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Fried Meat Ball!
08-27-2008, 07:12 AM
Anyone have ANY idea what something like this would cost to repair on a 1999 Ford Explorer?

Dartgod
08-27-2008, 07:13 AM
Tie Rod

Dartgod
08-27-2008, 07:14 AM
I'm not sure of the cost, it should be fairly simple to replace. Be sure you get an alignment afterwards, though.

Buehler445
08-27-2008, 07:18 AM
Dart God is right, it is a Tie Rod.

I think it depends on where it is broken. If it is just one end or the other (connection) it may be cheaper. But you are still looking at towing and mechanic costs. Out here I don't think it would cost more than $500 to get the whole thing done. Don't know about where you are though. Could be a different story.

I'm no tie rod expert, that's just a guess.

Dartgod
08-27-2008, 07:18 AM
O'Reilly Auto Parts lists an outer tie rod end for $17.99. inner for $22.99. That's for this area, it could vary a bit in SC.

You can probably double that cost if you have a shop purchase and install it. I would guess an hour of labor, plus alignment charges.

Just a rough guess, because I don't know what prevailing rates are in my area, let alone yours. Someone else here can probably be a bit more accurate.

Parts: $50
Labor: $75?
Alignment: $90?

I would think $200 or so should be fair

Fried Meat Ball!
08-27-2008, 07:30 AM
O'Reilly Auto Parts lists an outer tie rod end for $17.99. inner for $22.99. That's for this area, it could vary a bit in SC.

You can probably double that cost if you have a shop purchase and install it. I would guess an hour of labor, plus alignment charges.

Just a rough guess, because I don't know what prevailing rates are in my area, let alone yours. Someone else here can probably be a bit more accurate.

Parts: $50
Labor: $75?
Alignment: $90?

I would think $200 or so should be fair

Thanks for the info.

I don't know a tie rod from a dingle-ganger. Not very mechanically inclined.

The tow won't be anything - I have AAA, so they already towed it to the shop.

gblowfish
08-27-2008, 09:21 AM
Thanks for the info.

I don't know a tie rod from a dingle-ganger. Not very mechanically inclined.

The tow won't be anything - I have AAA, so they already towed it to the shop.

Oh, well, I can help you with a dingle-ganger. Why didn't you say so?

Bring it over, and I'll fix that along with the thingamabob and the doohickey with my left handed monkey wrench. And I'll only charge you the standard service fee, dealer prep, processing charge and licensing fee.

KcMizzou
08-27-2008, 09:21 AM
Tire rod. Heh.

:p

Get those muffler bearings checked out while you're at it.

Chief Chief
08-27-2008, 09:22 AM
FYI: A tie rod is more commonly referred to as "that thing" while a dingle-ganger is, of course, better known as a doo-hickey.

Now you know...

Fried Meat Ball!
08-27-2008, 09:53 AM
FYI: A tie rod is more commonly referred to as "that thing" while a dingle-ganger is, of course, better known as a doo-hickey.

Now you know...

Excellent.

ROFL

This, my friends, is the reason I find a mechanic I trust and send his children to college.

Fried Meat Ball!
08-27-2008, 09:54 AM
In my own defense, I called it a tire rod because that's what my wife said the AAA guy told her. :harumph:

That said... I wouldn't have known the difference either way.

Rausch
08-27-2008, 09:57 AM
In my own defense, I called it a tire rod because that's what my wife said the AAA guy told her. :harumph:

That said... I wouldn't have known the difference either way.

Ditto.

To me the automobile is a way for me to get from A to B.

Its no different than $#itpaper, garbage bags, or a lightbulb.

It's there to perform it's function and be replaced once it can't...

stumppy
08-27-2008, 10:01 AM
Maybe after you get your tire rod fixed you can go out cruising for some camel toads.

Fried Meat Ball!
08-27-2008, 10:04 AM
Maybe after you get your tire rod fixed you can go out cruising for some camel toads.

I'm at the beach... I can walk to find camel toads. :LOL:

kstater
08-27-2008, 10:40 AM
Thanks for the info.

I don't know a tie rod from a dingle-ganger. Not very mechanically inclined.

The tow won't be anything - I have AAA, so they already towed it to the shop.

Just be sure to mention this point to your mechanic.

Fried Meat Ball!
08-27-2008, 10:40 AM
So the mechanic called back, said the tie rod is definitely broken, but what caused all this is the bolt that holds the brake to the caliper broke, which then crunched the shield and the tie rod.

All said and done, estimate is $300. Sounds about right to me and the couple of people I've talked to.

Fried Meat Ball!
08-27-2008, 10:41 AM
Just be sure to mention this point to your mechanic.

Yeah.... no.

Simply Red
08-27-2008, 10:41 AM
I'm at the beach... I can walk to find camel toads. :LOL:

but camel-toes will be better motivation.

OnTheWarpath58
08-27-2008, 10:44 AM
Tire rod. Heh.

:p

Get those muffler bearings checked out while you're at it.

Those Fetzer valves, they're all ball-bearings nowadays...

Radar Chief
08-27-2008, 10:46 AM
So the mechanic called back, said the tie rod is definitely broken, but what caused all this is the bolt that holds the brake to the caliper broke, which then crunched the shield and the tie rod.

All said and done, estimate is $300. Sounds about right to me and the couple of people I've talked to.

A caliper bolt broke allowing the caliper to shift bending the dust cover and pushing it into the tie rod? Is that what he's saying?
I’d be surprised if the dust cover had enough strength to break a tie rod, but we are talking about a Ford so anything is possible, I guess. ;)

Pablo
08-27-2008, 10:56 AM
Make sure that mechanic does a 20 point inspection when he's done too...

Last time I was getting my oil changed I had to spend damn near $90 on headlight fluid...that sh*t is expensive!!!

ChiefButthurt
08-27-2008, 11:17 AM
Oh yeah and the high speed bumper bolts will need checked.

Old Dog
08-27-2008, 11:24 AM
Might as well have them change the air in the plug wires while it's in the shop.

blueballs
08-27-2008, 11:25 AM
This thread made the Michelin man cringe

Blindside58
08-27-2008, 11:33 AM
Make sure that mechanic does a 20 point inspection when he's done too...

Last time I was getting my oil changed I had to spend damn near $90 on headlight fluid...that sh*t is expensive!!!

Almost as expensive to have the summer air drained from your tires to have the winter air put in!

Dartgod
08-27-2008, 11:34 AM
If your car keeps dieing at stop lights, you should have them replace the idler arm as well.

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 11:37 AM
If your car keeps dieing at stop lights, you should have them replace the idler arm as well.

ROFL

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 11:38 AM
i would think if a caliper bolt broke you would know it when you stopped. if its a bottom bolt the caliper hits the wheel, a top it hits the rotor. LOTS of noise

Micjones
08-27-2008, 11:40 AM
I had a tie rod replaced this weekend.
Set me back $60 with my mechanic.
@#$% a shop!

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 11:41 AM
I had a tie rod replaced this weekend.
Set me back $60 with my mechanic.
@#$% a shop!

awful cheap. did they align it?

Simply Red
08-27-2008, 11:43 AM
Anyone have ANY idea what something like this would cost to repair on a 1999 Ford Explorer?

surely you can just use one of your cast-iron skillets, No?

Radar Chief
08-27-2008, 12:01 PM
i would think if a caliper bolt broke you would know it when you stopped. if its a bottom bolt the caliper hits the wheel, a top it hits the rotor. LOTS of noise

Thatís along the lines of what I was thinking, but it is a Ford after all. Probably making enough mechanical noises he didnít notice the caliper grinding on the rotor. :Poke:

Dartgod
08-27-2008, 12:02 PM
awful cheap. did they align it?
Not for that price.

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 12:31 PM
at my shop you would be looking at 139.95 for a tie rod, labor and an alignment. the caliper bolt and backing plate are hard to est. without seeing

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 12:31 PM
Not for that price.

watch them tires then

Micjones
08-27-2008, 12:54 PM
awful cheap. did they align it?

No sir, he did not.

Should I definitely get that done soon?

Fried Meat Ball!
08-27-2008, 12:59 PM
A caliper bolt broke allowing the caliper to shift bending the dust cover and pushing it into the tie rod? Is that what he's saying?
Iíd be surprised if the dust cover had enough strength to break a tie rod, but we are talking about a Ford so anything is possible, I guess. ;)

Kinda long story, but here's the short version. When I got in the car this morning, I put it in reverse and it groaned and grinded, the car wouldn't do reverse very well at all... felt like my brakes were locked. Went inside to get my wife - I wanted to look at the wheels, see if they were moving. My wife got in the car, and it moved just like normal. On a side note, there was blacktop that was breaking. Thought the grinding MIGHT be the blacktop. Anyway, the wife said everything felt fine, the car didn't make any unusual noises and everything seemed OK.

Got in the car and left for work. About three blocks down the road is when everything went to hell. Front end jumping all over everywhere, steering all ****ed up, brakes locking... got the car back home without any issues and called AAA.

I'm guessing the bolt broke as I parked it last night... the tie rod broke when I took it out this morning.

Fried Meat Ball!
08-27-2008, 01:00 PM
If your car keeps dieing at stop lights, you should have them replace the idler arm as well.

Almost as expensive to have the summer air drained from your tires to have the winter air put in!

Might as well have them change the air in the plug wires while it's in the shop.

Oh yeah and the high speed bumper bolts will need checked.

Make sure that mechanic does a 20 point inspection when he's done too...

Last time I was getting my oil changed I had to spend damn near $90 on headlight fluid...that sh*t is expensive!!!

I'm not a complete tool, people. :grr:

Radar Chief
08-27-2008, 01:03 PM
Kinda long story, but here's the short version. When I got in the car this morning, I put it in reverse and it groaned and grinded, the car wouldn't do reverse very well at all... felt like my brakes were locked. Went inside to get my wife - I wanted to look at the wheels, see if they were moving. My wife got in the car, and it moved just like normal. On a side note, there was blacktop that was breaking. Thought the grinding MIGHT be the blacktop. Anyway, the wife said everything felt fine, the car didn't make any unusual noises and everything seemed OK.

Got in the car and left for work. About three blocks down the road is when everything went to hell. Front end jumping all over everywhere, steering all ****ed up, brakes locking... got the car back home without any issues and called AAA.

I'm guessing the bolt broke as I parked it last night... the tie rod broke when I took it out this morning.

Ah, thanks for the explanation. That makes sense with the way you describe it.
I was just using it as an excuse to poke fun at the blue oval guys anyway. ;)

Dartgod
08-27-2008, 01:04 PM
No sir, he did not.

Should I definitely get that done soon?
Absolutely. An improperly aligned front end can wear out a set of good tires in no time.

A lot of "shade tree" mechanics will count the number of threads exposed on a tie rod and install the new one with the same number of threads showing. You might get lucky and be in alignment, but do you want to bet a set of tires on it?

Radar Chief
08-27-2008, 01:07 PM
Absolutely. An improperly aligned front end can wear out a set of good tires in no time.

A lot of "shade tree" mechanics will count the number of threads exposed on a tie rod and install the new one with the same number of threads showing. You might get lucky and be in alignment, but do you want to bet a set of tires on it?

Changing a tie rod should only effect toe in / out and that can be checked with a tape measure and some common sense. But still, the correct way to do it is have it aligned at a competent shop.

Dartgod
08-27-2008, 01:10 PM
Changing a tie rod should only effect toe in / out and that can be checked with a tape measure and some common sense. But still, the correct way to do it is have it aligned at a competent shop.
True, but if a tie rod is worn enough to need replacement, or broken, as in FMB's case, then chances are that other parts have worn to the point of affecting the overall alignment anyway.

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 01:11 PM
Changing a tie rod should only effect toe in / out and that can be checked with a tape measure and some common sense. But still, the correct way to do it is have it aligned at a competent shop.

STILL hard to get correct the specs are in degrees now. see this all the time and usually they arent even close

Radar Chief
08-27-2008, 01:15 PM
True, but if a tie rod is worn enough to need replacement, or broken, as in FMB's case, then chances are that other parts have worn to the point of affecting the overall alignment anyway.

Very good point.

Micjones
08-27-2008, 01:16 PM
Absolutely. An improperly aligned front end can wear out a set of good tires in no time.

A lot of "shade tree" mechanics will count the number of threads exposed on a tie rod and install the new one with the same number of threads showing. You might get lucky and be in alignment, but do you want to bet a set of tires on it?

Good to know. Thanks for the information.

Radar Chief
08-27-2008, 01:19 PM
STILL hard to get correct the specs are in degrees now. see this all the time and usually they arent even close

Awe comeíon. Not all shade tree wrenches are that bad. ;)
Well maybe they are. Iíve seen some hacked up shit rolling down the road.

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 02:13 PM
Awe comeíon. Not all shade tree wrenches are that bad. ;)
Well maybe they are. Iíve seen some hacked up shit rolling down the road.

THATS not what im saying:D just that an alignment is a critical item and the tolerances are so close that you really need a machine. i have a hunter. i do lots of front end work and still the way parts are made nowdays the threads are different or the aftermarket part is a touch longer/shorter that makes it WAY off as you get to the outside of the tire. 1 thread off is quite a bit more as you get to the tire

joesomebody
08-27-2008, 05:30 PM
Are tie rods difficult to install? I need to replace both sides of my POS daily driver (96 Ford Escort.) I can have my brother allign it, but I like to do as much of the work myself before I bother him.

Is this something that can be done with a haynes manual and basic mechanical understanding?

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 05:45 PM
Are tie rods difficult to install? I need to replace both sides of my POS daily driver (96 Ford Escort.) I can have my brother allign it, but I like to do as much of the work myself before I bother him.

Is this something that can be done with a haynes manual and basic mechanical understanding?

inner or outer? outers are a snap just make sure the jam nut is free, inners are a little more difficult but one note ALWAYS MAKE SURE TO REPLACE THE COTTER PIN when you install the castle nut! safety first

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 05:46 PM
the only reason to make sure of the jam nut is for ease in alignment

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 05:47 PM
an inner is MUCH easier if you have the tool(if your brother is a tech he probably has it)

Tiger's Fan
08-27-2008, 05:51 PM
Ask em to install a pussy magnet while you're there.

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 06:10 PM
ROFLIMA DA BORAT

Skip Towne
08-27-2008, 07:45 PM
Who you callin' a tool?

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 07:46 PM
Who you callin' a tool?

noone just tryin to help out with some advice

joesomebody
08-27-2008, 07:52 PM
Thanks for the advice, I'll talk to him and see if he has the tool. He's a diesel mechanic, so the tool he probably has is far too big for my car, but one never knows.
I was going to just replace both inner and outer, car just hit 150,000 so it's probably due.

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 07:55 PM
yeah it is probably due. you MIGHT be able to rent the tool at a local parts store. the inners are a little tougher, but if you're mechanically inclined you can probably pull it off, like i said be safe if it doesnt look right find someone who knows what its supposed to be like and make sure. brakes and suspension are the most critical components to be RIGHT on any car. thats where the safety for you and others comes into play