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jAZ
08-29-2008, 10:49 PM
Wow...

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/38_million.php

38 Million
By Eric Kleefeld - August 29, 2008, 2:37PM

That's the estimate of how many people watched Obama's acceptance speech last night, according to Nielsen -- and that doesn't include people who watched on PBS or C-Span.

That's more Americans than watched the Olympics opening ceremony, the season finale of American Idol, or the Oscars.

InChiefsHell
08-29-2008, 11:58 PM
Wow...

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/38_million.php

38 Million
By Eric Kleefeld - August 29, 2008, 2:37PM

That's the estimate of how many people watched Obama's acceptance speech last night, according to Nielsen -- and that doesn't include people who watched on PBS or C-Span.

That's more Americans than watched the Olympics opening ceremony, the season finale of American Idol, or the Oscars.

Do they have the numbers on how many cried their eyes out at the vision of the Messiah? Or how many had projectile vomiting 10 seconds into the speech?

Just watching it don't mean shit. I watched it and there is no way in hell I'll vote for Barack...

Donger
08-29-2008, 11:59 PM
I watched it, too. So?

SBK
08-30-2008, 12:27 AM
Did he descend from the clouds before the speech, or did he ascend afterward?

Logical
08-30-2008, 12:38 AM
In fairness it was on every news network and most over the air stations. Still people could have turned it off.

InChiefsHell
08-30-2008, 12:48 AM
Did he descend from the clouds before the speech, or did he ascend afterward?

Well, there WAS a chorus of angels if that counts...

Guru
08-30-2008, 12:54 AM
Of course it was high. People want to know more about him. It doesn't mean they all will vote for him.

Logical
08-30-2008, 01:11 AM
Of course it was high. People want to know more about him. It doesn't mean they all will vote for him.Oh I would bet some casino cash that he will get 40 million votes, will it be enough,:shrug:

Guru
08-30-2008, 01:27 AM
Oh I would bet some casino cash that he will get 40 million votes, will it be enough,:shrug:
Still doesn't mean all 38 million that watched are going to vote for him. heh

Hell, I watched the whole thing and I am not voting for him.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-30-2008, 01:28 AM
Oh I would bet some casino cash that he will get 40 million votes, will it be enough,:shrug:

I'd bet plenty that he'll get 60 million.

Logical
08-30-2008, 01:29 AM
Still doesn't mean all 38 million that watched are going to vote for him. heh

Hell, I watched the whole thing and I am not voting for him.I realize that, I was more making a point about the likely turnout.

Logical
08-30-2008, 01:30 AM
I'd bet plenty that he'll get 60 million.That is quite a bit, how many did Kerry and Bushco get the last time?

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-30-2008, 01:30 AM
That is quite a bit, how many did Kerry and Bushco get the last time?

Bush got 59+

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/X/_/bush_dailymirror_dumb_people.jpg

SBK
08-30-2008, 01:31 AM
Oh I would bet some casino cash that he will get 40 million votes, will it be enough,:shrug:

He'll need more than 50,000,000.

It's sad, our turnout here really sucks considering how few people actually get to vote.

blueballs
08-30-2008, 01:55 AM
People are morons
it was written by a speachwriter
and gone over with a fine tooth comb for weeks

Mecca
08-30-2008, 01:57 AM
People are morons
it was written by a speachwriter
and gone over with a fine tooth comb for weeks

Considering Bush was a 2 term president I think everyone is fully aware of how stupid people are.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-30-2008, 02:00 AM
Considering Bush was a 2 term president I think everyone is fully aware of how stupid people are.

Let's not forget, half of this board would probably vote for him again.

Mecca
08-30-2008, 02:04 AM
Let's not forget, half of this board would probably vote for him again.

It's a board based in the midwest so I'm not surprised.....you know what I love, how people in Missouri are scared of terrorism while places like NY and Cali that are legit possible targets never vote for Republicans.....it's just ironic at the stupidity of that, the people who may have reason to be concerned say F that while midwestern people are scared of everything.

You see people like Donger, Iowanian and the like, the midwest is full of people like that...not to mention the overly religious. You know what I live, how the Republican party trumps up family values and religion but they're all for guns...only in this country are tits the devil but blowing up some heads that's cool.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-30-2008, 02:06 AM
It's a board based in the midwest so I'm not surprised.....you know what I love, how people in Missouri are scared of terrorism while places like NY and Cali that are legit possible targets never vote for Republicans.....it's just ironic at the stupidity of that, the people who may have reason to be concerned say F that while midwestern people are scared of everything.

You see people like Donger, Iowanian and the like, the midwest is full of people like that...not to mention the overly religious. You know what I live, how the Republican party trumps up family values and religion but they're all for guns...only in this country are tits the devil but blowing up some heads that's cool.

I don't think most people really fear terrorism. I just think it's a convenient excuse for xenophobia.

Mecca
08-30-2008, 02:07 AM
I don't think most people really fear terrorism. I just think it's a convenient excuse for xenophobia.

That's probably true...I know I'm very non midwestern in my views, some people probably question how it's possible I grew up here.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-30-2008, 02:13 AM
That's probably true...I know I'm very non midwestern in my views, some people probably question how it's possible I grew up here.

Funny thing:

When I went to grad school in Ohio, the first year one of my profs was talking about Southern States, and he mentioned Missouri, and I took big time umbrage to it. I told him that although it was a slave state in the Civil War, it was very much a battleground state, and that the demographics mirror the country as a whole. Rural Missouri pretty much is the south, and the 'burbs are like the 'burbs anywhere. But KC and St.L do a pretty good job of representing what the urban areas of the country are like, and towns like Columbia are good indicators of progressive college environments.

I remember the thought of Ohio as a Midwestern state was shocking to me. It always seemed (like Penn and Michigan) to be just the Rust Belt, and Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, and Illinois were the Midwest.

Guru
08-30-2008, 02:17 AM
I for one, don't live in fear of terrorism. But I also do not think the midwest safe from it either. I honestly believe the midwest could be a prime target just to prove how deep they could go. They don't have to murder a ton of people to make a point. They only have to murder one.

As far as guns, mecca, I don't own one. I think it is ridiculous that people own automatic weapons. But!!!! Do they have a right to own a gun? Hell yes they do!!! And that right should never be taken away.

Mecca
08-30-2008, 02:21 AM
I for one, don't live in fear of terrorism. But I also do not think the midwest safe from it either. I honestly believe the midwest could be a prime target just to prove how deep they could go. They don't have to murder a ton of people to make a point. They only have to murder one.

As far as guns, mecca, I don't own one. I think it is ridiculous that people own automatic weapons. But!!!! Do they have a right to own a gun? Hell yes they do!!! And that right should never be taken away.

I don't really have a problem with what you said, I have more of a problem with perception like how on CSI they'll show a dudes head explode but a 5 second glimpse of a womans tit is the end of the world...most other countries are opposite of this, why is violence ok here but nudity not?

I have news in real life most everyone is going to see tits and lots of them the odds of seeing a dudes head explode aren't that good...

I'm not worried about terrorism, what's he gonna do blow up my suburban block or a cow?

Mecca
08-30-2008, 02:21 AM
Funny thing:

When I went to grad school in Ohio, the first year one of my profs was talking about Southern States, and he mentioned Missouri, and I took big time umbrage to it. I told him that although it was a slave state in the Civil War, it was very much a battleground state, and that the demographics mirror the country as a whole. Rural Missouri pretty much is the south, and the 'burbs are like the 'burbs anywhere. But KC and St.L do a pretty good job of representing what the urban areas of the country are like, and towns like Columbia are good indicators of progressive college environments.

I remember the thought of Ohio as a Midwestern state was shocking to me. It always seemed (like Penn and Michigan) to be just the Rust Belt, and Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, and Illinois were the Midwest.

Yea it's weird when you get out of the cities here it's all republican the little towns are entirely them.

KC, STL, Columbia have to basically out vote the rest of the state.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-30-2008, 02:25 AM
I personally don't mind guns, although there are a lot of people I don't trust with them.

Today I get woken up by one of my friends. He's going to the shooting range with his cousin and wants me to come along. In the past 2 months, his cousin has bought $10,000 worth of guns, all at gun shows and off the 'net. All the ones he got at gun shows didn't require any kind of hold or background check (even though they are supposed to) because the dealers are corrupt and no one is checking it out.

The dude flies an AK-47, an AR-15, a .50 Cal desert eagle, and a Springfield XD up from El Paso. I walk outside to my friend's Jeep and his cousin is pointing the Springfield at me, telling me (jokingly) "get back in the f*cking house". It's that kind of shit that terrifies me.

Never point a gun at anything you aren't going to shoot.

The one thing I don't understand is why some people think that gun ownership is a fundamental part of their personhood. It's as if not being able to have a gun is like giving up your liver.

Guru
08-30-2008, 02:27 AM
I don't really have a problem with what you said, I have more of a problem with perception like how on CSI they'll show a dudes head explode but a 5 second glimpse of a womans tit is the end of the world...most other countries are opposite of this, why is violence ok here but nudity not?

I have news in real life most everyone is going to see tits and lots of them the odds of seeing a dudes head explode aren't that good...

I'm not worried about terrorism, what's he gonna do blow up my suburban block or a cow?
Well that went a different direction than I expected. heh

My only real issue with TV is the fact that they promote sex outside marriage in a HUGE way. I have no problem with sex. Just wait until you are married. Pretty simple. With all the disease out there, is it really worth risking your life for a booty call? Yes, I know there are ways to avoid that but there is one ultimate way to avoid it.

Yes, I am old fashioned too.:D

Mecca
08-30-2008, 02:27 AM
I don't own a gun and I don't plan to..I'm comfortable with that.

Mecca
08-30-2008, 02:28 AM
Well that went a different direction than I expected. heh

My only real issue with TV is the fact that they promote sex outside marriage in a HUGE way. I have no problem with sex. Just wait until you are married. Pretty simple. With all the disease out there, is it really worth risking your life for a booty call? Yes, I know there are ways to avoid that but there is one ultimate way to avoid it.

Yes, I am old fashioned too.:D

Please tell me you don't support abstinence only sex education.

Guru
08-30-2008, 02:28 AM
I personally don't mind guns, although there are a lot of people I don't trust with them.

Today I get woken up by one of my friends. He's going to the shooting range with his cousin and wants me to come along. In the past 2 months, his cousin has bought $10,000 worth of guns, all at gun shows and off the 'net. All the ones he got at gun shows didn't require any kind of hold or background check (even though they are supposed to) because the dealers are corrupt and no one is checking it out.

The dude flies an AK-47, an AR-15, a .50 Cal desert eagle, and a Springfield XD up from El Paso. I walk outside to my friend's Jeep and his cousin is pointing the Springfield at me, telling me (jokingly) "get back in the f*cking house". It's that kind of shit that terrifies me.

Never point a gun at anything you aren't going to shoot.

The one thing I don't understand is why some people think that gun ownership is a fundamental part of their personhood. It's as if not being able to have a gun is like giving up your liver.

Completely AGREED!!!!

Guru
08-30-2008, 02:30 AM
Please tell me you don't support abstinence only sex education.
Do I think it is the best way? sure. Do I think it is the only way? Hell no.

If you are going to do it you are going to do it. IT is a personal choice. Just make sure you understand what you are potentially getting into.

Mecca
08-30-2008, 02:31 AM
Do I think it is the best way? sure. Do I think it is the only way? Hell no.

If you are going to do it you are going to do it. IT is a personal choice. Just make sure you understand what you are potentially getting into.

Ok that's fine, you have your beliefs but you don't think that is the only way. I just don't think abstinence only is realistic for most kids or people in general so they should be taught how to use condoms and safe measures.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-30-2008, 02:32 AM
Do I think it is the best way? sure. Do I think it is the only way? Hell no.

If you are going to do it you are going to do it. IT is a personal choice. Just make sure you understand what you are potentially getting into.

People are ultimately sexual animals. I think that abstinence only education is like the Maginot Line. Ok, we sidestepped it, now it's a straight line to Paris.

F*ck.

Guru
08-30-2008, 02:33 AM
Ok that's fine, you have your beliefs but you don't think that is the only way. I just don't think abstinence only is realistic for most kids or people in general so they should be taught how to use condoms and safe measures.

For the most part, I do agree. Especially with the society we live in today. I can only hope that my kids make the same choice I made regarding this.

tiptap
08-30-2008, 08:08 AM
How did you get kids being abstinent?

tiptap
08-30-2008, 08:08 AM
joke I am trying to do better on this front

StcChief
08-30-2008, 08:13 AM
Let's not forget, half of this board would probably vote for him again.

lets not forget half this board won't vote for Barry

ROYC75
08-30-2008, 08:15 AM
History in the making , plus they wanted to see the new kid on the block perform....... He got a B, for his efforts.

jAZ
08-30-2008, 08:24 AM
Every candidate on earth will take the opportunity to speak directly to 38 million interested (self-selecting) potential voters. From the campaign's perspective that's everything they could possibly ask for in the way of an opportunity to introduce Obama and his plan for the Presidency to the public.

ROYC75
08-30-2008, 08:29 AM
Go ahead and pat yourself on the back, you deserve the rock star approach.