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HC_Chief
09-01-2008, 06:14 PM
RAMADI, Iraq: Two years ago, Anbar Province was the most lethal place for American forces in Iraq. A U.S. marine or soldier died in the province nearly every day, and the provincial capital, Ramadi, was a moonscape of rubble and ruins. Islamic extremists controlled large pieces of territory, with some so ferocious in their views that they did not even allow the baking of bread.

On Monday, U.S. commanders formally returned responsibility for keeping order in Anbar Province, once the heartland of the Sunni insurgency, to the Iraqi Army and police. The ceremony, including a parade on a freshly paved street, capped one of the most significant turnabouts in the country since the war began five and a half years ago.

Over the past two years, the number of insurgent attacks against Iraqis and Americans has dropped by more than 90 percent. Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia has been severely degraded, if not crushed altogether, in large part because many local Sunnis, including former insurgents, have taken up arms against it.

Since February, as the security situation improved, U.S. commanders have cut the number of marines and soldiers operating in the province by 40 percent.

The transfer of authority codified a situation that Iraqi and American officers say has been in effect since April: The Iraqi Army and police operate independently and retain primary responsibility for battling the insurgency and crime in Anbar. The United States, which had long done the bulk of the fighting, has stepped into a backup role, going into the streets only when accompanied by Iraqi forces.

But the dynamic that has brought such calm to Anbar, welcome as it is, seems fragile. Many former insurgents now man the local police forces, or remain on the U.S. payroll as loosely supervised gunmen working for the so-called Sunni Awakening Councils.

But with most of the Sunni population having abstained from voting in 2005, many are now claiming that the present arrangement leaves them unrepresented. Local Sunni leaders have warned that provincial elections must go forward if violence is to be averted.

Still, as the parade marched along Ramadi's Main Street on Monday, the signs were mostly good. The ceremony was a primarily Iraqi affair, with the U.S. marines wearing neither helmets nor body armor, nor carrying guns. The festive scene became an occasion for celebration by Iraqis and Americans, who at several moments wondered aloud in the sweltering heat how things had gone from so grim to so much better, so fast.

"Not in our wildest dreams could we have imagined this," said Mowaffak al-Rubaie, the Iraqi national security adviser, who flew in from Baghdad. "Two or three years ago, had we suggested that the Iraqis could take responsibility, we would have been ridiculed, we would have been laughed at. This was the cradle of the Sunni insurgency."

Rest of the story here: http://iht.com/articles/2008/09/01/mideast/iraq.php

WilliamTheIrish
09-01-2008, 06:21 PM
Hoooo - ray! Let's hope this marks the beginning of the end. I'll admit I didn't think this would happen so soon.

Good find, HC

Logical
09-01-2008, 06:37 PM
Seems like good news. If it leads to our troops coming home sooner, it is even better news.

banyon
09-01-2008, 07:28 PM
This sounds like great news.

Maybe we can finally start pulling back.

BigOlChiefsfan
09-01-2008, 07:50 PM
This is good news.

Now, let's set up some security in Minneapolis/St. Paul. (http://apnews.myway.com/image/20080901/Republican_Convention__.sff_MNSM108_20080901152136.html?date=20080901&docid=D92U49RO0)

HC_Chief
09-01-2008, 08:30 PM
Good news indeed!

I would love nothing more than to see our troops home by 2010. Ticker-tape parade and all the accolades due to each and every one of them. :thumb:

Petraeus should go down in history as one of our greatest generals. His counter-insurgency strategy has paid HUGE dividends in a very short time frame. Let's just hope Washington does nothing to f*ck up this recent success. We need to end our engagement in Iraq and get Afghanistan back on track.

Logical
09-01-2008, 08:33 PM
Good news indeed!

I would love nothing more than to see our troops home by 2010. Ticker-tape parade and all the accolades due to each and every one of them. :thumb:

Petraeus should go down in history as one of our greatest generals. His counter-insurgency strategy has paid HUGE dividends in a very short time frame. Let's just hope Washington does nothing to f*ck up this recent success. We need to end our engagement in Iraq and get Afghanistan back on track.

:eek: JFC now you have went completely bonkers, you ever heard of the Civil War or WWII?

max sleeper
09-01-2008, 09:00 PM
Seems like good news. If it leads to our troops coming home sooner, it is even better news.

:clap: Yea what he said!!! Let's get out of there b4 we tangle with Iran or even Russia with the weapons/Georgia event. We need to work on the homeland and American pride. Go Chiefs!!!!

J Diddy
09-01-2008, 09:05 PM
:eek: JFC now you have went completely bonkers, you ever heard of the Civil War or WWII?


take it to DC okay

HC_Chief
09-02-2008, 06:58 AM
:eek: JFC now you have went completely bonkers, you ever heard of the Civil War or WWII?

You apparently are unaware of the fact that Petraeus wrote the manual on counterinsurgency. The man implemented the COIN strategy with great effect as a field commander in Mosul, 2003. The place went to shit when he was rolled out. For four years Iraq was a savage bloodbath, that is until idiots in the Pentagon and D.C. finally pulled their collective heads out and put the man who knows the most about counterinsurgency techniques in charge. What we are seeing now is the result. Hopefully, barring stupidity in D.C., this war is over for us within twelve months (if not sooner). You can thank General David Petraeus for this.

The morons at Moveon.org should be ashamed of their "Betrayus" rhetoric. I don't expect that however, as they are too blinded by petty hatred and vitriol for any who dare exclude themselves from their groupthink circlejerk.

Chief Henry
09-02-2008, 03:34 PM
The morons at Moveon.org should be ashamed of their "Betrayus" rhetoric. I don't expect that however, as they are too blinded by petty hatred and vitriol for any who dare exclude themselves from their groupthink circlejerk.


I thought we had lost this war , isn't that what Obama and Harry Reid and Nancy Peolosi have all said in more ways than one ?

Having said that, its truly good news that I wish the MSM would report
more thouroughly.

StcChief
09-02-2008, 08:47 PM
Great news. Winning in Iraq, they are standing up and taking over....

Cannibal
09-02-2008, 08:53 PM
Good news for the short term. But we can be there for another 2000 years holding our proverbial finger in the dam keeping it from leaking. When we leave, things will inevitably be sorted out and it will likely be very, very bloody.