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aturnis
08-25-2008, 05:15 PM
Leftovers from Miami
August 24, 2008 - Bob Gretz |

From Miami Gardens, Florida

Iím sure there are some things that Gunther Cunningham wonít be pleased with when he looks at the tape of Saturday nightís Chiefs-Dolphins game. A team doesnít lose 24-0 and have anybody happy.

But Gun canít get too down on his defense because once you shift through all the plays and all the stats it indicates that they actually got some things done. Other than not getting the quarterback on the ground all night and giving up an 80-yard run in the fourth quarter, the Chiefs defense performed at a winning level.

They forced four turnovers, including an end zone interception. They stopped Miamiís first possession from scoring, despite six plays the Jets ran off inside the Chiefs five-yard line. They gave up no pass play for longer than 17 yards and other than the 80-yard run, allowed only one other play for more than 20 yards. They stopped Miamiís offense on 3rd down 10 of 13 times. RB Ricky Williams averaged just 3.9 yards per carry.

This happened with the No. 1 defense playing without LBs Donnie Edwards and Demorrio Williams. They werenít even in the building, having been left at home by the Chiefs because they could not play due to injury. Rookie free agent Wes Dacus started at outside linebacker along with Derrick Johnson and Pat Thomas.

Again, some of the young faces showed up as well. Getting his most extensive playing time, DT Glenn Dorsey was a factor on several running plays, simply taking his man backwards into the running back. CB Brandon Flowers made some nice plays and showed heís very willing to work the run support. CB Brandon Carr had an end zone interception.

Some other thoughts and reflections of the Chiefs visit to south Florida:

* Nick Novak absolutely had the chance to lock up the kicking job. But his miss from 48 yards in the fourth quarter puts doubts in the heads of the decision makers at Arrowhead. The only other appearance by a Chiefs kicker was Connor Barth hammering the opening kickoff some 75 yards into the end zone. However, the Dolphins brought it back 39 yards. Since neither Novak or Bath has claimed the job outright, expect the Chiefs to look very closely at the veteran kickers that are out there. That may begin as early as the next few days.



* Dustin Colquitt is so consistent when he kicks the ball that when he has a bad punt, it really stands out. That was the case with his 40-yard line drive that Tedd Ginn, Jr. returned 59 yards for a touchdown. Ginn out ran both Pat Thomas and Maurice Price who had angles on him from the left side of the punt team. Once he got past them, there was nobody on the right side of the punt team to slow him down.



* Dantrell Savage made a very rookie mistake in the first quarter when he caught a kickoff deep in the left corner and accidentally stepped out of bounds as he tried to run. Savage should have left the kick go and either bounce out of bounds or into the end zone where he could have covered the ball for a touchdown. The Chiefs would have had the ball at the 20 or 40-yard line, not at the two-yard line where they began their first offensive possession of the game. After that rookie blunder, Savage did a good job on returns and itís hard to believe he wonít be handling those duties. B.J. Sams got off his best return of the pre-season, bringing back a kickoff 33 yards, but that was topped by Savageís 36-yard return.



* Yes, the Chiefs have not game planned for any opponent, nor has anybody game planned for them. But the lack of a consistent running game has to be a concern for Herm Edwards and Chan Gailey. Through three games, Larry Johnson has carried 35 times for 115 yards, or 3.3 yards per carry. Thatís pretty much the number of carries Edwards was expecting Johnson to get in the pre-season, so it will be interesting to see if he even plays on Thursday night against New Orleans.



* The Chiefs left 11 players at home for this game. Already mentioned were Edwards and Williams at linebacker. Joining them from the defense were CB Tyron Brackenridge, S Jon McGraw, LB Napoleon Harris and DE Trevor Johnson. Missing from the offense were LT Branden Albert, RB Jamaal Charles, WR Will Franklin, TE Brad Cottam and WR Kevin Robinson. During the game, RT Damion McIntosh (ankle) and G Tre Stallings (knee) had to leave t he game. McIntoshís ankle is not considered serious, while Stallings prognosis will depend on test that will be given Sunday.



* Former Chiefs LB-FB Boomer Grigsby started for the Dolphins at FB, but his actual playing time on offense was minuscule. He must have been surprised that he was starting, because when the starting lineup was introduced for the Miami offense, Boomer was nowhere to be found. Also on the field for the Dolphins Saturday night was former Chiefs RB and assistant coach James Saxon. Heís Miamiís running backs coach.

Molitoth
08-25-2008, 05:18 PM
Speaking of leftovers, we come home with Jay Feely.

kstater
08-25-2008, 05:22 PM
Reasons 956-958 that Gretz is senile.



"Savage should have left the kick go and either bounce out of bounds or into the end zone where he could have covered the ball for a touchdown."
"They stopped Miami’s first possession from scoring, despite six plays the Jets ran off inside the Chiefs five-yard line."
"That’s pretty much the number of carries Edwards was expecting Johnson to get in the pre-season, so it will be interesting to see if he even plays on Thursday night against New Orleans."

aturnis
08-25-2008, 05:47 PM
Reasons 956-958 that Gretz is senile.



"Savage should have left the kick go and either bounce out of bounds or into the end zone where he could have covered the ball for a touchdown."
"They stopped Miamiís first possession from scoring, despite six plays the Jets ran off inside the Chiefs five-yard line."
"Thatís pretty much the number of carries Edwards was expecting Johnson to get in the pre-season, so it will be interesting to see if he even plays on Thursday night against New Orleans."

Maybe he just wants to see if you were paying attention?

HypnotizedMonkey
08-25-2008, 05:51 PM
jesus christ... this dude IS senile lol

HemiEd
08-25-2008, 05:56 PM
Reasons 956-958 that Gretz is senile.



"Savage should have left the kick go and either bounce out of bounds or into the end zone where he could have covered the ball for a touchdown."
"They stopped Miamiís first possession from scoring, despite six plays the Jets ran off inside the Chiefs five-yard line."
"Thatís pretty much the number of carries Edwards was expecting Johnson to get in the pre-season, so it will be interesting to see if he even plays on Thursday night against New Orleans."

Thank you, saved me the trouble. Those are real head scratchers, he must have mailed it in, or been drunk.

TrickyNicky
08-25-2008, 06:08 PM
other than that 80 yarder, the return, and the interceptions, hell we practically won! Thanks blob.

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2008, 06:18 PM
During the game, RT Damion McIntosh (ankle) and G Tre Stallings (knee) had to leave t he game. McIntoshís ankle is not considered serious...

It's never serious, just enough to get him out of the game.

Cut this lazy **** already.

chiefs1111
08-25-2008, 06:23 PM
I really hope they just burn the game film for this one

John_Wayne
08-25-2008, 06:23 PM
No wonder we lost. We were playing Miami AND the Jets!

"They stopped Miami’s first possession from scoring, despite six plays the Jets ran off inside the Chiefs five-yard line."

Buehler445
08-25-2008, 07:09 PM
Reasons 956-958 that Gretz is senile.



"Savage should have left the kick go and either bounce out of bounds or into the end zone where he could have covered the ball for a touchdown."
"They stopped Miamiís first possession from scoring, despite six plays the Jets ran off inside the Chiefs five-yard line."
"Thatís pretty much the number of carries Edwards was expecting Johnson to get in the pre-season, so it will be interesting to see if he even plays on Thursday night against New Orleans."

The Jets one really ****ed with me. I must have read that 8 times trying to figure out what Herm did with the Jets or the Jets did to us last season. WTF?!

ChiefsCountry
08-25-2008, 07:15 PM
I bet it was bc he kept seeing Pennington and thinking Jets.

FAX
08-25-2008, 07:28 PM
"... other than the 80-yard run, allowed only one other play for more than 20 yards."

This is an interesting perspective considering the enemy can have a good night with lots of 10 yard plays. Nevertheless, Gretz is pretty right, in general terms. The D actually didn't play all that poorly against the Jets.

FAX

Mecca
08-25-2008, 07:33 PM
Gretz went to the Vermiel school, "other than those couple of big plays we played well on defense"

ROYC75
08-25-2008, 07:36 PM
Word has it, we suck this year ? I haven't even had the interest to watch any preseason games.

OnTheWarpath58
08-25-2008, 07:36 PM
Gretz went to the Vermiel school, "other than those couple of big plays we played well on defense"

ROFL

That's exactly who I thought of when I read that comment.

"Well, other than 34 points we gave up, the D looked really good."

Or my personal favorite:

"The defense played much better than the scoreboard would indicate."

gblowfish
08-25-2008, 08:16 PM
There's no way in Hell Bob Gretz would leave any leftovers.

In Miami, at Gates, at the Golden Corral, anywhere.

Buehler445
08-25-2008, 08:36 PM
There's no way in Hell Bob Gretz would leave any leftovers.

In Miami, at Gates, at the Golden Corral, anywhere.

ROFL ROFL ROFL