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Consistent1
08-27-2008, 02:49 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AsIB4v9s4gru3l.WUep5o55DubYF?slug=ap-chargers-merriman&prov=ap&type=lgns

I have taken up for him before, but damn this just might be stupid.

Bowser
08-27-2008, 02:50 PM
Stupid for him, good for the rest of the NFL.

Fruit Ninja
08-27-2008, 02:52 PM
lol. He's not going to last. Its going to be like that qb from Oregon last year. Going to give it a go, but its just going to give out on him. Guy is to big and strong to be trying to play on a busted up knee.

MGRS13
08-27-2008, 03:03 PM
I'll give him one game before the whinny bitch complains about lineman going after his knee.

Buehler445
08-27-2008, 03:04 PM
Yeah, it's a terrible idea and honestly, I can't see the logic in it. I really can't.

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StcChief
08-27-2008, 03:05 PM
Bolts ? without him they could be a very beatable team.

eazyb81
08-27-2008, 03:07 PM
Varsity Blues style. Just shoot him up w/ some cortizone and get him out there.

chasedude
08-27-2008, 03:10 PM
If he doesn't take care of it now he's gonna be in real bad shape when he's collecting his pension, possibly be in a chair :eek:

Rooster
08-27-2008, 03:15 PM
I'm surprised the Bolts are not putting a stop to this. He is a large investment. He could be ruined forever. NTTATWWT :evil:

Valiant
08-27-2008, 03:17 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AsIB4v9s4gru3l.WUep5o55DubYF?slug=ap-chargers-merriman&prov=ap&type=lgns

I have taken up for him before, but damn this just might be stupid.

Get him on the cover of Madden quick..

Bowser
08-27-2008, 03:17 PM
I guess Priest Holmes continually stabbing that voodoo doll of Merriman in the knee finally paid off.

kstater
08-27-2008, 03:17 PM
Dumbass

Valiant
08-27-2008, 03:17 PM
If he doesn't take care of it now he's gonna be in real bad shape when he's collecting his pension, possibly be in a chair :eek:

He will not be in the league long enough for that me thinks..

Spott
08-27-2008, 03:18 PM
Roids turn your brains to mush.

Valiant
08-27-2008, 03:18 PM
I'll give him one game before the whinny bitch complains about lineman going after his knee.

Honestly I hope some uses that lovely Denver scheme of blocking on his knee..

mylittlepony
08-27-2008, 03:18 PM
I'll give him one game before the whinny bitch complains about lineman going after his knee.

Actually its week two when they are playing denver:

1 Sun, Sep 07 Carolina 4:15 PM ET
2 Sun, Sep 14 @ Denver 4:15 PM ET

penguinz
08-27-2008, 03:23 PM
What I don't understand is he said he had the same knee pain last season. He had his knee scoped 5 months ago to clean out cartilage. I would think the doctors would have also looked around while in there to check for any other damage.

Demonpenz
08-27-2008, 03:27 PM
I hope his leg gets blasted last of the mohicans style!

Sure-Oz
08-27-2008, 03:28 PM
The Chargers are probably happy he'll try, since they dont give a shit and won't have him past this season anyway. What an idiot, good for him

Mecca
08-27-2008, 03:30 PM
The Chargers have no interest in resigning him so I doubt they care what happens to him.

King_Chief_Fan
08-27-2008, 03:31 PM
Why wouldn't SD say no to his stupidity. Why aren't the company docs saying that he isn't medically clear to play. I am surprised that SD would take that liability on.

He gets hurt further....say for life. I smell lawsuit.

Lawyer: Is it true Mr. Turner that you allowed him to play in this condition? Isn't it you Mr. Turner that decides who does and doesn't play?

Buehler445
08-27-2008, 03:34 PM
The Chargers have no interest in resigning him so I doubt they care what happens to him.

I read that too. Any idea why? Too much money? I'd think as much as he's done they'd want to keep him.

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Mecca
08-27-2008, 03:35 PM
Why wouldn't SD say no to his stupidity. Why aren't the company docs saying that he isn't medically clear to play. I am surprised that SD would take that liability on.

He gets hurt further....say for life. I smell lawsuit.

Lawyer: Is it true Mr. Turner that you allowed him to play in this condition? Isn't it you Mr. Turner that decides who does and doesn't play?

He likely found a doctor that cleared him which means the Chargers have no responsibility.

Valiant
08-27-2008, 03:36 PM
Why wouldn't SD say no to his stupidity. Why aren't the company docs saying that he isn't medically clear to play. I am surprised that SD would take that liability on.

He gets hurt further....say for life. I smell lawsuit.

Lawyer: Is it true Mr. Turner that you allowed him to play in this condition? Isn't it you Mr. Turner that decides who does and doesn't play?

Not sure what lawsuit they would get if it is Merriman and his doctors saying he can play..

Spicy McHaggis
08-27-2008, 03:36 PM
I hope his leg gets blasted last of the mohicans style!

I love that song. If listening to "The Gael" doesn't get you in the mood to destroy someone then you don't have a competitive bone in your body.

Buck
08-27-2008, 03:58 PM
The Chargers actually have him signed through 2009. He has 2 seasons left on his contract.

Sure-Oz
08-27-2008, 04:02 PM
He'll blow out his knee and we'll sign him making him a worse signing than Kendrall Bell

El Pendejo
08-27-2008, 04:14 PM
I hope his knee holds up week 2 against the Donks. People whine enough about Denver's perfectly legal cut blocks...even though EVERY team does it. It'll be that much more absurd if Merriman gets lazy with his technique and has his knee exploded by an expertly executed cut block.

Valiant
08-27-2008, 04:53 PM
I hope his knee holds up week 2 against the Donks. People whine enough about Denver's perfectly legal cut blocks...even though EVERY team does it. It'll be that much more absurd if Merriman gets lazy with his technique and has his knee exploded by an expertly executed cut block.

Honestly I do not know why it has not been banned.. If horsecollar tackling is banned for a few injuries then cut blocks need to be banned also.. Keep the pussification going to the offensive side also..

Kerberos
08-27-2008, 05:42 PM
The man has been warned and has decided to forego advice given by more than one doctor. :shake:

I guess if anyone knows how much Merriman can handle it should be Merriman. :whackit:

I hope the best for him but in the NFL I don't think most players can play at a 100% without a 100% healthy body. A broken finger or a something alike can be compensated for.

Torn PCL and LCL on the same knee? Dude must be on steroi......... Oh wait :spock:

plbrdude
08-27-2008, 05:48 PM
you wanna win??? put booby in!!!

thabear04
08-27-2008, 05:51 PM
Does the jags play the bolts again? If so i hope Drew-Jones take him out again lol

Count Zarth
08-27-2008, 05:59 PM
I want to see LJ cut block that sumbitch.

Valiant
08-27-2008, 06:00 PM
I want to see LJ cut block that sumbitch.

Actually it would be funny to see Priest sign for one game if he gets the chance to block for LJ and then retire again after he puts a helmet into his knee..

Count Zarth
08-27-2008, 06:01 PM
Actually it would be funny to see Priest sign for one game if he gets the chance to block for LJ and then retire again after he puts a helmet into his knee..

Look at us agreeing...it's so sweet.

Reerun_KC
08-27-2008, 06:02 PM
Actually it would be funny to see Priest sign for one game if he gets the chance to block for LJ and then retire again after he puts a helmet into his knee..
:spock:

I guess stay classy is out of the question????

Reerun_KC
08-27-2008, 06:02 PM
Look at us agreeing...it's so sweet.
You have you a new cuddle buddy now?

Valiant
08-27-2008, 06:03 PM
:spock:

I guess stay classy is out of the question????

There is no acting classy against certain cretins on opposing teams..

Valiant
08-27-2008, 06:03 PM
Look at us agreeing...it's so sweet.

Cherish the moment..

milkman
08-27-2008, 06:03 PM
I want to see LJ cut block that sumbitch.

Hell, I hope to see LJ block, anyone.

Count Zarth
08-27-2008, 06:05 PM
Hell, I hope to see LJ block, any one.

I don't fault LJ for his poor blocking in Miami. He shouldn't be asked to block guys like Matt Roth.

His blocking was good against the Cardinals. He had a FANTASTIC cut block on a blitzing LB on one play.

tmax63
08-27-2008, 06:17 PM
I wonder if PH might give up a little bonus money to whoever lays a hard legal block and explodes that unstable knee ( and unstable mind since he's not getting it fixed)

milkman
08-27-2008, 06:22 PM
I don't fault LJ for his poor blocking in Miami. He shouldn't be asked to block guys like Matt Roth.

His blocking was good against the Cardinals. He had a FANTASTIC cut block on a blitzing LB on one play.

Priest Holmes took on guys twice his size and did a damn good job.

Maurice Jones-Drew laid Merriman out on a block.

There is no excuse for this useless bastard, and the sooner that useless ****er is gone, the better.

Reerun_KC
08-27-2008, 06:44 PM
Hell, I hope to see LJ block, anyone.
Far as I know, Hell hasnt froze over...

I would love to see LJ block, but chances are, its hopeless... He gots his money....

Count Zarth
08-27-2008, 06:47 PM
the sooner that useless ****er is gone, the better.

Wow. Ready to dump LJ, eh?

BigRock
08-27-2008, 07:01 PM
I'm surprised the Bolts are not putting a stop to this.

That's really the big issue. Merriman is nuts for wanting to play, but it's what the guy does. And he's never been accused of being a genius in the first place.

But WTF are the Chargers doing? The PR hit is going to be off the charts if they let him play. They'll basically be announcing to the world that they aren't concerned about Merriman or his future, and they couldn't care less if he cripples himself, because their only concern is whether he gives their team a better chance to win while he's out there.

And surely that's true of every team, but they don't go around broadcasting it to the general public. The league wants to uphold a certain image. If they let him play, there's going to be a major backlash.

Reerun_KC
08-27-2008, 07:02 PM
Wow. Ready to dump LJ, eh?
Uh yeah, they should of never resigned him....

Hello!:eek:

milkman
08-27-2008, 07:04 PM
Wow. Ready to dump LJ, eh?

You may have missed it, but I was on the "Trade LJ" bandwagon before he signed his kast contract.

Now we're stuck with him for at least another couple of years.

Kolby Smith is, by far, a better all around back.

Reerun_KC
08-27-2008, 07:06 PM
That's really the big issue. Merriman is nuts for wanting to play, but it's what the guy does. And he's never been accused of being a genius in the first place.

But WTF are the Chargers doing? The PR hit is going to be off the charts if they let him play. They'll basically be announcing to the world that they aren't concerned about Merriman or his future, and they couldn't care less if he cripples himself, just as long as he gives their team a better chance to win while he's out there.

And surely that's true of every team, but they don't go around broadcasting it to the general public. The league wants to uphold a certain image. If they let him play, there's going to be a major backlash against the Chargers.


Hey he this is Lights Out Merriman we are talking about... The same one that ESPN pimps so much... He will be fine, just needs his little buddy.

Hey kids, just use this and you can be just like Merriman. /ESPN

http://www.teachpe.com/Quiz%20Images/drug_needle.jpg

Reerun_KC
08-27-2008, 07:07 PM
You may have missed it, but I was on the "Trade LJ" bandwagon before he signed his kast contract.

Now we're stuck with him for at least another couple of years.

Kolby Smith is, by far, a better all around back.
:clap:

Just like Mecca stats, RB's are a dime a dozen, days of building a franchise around a broken down back are over... should of could of would of.. To late now.....

We are stuck with him and his Bentley's....

KCheavy
08-27-2008, 07:28 PM
Yeah his last game could be this year

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 08:03 PM
saw where merriman said "my knee still looks pretty good" wtf roids give you xray vision? who knew????

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-27-2008, 08:06 PM
So, he gets about 4 opinions that say he needs the surgery and he opts to try and play through it....BRILLIANT The steroids shrunk his brain to the size of his nuts.

JASONSAUTO
08-27-2008, 08:08 PM
saw interviews with chargers are they all growing beards? maybe we need beards

milkman
08-27-2008, 08:10 PM
saw interviews with chargers are they all growing beards? maybe we need beards

I'm betting Cunther Gunningham agrees.

jspchief
08-27-2008, 08:16 PM
Someone should explain to Merroidman that his body doesn't recover as quickly from this shit when he's not all juiced up.

cdcox
08-27-2008, 08:16 PM
He shouldn't be asked to block guys like Matt Roth.



Or guys like Scott Fujita!

Thig Lyfe
08-27-2008, 08:50 PM
Can't wait until he sustains the career-ending injury.

Reerun_KC
08-27-2008, 09:11 PM
Or guys like Scott Fujita!
dont worry, He didnt....

Jewish Rabbi
08-27-2008, 10:01 PM
Stupid as hell... The Chargers will run away with the division even without him, might as well get it done now...

El Pendejo
08-27-2008, 11:26 PM
Honestly I do not know why it has not been banned.. If horsecollar tackling is banned for a few injuries then cut blocks need to be banned also.. Keep the pussification going to the offensive side also..

It's going to be nearly impossible to outlaw cut blocking. There's really no reason for it to be axed. It's effective, and the only time defenders are hurt is when they are lazy and don't use their hands to fight it off. There are of course exceptions. (See Steve Herndon taking out Jamaal Williams.)...but for the most part it's clean.

I know everyone on this board understands the difference between a cut block, and a chop block...but a lot of people like to see the two as one in the same. As a Donks fan I've heard it all for years. I don't like the cheap shots, but all teams are guilty of those...including KC. I know to Chiefs fan...all forms of cheating were created in Denver.

Back on topic. Steroids or not Merriman is a special athlete. Understanding that the Dolts wanted him to play all a long...I wonder if the specialists made him think that going under the knife won't make him right again. Who really knows for sure...but this situation doesn't seem right.

boltpower 21
08-28-2008, 12:27 AM
Some interesting revelations in this article. I think we can conclude why it's rumored that AJ Smith isn't interested in re-signing Merriman.

By ignoring the doctor's advice, he's now putting the putting the Bolts 2008 season and his own future in jeopardy:

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10950042/1

Count Zarth
08-28-2008, 12:47 AM
Shawne Merriman - the next Kendrell Bell.

Consistent1
08-28-2008, 06:41 AM
None of it makes any sense. Why not just play some video games, sip a few beers and lift? I know the Bolts are going to be serious contenders this year, but why risk your financial and physical future? It is hard for me to believe that he is doing it for the team. He could come back next year, get 20 sacks and sign a fat contract with somebody. He has no reason to fake this injury either. Nothing to be gained. I just wonder if it's some bluff over a bonus or something. If he does truly do it, he has some combination of serious balls and mental illness. It will be interesting to see how this goes.

triple
08-28-2008, 06:57 AM
a roided up football player who's starting to show signs of being injury prone. who could have anticipated it.

dirk digler
08-28-2008, 07:40 AM
He is a stupid mofo for not taking care of this in February when all the doctors told him to. I really hope on the first play of the game next week he blows them both out.

Mecca
08-28-2008, 07:42 AM
a roided up football player who's starting to show signs of being injury prone. who could have anticipated it.

Tearing a knee ligament isn't a roid injury, if he had a torn muscle, especially one where it was torn off the bone, that's a roid injury.

Bweb
08-28-2008, 09:05 AM
Tearing a knee ligament isn't a roid injury, if he had a torn muscle, especially one where it was torn off the bone, that's a roid injury.

I would have to wonder if the added weight gain in addition with the added speed from the roids would put more pressure and/or stress on the knee tendons. :shrug:

Kerberos
08-28-2008, 09:56 AM
I would have to wonder if the added weight gain in addition with the added speed from the roids would put more pressure and/or stress on the knee tendons. :shrug:

Exactly

More phisical force from every area around the knee/leg from increased steroid use that puts MORE strain on the ligaments/tendons than normal. Thus causing the injury to be somewhat steroid related.

Don't know how much water this would hold medically but it sounds good. :thumb:

triple
08-28-2008, 10:01 AM
Tearing a knee ligament isn't a roid injury, if he had a torn muscle, especially one where it was torn off the bone, that's a roid injury.

is that so, i didn't realize all forms of injury were acute, and not chronic or degenerative. thanks for the insight.

boltpower 21
08-28-2008, 10:06 AM
Exactly

More phisical force from every area around the knee/leg from increased steroid use that puts MORE strain on the ligaments/tendons than normal. Thus causing the injury to be somewhat steroid related.

Don't know how much water this would hold medically but it sounds good. :thumb:

His knee was injured after the cheap shot by Kevin Mawae as retaliation for the Vince Young "cheap shot" by Merriman in the Titans game.

He played on it in six games after that so I guess he feels he can play on it some more.

OnTheWarpath58
08-28-2008, 10:12 AM
Exactly

More phisical force from every area around the knee/leg from increased steroid use that puts MORE strain on the ligaments/tendons than normal. Thus causing the injury to be somewhat steroid related.

Don't know how much water this would hold medically but it sounds good. :thumb:

That's absolutely the case, and anyone who thinks this didn't have anything to do with steroids is kidding themselves.

The steroid use creates more muscle mass than the tendons and ligaments supporting them are designed to handle, and eventually, they stress to the point of tear or rupture.

XXXshogunXXX
08-28-2008, 11:32 AM
That's absolutely the case, and anyone who thinks this didn't have anything to do with steroids is kidding themselves.

The steroid use creates more muscle mass than the tendons and ligaments supporting them are designed to handle, and eventually, they stress to the point of tear or rupture.

is that so? so all LCL and PCL injuries are from steroids, and cannot happen during gameplay. The NFL should test the next player who suffers a knee injury, obviously the guy is on roids.

HypnotizedMonkey
08-28-2008, 12:20 PM
I hope he rips his whole shit up doing the "lights out" dance.

sedated
08-28-2008, 12:44 PM
I still fail to see the benefit in this.

OnTheWarpath58
08-28-2008, 12:58 PM
is that so? so all LCL and PCL injuries are from steroids, and cannot happen during gameplay. The NFL should test the next player who suffers a knee injury, obviously the guy is on roids.

Another dipshit Bolts fan who can't read.

Is his steroid abuse 100% of the cause? Absolutely not, and I've never claimed it to be.

However, as pointed out, and backed up by medical professionals - steroid use puts undue strain and stress on ligaments and tendons, because the create muscle mass that the ligament/tendon isn't designed to support.

There are also studies that show that steroid use causes tendons and ligaments to become brittle, causing weakness, tears and ruptures.

In MLB, during the "steroid era" of 1994-present, large joint injuries have risen by almost 60%, while all other injuries have risen by 5%. Wonder why that is?

Feel free to be naive enough to think that Merriman is squeaky clean, and that this steroid use had NOTHING to do with it...

Consistent1
08-28-2008, 01:21 PM
It's a rough game at that level. The steroids probably did have something to do with it. That stuff will usually only happen to guys with genetic weakness, or who never trained natural. Juice may well have played a roll in this, but bad luck most likely did also. His whole situation is just a mess. Watch this all be blown out of the water hype and he has a great year. We as football fans just don't know.

beach tribe
08-28-2008, 01:58 PM
[QUOTE=OnTheWarpath58;4953314]

There are also studies that show that steroid use causes tendons and ligaments to become brittle, causing weakness, tears and ruptures.

QUOTE]

Absolutely correct. I studied steroids thoroughly after I met a guy who offered them to me. I was too scared that I would go bald before my time to do it. Thank god.

B_Ambuehl
08-28-2008, 02:13 PM
Another dipshit Bolts fan who can't read.

Is his steroid abuse 100% of the cause? Absolutely not, and I've never claimed it to be.

However, as pointed out, and backed up by medical professionals - steroid use puts undue strain and stress on ligaments and tendons, because the create muscle mass that the ligament/tendon isn't designed to support.

There are also studies that show that steroid use causes tendons and ligaments to become brittle, causing weakness, tears and ruptures.

In MLB, during the "steroid era" of 1994-present, large joint injuries have risen by almost 60%, while all other injuries have risen by 5%. Wonder why that is?

Feel free to be naive enough to think that Merriman is squeaky clean, and that this steroid use had NOTHING to do with it...

Look at the rate of ACL tears in women vs men. Women tear there's something like 2-3 x as often. If testosterone levels had anything to do with it men would be tearing their ACLs at a rate greater than women. Also by your logic lineman would have a lot more ligament tears than any other athletes since they are by far the biggest and put a lot more relative stress on their joints. Androgens affect tendon and muscular health, ligaments are entirely different.

OnTheWarpath58
08-28-2008, 02:23 PM
Look at the rate of ACL tears in women vs men. Women tear there's something like 2-3 x as often. If testosterone levels had anything to do with it men would be tearing their ACLs at a rate greater than women. Also by your logic lineman would have a lot more ligament tears than any other athletes since they are by far the biggest and put a lot more relative stress on their joints. Androgens affect tendon and muscular health, ligaments are entirely different.

Once again, someone that doesn't bother to read.

It's not all about stress, it's about stress relative to the expectations of the individual's tendons and ligaments.

A guy like Jonathan Odgen has been huge his entire life. His tendons/ligaments have ALWAYS been expected to handle the load of his huge frame.

Then you take a guy like Merriman, who is a certain size most of his adult life - who then ADDS 30 pounds or more of muscle mass, and the ligaments and tendons aren't in a position to support that extra mass.

It's like a weight limit for a bridge. When the bridge was built, it was built with the expectation of supporting up to a certain weight.

Now, unexpectedly, the bridge starts seeing a disproportionate increase in not only the traffic, but the weight of that traffic - the bridge is not going to be as structurally sound as it was before. It wasn't built to take that kind of abuse.

Not the greatest analogy, but it gets the point across.

Well, maybe not, considering who I'm dealing with...

B_Ambuehl
08-28-2008, 02:55 PM
Dude you plain and simply don't know what you're talking about. I am very familiar with steroid related injures. Bodybuilders (who use 50 times as many steroids per capita than any other athletes) don't have any higher incidence of ligament tears than normal. All your analogies are relevant with muscular and tendon trauma, but ligaments simply aren't affected by the same mechanisms.

Conversely, the weaker the athlete, the more likelihood of ligament trauma.