PDA

View Full Version : Chiefs What we've learned


Claynus
08-27-2008, 10:54 PM
http://kan.scout.com/2/783963.html

<table><tbody><tr><td valign="top">Three preseason games are in the books, with a fourth on the docket for Thursday night, but we've seen enough. Exhibition games, of course, shouldn’t be treated as gospel where the regular season is concerned, but it’s becoming obvious what the Chiefs are and are not at this juncture. What have we learned?
</td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3">
We know the Chiefs probably won’t be good this year. There are simply too many question marks at too many key positions, too much youth throughout the starting lineup.

But specifically, I’ve identified seven key points that I believe will define this year’s Chiefs team. Some of them have been obvious since training camp, some came to light in the preseason. Some are positive, some negative.

1. The Chiefs will struggle to run the football again this season.

Last year KC’s offense finished dead last in the NFL in rushing. Based on what we’ve seen so far in 2008, I’m not expecting a huge improvement.

The Chiefs had an outstanding drive against the Cardinals two weeks ago, pounding out 57 yards rushing and looking like a team that would run all over just about any defense. Unfortunately, there’s no consistency in the running attack we’ve seen so far.

The Chiefs’ first-team offense – defined by Brodie Croyle (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698850)’s presence under center - has generated 137 yards rushing this preseason on 37 carries. That’s only 3.7 yards per carry, and when you remove the flash-in-the-pan drive against Arizona, it looks really bad – only 80 yards on 29 carries. Kansas City’s starting offense has produced just three runs over 10 yards all preseason, and none longer than 18. That’s just not getting it done.

The Chiefs have a fine stable of running backs with Larry Johnson, Kolby Smith (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698874), Jamaal Charles (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3723954) and Dantrell Savage (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3049240), but the horses up front (the offensive line) are struggling much as they did a year ago. Chan Gailey better hope Branden Albert (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3542598) gets some push, because otherwise, we’ll see plenty of third-and-longs for Brodie Croyle this year.

2. Jarrad Page (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698868) and Bernard Pollard (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698871) won’t be liabilities.

Fans and media alike criticized Pollard last year for his lackluster play, and everyone knows Page has had issues in run support since he was a rookie. Based on preseason, both of KC’s starting safeties appear improved by large margins.

Pollard’s weight loss is noticeable, and he’s much quicker this season, especially when he breaks down to tackle a running back in the box. Page has been stuffing runners left and right this preseason. The longest pass reception by a wide receiver against the Chiefs this August is only 22 yards.

I’m not completely sold that Pollard is the hitter he was drafted to be, and Page still whiffs on his share of attempted knockouts, but both players appear to be firmly entrenched as starters this season. To his credit, Pollard never really gave rookie safety DaJuan Morgan (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3723961) a chance at his spot.

3. Kansas City’s pass rush is abysmal.

I’m not going to sugar-coat it. The Chiefs really miss Jared Allen (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3716719). The move I recommended in mid-April (http://kan.scout.com/2/747332.html) – switching Tamba Hali (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698856) to right defensive end – has bore little early fruit. Hali looks overmatched against left tackles, even rookies like Miami’s Jake Long (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3716226).

Alfonso Boone (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698847) was a flop at left defensive end, and yes, he leads the preseason NFL in sacks, but Turk McBride (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698864) isn’t going to log 10 sacks this year. I still say McBride’s future is inside, as a pass-rushing defensive tackle on third downs, where his lack of foot speed isn’t such an issue (and one of Turk’s preseason sacks came from left defensive tackle).

I love KC’s interior line – a fresh Boone should be great off the bench at defensive tackle, and Glenn Dorsey (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3722647)’s too talented and driven to be the next Ryan Sims (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3630577). But where is the outside pressure coming from? Rookie Brian Johnston (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3724390) has a long way to go before those post-draft comparisons to Jared Allen even come close to reality. I’ll be shocked if the Chiefs generate 30 sacks this year.

4. Kansas City’s run defense is solid.

Like I said, I love the Chiefs’ defensive tackle situation. Tank Tyler and Dorsey are going to dominate guards and centers in the running game all year long. A fresh Boone and Ron Edwards (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698853) off the bench is tremendous depth.

Derrick Johnson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698860) will have space to flow to the ball all year. Pat Thomas, while not as rich as Napoleon Harris (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698857), is easily tougher and stouter coming downhill in the middle. Throw in Brandon Flowers (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3723953), who’s tackling has been lights out off the corner this preseason, and you have the makings of a much-improved run defense. Don’t forget the Chiefs were 28th in this category last year.

5. The Chiefs don’t have a right tackle.

We might as well call this The Curse of John Tait (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3630273), because since he left town, the Chiefs haven’t found a suitable replacement. John Welbourn (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3881788) was a flop, Chris Terry a nightmare. Kevin Sampson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3672167) couldn’t stay on the field and now it appears Damion McIntosh (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698866) is going to be in and out of the training room all year.

Is the answer rookie Barry Richardson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3724381)? Maybe next year, when he’s adjusted to the pro game. Is it Herb Taylor? The Chiefs are probably hoping so. Hey, we all are, because the curse just keeps getting worse.

6. Brodie Croyle is a horrible fantasy quarterback.

Somehow, Croyle has already managed to throw 44 passes this preseason without connecting on a touchdown. His longest completion is 22 yards, and his favorite receiver is Kolby Smith. Watching him play football, I wonder if there’s a fan in America with Croyle on their fantasy draft board.

Is that the quarterback, or his coaching? We know this team won’t take a lot of risks on offense. But the coaching staff has to take advantage of the howitzer on Croyle’s throwing shoulder, right? Otherwise, what’s the point of starting him? Damon Huard (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698859) can check the ball down just as well as Croyle (and probably better, considering his extensive experience in that field).

The point is this – have some patience with the kid. It’s not a perfect offensive situation. The Chiefs’ supposed #2 wide receiver, Devard Darling (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3263025), hasn’t caught one pass this preseason. We haven’t seen Tony Gonzalez (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698854) haul in a 15-yard crossing pattern since training camp. Those two elements won’t lay dormant all year.

Fans, the media, and anyone who cares a lick about the Chiefs should have the utmost patience with Brodie Croyle this year. People are already upset with Croyle over a boring preseason in which he’s routinely dumped the ball off to running backs. It could be much worse – watch any of last year’s preseason games.

7. Derrick Johnson will dominate.

With Donnie Edwards (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698852)’ nagging hamstring injury keeping him out most of preseason (who knows if he lasts 16 games), the mantle has been passed to Johnson, who might have had the best preseason of any Chief. Back at the position he played in college at Texas (weakside linebacker), Johnson looks like a player who’s no longer thinking, only reacting. He’s busting up running plays in the backfield, destroying screens and his pass coverage has never been better.

Johnson won’t make the Pro Bowl. It’s ridiculously tough for 4-3 outside linebackers to get tickets to Hawaii. But there’s a good chance he’ll be the best defender on Gunther Cunningham’s defense this year. The only question about Johnson is how large his bank account gets next offseason.

</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <script> var premiumFlag = 0; </script> <!--end STORY DISPLAY-->

MGRS13
08-27-2008, 11:05 PM
So Darling,"footballjesus", has gone from definite starter-possibly great to supposed #2 Wr? And you wonder why your credibility is questioned so often on this site.

Claynus
08-27-2008, 11:06 PM
So Darling,"footballjesus", has gone from definite starter-possibly great to supposed #2 Wr? And you wonder why your credibility is questioned so often on this site.

He's definitely the starter. That's all I ever said and I stand by it.

MGRS13
08-27-2008, 11:10 PM
He's definitely the starter. That's all I ever said and I stand by it.
No you have said much much more. He sucks you love him deal with it.

Mecca
08-27-2008, 11:10 PM
I'll believe Pollard isn't a liability when I see it.

L.A. Chieffan
08-27-2008, 11:10 PM
I think Richardson did a decent job in the Miami game, by mid-season he should be pretty solid. The rest of the line licks balls however.

L.A. Chieffan
08-27-2008, 11:11 PM
I'll believe Pollard isn't a liability when I see it.

Mecca can't wait to send that guy out on a rail

MGRS13
08-27-2008, 11:12 PM
I'll believe Pollard isn't a liability when I see it.
Agreed. Of course this goes double for Croyle.

Mecca
08-27-2008, 11:13 PM
Mecca can't wait to send that guy out on a rail

I'm not a fan of secondary players who can't run.....no matter what if all your secondary players are blazing you atleast avoid getting beat deep.

MGRS13
08-27-2008, 11:14 PM
I'm not a fan of secondary players who can't run.....no matter what if all your secondary players are blazing you atleast avoid getting beat deep.
Can't run? I wish he only had that problem. he can't tackle or cover either.

Claynus
08-27-2008, 11:15 PM
Can't run? I wish he only had that problem. he can't tackle or cover either.

Are you drinking tonight?

KCJohnny
08-27-2008, 11:16 PM
The Chiefs will run the ball often and effectively. Chan Gailey has a proven history of fielding nasty rushing attacks irrespective of the talent available. Pre Season means NOTHING.

Last year's rushing attack featured inside plunges, dives and bellys between the tackles in a system that was designed to spread the field. This year perimeter plays, delays, traps and cut backs will open up options for the Chiefs RBs. The only caution here is that LJ may not be the best back on the roster to maximize the scheme's potential. Smith and Savage have a better cut back game.

Page and Pollard will look worse than they are because they will be covering for two rookie CBs on the edge. The Cover 2 scheme will further demand the safeties cover large areas and close on the run.

The Chiefs' pass rush will suffer in some measure because of the loss of all-world DE Jared Allen. However, Dorsey will give the Chiefs inside push they have not enjoyed since Chester McGlockton was here. Glock's inside push was effective enough to get Eric Hicks 14 sacks in 2000 and the team finished 2nd in the AFC with 54 sacks without a true sack master on the roster. Derrick Johnson will line up in a 3-pt stance at times this year and may play the Falcon spot. Net result: slight improvement in QB pressure over the '07 squad.

Brodie Croyle if healthy will put up solid if unspectular number's in the Gailey system. Gailey hasn't shown much in pre season. He is famous for trick plays, Slash, HB passes, end arounds, and strange formations. Croyle will have freedom to audible at the LOS - a capability he will grow into by the the end of the season. A lot depends on the Chiefs getting max production from the #2 WR - whoever that may be.

Mecca
08-27-2008, 11:16 PM
Can't run? I wish he only had that problem. he can't tackle or cover either.

He's kind of dumb too...he's the trifecta of suck.

Mecca
08-27-2008, 11:16 PM
Are you drinking tonight?

Every single game even this years preseason he comes up and hits some guy with his shoulder who bounces off and keeps going, never fails.

MGRS13
08-27-2008, 11:17 PM
Are you drinking tonight?
Yes. But even if i was sober I wouldn't have been impressed with what I've seen out of Pollard.

L.A. Chieffan
08-27-2008, 11:17 PM
I'm not a fan of secondary players who can't run.....no matter what if all your secondary players are blazing you atleast avoid getting beat deep.

His problems last year were more mental errors than speed deficiency.

Mecca
08-27-2008, 11:18 PM
His problems last year were more mental errors than speed deficiency.

It's both, he bites on run fakes and then he's not fast enough to make up for it. If you have his speed you have to be very smart and have good instincts to never get out of position...if you have great speed you can turn around and outrun you're mistake...

He makes the mistake then can't outrun it.

L.A. Chieffan
08-27-2008, 11:20 PM
His speed isn't that bad and with a year of experience under the belt I think a lot of the coverage issues will be better. The ****ing guy was a rookie last year dude.

MGRS13
08-27-2008, 11:20 PM
His problems last year were more mental errors than speed deficiency.

If they were just mental it's all ready to late because he must of had halve his brain removed.

Mecca
08-27-2008, 11:22 PM
His speed isn't that bad and with a year of experience under the belt I think a lot of the coverage issues will be better. The ****ing guy was a rookie last year dude.

No, he wasn't he was drafted 3 drafts ago....this is his 3rd year.

Claynus
08-27-2008, 11:23 PM
Every single game even this years preseason he comes up and hits some guy with his shoulder who bounces off and keeps going, never fails.

This preseason? Bullshit.

L.A. Chieffan
08-27-2008, 11:23 PM
No, he wasn't he was drafted 3 drafts ago....this is his 3rd year.

My bad, I meant his first year a starter.

Claynus
08-27-2008, 11:23 PM
I AM A HOMER

We know.

MGRS13
08-27-2008, 11:24 PM
This preseason? Bullshit.
hey on the bright side hes had more solid tackles then "football jesus" has had catches.

L.A. Chieffan
08-27-2008, 11:24 PM
Plus Pollard is a true playmaker on ST. He does stuff that most guys just can't do, at least on that side of the ball.

KCJohnny
08-27-2008, 11:25 PM
We know.

You know I'm right.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-27-2008, 11:25 PM
The Chiefs will run the ball often and effectively. Chan Gailey has a proven history of fielding nasty rushing attacks irrespective of the talent available. Pre Season means NOTHING.

Last year's rushing attack featured inside plunges, dives and bellys between the tackles in a system that was designed to spread the field. This year perimeter plays, delays, traps and cut backs will open up options for the Chiefs RBs. The only caution here is that LJ may not be the best back on the roster to maximize the scheme's potential. Smith and Savage have a better cut back game.

Page and Pollard will look worse than they are because they will be covering for two rookie CBs on the edge. The Cover 2 scheme will further demand the safeties cover large areas and close on the run.

The Chiefs' pass rush will suffer in some measure because of the loss of all-world DE Jared Allen. However, Dorsey will give the Chiefs inside push they have not enjoyed since Chester McGlockton was here. Glock's inside push was effective enough to get Eric Hicks 14 sacks in 2000 and the team finished 2nd in the AFC with 54 sacks without a true sack master on the roster. Derrick Johnson will line up in a 3-pt stance at times this year and may play the Falcon spot. Net result: slight improvement in QB pressure over the '07 squad.

Brodie Croyle if healthy will put up solid if unspectular number's in the Gailey system. Gailey hasn't shown much in pre season. He is famous for trick plays, Slash, HB passes, end arounds, and strange formations. Croyle will have freedom to audible at the LOS - a capability he will grow into by the the end of the season. A lot depends on the Chiefs getting max production from the #2 WR - whoever that may be.


Fortunately, Chan Gailey has always had a monster O-Line and ours sucks. And there's that whole thing where it's a passing league and we are a running team.

Other than that, your insight is as glowing as always.

L.A. Chieffan
08-27-2008, 11:25 PM
hey on the bright side hes had more solid tackles then "football jesus" has had catches.

Yeah Darling just sucks Goat. Stop blowing the guy so much.

MGRS13
08-27-2008, 11:26 PM
Plus Pollard is a true playmaker on ST. He does stuff that most guys just can't do, at least on that side of the ball.
Yea you want to get ALL your ST players with second round picks.

Claynus
08-27-2008, 11:26 PM
You know I'm right.

Our pass rush in no way will be better, dude. That's absolute lunacy.

The running game looks like balls, too. Yeah, it's preseason, but they aren't blocking people.

L.A. Chieffan
08-27-2008, 11:26 PM
Fortunately, Chan Gailey has always had a monster O-Line and ours sucks. And there's that whole thing where it's a passing league and we are a running team.

Other than that, your insight is as glowing as always.

KCJohnny has more important things to worry about than Sri Lanka OR the state of our O-Line.

KCJohnny
08-27-2008, 11:27 PM
Trying to say "we know ________________" from pre season is pure folly. We don't know anything yet.
Other than that certain posters here don't know what they think they know.
Its all good.

KCJ
:arrow:
Blind, deceived homer and happy to be

L.A. Chieffan
08-27-2008, 11:28 PM
Yea you want to get ALL your ST players with second round picks.

You take what you can get with Carl Inc. and like it.

Don't forget that if you want to keep your spleen.

SBK
08-27-2008, 11:28 PM
When I was looking through one of my fantasy rosters on fleaflicker.com I saw that there's more than 3x the % of people that own Michael Vick as to own Brodie Croyle. LMAO

MGRS13
08-27-2008, 11:31 PM
When I was looking through one of my fantasy rosters on fleaflicker.com I saw that there's more than 3x the % of people that own Michael Vick as to own Brodie Croyle. LMAO

Croyle is off limits in a lot of leagues because all the commish's know he'll put up so many points who ever owns him will automatically win the championship in the first two weeks.

Mecca
08-27-2008, 11:33 PM
I don't care how good Pollard is on special teams doesn't mean he can play safety well, ask Devin Hester he's great on special teams doesn't make him a good WR...

So basically both teams used a 2nd round pick a special teamer, atleast Hester scores TD's I guess.

SNR
08-27-2008, 11:36 PM
Plus Pollard is a true playmaker on ST. He does stuff that most guys just can't do, at least on that side of the ball.You got that right. It's almost as if he were a punt block specialist, like we would carry a long-snapping specialist on the roster.

SNR
08-27-2008, 11:39 PM
I don't care how good Pollard is on special teams doesn't mean he can play safety well, ask Devin Hester he's great on special teams doesn't make him a good WR...

So basically both teams used a 2nd round pick a special teamer, atleast Hester scores TD's I guess.Give it a rest. We drafted a talented safety to challenge his position on the roster and Pollard manned up and won the starting job.

No, he's not the best ****ing safety in the league, but he's the best safety we've got at that position right now, and it's apparent he's still got room to grow and IS growing.

Quit your bitching.

Mecca
08-27-2008, 11:46 PM
Until proven otherwise, Pollard sucks....the preseason is not going to change my view of his 2 years of suck at safety.

SNR
08-28-2008, 12:04 AM
Until proven otherwise, Pollard sucks....the preseason is not going to change my view of his 2 years of suck at safety.Awesome. The Chiefs agreed with your view. They drafted DaJuan.

Pollard could very well blow it all in the regular season. In the meantime, though, he EARNED the starting job. It wasn't against Slow-draw McGraw, either. We should view that as improvement instead of just reflecting on a player's previous mistakes.

We're going to be seeing a LOT more mistakes than the ones Pollard will make this season, trust me. We've got our team of young players now. All the coaches can do is put the best ones on the field now.

RustShack
08-28-2008, 09:28 AM
DVD is for real!

Coogs
08-28-2008, 09:36 AM
I don't know if I agree with very much of this article. Maybe points 5 and 6, but that is about it. We have too many pieces of the puzzle out with injuries at this point to conclude anything about several of the rest of the points. And I am not sold on our run defense just yet either... mostly because I don't really agree with point number two, and I am not sold on our LB's either.

Chiefnj2
08-28-2008, 09:43 AM
I don't know if I agree with very much of this article. Maybe points 5 and 6, but that is about it. We have too many pieces of the puzzle out with injuries at this point to conclude anything about several of the rest of the points. And I am not sold on our run defense just yet either... mostly because I don't really agree with point number two, and I am not sold on our LB's either.

You disagree that the Chiefs are hurting at RT and don't have a pass rush?

Coogs
08-28-2008, 10:05 AM
You disagree that the Chiefs are hurting at RT and don't have a pass rush?

I think it is to early to tell. Ask me again in about 8 weeks. But for right now I think Herb Taylor could move over and make a pretty fair RT. And the pass rush may come around as we get into the season. Blitzes may have to be used to help out, but that is something we have not seen much of in preseason games.

siberian khatru
08-28-2008, 10:10 AM
Good article.

I disagree on Pollard. He's whiffed on tackles this preseason, and had a big miss -- just like Mecca said -- in the Miami game.

Deberg_1990
08-28-2008, 10:16 AM
I only wish Albert could have gotten more work this preseason.

Oh well, trial by fire when he finally returns.

triple
08-28-2008, 10:20 AM
its crazy to think that pollard and page won't be liabilities. they might even both lose their jobs during the year. and the next time derrick johnson dominates will be the first.

Coogs
08-28-2008, 10:22 AM
I only wish Albert could have gotten more work this preseason.

Oh well, trial by fire when he finally returns.

Me too. And that is why I don't particularly agree with the article. I don't believe we have seen enough to assume many of these points.

If Albert pans out, our rushing game could be fine. Move Taylor to RT, and at least 3 pieces of the line should be pretty good. C and RG need to progress as well. And if we don't run the ball well, it will be a very long season.

Saleenman607
08-28-2008, 10:26 AM
Awesome. The Chiefs agreed with your view. They drafted DaJuan.

Pollard could very well blow it all in the regular season. In the meantime, though, he EARNED the starting job. It wasn't against Slow-draw McGraw, either. We should view that as improvement instead of just reflecting on a player's previous mistakes.

We're going to be seeing a LOT more mistakes than the ones Pollard will make this season, trust me. We've got our team of young players now. All the coaches can do is put the best ones on the field now.

That's what concerns me most......."all the coaches can do" The talent MAY be there, but I don't believe in this coaching staff.

beach tribe
08-28-2008, 10:29 AM
The Chiefs will run the ball often and effectively. Chan Gailey has a proven history of fielding nasty rushing attacks irrespective of the talent available. Pre Season means NOTHING.

Last year's rushing attack featured inside plunges, dives and bellys between the tackles in a system that was designed to spread the field. This year perimeter plays, delays, traps and cut backs will open up options for the Chiefs RBs. The only caution here is that LJ may not be the best back on the roster to maximize the scheme's potential. Smith and Savage have a better cut back game.

Page and Pollard will look worse than they are because they will be covering for two rookie CBs on the edge. The Cover 2 scheme will further demand the safeties cover large areas and close on the run.

The Chiefs' pass rush will suffer in some measure because of the loss of all-world DE Jared Allen. However, Dorsey will give the Chiefs inside push they have not enjoyed since Chester McGlockton was here. Glock's inside push was effective enough to get Eric Hicks 14 sacks in 2000 and the team finished 2nd in the AFC with 54 sacks without a true sack master on the roster. Derrick Johnson will line up in a 3-pt stance at times this year and may play the Falcon spot. Net result: slight improvement in QB pressure over the '07 squad.

Brodie Croyle if healthy will put up solid if unspectular number's in the Gailey system. Gailey hasn't shown much in pre season. He is famous for trick plays, Slash, HB passes, end arounds, and strange formations. Croyle will have freedom to audible at the LOS - a capability he will grow into by the the end of the season. A lot depends on the Chiefs getting max production from the #2 WR - whoever that may be.

Your an optimist. OK. But you need to let up with shit. This team is going to be horrible.

Saleenman607
08-28-2008, 10:32 AM
During the Phins game, I heard someone say (Baldinger/Holthus?) that, at this level the coaches don't put much emphasis on tackling, because these athletes should be accomplished at it. WTF!!! If that's the case, we are in serious trouble. I'd be willing to bet Parcells or Cohwer would be DRILLING those players with tackling issues.

beach tribe
08-28-2008, 10:32 AM
I don't care how good Pollard is on special teams doesn't mean he can play safety well, ask Devin Hester he's great on special teams doesn't make him a good WR...

So basically both teams used a 2nd round pick a special teamer, atleast Hester scores TD's I guess.

Pollard, much to my dismay, because I was of the thinking that he would lock down that spot for the next decade, looks just like Wesley, only with fewer "hits".
He bites on play action constantly. He did it in the MIA game, and got burned. They called the guy out of bounds, but that doesn't change the fact.

MOhillbilly
08-28-2008, 10:44 AM
That's what concerns me most......."all the coaches can do" The talent MAY be there, but I don't believe in this coaching staff.
thats what gets me the 'rebuild' of this team doesnt mean shit when the staff is a joke(esp. on D).

siberian khatru
08-28-2008, 10:45 AM
Pollard, much to my dismay, because I was of the thinking that he would lock down that spot for the next decade, looks just like Wesley, only with fewer "hits".
He bites on play action constantly. He did it in the MIA game, and got burned. They called the guy out of bounds, but that doesn't change the fact.

Yeah, then there was that play over the middle, inside the 20, where Pennington threw it to a spot and the receiver caught it -- he had beaten Page on the cross, and Pollard was late coming over to help, in fact he took a step in the wrong direction.

CupidStunt
08-28-2008, 10:56 AM
Throw in Brandon Flowers (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3723953), who’s tackling has been lights out off the corner this preseason,

How many times?

Get a f'ing editor!

Skip Towne
08-28-2008, 11:00 AM
And we had the 2nd best safety in the AFCW and pissed him away.

Chiefnj2
08-28-2008, 11:05 AM
I think people are expecting way too much out of Albert. I don't care how atheltic he is, he is just too inexperienced and missed too much time to be much of a factor this year.

Rausch
08-28-2008, 11:09 AM
I think we've learned that this season is an open door down a dark hallway.

We have no idea what's on the other side and no clue what will happen.

This team is 50% young and raw talent and 50% failed potential. Despite the changes this offseason I still think 1/2 this team won't be here come next year. I also think that's the plan.

We decided to pay the ticket let's take the ride. See where it goes...

Deberg_1990
08-28-2008, 11:11 AM
I think people are expecting way too much out of Albert. I don't care how atheltic he is, he is just too inexperienced and missed too much time to be much of a factor this year.

Its not impossible. There are numerous examples of rookie left tackles stepping in and making a difference right away.

But its definately an uphill battle.

Coogs
08-28-2008, 11:23 AM
I think we've learned that this season is an open door down a dark hallway.

We have no idea what's on the other side and no clue what will happen.



Now that I will agree with.

Saleenman607
08-28-2008, 11:30 AM
I think we've learned that this season is an open door down a dark hallway.

We have no idea what's on the other side and no clue what will happen.

This team is 50% young and raw talent and 50% failed potential. Despite the changes this offseason I still think 1/2 this team won't be here come next year. I also think that's the plan.

We decided to pay the ticket let's take the ride. See where it goes...


QFT

Chiefnj2
08-28-2008, 11:42 AM
Its not impossible. There are numerous examples of rookie left tackles stepping in and making a difference right away.

But its definately an uphill battle.

Rookie left tackles who didn't play the position in college?

picasso
08-28-2008, 11:43 AM
I'll believe Pollard isn't a liability when I see it.

Pollard rocks!

StcChief
08-28-2008, 11:58 AM
I guess REBUILDING doesn't mean much here. It's going to be a long season. Get use to it.

Get over it /Herm

CoMoChief
08-28-2008, 12:20 PM
Pollard has SUCKED this preseason.

Running game won't be as bad as people think. LJ will get more carries than people seem to think.

Passing game will suck

DJ will dominate as much as the interior Dline lets him.

chiefsngop
08-28-2008, 01:09 PM
This preseason? Bullshit.

What? Watch the Miami game again, there are at least two attempted piss poor arm tackles by Pollard.

Again, another player on the Chiefs D who plays a position that should be laying wood on people and doesn't.