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bkkcoh
09-13-2008, 08:47 PM
Here are the top 10 reasons not to vote for Obama or the Democrats:

1. The democrats currently control congress, which has a 9% approval rating. If a democrat gets elected president then the lowest rated congress in American history will receive full control of Washington.

2. Obama only had 143 days of senate experience before announcing that he is running for president. During that time, he voted “present” 130 times because he could not decide if he wanted to vote “YES” or “NO” on the issues.

3. Obama has never governed anything, never operated a business, never had any military experience, and never made an executive decision. In 2007 Obama claimed that he would not run for president because he was not qualified enough for the job. Before being selected as Obama’s running mate, Joe Biden also said that Obama was not qualified to be president and that the country would be better off if McCain were president. Hillary Clinton also stated that John McCain is more qualified to be president than Obama.

4. Rather than drilling for oil, Obama’s solution to bring down gas prices is to keep your tires inflated and to get a tune-up.

5. The sum of Obama’s tax proposals will add up to the largest tax increase in American history.

6. Obama feels that Americans should learn Spanish so that the illegal immigrants will feel more comfortable in our country.

7. Obama attended Reverent Wright’s church for over 20 years. It is a church that believes in black liberation theology. Black liberation theology supports the idea that all white people should have to pay money to African Americans to compensate for slavery. That same church gave an award to Louis Farrakhan as their “person of the year”. Obama also participated in Farrakhan’s “million man march.”

8. Obama is friends with a man named William Ayers. Ayers formed the group known as “the weather underground”, which committed several terrorist attacks, including an attempt to bomb the US capitol building. Despite being aware of this information, Obama decided to serve on a board with Ayers and also began his political career at Ayer’s home. Ayers recently said that he does not regret the terrorist attacks and wishes that he could have done more. But Obama says that he is still friends with Ayers.

9. Iran president Ahmadinejad wants to “wipe Israel off the map”. But Obama said that Iran is too tiny to pose any threat. After Obama’s 300 foreign advisors explained the situation to him, Obama quickly changed his mind about the danger that Iran poses. But Obama still thinks that it is a good idea to sit down and negotiate with Ahmadinejad and other leaders of terrorist countries.

10. When Obama was overseas, he was scheduled to visit the wounded troops, but he canceled his visit to the hospital when he found out that there would be no cameras or media there to film it. Instead, he decided to spend the rest of the day working out.

ROYC75
09-13-2008, 08:50 PM
Some good points, but most of these have already been debated......... Old News.

RJ
09-13-2008, 08:53 PM
Ok, you win, I changed my mind.

DAMMIT!!!!

Logical
09-13-2008, 08:57 PM
Boy that did it I am convinced (to vote for Obama). I swear the more this BS shit is repeated the more likely I am to vote for him and encourage others to do the same.

By the way

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banyon
09-13-2008, 09:06 PM
This is a pretty good collection of the main distortions being repeated ad nauseum so that they hope people won't investigate further and think that they are true.

Sadly, people probably won't.

So, did you collect these yourself, or were they forwarded in an e-mail?

Fish
09-13-2008, 09:07 PM
Top 10 enormously exaggerated mis truths that Republicans receive in chain e-mails

ROYC75
09-13-2008, 09:10 PM
This is a pretty good collection of the main distortions being repeated ad nauseum so that they hope people won't investigate further and think that they are true.

Sadly, people probably won't.

So, did you collect these yourself, or were they forwarded in an e-mail?

I agree, we have moved past these, they have already either done
damage or not by now....... Some of them are just stupid is some ways.

I don't know why he didn't rehash these ?

10 Concerns about Barack Hussein Obama

1. Barack Obama’s foreign policy is dangerous, naïve, and betrays a profound misreading of history. For at least the past five years, Democrats and liberals have said our standing in the international community has suffered from a “cowboy” or “go-it-alone” foreign policy. While politicians with favorable views of our president have been elected in Germany, Italy, France, and elsewhere, Barack Obama is giving cause to make our allies even more nervous. This past Sunday’s Washington Post reported, “European officials are increasingly concerned that Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign pledge to begin direct talks with Iran on its nuclear program without preconditions could potentially rupture U.S. relations with key European allies early in a potential Obama administration.”
Barack Obama’s stance toward Iran is as troubling as it is dangerous. By stating and maintaining that he would negotiate with Iran, “without preconditions,” and within his first year of office, he will give credibility to, and reward for his intransigence, the head of state of the world’s chief sponsor of terrorism.
Such a meeting will also undermine and send the exact wrong signal to Iranian dissidents. And, he will lower the prestige of the office of the president: In his own words he stated, “If we think that meeting with the president is a privilege that has to be earned, I think that reinforces the sense that we stand above the rest of the world at this point in time.” Not only has his stance toward Iran caused concern among our allies in Europe, U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton called it, “Irresponsible and frankly naïve.”

Barack Obama’s position on negotiating with U.S. enemies betrays a profound misreading of history. In justifying his position that he would meet with Iran without precondition and in his first year of office, Barack Obama has said, “That is what Kennedy did with Khrushchev; that’s what Nixon did with Mao; what Reagan did with Gorbachev.”
In reverse order, Ronald Reagan met with no Soviet leader during the entirety of his first term in office, not (ever) with Brezhnev, not (ever) with Andropov, not (ever) with Chernenko. He met only with Gorbachev, and after he was assured Gorbachev was a different kind of Soviet leader — and after Perestroika, not before.
If Barack Obama wants to affiliate with Richard Nixon, that’s certainly his call. But one question: Was Taiwan’s expulsion from the U.N. worth “Nixon to China”? That was the price of that meeting.
As for the Kennedy-Khrushchev summit of 1961, Kennedy himself said “He beat the hell out of me.” As two experts recently wrote in the New York Times: “Paul Nitze, the assistant secretary of defense, said the meeting was ‘just a disaster.’ Khrushchev’s aide, after the first day, said the American president seemed ‘very inexperienced, even immature.’ Khrushchev agreed, noting that the youthful Kennedy was ‘too intelligent and too weak.’ The Soviet leader left Vienna elated — and with a very low opinion of the leader of the free world.” So successful was the summit that the Berlin Wall was erected later that year and the Cuban Missile Crisis, with Soviets deploying nuclear missiles in Cuba, commenced the following year.

2. Barack Obama’s Iraq policy will hand al-Qaeda a victory and undercut our entire position in the Middle East, while at the same time put a huge source of oil in the hands of terrorists. Barack Obama brags on his website that “In January 2007, he introduced legislation in the Senate to remove all of our combat troops from Iraq by March 2008.” His website further states that “Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of
our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months.” This, at the very time our greatest successes in Iraq have taken place. And yet, as Gen. David Petraeus has stated (along with other military experts from Michael O’Hanlon at the Brookings Institution to members of the U.S. military), our progress in Iraq is “fragile and reversible.”
Obama’s post-invasion analysis of Iraq is anything but credible or consistent, leading one to even greater doubt about his strategy as commander-in-chief. When President Bush announced the surge strategy in January 2007, Barack Obama opposed it, saying it “would not prove to be one that changes the dynamics significantly,” and that “the President’s strategy will not work.” Of course, the surge is one of the greatest achievements in Iraq since the initial months of the invasion, and is has reversed much of the loss suffered
since the invasion. Beyond these miscalculations and poor judgment on Iraq strategy, Obama has been anything but consistent on Iraq. For example, the same year (2007) he stated it would be a good idea to bring home the U.S. troops from Iraq within March of 2008, three months later he stated, we should bring them home “immediately…. Not in six months or one year — now.”

3. Barack Obama has sent mixed, confusing, and inconsistent messages on his policy toward Israel.Earlier this month, Barack Obama told an audience at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, “Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided.” The next day, Obama backtracked, stating: “Obviously, it’s [Jerusalem] going to be up to the parties to negotiate a range of these issues…And Jerusalem will be part of the negotiations.” Later, Obama’s Middle East adviser tried to
explain the flipping of positions on Jerusalem by stating Obama did not understand what he was saying to AIPAC: “[h]e used a word to represent what he did not want to see again, and then realized afterwards that that word is a code word in the Middle East.”
Such quick switches of policy may stem from mere inexperience or they may stem from a general
tone-deafness on the meaning of words and policy when it comes to the Middle East. After all, earlier this year, a leading Hamas official endorsed Barack Obama stating, “I do believe [Obama] is like John
Kennedy, a great man with a great principle. And he has a vision to change America to make it in a position to lead the world community, but not with humiliation and arrogance.” Rather than immediately renouncing such an endorsement, Obama’s chief political strategist, David Axelrod, embraced the endorsement, saying “We all agree that John Kennedy was a great president, and it’s flattering when anybody says that Barack Obama would follow in his footsteps.” Given Barack Obama’s long-standing ties to Palestinian activists in the U.S., one has good cause to wonder.

4. While his Mideast policy may have been the quickest turnaround or flip-flop on a major issue, it is not the only one. In the primary campaign, Barack Obama consistently campaigned against NAFTA, but has now changed his tune, as he has with other issues. During the primary, Obama sent out a campaign flier that said “Only Barack Obama consistently opposed NAFTA,” and called it a “bad trade deal.” He also said NAFTA was “devastating,” “a big mistake,” and in what the Washington Post labeled as a unilateral threat to withdraw from NAFTA, Obama said “I think we should use the hammer of a potential opt-out as leverage.” No longer. Recently, Barack Obama backtracked on NAFTA and said, “I’m not a big believer in doing things unilaterally.” “I’m a big believer in opening up a dialogue and figuring out how we can make this work for all people.” He explained his primary campaign opposition this way: “Sometimes during campaigns the rhetoric gets overheated and amplified.” This is of a piece with his further change of position on public campaign financing. As a primary candidate, he touted his support for the public financing of presidential campaigns, but then witnessing his own fundraising prowess, as a general election candidate he has gone the unique route of forswearing the system. As David Brooks put it in the New York Times:Barack Obama has worked on political reform more than any other issue. He aspires to be to political reform what Bono is to fighting disease in Africa. He’s spent much of his career talking about how much he believes in public financing. In January 2007, he told Larry King that the public-financing system works. In February 2007, he challenged Republicans to limit their spending and vowed to do so along with them if he were the nominee. In February 2008, he said he would aggressively pursue spending limits. He answered a Midwest Democracy Network questionnaire by reminding everyone that he has been a longtime advocate of the public-financing system. But Thursday, at the first breath of political inconvenience, Fast Eddie Obama threw public financing under the truck.

5. Barack Obama’s judgment about personal and professional affiliations is more than troubling. On March 18, after several clips of sermons by his longtime friend and pastor Jeremiah Wright surfaced
(showing Wright condemning the United States with vitriolic comparisons and denunciations), Obama defended his friend stating: “I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother.” After Rev. Wright delivered two more talks along the same lines as the clips that led to the March 18 speech, Sen. Obama finally denounced Wright the following month, stating: “His comments were not only divisive and destructive, but I believe that they end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate, and I believe that they do not portray accurately the perspective of the black church.” “They certainly don’t portray accurately my values and beliefs,” he said. It strained credulity to believe Obama was unaware of Wright’s previous rants — especially after a 20-year membership in Wright’s church, especially when in February of last year Obama asked Wright not to attend his campaign announcement because he “could get kind of rough in sermons,” and especially when his church’s magazine honored on its front cover such a man as Louis Farrakhan. Nonetheless, once he ceased being a political asset and turned into a political liability, Obama dumped him. Jeremiah Wright is, of course, not the only person close to Barack Obama who holds vitriolic anti-American views. Bill Ayers was a founding member of the Weather Underground. According to his own memoir, Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, the Pentagon in 1972. As recently as 2001, Ayers said “I don’t regret setting bombs….I feel we didn’t do enough.’’ When asked if he would engage in such terrorism again, Ayers responded: “I don’t want to discount the possibility.” When confronted with his friendship with Bill Ayers,
Barack Obama dismissed the negative connections saying he is also friendly with abortion opponent U.S. Senator Tom Coburn. While Obama has never, himself, discussed his relationship with Ayers, what we do know is that Ayers hosted a fundraiser for Obama in his home and, according to the Los Angeles Times:Obama and Ayers moved in some of the same political and social circles in the leafy liberal enclave of Hyde Park, where they lived several blocks apart. In the mid-1990s, when Obama was running for the Illinois Senate, Ayers introduced Obama during a political event at his home, according to Obama’s aides…. Obama and Ayers met a dozen times as members of the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, a local grant-making foundation, according to the group’s president. They appeared together to discuss juvenile justice on a 1997 panel sponsored by the University of Chicago, records show. They appeared again in 2002 at an academic panel co-sponsored by the Chicago Public Library.

6. Obama is simply out of step with how terrorists should be handled; he would turn back the clock on how we fight terrorism, using the failed strategy of the 1990s as opposed to the post-9/11 strategy that has kept us safe. The most recent example is his support for the Supreme Court decision granting habeas-corpus rights to terrorists, including — theoretically — Osama bin Laden. When the 5-4 Supreme Court decision was delivered, Obama said, “I think the Supreme Court was right.” His campaign advisers held a conference call where they claimed the Supreme Court decision was “no big deal” according to ABC News, even if applied to Osama bin Laden, because a judge would find that the U.S. has “ample grounds to hold him.” In a recent interview, Obama stated: “What we know is that, in previous terrorist attacks — for example, the first attack against the World Trade Center, we were able to arrest those responsible, put them on trial. They are currently in U.S. prisons, incapacitated. And the fact that the administration has not tried to do that has created a situation where not only have we never actually put many of these folks on trial, but we have destroyed our credibility when it comes to rule of law all around the world, and given a huge boost to terrorist recruitment in countries that say, ‘Look, this is how the United States treats Muslims.’' Ask the legal officials during the 1990s just how cowed terrorists were by our continued indictments against them. Or, witness the bombings at the African embassies, the attack on the USS Cole, or the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001. Now, ask yourself why we have not been attacked since 9/11, and, even more specifically, why there have been no successful attacks against American civilian interests abroad since 2004.

7. Barack Obama’s economic policies would hurt the economy. As Kimberly Strassel recently put it in the Wall Street Journal: “Mr. Obama is hawking a tax policy that would take the nation back to the effective marginal tax rates of the Carter days. He wants to further tax income, payroll, capital gains, dividends and death. His philosophy is pure redistribution.” When Barack Obama speaks of taxing only the wealthy, keep in mind this could have a devastating effect on new small businesses. As Irwin Stelzer has written: “Taxes change behavior. By raising rates on upper income payers, Obama is reducing their incentive to work and take risks. The income tax increase is not all that he has in mind for them. He plans to increase their payroll taxes, the taxes they pay on dividends received and capital gains earned, and on any transfers they might have in mind to their kith and kin when they shuffle off this mortal coil. If the aggregate of these additional taxes substantially diminishes incentives to set up a small business of the sort that has created most of the new jobs in recent decades, the $1,000 tax rebate will be more than offset by the consequences of reduced growth and new business formation.”

8. Barack Obama opposes drilling on and offshore to reduce gas and oil prices. While Barack Obama has opposed off-shore drilling and a gas-tax holiday (as supported by John McCain or Hillary Clinton), his
solution to our energy crisis does include additional tax burdens on oil company profits, taxes we can only imagine will be passed on to the consumer, thus causing an even more expensive trip to the gas station. As the New York Times recently detailed, ethanol subsidies are a major plank in Barack Obama’s view of energy independence and national security; the “Obama Camp is Closely Linked with ethanol,” and “Mr. Obama…favors [ethanol] subsidies, some of which end up in the hands of the same oil companies he says should be subjected to a windfall profits tax.”

9. Barack Obama is to the left of Hillary Clinton and NARAL on the issue of life. As a state senator in Illinois, Barack Obama voted against the Induced Infant Liability Act, a law that would have protected babies if they survived an attempted abortion and were delivered alive. When a similar bill was proposed in the United States Senate, it passed unanimously and even the National Abortion Rights Action League issued a statement saying they did not oppose the law.

10. Barack Obama is actually to the left of every member of the U.S. Senate. According to the National Journal, “Sen. Barack Obama…was the most liberal senator in 2007.” As the magazine reported: “The
ratings system — devised in 1981 under the direction of William Schneider, a political analyst and commentator, and a contributing editor to National Journal — also assigns ‘composite’ scores, an average of the members’ issue-based scores. In 2007, Obama’s composite liberal score of 95.5 was the highest in the Senate. Rounding out the top five most liberal senators last year were Sens. Sheldon Whitehouse (D., R.I.), with a composite liberal score of 94.3; Joseph Biden (D., Del.), with a 94.2; Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.),
with a 93.7; and Robert Menendez (D., N.J.), with a 92.8.”

Whom will a man this far left appoint to the Supreme Court?

irishjayhawk
09-13-2008, 09:12 PM
Could that be more unreadable, Roy?

Actually, don't answer that. I fear the answer may (in)directly answer it.

bkkcoh
09-13-2008, 09:13 PM
This is a pretty good collection of the main distortions being repeated ad nauseum so that they hope people won't investigate further and think that they are true.

Sadly, people probably won't.

So, did you collect these yourself, or were they forwarded in an e-mail?

Actually neither. But are you willing to admit that the same thing can be said about McCain and Palin? At least admit that both sides are full of BS at times.

I heard Obama say himself that [b]everyone will be paying less in taxes then they did in the 1990's. To me that means that there will be a tax increase for everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Doesn't it sound like that?

irishjayhawk
09-13-2008, 09:15 PM
Actually neither. But are you willing to admit that the same thing can be said about McCain and Palin? At least admit that both sides are full of BS at times.

I heard Obama say himself that [b]everyone will be paying less in taxes then they did in the 1990's. To me that means that there will be a tax increase for everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Doesn't it sound like that?

:spock:

banyon
09-13-2008, 09:23 PM
Actually neither. But are you willing to admit that the same thing can be said about McCain and Palin? At least admit that both sides are full of BS at times.

I heard Obama say himself that [b]everyone will be paying less in taxes then they did in the 1990's. To me that means that there will be a tax increase for everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Doesn't it sound like that?

I would say that people on the left, especially in this forum are usually interested in confirming things before they start repeating them. The Palin's baby thing is really a pretty good example. Everyone wondered what the real story was, but no one assumed that it was really true.

I don't know what other false rumors people are spreading here about McCain or Palin. I posted a thread about her town policy on Rape kits yesterday, but it's all documented fact. Maybe you could point out what's false and being spread about McCain and Palin? Maybe I'm too biased at this point and I didn't notice it happening.

And you say that this list isn't yours and it isn't from an email, so where did it come from?

ROYC75
09-13-2008, 09:31 PM
Could that be more unreadable, Roy?

Actually, don't answer that. I fear the answer may (in)directly answer it.


Over your head ? That stuff was circulated earlier in the campaign, you just now seeing it ?

Face it, I didn't type it, copy and paste. It is what it is.........Not from me, just passed along, as I suspected the earlier post of 10 reasons.

penchief
09-13-2008, 10:24 PM
God, I hope Obama wins just so that the republican party has to rethink how they conduct campaigns. Every four years I think that it can't get any worse and hope that we may finally get beyond all the distortions and bullshit lies. But it just keeps getting worse. As long as they keep winning by running from the gutter it's never going to get better.

Please Lord, let Obama win so that we can leave this gargage behind.

HolmeZz
09-13-2008, 10:29 PM
I used to think you were a poster that brought a little more to the table, bkkcoh. Don't know how I ever got that idea.

irishjayhawk
09-13-2008, 11:08 PM
Over your head ? That stuff was circulated earlier in the campaign, you just now seeing it ?

Face it, I didn't type it, copy and paste. It is what it is.........Not from me, just passed along, as I suspected the earlier post of 10 reasons.

ROFL

Perhaps you were fixing the abysmal spacing and line breaks in your copy and paste job.

Maybe that's why you didn't get my response.

Logical
09-14-2008, 01:59 AM
I used to think you were a poster that brought a little more to the table, bkkcoh. Don't know how I ever got that idea.I think it is because for all the talk of Democrat/Liberals reaching the point of desperation, we are seeing just the opposite. Good solid posters in the past resorting to shoddy email type postings.

DaneMcCloud
09-14-2008, 02:09 AM
I'm voting for Obama to negate RecxFake's vote.

Whether it matters or not.

|Zach|
09-14-2008, 02:37 AM
Actually neither.

Go on...

BucEyedPea
09-14-2008, 05:42 AM
A President Needs Good Judgement Rather Than Experience (http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=2311)

McCain has bad judgement.

But pundits always refer to experience as if it were an end in itself. The assumption seems to be that experience improves future judgment when crisis arises. But what if you don’t learn much from your experiences or learn the wrong things?

Richard Nixon was one of the most experienced people ever to take the office of president—having served in the Senate and eight years as vice president—yet he made a thorough mess of things domestically and had a mixed record in foreign policy. Similarly, James Buchanan had been a U.S. congressman and senator, minister (ambassador) to Russia and Great Britain, and secretary of state before becoming chief executive, but his poor policies as president helped cause the bloody Civil War. On the other hand, Chester Arthur only held two mid-level jobs in New York and was vice president for a mere six months before taking over for James Garfield after he was assassinated in 1881. Yet Arthur was a good president. The only reason he is not better known is because he was not president during a war (a good thing if you stop and think about it) and did not exude charisma (although he was a snappy dresser).

In John McCain’s case, it can be argued that he hasn’t learned much from serving in Vietnam, which turned out to be one of the worst interventionist debacles in American history. Unlike others who have been made skeptical of U.S. adventurism overseas by their service in Vietnam—former Secretary of State and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Colin Powell, Senator Chuck Hagel (R-Nebraska), Senator John Kerry (D-Massachusetts), and the late Lt. Gen. William Odom, director of President Ronald Reagan’s National Security Agency—McCain revels in being a neoconservative hawk. Phillip Butler, a former naval aviator who knew McCain well while at the Naval Academy and who was a prisoner of war in Vietnam for eight years, respects McCain but is going to vote for Obama, because he thinks McCain learned the wrong lessons from that war.

BucEyedPea
09-14-2008, 05:46 AM
Obama says we should learn Spanish but Juan McCain has Juan Hernandez on his staff and is just as pro-illegal immigration as Obama. Sorry, this issue is a wash between the major candidates.

J Diddy
09-14-2008, 06:25 AM
Obama says we should learn Spanish but Juan McCain has Juan Hernandez on his staff and is just as pro-illegal immigration as Obama. Sorry, this issue is a wash between the major candidates.

One of my sticking points....
I think if you enter illegally you should be forced to go home.

Also in the case of Donger, I think we should just make him go to Mexico.:D

banyon
09-15-2008, 02:20 PM
I don't know what other false rumors people are spreading here about McCain or Palin. I posted a thread about her town policy on Rape kits yesterday, but it's all documented fact. Maybe you could point out what's false and being spread about McCain and Palin? Maybe I'm too biased at this point and I didn't notice it happening.


Any answers here by anybody?

Amnorix
09-15-2008, 02:33 PM
Here are the top 10 reasons not to vote for Obama or the Democrats:

2. Obama only had 143 days of senate experience before announcing that he is running for president.

3. In 2007 Obama claimed that he would not run for president because he was not qualified enough for the job.


Not that most of these aren't retarded, but I note that the two above are mutually exclusive. i.e. it's impossible for both of the above to be true. To say that this puts many of the others in doubt as to their accuracy would be a serious understatement.

BIG_DADDY
09-15-2008, 02:34 PM
I think it is because for all the talk of Democrat/Liberals reaching the point of desperation, we are seeing just the opposite. Good solid posters in the past resorting to shoddy email type postings.

It's a lot more comfortable going after the poster instead the post. Way to go Jim!!!

StcChief
09-15-2008, 02:38 PM
I believe the debates will convince the undecided this board is decided already.

no amount of posting will change anything.

J Diddy
09-15-2008, 02:40 PM
I believe the debates will convince the undecided this board is decided already.

no amount of posting will change anything.


QFT

Logical
09-15-2008, 02:42 PM
It's a lot more comfortable going after the poster instead the post. Way to go Jim!!!I don't see that I attacked bkkcoh at all.

J Diddy
09-15-2008, 02:43 PM
I don't see that I attacked bkkcoh at all.
nah, he was just showing you his tactics, that's all

BIG_DADDY
09-15-2008, 02:58 PM
I don't see that I attacked bkkcoh at all.

Other than calling him deperate and shoddy and totally avoiding the thread I suppose you are right. :rolleyes:

BucEyedPea
09-15-2008, 03:41 PM
Boy that did it I am convinced (to vote for Obama). I swear the more this BS shit is repeated the more likely I am to vote for him and encourage others to do the same.

By the way

POW POW POW POWPOW POW POW POW POW POW POW POWPOW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POWPOW POW POW POW POW POW

That's the effect it creates on me.

Judgement is more important than experience. Obama has better judgement on FP. But only slightly. It bothers me his stand on Georgia being in NATO.