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rad
08-31-2008, 02:15 PM
So my 12 year old son busts his ass all summer mowing lawns to save money for a laptop. I don't have one and don't know much about them, and he has about 500 bucks saved up so far. I told him not to jump out and buy the cheapest one he can get, as he has the money now for that. I told him to wait and save a little more (plus I would help out) for a middle of the road model. Problem is, I don't know what I'm talking about.

I'm hoping I can get some honest advice here. And yes, I also know a guy who frequents coffee shops who can get me one for fifty bucks, but I'd rather not go that route.

Keep in mind it's for a kid, he'll mostly play games and surf the web for porn,err, school projects and such.

J Diddy
08-31-2008, 04:42 PM
I got a dell dude for $800, it's an upgrade over the old ass hp I had
I don't play games on it but it has enough to if I wanted but overall I'm pretty happy with it

rad
08-31-2008, 05:16 PM
I got a dell dude for $800, it's an upgrade over the old ass hp I had
I don't play games on it but it has enough to if I wanted but overall I'm pretty happy with it

Thanks.

SLAG
08-31-2008, 08:02 PM
I just bought a work laptop- for $650 -

Core 2 duo
3gb rams
250gb SATA HDD
Wi-Fi
15.4" screen
WebCam

The Core2duo is what i was really looking for- Dont get him a computer without one.

J Diddy
08-31-2008, 08:35 PM
I just bought a work laptop- for $650 -

Core 2 duo
3gb rams
250gb SATA HDD
Wi-Fi
15.4" screen
WebCam

The Core2duo is what i was really looking for- Dont get him a computer


without one.

and at least 2 gigs of ram

J Diddy
08-31-2008, 08:35 PM
I just bought a work laptop- for $650 -

Core 2 duo
3gb rams
250gb SATA HDD
Wi-Fi
15.4" screen
WebCam

The Core2duo is what i was really looking for- Dont get him a computer without one.


where'd you get that

sounds nice for $650

RedandGold
08-31-2008, 09:03 PM
I grabbed a Toshiba L305-S5877 on sale at Office Depot last week for $649 ($100 off).

15.4" screen
Intel Core 2 Duo T5750
3GB PC5300 SDRAM
200GB HDD

After shopping around for several months, this was the one that we liked best at the $650 price point. We were originally considering an HP, but a knowledgeable friend suggested that we consider the Toshiba instead. It has definitely exceeded our expectations, and I prefer it to the Dell laptop that I have at work.

rad
08-31-2008, 10:03 PM
Thanks for the input, fellas.

SLAG
08-31-2008, 11:35 PM
where'd you get that

sounds nice for $650

I got it at Microcenter but it was the last one - the Display model - they took an extra 10% off as well since it was the display model

I heard Staples might have some as well

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-31-2008, 11:41 PM
I got it at Microcenter but it was the last one - the Display model - they took an extra 10% off as well since it was the display model

I heard Staples might have some as well

Hey Slag,

How do I get excommunicated from the Catholic Church?

SLAG
08-31-2008, 11:49 PM
Hey Slag,

How do I get excommunicated from the Catholic Church?

2 ways -

Excommunication can be either ferendae sententiae (declared as the sentence of an ecclesiastical court) or, far more commonly, latae sententiae (automatic, incurred at the moment the offensive act takes place). The excommunicant is still considered Christian and a Catholic as the character imparted by baptism is indelible.

Latae Sententiae would probably be your best bet, you could attend a womens "ordination" or help someone with an abortion - those are two common ways now adays

Jewish Rabbi
09-01-2008, 04:03 PM
Latae Sententiae would probably be your best bet, you could attend a womens "ordination" or help someone with an abortion - those are two common ways now adays

And if I remember correctly, if you go to confession you are then considered fully catholic...Right?

Simply Red
09-01-2008, 04:12 PM
So my 12 year old son busts his ass all summer mowing lawns to save money for a laptop. I don't have one and don't know much about them, and he has about 500 bucks saved up so far. I told him not to jump out and buy the cheapest one he can get, as he has the money now for that. I told him to wait and save a little more (plus I would help out) for a middle of the road model. Problem is, I don't know what I'm talking about.

I'm hoping I can get some honest advice here. And yes, I also know a guy who frequents coffee shops who can get me one for fifty bucks, but I'd rather not go that route.

Keep in mind it's for a kid, he'll mostly play games and surf the web for porn,err, school projects and such.

Call me, I sell IBM and Lenovo, teh best machine you can buy, I'll get you in one for around 450. Thinkpads are great workhorses. I payed like 350 for mine and it's been much better than my Dell`M` which died in like a yr. So yeah, I'd be glad to help you out. PM me if you're interested,

Short Leash Hootie
09-01-2008, 04:14 PM
this is the bad boy I just bought!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834147758

Unfortunately, I bought it when it was $80.00 cheaper...and after the rebate $599.99 with free shipping for a computer with a duo core, 200 GB HD and 3 GB RAM is pretty badass...

Newegg has great deals all of the time, though...you will want to look over the next few weeks and buy one with at least 2 GB of RAM...that keeps everything running smoothly if you're just using a laptop for surfing and school...

Here is the search page:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&SubCategory=32&N=2030260032

I search by best rating and like to read what other customers have to say about the product...

From what I read, Acer and Asus have really good laptops for the prices...but I'd steer clear from the Eee PC...it's too small if you ask me...I'd go for a 15.4" monitor...not real big but big enough...

Here is a good one...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115482

But like I said, just last week Newegg had a deal on that one I just linked for $549.99...so look everyday and when you see one of those shoot down in price...jump on it. That computer for $650 is a steal...$550 is just ridiculous.

Hope this helps, newegg is a great site for any electronics...I'll never buy from Best Buy again...you can read about the quality and get better prices online...and super fast shipping, too.

J Diddy
09-01-2008, 04:14 PM
Call me, I sell IBM and Lenovo, teh best machine you can buy, I'll get you in one for around 450. Thinkpads are great workhorses. I payed like 350 for mine and it's been much better than my Dell`M` which died in like a yr. So yeah, I'd be glad to help you out. PM me if you're interested,


wtf?

$450, what kind of specs?

shipping?

Short Leash Hootie
09-01-2008, 04:15 PM
Call me, I sell IBM and Lenovo, teh best machine you can buy, I'll get you in one for around 450. Thinkpads are great workhorses. I payed like 350 for mine and it's been much better than my Dell`M` which died in like a yr. So yeah, I'd be glad to help you out. PM me if you're interested,

Meh. My friend has a Lenovo he bought for $900 a few years ago...it's pretty shitty, has a weak wireless card and nowhere near the RAM or harddrive space the HP I just bought has...

Of course he knows jack about computers so he probably just got hosed by getting it through a Best Buy or Circuit City...

J Diddy
09-01-2008, 04:17 PM
Meh. My friend has a Lenovo he bought for $900 a few years ago...it's pretty shitty, has a weak wireless card and nowhere near the RAM or harddrive space the HP I just bought has...

Of course he knows jack about computers so he probably just got hosed by getting it through a Best Buy or Circuit City...


if he went to Bestbuy probably $400 of that was some BS service plan he didn't need

Short Leash Hootie
09-01-2008, 04:19 PM
if he went to Bestbuy probably $400 of that was some BS service plan he didn't need
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised...

I mean, it's an ok laptop...

I just can't wait to get mine in the mail! Should be here tomorrow or Wednesday!

Mr. Laz
09-01-2008, 04:30 PM
you can a pretty freaking good laptop for 600 bucks nowadays

500 if you wait and get a good sale

lenovo are pretty good brand imo


remember to not skimp on the stuff cause it's pretty hard to upgrade a laptop


2 gigs of memory minimum
good graphics so the kid can play games for more than 6 months
hard drive can be upgraded but they are expensive (at least 80 gigs)
battery size can be a pain in the butt so watch for # of cells for good charge life

Simply Red
09-01-2008, 04:31 PM
Meh. My friend has a Lenovo he bought for $900 a few years ago...it's pretty shitty, has a weak wireless card and nowhere near the RAM or harddrive space the HP I just bought has...

Of course he knows jack about computers so he probably just got hosed by getting it through a Best Buy or Circuit City...

whatever, that's a config. issue not a quality problem.

Simply Red
09-01-2008, 04:34 PM
wtf?

$450, what kind of specs?

shipping?

I can cover freight, I wouldn't be making a dime on it. It'd be plug and play w/ office etc... Plenty of memory, also, CDRW and wireless internal..

Jewish Rabbi
09-01-2008, 05:09 PM
remember to not skimp on the stuff cause it's pretty hard to upgrade a laptop




It really isn't that hard to upgrade a laptop anymore other than the cpu/motherboard... Changed out my friend's RAM in under 5 minutes... HDD and and CD drive wouldn't take much longer than that either.

Mr. Laz
09-01-2008, 05:33 PM
It really isn't that hard to upgrade a laptop anymore other than the cpu/motherboard... Changed out my friend's RAM in under 5 minutes... HDD and and CD drive wouldn't take much longer than that either.

[/edit] never mind

Short Leash Hootie
09-02-2008, 08:17 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115482

Rad this computer rocks for $550 PLUS free shipping...this is the one I wanted but the deal was off as of last week and as of tonight it's back on...so if you really want a great laptop for a disgustingly low price, buy this one ASAP before the deal goes away...$550 tax included NO SHIPPING! Hurry!

Short Leash Hootie
09-04-2008, 11:02 AM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115482

Rad this computer rocks for $550 PLUS free shipping...this is the one I wanted but the deal was off as of last week and as of tonight it's back on...so if you really want a great laptop for a disgustingly low price, buy this one ASAP before the deal goes away...$550 tax included NO SHIPPING! Hurry!

enter this code, TODAY ONLY, and it is only $499.99 FREE shipping...this is an amazing deal...I just got my HP today and it is awesome but I wish I could've waited and gotten this deal...it's insane...go go go go go!

EMCAKAEAJ

Lzen
09-05-2008, 07:24 AM
Here is a pretty good buy. It is a refurb.

http://www.buy.com/prod/hp-pavilion-dv9823cl-laptop-17-wxga-high-definition-widescreen-x2-dual/q/loc/101/209112784.html

Fat Elvis
09-05-2008, 07:54 AM
If you are getting one that he can actually game on, this is a great buy....

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8892825&type=product&id=1211587727985

It is on sale through Saturday. A little on the expensive side, but it will last you for a while. I picked one up (for work) and love it.

phisherman
09-05-2008, 08:41 AM
If you are getting one that he can actually game on, this is a great buy....

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8892825&type=product&id=1211587727985

It is on sale through Saturday. A little on the expensive side, but it will last you for a while. I picked one up (for work) and love it.

here's a quick piece of GOOD advice.

don't buy anything from best buy, especially technology products. i'd bet you can find this very model somewhere else for at least 20% cheaper.

BB feeds on people that don't know s**t about technology and need guidance and reassurance about their purchase. i'm not saying that everyone that shops there is like that, but i've seen their associates say/do some pretty unscrupulous things to sell a pc or laptop to some unassuming customer that didn't know any better.

Fat Elvis
09-05-2008, 09:58 AM
here's a quick piece of GOOD advice.

don't buy anything from best buy, especially technology products. i'd bet you can find this very model somewhere else for at least 20% cheaper.

BB feeds on people that don't know s**t about technology and need guidance and reassurance about their purchase. i'm not saying that everyone that shops there is like that, but i've seen their associates say/do some pretty unscrupulous things to sell a pc or laptop to some unassuming customer that didn't know any better.

OK, I'll take that challenge: find me a laptop with the same specs for $999 (the price of this laptop -20%)

Here are the specs you need to match to qualify:

* Intel® Centrino® 2 processor technology with interrelated Intel® Core™2 Duo processor P8400, Intel® Mobile PM45 Express chipset, Intel® Wireless Wi-Fi Link network connection (802.11a/b/g/n), extended battery life capability
* 4GB DDR3 memory for multitasking power, 1066MHz frontside bus, 3MB L2 cache and 2.26GHz pocessor speed
* Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive with double-layer support records up to 8.5GB of data or 4 hours of video using compatible DVD+R DL and DVD-R DL media; supports DVD-RAM; also supports Labelflash direct-disc labels using compatible Labelflash media

* The next-generation Intel® Core™2 Duo processor is based on the innovative Intel® Core™ microarchitecture, so it runs faster and is more energy-efficient for cooler, quieter operation
* 17" WUXGA TFT widescreen display with 1920 x 1200 resolution
* 200GB SATA hard drive (7200 rpm)
* NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTS graphics with 512MB of GDDR3 discrete video memory; high-definition audio (2-channel); HDMI connector
* Built-in 1.3MP webcam makes it easy to chat with and send video mail to family and friends
* 5-in-1 digital media manager supports Secure Digital, MultiMediaCard, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO and xD-Picture Card
* IEEE 1394 (FireWire) interface and 3 high-speed USB 2.0 ports for fast digital video, audio and data transfer
* Built-in 10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN with RJ-11 connector; V.92 high-speed data/fax modem
* Weighs 9.2 lbs. and measures just 1.7" thin for portable power
* FX premium design with brushed metal keyboard surround sound high-impact composite finish; illuminated metal precision touch multimedia buttons

It ain't gonna happen. I'm no BestBuy fan, but you can't find a laptop that comes anywhere near those specs that doesn't cost significantly more than the BB price, let alone at a 20% discount.

Fat Elvis
09-05-2008, 10:06 AM
LOL, you can't even get the thing on EBAY for less than $1500.

Short Leash Hootie
09-05-2008, 11:09 AM
Here is a pretty good buy. It is a refurb.

http://www.buy.com/prod/hp-pavilion-dv9823cl-laptop-17-wxga-high-definition-widescreen-x2-dual/q/loc/101/209112784.html

damn...that is a good deal

RedandGold
09-05-2008, 11:26 AM
Here is a pretty good buy. It is a refurb.

http://www.buy.com/prod/hp-pavilion-dv9823cl-laptop-17-wxga-high-definition-widescreen-x2-dual/q/loc/101/209112784.html

If you don't mind the bulk of a larger laptop (the one pictured isn't the actual model they are offering), that's a steal at $599.

Personally, I prefer the 15.4", but if you did a lot of numbers work and didn't want to tote around a separate 10-key, that 17" model would do the trick.

Fat Elvis
09-05-2008, 08:17 PM
Here is a killer deal on a laptop with blu-ray and dedicated video card.....

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=915372

luv
09-22-2008, 09:19 PM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8874257&type=product&id=1210378661986#tabbed-customerreviews

To buy or not to buy?

luv
09-22-2008, 09:47 PM
I should add that I'm not a gamer. I like to be online. I'll be storing pictures, music (not even 1000 songs), and articles on it. I would like to have it run fast, and I want to put at least Word and Excel on it. I want something that's lightweight. Webcam isn't necessary, but it's a nice feature. Widescreen would be nice, too.

Is the one I posted going to be more than what I need? If so, what would you recommend?

J Diddy
09-22-2008, 10:07 PM
I should add that I'm not a gamer. I like to be online. I'll be storing pictures, music (not even 1000 songs), and articles on it. I would like to have it run fast, and I want to put at least Word and Excel on it. I want something that's lightweight. Webcam isn't necessary, but it's a nice feature. Widescreen would be nice, too.

Is the one I posted going to be more than what I need? If so, what would you recommend?

I'm on a lower scale inspiron than that one and it would satisfy your needs. You should be great with that.

Short Leash Hootie
09-23-2008, 03:46 AM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8874257&type=product&id=1210378661986#tabbed-customerreviews

To buy or not to buy?

This one is better, has free 3 day shipping, has better reviews, and is $350 cheaper...and has a bigger screen...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115497

The only thing the Dell has over that is 3 GB RAM, opposed to the 2 GB RAM the Acer Extensa has...but for what you're doing, you won't even tell the difference, definitely not the $350...plus you don't need 250 GB HD for what you're storing, 120 GB is plenty.

This is a STEAL of a deal right now.

It is getting 5 eggs right now (the best possible review) and you can read all 22 customer reviews as well...but I'd get this one and save yourself $350...free shipping as well.

Short Leash Hootie
09-23-2008, 03:51 AM
If you're set on spending around $800, I'd go with this one over the Dell any day of the week...I have an HP that I just bought and I love it...I bought a slightly cheaper model but this one is amazing as well...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834147740

So if you have the $800 and want a top line non-gaming laptop, buy this one!

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-23-2008, 03:57 AM
The trick to Best Buy is to buy it when it is on sale and don't get any of their dumbass Geek Squad services or their horrendously overpriced extended warranties (that are functionally worthless).

They actually sell the laptops below cost when they are on sale, and they count on idiots to make up their profit margin through buying 150 dollars worth of services for installing 2 software programs that anyone whose ever checked their email could do.

luv
09-23-2008, 07:38 AM
If you're set on spending around $800, I'd go with this one over the Dell any day of the week...I have an HP that I just bought and I love it...I bought a slightly cheaper model but this one is amazing as well...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834147740

So if you have the $800 and want a top line non-gaming laptop, buy this one!

I'm set on Best Buy. I don't have a newegg.com credit card. And if I pay my Best Buy card off within 18 months, no interest.

luv
09-23-2008, 07:39 AM
The trick to Best Buy is to buy it when it is on sale and don't get any of their dumbass Geek Squad services or their horrendously overpriced extended warranties (that are functionally worthless).

They actually sell the laptops below cost when they are on sale, and they count on idiots to make up their profit margin through buying 150 dollars worth of services for installing 2 software programs that anyone whose ever checked their email could do.

Yeah. I made that mistake when I bought my old laptop. A simple $450 Acer ended up costing me $750 after warranty and Geek Squad. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.....ain't gonna happen.

luv
09-23-2008, 07:41 AM
Also, what type of anti-virus would you suggest?

Mecca
09-23-2008, 07:42 AM
I heard that you should steal one....that and having a cool bike will get you some ladies.

luv
09-23-2008, 09:28 AM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8874257&type=product&id=1210378661986#tabbed-customerreviews

To buy or not to buy?

This just went on sale for $599.99 and I can get it in red!

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8892754&type=product&id=1211587727567

luv
09-23-2008, 06:58 PM
Wow. You all are so.........helpful.

QuikSsurfer
09-23-2008, 07:29 PM
Yes.

Short Leash Hootie
09-24-2008, 03:23 AM
Also, what type of anti-virus would you suggest?

None...use Windows Defender and Mozilla Firefox and you are fine. Norton and even AVG is just bloatware...if you really want one, use NOD32...

Short Leash Hootie
09-24-2008, 03:24 AM
This just went on sale for $599.99 and I can get it in red!

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8892754&type=product&id=1211587727567

better than the 1st one...

I'd still buy from newegg. Sign up for a newegg credit card...I'm sure you have good credit, you seem responsible.

luv
09-24-2008, 08:25 AM
None...use Windows Defender and Mozilla Firefox and you are fine. Norton and even AVG is just bloatware...if you really want one, use NOD32...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1201307260158&skuId=8727791&type=product

Trend Micro.

I believe this is what I had put on my old laptop, and it did just fine.

And it's only $10.

J Diddy
09-24-2008, 08:29 AM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1201307260158&skuId=8727791&type=product

Trend Micro.

I believe this is what I had put on my old laptop, and it did just fine.

And it's only $10.


avast is what i'm running on 2

And it's only free.

rad
09-24-2008, 04:41 PM
I wanted to thank everyone for replying, You all have been very helpful....

We went out today and bought this:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8897624&type=product&id=1212192350169#tabbed-customerreviews

Again, thanks for all the help guys.

rad
09-25-2008, 02:56 PM
OK, what kind of router do I need for this thing? I don't know what the difference is between the 802.11a or b or c or g or n.......all I know is it has to be 2.4 Ghz

Lzen
09-26-2008, 09:31 PM
I have been using a Toshiba Satellite for the past 2 or 3 years. Pretty decent laptop.

Oh, and I 2nd Diddy's recommendation for Avast Antivirus.

As for a router, that can get kind of complicated. First, there are a couple of main ones that you can pick up at your local store now, 802.11g or 802.11n. The letter stands for the data transfer speed. G is 54mbps and n is 300mbps (some people may still be using a b device. It is 11mbps. I don't know the speed of a, but you can imagine it's much slower). N is the newer one and is still called draft (N) I believe because there isn't a standard yet. Basically, it is possible that you could run into problems with different devices not talking to each other properly.
As for the frequency, I think pretty much all routers are on the 2.4 Ghz frequency.
It would help to know what kind of setup you are looking to do. Will it just be the laptop? Will there be multiple PCs on the wireless network? Or will you have a main PC direct connect with an ethernet cable and the laptop wireless? What kind of distance and how many floors, walls, etc.?

Lzen
09-26-2008, 09:37 PM
Ok, I just looked at that laptop. Looks like it has a wireless card that does b/g. In other words, if you were to buy an N router, it may not work with it. However, I think a lot of routers nowadays run multiple standards. The setting will say something like "mixed mode". Just be sure to check on that.

Also, what will you be doing? Mainly surfing and email? Or will there be other things that take up bandwidth?

rad
09-27-2008, 08:07 AM
I have been using a Toshiba Satellite for the past 2 or 3 years. Pretty decent laptop.

Oh, and I 2nd Diddy's recommendation for Avast Antivirus.

As for a router, that can get kind of complicated. First, there are a couple of main ones that you can pick up at your local store now, 802.11g or 802.11n. The letter stands for the data transfer speed. G is 54mbps and n is 300mbps (some people may still be using a b device. It is 11mbps. I don't know the speed of a, but you can imagine it's much slower). N is the newer one and is still called draft (N) I believe because there isn't a standard yet. Basically, it is possible that you could run into problems with different devices not talking to each other properly.
As for the frequency, I think pretty much all routers are on the 2.4 Ghz frequency.
It would help to know what kind of setup you are looking to do. Will it just be the laptop? Will there be multiple PCs on the wireless network? Or will you have a main PC direct connect with an ethernet cable and the laptop wireless? What kind of distance and how many floors, walls, etc.?

This.

1 floor, few walls. He will just be playing online games and googling bewbies.

rad
09-27-2008, 08:09 AM
Ok, I just looked at that laptop. Looks like it has a wireless card that does b/g. In other words, if you were to buy an N router, it may not work with it. However, I think a lot of routers nowadays run multiple standards. The setting will say something like "mixed mode". Just be sure to check on that.

Also, what will you be doing? Mainly surfing and email? Or will there be other things that take up bandwidth?

I have this desktop that he can use also......the laptop is basically his to play his games and websurf........no heavy duty stuff.

BTW, thanks for the advice.