the mix" like Frank Thomas and the like.

SPchief
08-25-2008, 02:41 AM
Craig Biggio
Ken Griffey Jr


Those are 2......there's alot of other guys "in the mix" like Frank Thomas and the like.

None of them have been around 20 years EDIT, without looking it up, maybe Griffey has been. But he's a HOFR before the longivity

Jayhawkerman2001
08-25-2008, 02:55 AM
Sportscenter just said that Chpper Jones has never won a batting title in his hall of fame carrer. Now don't get me wrong, I think that Chipper is a pretty decent player, but what has he ever done to be considered for the hall?

the only thing i can think of is his consistency over the years. He's been one of those guys you can count on to hit around 300 and hit over 20 homers a year. but to me, that shouldn't be considered a hall of fame career, because there are plenty of those guys out there.

The Bad Guy
08-25-2008, 04:47 AM
As a Mets fan, I absolutely think he should be in.

The guy's been a consistent hitting machine his whole career. Some of his seasons were down right disgusting.

Probably the best switch hitter I'll ever see.

The Bad Guy
08-25-2008, 04:47 AM
the only thing i can think of is his consistency over the years. He's been one of those guys you can count on to hit around 300 and hit over 20 homers a year. but to me, that shouldn't be considered a hall of fame career, because there are plenty of those guys out there.

That consistently hit in the 300's with 20 + HRs?

There are far fewer than you think.

Chief Chief
08-25-2008, 05:47 AM
I haven't checked out CJ's stats or awards, but I'd think the voters sitting on the fence will be favorably swayed simply because he's stuck with one team.

Demonpenz
08-25-2008, 06:08 AM
He is going to get in also because he never took steriods and has been on the forefront of saying how he did it the right way

Tiger's Fan
08-25-2008, 06:15 AM
A 3.10 lifetime hitter with 405 HRs, 1362 RBIs, with 2249 hits. Yeah, in the steroid era, a clean player with those numbers gets in easy. Guys like Chipper will take the place of those scumbag cheaters.

Simply Red
08-25-2008, 06:16 AM
whatever

pr_capone
08-25-2008, 06:54 AM
A .310 lifetime hitter with 405 HRs, 1362 RBIs, with 2249 hits. Yeah, in the steroid era, a clean player with those numbers gets in easy. Guys like Chipper will take the place of those scumbag cheaters.

+1

1 WS Championship

6x All-Star

2x Silver Slugger

1x League MVP

Hold the ALL TIME NL record for most HRs by a switch hitter (3rd overall behind Mantle & Murray)

*Atlanta* Braves ALL TIME RBI Leader

8 consecutive 100+ RBI seasons

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He deserves the hall. In fact, the dude is a shoe in.

Sfeihc
08-25-2008, 07:45 AM
He's proficient at scoring Hooters waitresses.

RJ
08-25-2008, 08:27 AM
If you follow baseball-ref's HOF monitor, he would be in, but if you look at his #s, he stacks up most favorably with Larry Walker, who was a better all-around player, and has no chance of getting in.


Jones has played in 20 postseason series with 3 World Series. Walker played in 6 postseason series, the only World Series coming with the Cardinals at the end of his career.

Jones will finish with considerably more HR's than Walker.

Chicks dig the long ball and pennants.

I say Jones will be a HOF'er, maybe even first ballot.

MIAdragon
08-25-2008, 08:35 AM
Yeah, and so has Jimmy Rollins.


The guys is a 6 time AS and has placed in the top 10 in MVP votes 6 times. IIRC he was 2nd in the ROY as well.

MIAdragon
08-25-2008, 08:42 AM
If you follow baseball-ref's HOF monitor, he would be in, but if you look at his #s, he stacks up most favorably with Larry Walker, who was a better all-around player, and has no chance of getting in.


Coors field made Larry Walker

Simply Red
08-25-2008, 08:52 AM
He's proficient at scoring Hooters waitresses.

of course. lol

Demonpenz
08-25-2008, 09:06 AM
+1

1 WS Championship

6x All-Star

2x Silver Slugger

1x League MVP

Hold the ALL TIME NL record for most HRs by a switch hitter (3rd overall behind Mantle & Murray)

*Atlanta* Braves ALL TIME RBI Leader

8 consecutive 100+ RBI seasons

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He deserves the hall. In fact, the dude is a shoe in.

I always thought dale murphy deserved in. He won't get in now because of steriod era jacking with stats and he didn't get to any many magic milestones 3,000 hits 400 home runs

7x All-Star selection (1980, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987)
5x Gold Glove Award winner (1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986)
4x Silver Slugger Award winner (1982, 1983, 1984, 1985)
2x NL MVP (1982, 1983)
1988 Roberto Clemente Award
1985 Lou Gehrig Memorial Award
Atlanta Braves #3 retired

noa
08-25-2008, 09:13 AM
Probably the best switch hitter I'll ever see.

Agreed.

58-4ever
08-25-2008, 09:28 AM
Dale Murphy part 2

Short Leash Hootie
08-25-2008, 10:16 AM
Chipper played 3rd base most of his career...he's easily a hall of famer. Larry Walker played at Coors Field...how is anyone comparing Larry Walker (a good player) to Chipper Jones (a great player)...I hope you all die in a fire.

Simply Red
08-25-2008, 10:55 AM
Okay, here's my take, I truly believe these last few years will have an impact on his HOF potential outcome. Right now? No, In two yrs.? Probably

FWIW, he's one of my favorite atheletes. If I'm not mistaken AriChi3fs is a major Braves fan too..

Demonpenz
08-25-2008, 11:19 AM
They way chipper treats the media and writers makes him a good bet to get in.