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BigRock
08-27-2008, 06:57 PM
Long story short, Boras is saying #2 pick Pedro Alvarez isn't going to report unless the Pirates renegotiate the deal they agreed to. He says the deal was reached after the midnight deadline.

The Pirates think it's a money grab, and point to the fact that the Royals' deal with Eric Hosmer was sent to MLB after their deal with Alvarez was. Yet Boras isn't raising any issues over Hosmer's deal. And, say the Pirates, if Boras argues that Alvarez's deal was done after the deadline, then he'd have to say the same about Hosmer, which could put the Royals' contract in jeopardy.

Dayton Moore "was surprised to see Hosmer's contract brought up" in this discussion and says their deal with Hosmer was done in the "appropriate time frame".

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3556133

Pirates place Alvarez on restricted list; signing in jeopardy

PITTSBURGH -- No. 2 draft pick Pedro Alvarez refused to sign his contract with the Pittsburgh Pirates, and the players' association filed a grievance Wednesday claiming the Aug. 15 deadline was unilaterally extended by Major League Baseball without the union's permission.

The Pirates announced early on Aug. 16 that Alvarez, a power-hitting third baseman from Vanderbilt, agreed to a minor league contract with a $6 million signing bonus. The Pirates said his agent, Scott Boras, told the team Alvarez would not report unless the deal was renegotiated. Boras claimed the agreement was reached after the midnight deadline for draft picks to sign on Aug. 15.

Alvarez was placed on baseball's restricted list.

"Regrettably, we are not surprised that Mr. Boras would attempt to raise a meritless legal claim in an effort to compel us to renegotiate Pedro's contract to one more of his liking," Pirates president Frank Coonelly said in a statement, "We are, however, disappointed that Pedro would allow his agent to pursue this claim on his behalf. Pedro showed tremendous fortitude and independent thinking when he agreed to his contract on Aug. 15."

Michael Weiner, the union's general counsel, said the extension of the deadline "was done without notice to or consultation with the players' association, despite a firm deadline having been established through collective bargaining." He said the grievance was not filed on behalf of any particular player, and no decision had been made whether to seek to void the deals. The union and MLB hope to schedule a hearing by Sept. 10.

"It is the union's obligation, on behalf of all players, to defend the integrity of its collectively bargained agreements," he said.

Coonelly said the agreement between the Kansas City Royals and No. 3 draft pick Eric Hosmer was submitted to MLB after Alvarez's deal.

"Mr. Boras is apparently satisfied with the $6 million bonus that he secured for Mr. Hosmer and has not challenged the validity of that contract," Coonelly said. "Mr. Boras has been informed that if he pursues a claim that our contract with Pedro was not timely, he puts Eric Hosmer's contract with Kansas City in jeopardy."

Boras, reached by ESPN.com, said the matter was a dispute between Major League Baseball and the players' association.

"Pedro Alvarez never received a contract from the Pittsburgh Pirates," Boras told ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick. "We're awaiting the determination of a grievance filed by the union against the commissioner's office."

Rob Manfred, baseball's executive vice president of labor relations, called the grievance "entirely without merit."

"The deadline was extended to accept minor league contracts voluntarily entered into by the clubs and the players with the help of their agents," he said. "It is settled law that the arbitration panel has no authority to disturb such minor league contracts."

While Alvarez and Hosmer agreed to $6 million signing bonuses, No. 5 pick Buster Posey got an agreement with a $6.2 million signing bonus from the San Francisco Giants.

"It's time for the Pittsburgh Pirates and Mr. Coonelly to come clean with Pittsburgh fans regarding their dealings with Pedro Alvarez," Boras told ESPN.com.

Royals general manager Dayton Moore was surprised to see Hosmer's contract brought up.

"We agreed in the appropriate time frame and the terms were submitted in a timely matter," Moore said. "Eric Hosmer is completely satisfied with the terms of his contract and is completely satisfied with being part of this organization."

The Pirates are determined, Coonelly said, not to let the contract impasse affect their relationship with Alvarez.

"We continue to believe that in Pedro Alvarez, the person and the baseball player, and remain excited to add Pedro to our system," Coonelly said. "We will sit down with Pedro as soon as Mr. Boras' claim is rejected to chart a new and more productive start to Pedro's career with the Pittsburgh Pirates."

Sure-Oz
08-27-2008, 06:59 PM
Hosmer is playing, and seems to be happy, i dont see how this would effect us...

I'm glad we didn't draft Alvarez now, btw Boras is a POS

DeezNutz
08-27-2008, 07:00 PM
WTF. Please.

milkman
08-27-2008, 07:07 PM
Sports agents, lawyers, and Larry Johnson should all be placed in a room together, and when indivual's get mad enough to tackle each other, LJ will be charged with blocking them.

eazyb81
08-27-2008, 07:10 PM
Pittsburgh's GM is a douche for trying to bring us into their dispute.

Reerun_KC
08-27-2008, 07:11 PM
Sports agents, lawyers, and Larry Johnson should all be placed in a room together, and when indivual's get mad enough to tackle each other, LJ will be charged with blocking them.
dude! Okay that was funny, but easy on the LJ hate, GoChiefs will put a spell on you from his mothers basement...

milkman
08-27-2008, 07:28 PM
dude! Okay that was funny, but easy on the LJ hate, GoChiefs will put a spell on you from his mothers basement...

If Claython had any magical powers, he's have gotten himself laid by now, so color me unconcerned.

siberian khatru
08-27-2008, 08:18 PM
As if I needed to hate Boras any more. What. A. ****ing. Asshole.

chiefs1111
08-27-2008, 09:26 PM
Wow Boras really is an ass

Mecca
08-27-2008, 09:42 PM
Pittsburgh's GM is a douche for trying to bring us into their dispute.

It's only because he's a Boras guy too they're trying to be like "Hey if you say that then we're gonna do this and piss you're other guy off..."

beavis
08-27-2008, 11:43 PM
Baseball owners would be a lot better off if they just started flat out refusing to negotiate with this douchebag.

petegz28
08-28-2008, 06:21 AM
Baseball owners would be a lot better off if they just started flat out refusing to negotiate with this douchebag.

Wow something we can agree on!

bkkcoh
08-28-2008, 06:27 AM
Baseball owners would be a lot better off if they just started flat out refusing to negotiate with this douchebag.

It wouldn't take long for the players to realize not to hire him. But someone would quickly fill the void.....

Consistent1
08-28-2008, 06:48 AM
I might just settle for 6 million dollars. It ain't much money, but I would maybe take it.

beavis
08-28-2008, 08:20 AM
It wouldn't take long for the players to realize not to hire him. But someone would quickly fill the void.....

I don't know about that. Buster Olney was on 810 this morning, and he said even other agents are saying he's out of line on this one.

chief52
08-28-2008, 10:20 AM
If baseball can prove he is lying on this one, he surely should face disciplinary actions. If he is right...nothing you can do. If he is lying...throw the book at him!

beavis
08-28-2008, 10:25 AM
If baseball can prove he is lying on this one, he surely should face disciplinary actions. If he is right...nothing you can do. If he is lying...throw the book at him!

How exactly are they going to discipline him?

beavis
08-28-2008, 10:26 AM
I might just settle for 6 million dollars. It ain't much money, but I would maybe take it.

Crazy isn't it. All this over $200k more. This kid is 18 years old and going to get more money in one paycheck than most of us will see in our lives. Greedy bastards.

eazyb81
08-28-2008, 10:37 AM
Crazy isn't it. All this over $200k more. This kid is 18 years old and going to get more money in one paycheck than most of us will see in our lives. Greedy bastards.

Why do you think it's over $200k? I'm guessing it's more about trying to get an MLB deal. Also, Alvarez is not 18, he's 21.

chief52
08-28-2008, 10:57 AM
How exactly are they going to discipline him?

Suspend him from negotiating contracts for x amount of time? I would think they could do something along those lines if he is proven to be lying about a contract.

Sure-Oz
08-29-2008, 03:57 PM
http://royals.scout.com/2/784573.html

Alvarez deadlock affects Hosmer, Royals
Dave Sanford
RoyalsCorner.com Aug 29, 2008

Royals fans were alarmed on Thursday night when first round pick Eric Hosmer, who made his professional debut on Monday, was absent from the Idaho Falls Chukars lineup. There was speculation that Hosmer’s absence was related to the recent contract impasse between the Pittsburgh Pirates and Scott Boras, who represents both Pirates’ first round draft pick Pedro Alvarez and Hosmer.

Royals Corner sources have confirmed that Hosmer did not dress for Thursday night’s game, and that it was indeed directly related to the situation with Alvarez and the Pirates. All parties involved are reportedly tight-lipped about the situation, and we still do not know whether Hosmer’s exclusion from the lineup came at the request of Boras, minor league baseball, or Hosmer himself, but we understand that he isn’t likely to suit up again until baseball resolves the impasse. At issue is the question of whether or not a contract signed after the midnight August 15 deadline is valid, even if, as in the case of both Hosmer’s and Alvarez’s negotiations, an extension was granted by the commissioner’s office.

Boras made news earlier this week when he announced that Alvarez would not sign with the Pirates unless his contract was renegotiated. Alvarez had reportedly agreed to a $6 million signing bonus on the night of the deadline, but he has yet to report. Boras is arguing that the commissioner’s office illegally and unilaterally extended the signing deadline, in violation of baseball’s collective bargaining agreement.

Pirates president Frank Coonelly made news in Kansas City earlier this week when he issued a press release arguing that the invalidation of Alvarez’s contract could have ramifications for the Royals’ agreement with Hosmer.

“The Pirates are confident that the contract reached with Pedro Alvarez was agreed to and submitted to Major League Baseball in a timely fashion and properly accepted by Major League Baseball,” read the statement.

“In fact, the contract between the Kansas City Royals and Eric Hosmer, another Boras client, was submitted to the Office of the Commissioner after our contract with Pedro was submitted. Mr. Boras is apparently satisfied with the $6 million bonus that he secured for Mr. Hosmer and has not challenged the validity of that contract. Mr. Boras has been informed that if he pursues a claim that our contract with Pedro was not timely he puts Eric Hosmer's contract with Kansas City in jeopardy.”

In an article on MLB.com, Royals GM Dayton Moore on Wednesday responded to the speculation that Hosmer’s deal could be in jeopardy.

"I'm not familiar with Pittsburgh's situation," Moore said. "I did read the press release, and our team and our player was in that press release but I'm not concerned about it.

"You've just got to have an agreement by the deadline. We had an agreement by the deadline and the terms were submitted in a timely manner so I'm not uncomfortable with the situation."

Clearly, the situation has changed in the last 24 hours, and it’s anyone’s guess how this will turn out. Stay tuned to Royals Corner for updates.