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RINGLEADER
09-13-2008, 11:56 AM
“Now is the time to keep the promise of equal pay for an equal day’s work,” Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said Aug. 28 in his convention acceptance speech. He told the crowd in Denver: “I want my daughters to have exactly the same opportunities as your sons.”

Obama’s campaign Web site is even more specific. Under the heading “Fighting for Pay Equity,” the women’s issues page laments that, “Despite decades of progress, women still make only 77 cents for every dollar a man makes. A recent study estimates it will take another 47 years for women to close the wage gap with men at Fortune 500 corporate offices. Barack Obama believes the government needs to take steps to better enforce the Equal Pay Act.”

Obama’s commitment to federally mandated pay equity stretches from the Rockies to Wall Street and beyond. And yet it seems to have eluded his U.S. Senate office. Compensation figures for his legislative staff reveal that the Illinois senator pays women just 83 cents for every dollar his men make.

A watchdog group called LegiStorm posts on the Internet the salaries for Capitol Hill staffers.

“We have no political affiliations and no political purpose except to make the workings of Congress as transparent as possible,” its Web site explains. Parsing LegiStorm’s official data, gleaned from the secretary of the Senate, offers a fascinating glimpse at pay equity in the World’s Greatest Deliberative Body.

The most recent statistics are for the half-year from Oct. 1, 2007, to March 31, 2008, excluding interns and focusing on full-time personnel.

For someone who worked only until, say, last Feb. 29, extrapolating up to six months’ service simplifies this analysis. Doubling these half-year figures illustrates how a year’s worth of Senate employees’ paychecks should look.

Based on these calculations, Obama’s 28 male staffers divided among themselves total payroll expenditures of $1,523,120. Thus, Obama’s average male employee earned $54,397.

Obama’s 30 female employees split $1,354,580 among themselves, or $45,152, on average.

Why this disparity? One reason may be the under-representation of women in Obama’s highest-compensated ranks. Among Obama’s five best-paid advisers, only one was a woman. Among his top 20, seven were women.

Again, on average, Obama’s female staffers earn just 83 cents for every dollar his male staffers make. This figure certainly exceeds the 77-cent threshold that Obama’s campaign Web site condemns. However, 83 cents do not equal $1. In spite of this 17-cent gap between Obama’s rhetoric and reality, he chose to chide GOP presidential contender John McCain on this issue.

Obama responded Aug. 31 to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s Republican vice-presidential nomination. Palin “seems like a very engaging person,” Obama told voters in Toledo, Ohio. “But I’ve got to say, she’s opposed - like John McCain is - to equal pay for equal work. That doesn’t make much sense to me.”

Obama’s criticism notwithstanding, McCain’s payment patterns are the stuff of feminist dreams.

McCain’s 17 male staffers split $916,914, thus averaging $53,936. His 25 female employees divided $1,396,958 and averaged $55,878.

On average, according to these data, women in McCain’s office make $1.04 for every dollar a man makes. In fact, all other things being equal, a typical female staffer could earn 21 cents more per dollar paid to her male counterpart - while adding $10,726 to her annual income - by leaving Obama’s office and going to work for McCain.

How could this be?

One explanation could be that women compose a majority of McCain’s highest-paid aides. Among his top-five best-compensated staffers, three are women. Of his 20-highest-salaried employees, 13 are women. The Republican presidential nominee relies on women - much more than men - for advice at the highest, and thus, best-paid levels.

If anyone on McCain’s Senate staff is unhappy, McCain’s male staffers might complain that they seem to get a slightly raw deal.

In short, these statistics suggest that McCain is more than fair with his female employees, while Obama - at the expense of the women who work for him - quietly perpetuates the very same pay-equity divide that he loudly denounces.

Of all people, the Democratic standard bearer should understand that equal pay begins at home.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1118682&srvc=home&position=rated

Mr. Flopnuts
09-13-2008, 12:23 PM
No takers on this one huh?

ChiefaRoo
09-13-2008, 12:34 PM
No takers on this one huh?

Facts are a stubborn thing. There's nothing left to say except I'll defend Barry on this. I doubt he's trying to pay women less but like the public sector there are less women with these skills than men simply because they have the biological requirement to create and care newborns which means they go in an out of the work force from time to time and it creates holes in their skill sets for many.

***SPRAYER
09-13-2008, 12:37 PM
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Obama’s campaign Web site is even more specific. Under the heading “Fighting for Pay Equity,” the women’s issues page laments that, “Despite decades of progress, women still make only 77 cents for every dollar a man makes. A recent study estimates it will take another 47 years for women to close the wage gap with men at Fortune 500 corporate offices. Barack Obama believes the government needs to take steps to better enforce the Equal Pay Act.”

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Those stats are absolute BS. They don't account for hours per week worked or specifics of employment.

It's the same nonsense that Black PHD's make less than White PHD's.

They always forget to mention that the majority of Black PHD's are in Religion and the majority of White PHD's are in Medicine.

Of course they will have different incomes.

HolmeZz
09-13-2008, 01:34 PM
I see a lot of new Obama threads(which are actually just reposts of old Obama threads). Does this mean you guys are scared?

PRIEST
09-13-2008, 01:40 PM
I see a lot of new Obama threads(which are actually just reposts of old Obama threads). Does this mean you guys are scared?







ROFL

BucEyedPea
09-13-2008, 01:40 PM
Facts are a stubborn thing. There's nothing left to say except I'll defend Barry on this. I doubt he's trying to pay women less but like the public sector there are less women with these skills than men simply because they have the biological requirement to create and care newborns which means they go in an out of the work force from time to time and it creates holes in their skill sets for many.

And/or Concerned Women for America is a huge group involved in politics compared to the size of NOW. So more women involved here that have the skills.

ChiefaRoo
09-13-2008, 01:55 PM
And/or Concerned Women for America is a huge group involved in politics compared to the size of NOW. So more women involved here that have the skills.


I see.

memyselfI
09-13-2008, 04:39 PM
OOOOPs.

jAZ
09-13-2008, 04:43 PM
What a garbage hit piece from Fox News' very own garbage paper the Boston Herald.

"Equal pay for equal work" doesn't have anything to do with "equal representation of gender at each role of management".

The only comparison that's in anyway meaningful to their purpose (ie, to attack Obama for his "equal pay for equal work" position) would be if there is some outrageous pay disparity between the men and women within each role within the campaign.

And more specifically does his employment practice fit inside his propsed model of evaluation.

None of that has anything to do with the obvious trash analysis posted in this article.

Averaging a wide range of roles in an office together? That's not "equal work". How stupid.

jAZ
09-13-2008, 04:46 PM
This is the RINGLEADER of old. Posting garbage information cynically playing on the ignorance or blinders of certain voters.

noa
09-13-2008, 04:48 PM
I thought they idea was equal pay for equal work, not equal pay for different work.

Mr. Flopnuts
09-13-2008, 04:54 PM
These are the kinds of issues that are going to help me decide whether I'm voting for the minority and the old white guy, or the old white guy and the minority.

vailpass
09-13-2008, 04:56 PM
Where da white women at?! (is this the right thread?)

Mr. Flopnuts
09-13-2008, 04:57 PM
Where da white women at?! (is this the right thread?)

You ready to make it rain yo?

Logical
09-13-2008, 05:03 PM
No takers on this one huh?
Don't know seems junior staff would make less than senior staff. That is not an equal pay for equal pay issue. It might show he does not hire enough females as senior staff.

ChiefaRoo
09-13-2008, 05:14 PM
What a garbage hit piece from Fox News' very own garbage paper the Boston Herald.

"Equal pay for equal work" doesn't have anything to do with "equal representation of gender at each role of management".

The only comparison that's in anyway meaningful to their purpose (ie, to attack Obama for his "equal pay for equal work" position) would be if there is some outrageous pay disparity between the men and women within each role within the campaign.

And more specifically does his employment practice fit inside his propsed model of evaluation.

None of that has anything to do with the obvious trash analysis posted in this article.

Averaging a wide range of roles in an office together? That's not "equal work". How stupid.


You're right that's affirmative action and Barry is all for that too. LMAO, oh Jiz

splatbass
09-13-2008, 10:15 PM
You can't lump all pay levels together and get a meaningful result. If they would compare junior level men with junior level women, and senior level men with senior level women it would tell us something.

This is just another example of misusing statistics. Like the saying goes, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

beer bacon
09-13-2008, 10:42 PM
The head of my department makes more than me. Where do I file my complaint?