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BIG_DADDY
09-01-2008, 12:27 PM
Palin was a great choice. I can't tell you how nice it is to see a woman like her become the first to break through the glass ceiling instead of someone like Hillary. Loved the footage of her shooting.

If she is such a bad choice why all the threads?


IF she is so unqualified what is Osama?

GO Palin!!!!!

banyon
09-01-2008, 12:28 PM
Because she was not very well known and she was a new topic to talk about?

Cannibal
09-01-2008, 12:30 PM
You say you like takin it in the ass from your Pitt Bulls? Damn man, that's kinda sick, but it is a free Country I guess. You might wanna be weary of the beastiality laws in your area though.

beer bacon
09-01-2008, 12:30 PM
Palin shows the horrible judgment of McCain. He has made such an issue of Obama's "experience," but he choose a VP that is even less experienced. Since the first and most important quality of the VP is readiness to assume the Presidency in the event that something happens to the President, McCain obviously doesn't actually believe in his own experience argument that he has spent millions of dollars making.

chagrin
09-01-2008, 12:33 PM
Palin shows the horrible judgment of McCain. He has made such an issue of Obama's "experience," but he choose a VP that is even less experienced.

This statement alone is really the perfect representation that mcCain doesn't make sound decisions.

I never liked the guy that much anyway but his choice was horrible and there's nothing that's going to stop him from losing now.

Ultra Peanut
09-01-2008, 12:35 PM
Nobody's going to vote for a black man named Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J Diddy
09-01-2008, 12:36 PM
here we go again with the glass ceiling thing

Cannibal
09-01-2008, 12:37 PM
Nobody's going to vote for a black man named Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Big Daddy is probably getting a little nervous. A Darkie is within earshot of the Presidency. What is this world coming to?

BucEyedPea
09-01-2008, 12:40 PM
Palin was a great choice. I can't tell you how nice it is to see a woman like her become the first to break through the glass ceiling instead of someone like Hillary. Loved the footage of her shooting.

If she is such a bad choice why all the threads?


IF she is so unqualified what is Osama?

GO Palin!!!!!

One can tell how good something is by how hard their rivals howl.

HolmeZz
09-01-2008, 12:42 PM
Palin was a great choice.

I thought you were looking for a middle of the road moderate with experience?

beer bacon
09-01-2008, 12:43 PM
One can tell how good something is by how hard their rivals howl.

Ahh yes, straight from the Pat Buchanan school of political thought. According to this logic, the more scandal-plagued the candidate, the more the opposition "howls," the better the candidate.

Cannibal
09-01-2008, 12:43 PM
One can tell how good something is by how hard their rivals howl.

I am not howling at all. I think she is a hot PoA that will be in WAY over her head when the debates start. She knows ZERO about national politics or foreign policy and it will show big time at the debates [no matter how much she studies in the next month]. Especially when she has to try to defend Bush admistration policies.

chiefforlife
09-01-2008, 12:44 PM
Palin was a great choice. I can't tell you how nice it is to see a woman like her become the first to break through the glass ceiling instead of someone like Hillary. Loved the footage of her shooting.

I wonder if her aim is better than the last VP?

If she is such a bad choice why all the threads?


IF she is so unqualified what is Osama?


I didnt even know Osama was running?

Hoover
09-01-2008, 12:47 PM
I'm with Big Daddy on this one.

She's a great pick, and the Dems are pissed because they didn't think McCain would tab her. They wanted Mitt Romney or some other stale politician that normal American's can't relate too. Sorry.

beer bacon
09-01-2008, 12:48 PM
I'm with Big Daddy on this one.

She's a great pick, and the Dems are pissed because they didn't think McCain would tab her. They wanted Mitt Romney or some other stale politician that normal American's can't relate too. Sorry.

New litmus test for partisanship.

HolmeZz
09-01-2008, 12:49 PM
One can tell how good something is by how hard their rivals howl.

So true. All the Bush-bashing is really just a sign of how great he's been.

Friendo
09-01-2008, 12:51 PM
So true. All the Bush-bashing is really just a sign of how great he's been.

ROFL @ face-value

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-01-2008, 12:57 PM
I can't tell you how highly my opinions of some of you RW'ers have elevated since you've used "footage of her shooting" and the fact that she likes to hunt and fish as reasons for supporting a ticket for President of the United States.

I think that the cost of stupid must be going through the roof, because the market is definitely cornered here.

StcChief
09-01-2008, 12:59 PM
Big Daddy is probably getting a little nervous. A Darkie is within earshot of the Presidency. What is this world coming to?
a bullet away

banyon
09-01-2008, 01:17 PM
I'm with Big Daddy on this one.

She's a great pick, and the Dems are pissed because they didn't think McCain would tab her. They wanted Mitt Romney or some other stale politician that normal American's can't relate too. Sorry.

Uh, yeah, I remember when I didn't think he would pick her (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=186236&highlight=bailey).

unlurking
09-01-2008, 01:50 PM
I can't believe I'm in agreement with BD, I think the world is coming to an end.

J Diddy
09-01-2008, 01:56 PM
I'm with Big Daddy on this one.

She's a great pick, and the Dems are pissed because they didn't think McCain would tab her. They wanted Mitt Romney or some other stale politician that normal American's can't relate too. Sorry.


I ain't mad at all

kinda relieved

BCD
09-01-2008, 02:04 PM
Seems to me BHO supporters are scared. If not, why would they bother digging for dirt on her?

BCD
09-01-2008, 02:08 PM
So true. All the Bush-bashing is really just a sign of how great he's been.Wow. So not the same thing. At all.

beer bacon
09-01-2008, 02:08 PM
Seems to me BHO supporters are scared. If not, why would they bother digging for dirt on her?

Somebody has to vet her.

BucEyedPea
09-01-2008, 02:09 PM
So true. All the Bush-bashing is really just a sign of how great he's been.

Well, he IS one of greatest to all the Bushies. Just NOT to most Americans
(includes me) not just what can be considered the right's routine rivals. So this doesn't apply as too many agree across the board.

HolmeZz
09-01-2008, 02:16 PM
Wow. So not the same thing. At all.

Because it invalidates the silly statement?

BucEyedPea
09-01-2008, 02:16 PM
I am not howling at all. I think she is a hot PoA that will be in WAY over her head when the debates start. She knows ZERO about national politics or foreign policy and it will show big time at the debates [no matter how much she studies in the next month]. Especially when she has to try to defend Bush admistration policies.

Well Geez! Even McCain is getting some tutoring currently in economics from his NC economic advisor Carly Fiorina. Ya' know the lady who has a rep as America's most incompetent CEO who got there through affirmative action.

Maybe she won't get to defend the Bush administration's policies. I would hope she'd defend a more truer version of the Right's policies than this new style of left leaning administration that is errantly called conservative.

Logical
09-01-2008, 02:17 PM
Seems to me BHO supporters are scared. If not, why would they bother digging for dirt on her?Mostly the press is diggin, people here are just posting their finds.

Laz
09-01-2008, 02:19 PM
So true. All the Bush-bashing is really just a sign of how great he's been.ROFLROFL

ya .... everyone is just jealous of Palin and Bush :cuss:



holy shiite ... Big Daddy's conversion to the GOP is now complete

ROYC75
09-01-2008, 02:21 PM
Palin wasn't my choice, but I can understand McCain's reasons for selecting her. Will it work ? Time will tell..........

Mr. Kotter
09-01-2008, 02:23 PM
I can't believe I'm in agreement with BD, I think the world is coming to an end.

Yeah, I hate to say it.....but something that both BigDaddy and Duhnise agreeing on, should make us wonder. :hmmm:

Adept Havelock
09-01-2008, 02:32 PM
Ahh yes, straight from the Pat Buchanan school of political thought. According to this logic, the more scandal-plagued the candidate, the more the opposition "howls," the better the candidate.

Going by that standard, Obama and McCain must be spectacularly good candidates. I've seen little but howls against them for months now. :shake:

I am not howling at all. I think she is a hot PoA that will be in WAY over her head when the debates start. She knows ZERO about national politics or foreign policy and it will show big time at the debates [no matter how much she studies in the next month]. Especially when she has to try to defend Bush admistration policies.

It also sets up the meme of "look at how mean Biden was to that nice pretty lady", when he mops the floor with her in the VP debates.

DaneMcCloud
09-01-2008, 02:34 PM
Palin was a great choice. I can't tell you how nice it is to see a woman like her become the first to break through the glass ceiling instead of someone like Hillary. Loved the footage of her shooting.

If she is such a bad choice why all the threads?


IF she is so unqualified what is Osama?

GO Palin!!!!!

Why would anyone be surprised that BD likes this woman?

Hell, if she were into other women, she'd be BD's wet dream.

Adept Havelock
09-01-2008, 02:36 PM
Why would anyone be surprised that BD likes this woman?

Hell, if she were into other women, she'd be BD's wet dream.

Nah, she's too old for BD. :p

BucEyedPea
09-01-2008, 02:39 PM
Going by that standard, Obama and McCain must be spectacularly good candidates. I've seen little but howls against them for months now.

Precisely. Obama won white Iowa, had huge turnouts at rallies of enthusiastic supporters and good press. The D primaries had more voters and Indy's came for Obama. So the scandals followed to take him down a few notches: 24/7 video clips of Reverand Wright for instance...and that wasn't all. He was also a terrorist. Remember?

BucEyedPea
09-01-2008, 02:42 PM
It also sets up the meme of "look at how mean Biden was to that nice pretty lady", when he mops the floor with her in the VP debates.

I will bump this afterwards. I won't predict as I admit I don't know enough of her in this area but I heard she's tenacious and tough as nails. She went up against the entrenched corrupt old boys network in her party and cleaned their clocks. So we'll see.

whoman69
09-01-2008, 03:03 PM
Seems to me BHO supporters are scared. If not, why would they bother digging for dirt on her?

You don't have to dig very far. For one thing she doesn't have much of a history, but what is there is political opportunism and cronyism. Is the Chief of Police position that important in a town of 5000 that you fire him because he supported your opponent in the election? Don't like the makeup of the government committees? Just do like Gonzales and fire them all and put in your own picks. Why not support something until it becomes unpopular and then say you were against it all the time like the bridge to nowhere. Then go about and say you stood up for budget restraint and keep the money from the pork project anyway, all the while signing the largest budget in state's history.
What is really the big issue is how condescending the pick is. McCain is busting on Obama the whole time about his experience and then chooses someone with less experience to be his VP, one step away from the Presidency behind a candidate who is 72 years old with a long history of cancer.

penchief
09-01-2008, 03:16 PM
Maybe she won't get to defend the Bush administration's policies. I would hope she'd defend a more truer version of the Right's policies than this new style of left leaning administration that is errantly called conservative.

This administration is not left-leaning. Every time you make this claim you undermine anything legitimate you might have to say. When 100% of the left disagrees with everything this administration has done economically, and otherwise, it is disingenous to insist that the administration is leftist.

The "Big spender" label does not equate to leftist no matter how much conservatives want to sell that theory. This administration is in cahoots with business crooks and war profiteers, which are anything but leftist. So while you do have a lot of legitimate points to make, you do yourself a disservice when you insist on trying to blame the left for the failings of this administration's right wing ideologies.

Direckshun
09-01-2008, 03:18 PM
If she is such a bad choice why all the threads?
ROFL

Logical
09-01-2008, 03:18 PM
I didn't think Big Daddy would ever end up with sand in the vagina disease, but it appears even the mighty are susceptible.

penchief
09-01-2008, 03:18 PM
ROFLROFL

ya .... everyone is just jealous of Palin and Bush :cuss:



holy shiite ... Big Daddy's conversion to the GOP is now complete

There's been no conversion. He's always been a hard right republican no matter how much he has professed otherwise. All one ever had to do was read his posts to tell that he was pretending to be something he wasn't.

BIG_DADDY
09-01-2008, 03:39 PM
So true. All the Bush-bashing is really just a sign of how great he's been.

You give me grief every single time I have been critical of Obama because it shouldn't matter because I predicted obama would lose. Now you jump on the other side. How hypocritical. They are all for legalizing racism and if you don't agree you are labeled a racist. If you don't back their candidate you are a racist. Now the women thing. They are all for women getting their chance until it's the other party doing the promoting then all the dagers come out. LMAO What a joke.

BIG_DADDY
09-01-2008, 03:40 PM
Why would anyone be surprised that BD likes this woman?

Hell, if she were into other women, she'd be BD's wet dream.

REP LMAO

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 11:14 AM
You give me grief every single time I have been critical of Obama because it shouldn't matter because I predicted obama would lose. Now you jump on the other side. How hypocritical. They are all for legalizing racism and if you don't agree you are labeled a racist. If you don't back their candidate you are a racist. Now the women thing. They are all for women getting their chance until it's the other party doing the promoting then all the dagers come out. LMAO What a joke.

I'm going to say it again, you guys are pathetic. No surprise Holmezz is MIA on this.

WilliamTheIrish
09-05-2008, 11:16 AM
It's politics bro. Quit acting like this is some surprise.

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 11:20 AM
It's politics bro. Quit acting like this is some surprise.

I just think it's funny when someone endlessly bashes somebody for something then immediatley does the exact opposite.

So much for the dems being the party promoting women. I have never seen the anyone go after a woman like they have here.

irishjayhawk
09-05-2008, 11:22 AM
I just think it's funny when someone endlessly bashes somebody for something then immediatley does the exact opposite.

So much for the dems being the party promoting women. I have never seen the anyone go after a woman like they have here.

So you think the Palin selection was funny and wrong?

Carlota69
09-05-2008, 11:22 AM
I just think it's funny when someone endlessly bashes somebody for something then immediatley does the exact opposite.

So much for the dems being the party promoting women. I have never seen the anyone go after a woman like they have here.

3 words: Hillary Rodham Clinton

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 11:22 AM
Wow there are 11 threads about her just on this page. Anyone who thought she was a bad pick needs to have their head examined.

DaKCMan AP
09-05-2008, 11:24 AM
I just think it's funny when someone endlessly bashes somebody for something then immediatley does the exact opposite.

Like McCain bashing Obama for lack of "experience" and then picking a running mate who lacks "experience"?

So much for the dems being the party promoting women. I have never seen the anyone go after a woman like they have here.

Palin isn't being attacked because she's a woman.

Chiefnj2
09-05-2008, 11:30 AM
Like McCain bashing Obama for lack of "experience" and then picking a running mate who lacks "experience"?



Palin isn't being attacked because she's a woman.

Forget it. He's blinded by women who like guns. If Palin were to promote the use of moose hunting with pitbulls he'd get a tattoo of her across his chest.

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 11:31 AM
Like McCain bashing Obama for lack of "experience" and then picking a running mate who lacks "experience"?



Palin isn't being attacked because she's a woman.

No she is being picked on because she was an awesome choice and they need to knock her down a few notches. Dems are pissed that he picked her.

There have been plenty of comments like she shouldn't be trying to be VP when she has 5 kids and should be at home. Isn't this what the femenists have been bitching about forever? It's funny to hear these same women use it now.

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 11:32 AM
Forget it. He's blinded by women who like guns. If Palin were to promote the use of moose hunting with pitbulls he'd get a tattoo of her across his chest.

Wait a minute isn't she the pitbull with lipstick? Maybe the douchebags can just get her banned.

She is a lot better than that dyke the dems pissed on to get Obama in. It's nice to see a real woman get a chance to represent America.

ChiefaRoo
09-05-2008, 11:37 AM
Barry is gripping as we speak. Great pick

Chiefnj2
09-05-2008, 11:38 AM
Wait a minute isn't she the pitbull with lipstick? Maybe the douchebags can just get her banned.

She is a lot better than that dyke the dems pissed on to get Obama in. It's nice to see a real woman get a chance to represent America.

You complain about people attacking her because she is a woman and then you refer to Hillary as a dyke.

RJ
09-05-2008, 11:42 AM
There have been plenty of comments like she shouldn't be trying to be VP when she has 5 kids and should be at home. Isn't this what the femenists have been bitching about forever? It's funny to hear these same women use it now.



I haven't read any comments like that. Do you mean here or in the media?

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 11:47 AM
You complain about people attacking her because she is a woman and then you refer to Hillary as a dyke.

Hillary is a Dyke. Anyone that knows anyone in the secret service would confirm it for you. To tell you the truth I think that is one of the reason so many delegates switched sides in fear that the big elephant in the room that nobody was talking about was going to be revealed by the Republicans.

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 11:48 AM
I haven't read any comments like that. Do you mean here or in the media?

I haven't been here much. I can see offensive against her here is pretty unbelievable though. Right after the announcement the media was saying it.

RJ
09-05-2008, 11:52 AM
I haven't been here much. I can see offensive against her here is pretty unbelievable though. Right after the announcement the media was saying it.


I guess I don't watch enough television. I've not heard or read anyone say she should be staying home with her kids.

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 12:01 PM
I guess I don't watch enough television. I've not heard or read anyone say she should be staying home with her kids.

Well did you watch McCain announce her as his VP? I watched on NBC and the media was pissed. They had nothing of substance to say about her so they went with that. Then there is all the condensending remarks. If you don't think the way the media and the Planet has went after her is off the charts I don't exactly know what to say.

Alot of these threads here ridiculous. I feel ebarrassed for the people that posted them. Hiding Palin, yea that's gonna happen.

Chiefnj2
09-05-2008, 12:04 PM
Hiding Palin, yea that's gonna happen.

When is she scheduled for interviews with the press?

RaiderH8r
09-05-2008, 12:08 PM
Palin shows the horrible judgment of McCain. He has made such an issue of Obama's "experience," but he choose a VP that is even less experienced. Since the first and most important quality of the VP is readiness to assume the Presidency in the event that something happens to the President, McCain obviously doesn't actually believe in his own experience argument that he has spent millions of dollars making.

And Obama, the Change Agent, chose the stereotypical slick Washington DC insider, the beltway boy, Biden of the bleached teeth and the hair plugs, the thousand dollar suits and the $400 leather shoes, so much for making the case that Barry's different from the average politician. But anyone who has watched Barry's career knows he's a smut merchant from the get go and his current platitudes and rhetoric are shallow lines of BS meant to placate his brainwashed masses.

RJ
09-05-2008, 12:12 PM
BD, I'm not saying you are wrong, just that I've not heard or read anything like that. Honestly though, I didn't listen much to the commentary after the speeches. I don't need them to tell me what I heard.

I personally don't like Palin because I don't like her politics, but I'd never say she should turn down a chance to be Vice President and maybe President because she has kids. I'm surprised any journalist would make such a statement, seems like that would piss off a lot of people, especially women.

Carlota69
09-05-2008, 12:13 PM
And Obama, the Change Agent, chose the stereotypical slick Washington DC insider, the beltway boy, Biden of the bleached teeth and the hair plugs, the thousand dollar suits and the $400 leather shoes, so much for making the case that Barry's different from the average politician. But anyone who has watched Barry's career knows he's a smut merchant from the get go and his current platitudes and rhetoric are shallow lines of BS meant to placate his brainwashed masses.

Excuse me, but doesnt McCain wear expensive shoes and very expensive suits? Hasn't he been a part of the belt-way crowd for just as long or longer? Isnt he the richest senator in Washington? Isnt Biden the poorest?

Bototm line is they are all career politicans. They are all slick and they all wear expensive clothes. To put Biden down for $400 shoes when your candidate is just as guilty is ridiculous.

Chiefnj2
09-05-2008, 12:15 PM
BD, I'm not saying you are wrong, just that I've not heard or read anything like that. Honestly though, I didn't listen much to the commentary after the speeches. I don't need them to tell me what I heard.

I personally don't like Palin because I don't like her politics, but I'd never say she should turn down a chance to be Vice President and maybe President because she has kids. I'm surprised any journalist would make such a statement, seems like that would piss off a lot of people, especially women.

I think some people questioned whether most women would stay home and take care of a baby with Downs Syndrome and a pregnant teen daughter, as opposed to a life of travel and severe time constraints over the next 4 years. Some also questioned whether accepting the VP position and the public outing that would follow put extra strain on her daughter.

BigCatDaddy
09-05-2008, 12:18 PM
I think some people questioned whether most women would stay home and take care of a baby with Downs Syndrome and a pregnant teen daughter, as opposed to a life of travel and severe time constraints over the next 4 years. Some also questioned whether accepting the VP position and the public outing that would follow put extra strain on her daughter.

Is a vice president really in that much of demand? We don't exactly see a whole lot of Dick Chaney.

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 12:20 PM
When is she scheduled for interviews with the press?

Give a friggen break the convention just ended a few hours ago. You guys are amazing.

BigChiefFan
09-05-2008, 12:22 PM
Is a vice president really in that much of demand? We don't exactly see a whole lot of Dick Chaney.
LMAO. The VP just stands there and looks presidential, right?

RaiderH8r
09-05-2008, 12:25 PM
Excuse me, but doesnt McCain wear expensive shoes and very expensive suits? Hasn't he been a part of the belt-way crowd for just as long or longer? Isnt he the richest senator in Washington? Isnt Biden the poorest?

Bototm line is they are all career politicans. They are all slick and they all wear expensive clothes. To put Biden down for $400 shoes when your candidate is just as guilty is ridiculous.

I'm pointing out that Politics as Obama is politics as usual. He's everything he says he's not. His speeches are shallow platitudes and he talks the talk but doesn't walk it. He is a used car salesman.

Furthermore, McCain's got the experience on the ticket and he's the one with the big red phone. His mom is a spry 96 so he's got that going for him too. Christ, everybody thought Cheney was going to kick it 5 years ago but he's still getting around just fine and, according to some, still running the world.

Palin taps into everybody who isn't from LA, SF, NY, or DC. She taps into rural America. This is why Obama's scared. She puts NM, CO, MT, IN, PA, OH, and MI back into play. She energizes everybody to whom Obama condescends and looks down upon for being from a small town and what his party condescendingly calls the flyover states. Those folks matter and make up most of America and now there's a fire under their butt.

alanm
09-05-2008, 12:27 PM
Like McCain bashing Obama for lack of "experience" and then picking a running mate who lacks "experience"?



Palin isn't being attacked because she's a woman.
Palin has it all over Obama when it comes to experience. But then maybe less so as a community organizer.

BigCatDaddy
09-05-2008, 12:27 PM
LMAO. The VP just stands there and looks presidential, right?

Is it more of a strenuous schedule then governor, or are more hours really needed?

BigChiefFan
09-05-2008, 12:29 PM
I'm pointing out that Politics as Obama is politics as usual. He's everything he says he's not. His speeches are shallow platitudes and he talks the talk but doesn't walk it. He is a used car salesman.

Furthermore, McCain's got the experience on the ticket and he's the one with the big red phone. His mom is a spry 96 so he's got that going for him too. Christ, everybody thought Cheney was going to kick it 5 years ago but he's still getting around just fine and, according to some, still running the world.

Palin taps into everybody who isn't from LA, SF, NY, or DC. She taps into rural America. This is why Obama's scared. She puts NM, CO, MT, IN, PA, OH, and MI back into play. She energizes everybody to whom Obama condescends and looks down upon for being from a small town and what his party condescendingly calls the flyover states. Those folks matter and make up most of America and now there's a fire under their butt.

WRONG. Obama actually has a PLAN that is easily accesible to anybody that cares to view it. McCain, on the other hand, has a plan of tearing down the other guy and taking care of the wealthy and priviledged. Obama is out for the middle-class and poor, sorry, you have been living in a cave, but you can come out now and actually look at the facts, instead of distortions and untruths.


Hello, Chicago is MIDDLE America!!!! Surrounded by the farm belt.

BigChiefFan
09-05-2008, 12:31 PM
Is it more of a strenuous schedule then governor, or are more hours really needed?YES, the V.P serves as the PRESIDENT of the SENATE.

Carlota69
09-05-2008, 12:34 PM
I'm pointing out that Politics as Obama is politics as usual. He's everything he says he's not. His speeches are shallow platitudes and he talks the talk but doesn't walk it. He is a used car salesman.

.


Well I have said that all along, Obama is a slick politician like the rest of them. I've never thought differently. They are all dirty. It's just how dirty do you want to get? But, I'm jaded. I've been lied to too many times by all these professional Washington types.

I just trust Obama more (and thats not saying a ton) more than I do ol' Johnny boy.

Calcountry
09-05-2008, 12:35 PM
Big Daddy is probably getting a little nervous. A Darkie is within earshot of the Presidency. What is this world coming to?
Considering the size of Barack's ears, he is already there. :p

alanm
09-05-2008, 12:35 PM
WRONG. Obama actually has a PLAN that is easily accesible to anybody that cares to view it. McCain, on the other hand, has a plan of tearing down the other guy and taking care of the wealthy and priviledged. Obama is out for the middle-class and poor, sorry, you have been living in a cave, but you can come out now and actually look at the facts, instead of distortions and untruths.


Hello, Chicago is MIDDLE America!!!! Surrounded by the farm belt.
Has he told anyone of the PLAN yet? Cause I haven't heard much of anything.
And it's probably just me but I consider anything east of the Mississippi the mid east states. :D

J Diddy
09-05-2008, 12:35 PM
LMAO. The VP just stands there and looks presidential, right?

Probably.

I hear it's also a good thing if you do business with her husband.

J Diddy
09-05-2008, 12:36 PM
Has he told anyone of the PLAN yet? Cause I haven't heard much of anything.
And it's probably just me but I consider anything east of the Mississippi the mid east states. :D

what about the South northern eastern west states?

Amnorix
09-05-2008, 12:36 PM
I thought you were looking for a middle of the road moderate with experience?


Big Daddy has only one issue -- the 2nd amendment litmus test. Palin passes, so it's all good in his book.

alanm
09-05-2008, 12:37 PM
what about the South northern eastern west states?
Their on their own.

J Diddy
09-05-2008, 12:42 PM
Their on their own.


We need a candidate that stands up for them. How many houses McCain own in them states? It's just not fair.

BigChiefFan
09-05-2008, 12:44 PM
Has he told anyone of the PLAN yet? Cause I haven't heard much of anything.
And it's probably just me but I consider anything east of the Mississippi the mid east states. :D
Go to Barackobama.com- everything is there in print. He takes on every pertinent issue in the country and yes, you guessed it, he has a solution to all those problems. I encourage to take a look.

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 01:02 PM
Big Daddy has only one issue -- the 2nd amendment litmus test. Palin passes, so it's all good in his book.


What I said is I wish the Dems would bring a good moderate to the table instead of these wackos. I like Palin for a lot of reason. Financial surplus and the gun are just the tip of the iceberg.

Calcountry
09-05-2008, 01:06 PM
So true. All the Bush-bashing is really just a sign of how great he's been.Beware, that you underestimate the level of bashing that was coming from his own support base and console yourself with the comfort that we all must believe as a left wing neo-liberation-Marxist does just because we want Bush gone almost as bad as you.

Go on, keep lulling yourself into a false level of security about that evil Bush is going to carry you to a victory.

Garcia Bronco
09-05-2008, 01:46 PM
Palin was a great choice. I can't tell you how nice it is to see a woman like her become the first to break through the glass ceiling instead of someone like Hillary. Loved the footage of her shooting.

If she is such a bad choice why all the threads?


IF she is so unqualified what is Osama?

GO Palin!!!!!


Point blank the media didn't pick her and the liberal blogis hacks were going to trash anyone they picked.

Garcia Bronco
09-05-2008, 01:47 PM
Palin shows the horrible judgment of McCain. He has made such an issue of Obama's "experience," but he choose a VP that is even less experienced. Since the first and most important quality of the VP is readiness to assume the Presidency in the event that something happens to the President, McCain obviously doesn't actually believe in his own experience argument that he has spent millions of dollars making.


Palin has more executive experience than Biden, McCain, and Obama put together.

HolmeZz
09-05-2008, 01:50 PM
What I said is I wish the Dems would bring a good moderate to the table instead of these wackos. I like Palin for a lot of reason. Financial surplus and the gun are just the tip of the iceberg.

She left the little town of Wasilla $20 million in debt.

Palin's not moderate. She's retardedly far right.

penchief
09-05-2008, 01:52 PM
She left the little town of Wasilla $20 million in debt.

Palin's not moderate. She's retardedly far right.

Exactly. It hasn't taken long to figure out that she's just another right wing ideologue in the same mold as those who have degraded our country over the past eight years.

irishjayhawk
09-05-2008, 01:58 PM
No she is being picked on because she was an awesome choice and they need to knock her down a few notches. Dems are pissed that he picked her.

There have been plenty of comments like she shouldn't be trying to be VP when she has 5 kids and should be at home. Isn't this what the femenists have been bitching about forever? It's funny to hear these same women use it now.

ROFL

So you see no hypocrisy between McCain's argument about experience and Palin as a selection?



Looks like BD has his head up his ass.

SHTSPRAYER
09-05-2008, 02:00 PM
What I said is I wish the Dems would bring a good moderate to the table instead of these wackos.

QFT

HolmeZz
09-05-2008, 02:01 PM
QFT

What would be a moderate to you? In terms of a Dem you'd vote for.

WilliamTheIrish
09-05-2008, 02:19 PM
What I said is I wish the Dems would bring a good moderate to the table instead of these wackos. I like Palin for a lot of reason. Financial surplus and the gun are just the tip of the iceberg.

What financial surplus?

Logical
09-05-2008, 02:34 PM
I just think it's funny when someone endlessly bashes somebody for something then immediatley does the exact opposite.

So much for the dems being the party promoting women. I have never seen the anyone go after a woman like they have here.Obama's camp has made 1 count it 1 negative statement in regards to Palin and 3 count them 3 positive statement welcoming her to the race and telling people to lay off her family. I think you have the press mixed up with the DNC or Obama's campaign.

Logical
09-05-2008, 02:35 PM
Wow there are 11 threads about her just on this page. Anyone who thought she was a bad pick needs to have their head examined.10 Negative threads and 1 positive is not an example of a good pick.

irishjayhawk
09-05-2008, 02:35 PM
Obama's camp has made 1 count it 1 negative statement in regards to Palin and 3 count them 3 positive statement welcoming her to the race and telling people to lay off her family. I think you have the press mixed up with the DNC or Obama's campaign.

Well, did you not notice his first statement?

It clearly says he finds it funny - in a bad way - that somebody bashes somebody for something and then immediately does the exact opposite.

McCain's pick of Palin fits that EXACT criteria.

Logical
09-05-2008, 02:37 PM
No she is being picked on because she was an awesome choice and they need to knock her down a few notches. Dems are pissed that he picked her.

There have been plenty of comments like she shouldn't be trying to be VP when she has 5 kids and should be at home. Isn't this what the femenists have been bitching about forever? It's funny to hear these same women use it now.You do realize almost everyone of those threads were started the day of or days before her speech.

Logical
09-05-2008, 02:43 PM
Give a friggen break the convention just ended a few hours ago. You guys are amazing.
I believe she has already had two campaign stops from what I am seeing on FOX with no questions allowed.

Logical
09-05-2008, 02:45 PM
What financial surplus?
I think he is talking the state which is awash in oil money, not the town where she was Mayor and left a 27 million deficit.

Logical
09-05-2008, 02:49 PM
ROFL

So you see no hypocrisy between McCain's argument about experience and Palin as a selection?



Looks like BD has his head up his ass.Only on Obama in my experience. I have actually had a couple of dinners with Troy and I saw no racists tendencies. I think he really just hates to be wrong and he was convinced that the country was too racist to even make Obama a candidate let alone President and now he like memyselfI is running scared.

WilliamTheIrish
09-05-2008, 02:59 PM
...There have been plenty of comments like she shouldn't be trying to be VP when she has 5 kids and should be at home...

Comments from who? The only person who even remotely promoted the line of thinking your talking about is Howard Stern. And he did it in a rather funny/serious kind of manner.

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 03:34 PM
I think he is talking the state which is awash in oil money, not the town where she was Mayor and left a 27 million deficit.

What defecit did she inherit as mayor?

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 03:36 PM
Only on Obama in my experience. I have actually had a couple of dinners with Troy and I saw no racists tendencies. I think he really just hates to be wrong and he was convinced that the country was too racist to even make Obama a candidate let alone President and now he like memyselfI is running scared.

Hardly running scared, of what being wrong? I've been wrong before. I still think Obama is going to lose.

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 03:43 PM
10 Negative threads and 1 positive is not an example of a good pick.

Here it does.

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 03:44 PM
Comments from who? The only person who even remotely promoted the line of thinking your talking about is Howard Stern. And he did it in a rather funny/serious kind of manner.

talking heads after the announcement on NBC

HolmeZz
09-05-2008, 03:44 PM
What defecit did she inherit as mayor?

"She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million."

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/an-wasillan-on.html

BIG_DADDY
09-05-2008, 03:48 PM
"She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million."

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/an-wasillan-on.html

Interesting, I will read this later I have to fly for now. Thanks for posting the information.

irishjayhawk
09-05-2008, 03:48 PM
Hardly running scared, of what being wrong? I've been wrong before. I still think Obama is going to lose.

So, you see no hypocrisy in the Palin pick and McCain's experience argument?

Logical
09-05-2008, 03:51 PM
"She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million."

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/an-wasillan-on.html


Thanks, you beat me to it.

WilliamTheIrish
09-05-2008, 06:45 PM
The other thing I'd like to bring forth is I remember you saying several years ago - on this board - that McCain needed to just 'die already' ( Or something to that degree) because he backed some gun legislation.

Can you enlighten me on why you think he and Palin would be a good ticket?

irishjayhawk
09-05-2008, 06:49 PM
The other thing I'd like to bring forth is I remember you saying several years ago - on this board - that McCain needed to just 'die already' ( Or something to that degree) because he backed some gun legislation.

Can you enlighten me on why you think he and Palin would be a good ticket?

I'd like him to address his own hypocrisy with respect to Palin's selection, first.

He's avoided it. I think conservatives are scared....:rolleyes: