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Frankie
09-14-2008, 03:12 PM
Done by the over-use of two years ago followed by the big contract of last year. He is a fat cat who has no heart and does the very minimum of what he is supposed to do. The 1st rounder that we would have gotten from Dallas would have filled another hole. But Carl had to prove that HIS personal pick (over the wishes of his HC) was smart!:shake:

blueballs
09-14-2008, 03:14 PM
You gave up before he did
be honest

Mecca
09-14-2008, 03:15 PM
Hindsight is 20/20 if you were in favor of resigning him when they did you really can't bitch cause that means you'd have done the same thing.

KevB
09-14-2008, 03:17 PM
The blame is shared. The O-Line isn't good, and the defense doesn't have to worry about stopping a passing game.

Frankie
09-14-2008, 03:20 PM
Hindsight is 20/20 if you were in favor of resigning him when they did you really can't bitch cause that means you'd have done the same thing.

WRONG YOU ARE. I was very vocal here about the need to trade him off. I even argued that his shortcomings were not evident to the rest of the NFL yet and we should dump him on another sucker. Would have been that much sweeter also that the said sucker was Dallas.

The Bad Guy
09-14-2008, 03:21 PM
I think it's a lot more playcalling/offensive line than it is Larry Johnson.

Lonewolf Ed
09-14-2008, 03:22 PM
And did you all see how lost Larry looked when the linebacker blazed past him and sacked Huard? That was the hit that led to Huard leaving the game, was it not? Pitiful, just pitiful. It seems to me that Larry just can't grasp the concept of blocking.

L.A. Chieffan
09-14-2008, 03:22 PM
Rebuilding. Get over it.

bigdaddychieffan
09-14-2008, 03:22 PM
Larry didn't run with heart last year, and this year it is more of the same. I am for benching him and going with Kolby Smith as the starter with Charles being the back up. If Larry doesn't want to play then bench him.

Frankie
09-14-2008, 03:26 PM
And did you all see how lost Larry looked when the linebacker blazed past him and sacked Huard? That was the hit that led to Huard leaving the game, was it not? Pitiful, just pitiful. It seems to me that Larry just can't grasp the concept of blocking.

You posted this before I did. Exactly right. I even went back on the DVR and looked at it a couple of times. Larry had no intention of truly blocking the guy.

DT58HOF
09-14-2008, 03:27 PM
Larry Johnson should of been traded a long time ago.

Frankie
09-14-2008, 03:28 PM
Larry didn't run with heart last year, and this year it is more of the same. I am for benching him and going with Kolby Smith as the starter with Charles being the back up. If Larry doesn't want to play then bench him.

Yep. But Carl's ego is more important to this organization.

JuicesFlowing
09-14-2008, 03:30 PM
OUR O-LINE IS AWESOME.

JuicesFlowing
09-14-2008, 03:31 PM
WRONG YOU ARE. I was very vocal here about the need to trade him off. I even argued that his shortcomings were not evident to the rest of the NFL yet and we should dump him on another sucker. Would have been that much sweeter also that the said sucker was Dallas.

I wonder if you felt this way when we was gaining 1,700 yards and 20 TDs per year. Just curious.

the Talking Can
09-14-2008, 03:32 PM
lj is a selfish pussy who won't block

trade or bench him....he is worthless to us

JuicesFlowing
09-14-2008, 03:32 PM
Done by the over-use of two years ago followed by the big contract of last year. He is a fat cat who has no heart and does the very minimum of his what he is supposed to do. The 1st rounder that we would have gotten from Dallas would have filled another hole. But Carl had to prove that HIS personal pick (over the wishes of his HC) was smart!:shake:

Wow, "thanks Carl?" Thanks for drafting a great RB to take over for Priest? Jesus Christ you need to wake up ...

GoHuge
09-14-2008, 03:33 PM
Larry Johnson should of been traded a long time ago.I think it's been proven that runing backs with high miles aren't worth shit on the trading block. Shaun Alexander can't even find a job after his break out season two years ago.

harpes
09-14-2008, 03:33 PM
LJ is a thug and thats it. He doesnt want to be a chief and doesnt appear to even care about his team mates.

OnTheWarpath58
09-14-2008, 03:35 PM
LJ got his money, and has lost his heart.

It's obvious to anyone who watches with an objective eye.

He used to be the agressor, and now he's cowering to ****ing cornerbacks.

He did it again today. He cut back inside on a run, gained nothing, instead of running over a CB and picking up another 10 yards.

Frankie
09-14-2008, 03:35 PM
I wonder if you felt this way when we was gaining 1,700 yards and 20 TDs per year. Just curious.

I was excited, yes. But still bothered by the fact that he was not a good blocker or a good receiver out of the backfield. To answer your question I was never a big fan of LJ the way I was a fan of Priest.

Frankie
09-14-2008, 03:37 PM
Wow, "thanks Carl?" Thanks for drafting a great RB to take over for Priest? Jesus Christ you need to wake up ...

Has he really taken over for Priest? Did you type that with a straight face?

JuicesFlowing
09-14-2008, 03:38 PM
Apparently, Chiefs fans are only LJ fans when he scores. Everyone turns on him despite the outcome ... awesome. Thigpen played awesome!!! (or not?)

DaneMcCloud
09-14-2008, 03:39 PM
This is ****ing dumb.

The right side of the offensive line is ****ing awful. Until that's fixed (2009 offseason), none of the running backs will do shit in the running game.

It's called rebuilding.

Get over it.

JuicesFlowing
09-14-2008, 03:39 PM
LJ is a thug and thats it. He doesnt want to be a chief and doesnt appear to even care about his team mates.

If he didn't want to be a Chief, then why did he sign his contract?

JuicesFlowing
09-14-2008, 03:39 PM
This is ****ing dumb.

The right side of the offensive line is ****ing awful. Until that's fixed (2009 offseason), none of the running backs will do shit in the running game.

It's called rebuilding.

Get over it.

I'm glad one person gets it.

OnTheWarpath58
09-14-2008, 03:40 PM
If he didn't want to be a Chief, then why did he sign his contract?

I can think of 19 million reasons...

Frankie
09-14-2008, 03:41 PM
I think it's been proven that runing backs with high miles aren't worth shit on the trading block. Shaun Alexander can't even find a job after his break out season two years ago.

Not now, LJ isn't worth crap. Last year there was an NFL-wide rumor that Dallas was prepared to give us one of their 1sts + an established RB whose name escapes me now. Rumor of course, but such rumors usually come true when other teams are involved. The said RB, btw, had a better season than LJ last year.

OnTheWarpath58
09-14-2008, 03:41 PM
This is ****ing dumb.

The right side of the offensive line is ****ing awful. Until that's fixed (2009 offseason), none of the running backs will do shit in the running game.

It's called rebuilding.

Get over it.

He didn't do dick behind the left side either, Dane.

He's a different runner than 2005. It's PAINFULLY obvious. He's dancing, he's tentative - and when he does get in the open, he nancies his way OOB.

DaneMcCloud
09-14-2008, 03:41 PM
Not now, LJ isn't worth crap. Last year there was an NFL-wide rumor that Dallas was prepared to give us one of their 1sts + an established RB whose name escapes me now. Rumor of course, but such rumors usually come true when other teams are involved. The said RB, btw, had a better season than LJ last year.

That's just outright ****ing bullshit.

Who started the "rumor"? You? KK?

JuicesFlowing
09-14-2008, 03:42 PM
I can think of 19 million reasons...

Ah, okay. I guess he was supposed to play for less money, and get hammered each game. You are right. I guess we need to give more money to the O-line.

DaneMcCloud
09-14-2008, 03:43 PM
He didn't do dick behind the left side either, Dane.

He's a different runner than 2005. It's PAINFULLY obvious. He's dancing, he's tentative - and when he does get in the open, he nancy's his way OOB.

So, who looked better on running plays?

No one.

The bottom line is that the offensive line is in transition and until the right side is repaired, no one, including the QB's and running backs, are going to look "good".

Mecca
09-14-2008, 03:43 PM
If he didn't want to be a Chief, then why did he sign his contract?

Because no other team was going to pay him close to that?

Frankie
09-14-2008, 03:44 PM
This is ****ing dumb.

The right side of the offensive line is ****ing awful. Until that's fixed (2009 offseason), none of the running backs will do shit in the running game.

It's called rebuilding.

Get over it.

No it's not dumb. Charles and Smith at least look like they are trying. I bet if they are more involved, as much as LJ they would come up with one or two big plays DESPITE the O-line.

OnTheWarpath58
09-14-2008, 03:44 PM
Ah, okay. I guess he was supposed to play for less money, and get hammered each game. You are right. I guess we need to give more money to the O-line.

You're missing the point.

He re-signed here for the $19M signing bonus, knowing damn well he wasn't getting anywhere near that amount anywhere else.

I'm not saying he shoudl have taken less here.

I'm saying he took the best deal he was ever going to get...

Frankie
09-14-2008, 03:45 PM
If he didn't want to be a Chief, then why did he sign his contract?

$

OnTheWarpath58
09-14-2008, 03:46 PM
So, who looked better on running plays?

No one.

The bottom line is that the offensive line is in transition and until the right side is repaired, no one, including the QB's and running backs, are going to look "good".

No one else got more than 3 carries.

el borracho
09-14-2008, 03:49 PM
I think it's a lot more playcalling/offensive line than it is Larry Johnson.

Ditto.

Iowanian
09-14-2008, 03:49 PM
The Chiefs have a lot of cap room.


They need to dump Larry Johnson to a contender that loses their RB by the trade Deadline.

Johnson won't be a factor by the time this team is ready to win.

If they like Tony Gonzalez at all.....they'll dump him to a contender by week 6 as well to acquire a draft pick.

Mecca
09-14-2008, 03:51 PM
No team is going to give you anything for LJ....the only thing the Chiefs can do with him is ride it out or cut him.

Frankie
09-14-2008, 03:51 PM
Johnson won't be a factor by the time this team is ready to win.

That's another argument that I vigorously used in my call to trade him last year. I agree a 100%.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-14-2008, 03:53 PM
LJ is *****ing done. Accept it.

Frankie
09-14-2008, 03:54 PM
No team is going to give you anything for LJ....the only thing the Chiefs can do with him is ride it out or cut him.

We might get lucky if a serious contender loses their main RB this year, like Iowanian said. And if we can successfully sell the myth that his lack of production is solely due to our O-line.

el borracho
09-14-2008, 03:55 PM
Nothing wrong with LJ. If we find a passing game next year he will get his yards. Until then, expect 8 or 9 in the box and very little room to run.

irishjayhawk
09-14-2008, 03:56 PM
No team is going to give you anything for LJ....the only thing the Chiefs can do with him is ride it out or cut him.

And hence why I gloat to anyone who'll listen that I said we should trade him after his 400+ carry season

FAX
09-14-2008, 03:56 PM
If he could pass block, I'd feel a lot better about him.

FAX

Micjones
09-14-2008, 03:56 PM
This is ****ing dumb.

The right side of the offensive line is ****ing awful. Until that's fixed (2009 offseason), none of the running backs will do shit in the running game.

It's called rebuilding.

Get over it.

People still believe that this joke of a football team is rebuilding?
You honestly think this staff has one clue on how to do that?

Larry Johnson doesn't create anything on his own.
He doesn't set up his blocks well, he can't pick up blitzing defenders, and he's gotten a bit tentative in his running.

HE should've been traded. Not Jared Allen.

dtrain
09-14-2008, 03:58 PM
No team is going to give you anything for LJ....the only thing the Chiefs can do with him is ride it out or cut him.

I bet the Texans would give something

Mecca
09-14-2008, 03:59 PM
And hence why I gloat to anyone who'll listen that I said we should trade him after his 400+ carry season

I said that too, anyone saying that took alot of abuse at the time.

Frankie
09-14-2008, 03:59 PM
And hence why I gloat to anyone who'll listen that I said we should trade him after his 400+ carry season

Me 2. Correction, I don't gloat. I have a sick feeling of helplessness and frustration about it in my gut.

Lonewolf Ed
09-14-2008, 03:59 PM
This is ****ing dumb.

The right side of the offensive line is ****ing awful. Until that's fixed (2009 offseason), none of the running backs will do shit in the running game.

It's called rebuilding.

Get over it.

How long have the Raiders been rebuilding? I see them as better off than KC, and that is sad.

OnTheWarpath58
09-14-2008, 04:02 PM
How long have the Raiders been rebuilding? I see them as better off than KC, and that is sad.

Yet they've sucked for over 5 years, and we've sucked for 11 games.

banyon
09-14-2008, 04:23 PM
LJ postgame on 810:

"I'm the kind of running back that needs to get warmed up. I didn't get warmed up."

Also talking about that his money isn't secure or guaranteed.

Robo-Chachi
09-14-2008, 04:23 PM
LJ is already talking to Rhonda Moss about being on his way out of KC.

banyon
09-14-2008, 04:26 PM
Yep. LJ wants to quit and get traded.

OnTheWarpath58
09-14-2008, 04:27 PM
Yep. LJ wants to quit and get traded.

Wasn't that obvious by his running?

Robo-Chachi
09-14-2008, 04:29 PM
LJ is too much of a malcontent too see any sort of rebuilding through. Guy simply does not put the team before himself. Any future success this team has, he will not be a part of.

banyon
09-14-2008, 04:30 PM
Wasn't that obvious by his running?

Yeah, but he's making it official now.

JuicesFlowing
09-14-2008, 04:30 PM
LJ is too much of a malcontent too see any sort of rebuilding through. Guy simply does not put the team before himself. Any future success this team has, he will not be a part of.

BECAUSE THE BLOCKING IS SOOOOO GOOD.

triple
09-14-2008, 04:32 PM
this franchise made a huge mistake in giving larry johnson that big contract

Robo-Chachi
09-14-2008, 04:32 PM
It doesn't have to do with the blocking, it has to do with the attitude of Larry Johnson. Countdown to LJ's long-term "injury" has begun.

Robo-Chachi
09-14-2008, 04:33 PM
Larry will get a "head trauma" next week.

Halfcan
09-14-2008, 05:00 PM
Hindsight is 20/20 if you were in favor of resigning him when they did you really can't bitch cause that means you'd have done the same thing.

Mecca predicted the decline of Pampers long before this thread. Seems he nailed it.

Silock
09-14-2008, 05:04 PM
I wonder if you felt this way when we was gaining 1,700 yards and 20 TDs per year. Just curious.

I didn't feel this way. However, at the time, he was running with heart and determination. He's definitely not doing that now.

Here's the key reason I don't like him any more:

Look at Tony Gonzalez. He's out there working his ASS off, every single down. He's on the downside of his career and can't have too many more years left in him. But he's still working hard, even if it's with the 3rd string QB.

LJ? Just acts pathetic.

**** a bunch of LJ.

DJJasonp
09-14-2008, 05:04 PM
the only person who has ruined LJ....is LJ.

He got his money....and he will NEVER run like he did 2 years ago again.

So many times I've seen him lower his head, run into the backs of the o-linemen...meanwhile, he has clear skies if he bounced it outside. His vision has diminished so much it's sad....which, in my mind...since he used to have great vision...is a direct reflection upon his attitude...which apparently sucks.

FAX
09-14-2008, 05:08 PM
Wow. LJ was just interviewed and was talking about leaving the Chiefs. "Nothing's guaranteed in the NFL."

FAX

Bwana
09-14-2008, 05:10 PM
this franchise made a huge mistake in giving larry johnson that big contract


The sun sets in the west.

redbrian
09-14-2008, 05:15 PM
Not now, LJ isn't worth crap. Last year there was an NFL-wide rumor that Dallas was prepared to give us one of their 1sts + an established RB whose name escapes me now. Rumor of course, but such rumors usually come true when other teams are involved. The said RB, btw, had a better season than LJ last year.

Oh I think it must of been true.....a 1st and a stud running back........who wouldn't make that trade.......happens every day in the NFL..

tk13
09-14-2008, 05:21 PM
Most people would've rioted had they not signed LJ at the time. There were very few people, fans or analysts, who thought we shouldn't do it.

But that's the pickle you end up with. Now nobody's gonna give up anything of value for him... yet if we do dump him for peanuts, he's probably gonna go play behind a better line, be more aggressive again, and look like 2005 LJ.

Sure-Oz
09-14-2008, 05:23 PM
LJ i think can still be a good RB, we have no offensive line or offensive direction....plus his attitude sucks ass and he ran over 400 times the year before last.

Herm basically has ruined the chiefs with his butt buddy carl

dj56dt58
09-14-2008, 05:36 PM
Why was Charles/Smith in for the last few drives? Did we bench his ass or is he hurt?

Silock
09-14-2008, 05:54 PM
Why was Charles/Smith in for the last few drives? Did we bench his ass or is he hurt?

Probably because they're better blockers. Notice he was in on the 2 pt. conversion.

irishjayhawk
09-14-2008, 06:06 PM
Me 2. Correction, I don't gloat. I have a sick feeling of helplessness and frustration about it in my gut.

Yeah, a more accurate description to how I feel.

I said that too, anyone saying that took alot of abuse at the time.

Yep. Interestingly, the next season they (friends) all magically said they were all for trading him.

aturnis
09-14-2008, 06:18 PM
Done by the over-use of two years ago followed by the big contract of last year. He is a fat cat who has no heart and does the very minimum of what he is supposed to do.

Sorry Frankie, nothing personal, but this is idiotic. The play calling is bad enough. The same 3 running plays called EVERY time LJ gets the ball. Kind of easy to defend especially when Damion MacIntosh and Adrian Jones are the blockers you for some odd reason, prefer to run behind.

If Herm had ANY sense, Mac would not be playing. I don't know if you've watched the line, but Mac gets beat just about every passing down. You notice those guys who run around after the quarterback BEHIND the offensive line? Those guys usually come through Jones and Mac.

You noticed all the holes in that side of the line when we run it there over and over and over and over? Neither do I. They don't exist.

Remember when LJ used to run outside the tackles? Like sweeps and shit? Yeah, I don't think he even gets a chance to do that anymore.

Not defending LJ, but the play calling is dreadful.

Coach
09-14-2008, 06:59 PM
Most people would've rioted had they not signed LJ at the time. There were very few people, fans or analysts, who thought we shouldn't do it.

But that's the pickle you end up with. Now nobody's gonna give up anything of value for him... yet if we do dump him for peanuts, he's probably gonna go play behind a better line, be more aggressive again, and look like 2005 LJ.

He won't. He'll never be the same after the infamous 416 carries. There's evidence that backs that up, that if you break the NFL single-season rushing attempts, you won't be good again, except if you are Eric Dickerson, and to an extent, Emmitt Smith.

gblowfish
09-14-2008, 07:00 PM
LJ will act now the same way Randy Moss acted when he was in Oakland. Be a pain in the ass and mope till you get traded.

Molitoth
09-14-2008, 07:02 PM
LJ doesn't deserve to be on this piece of shit team. I don't think LJ is a great RB, but he for sure isn't as bad as our playcalling and OL make him look.

Dayze
09-14-2008, 07:05 PM
we'll be paying out the ears for him the next 2 years minimum.

Awesome.

tk13
09-14-2008, 07:05 PM
He won't. He'll never be the same after the infamous 416 carries. There's evidence that backs that up, that if you break the NFL single-season rushing attempts, you won't be good again, except if you are Eric Dickerson, and to an extent, Emmitt Smith.
I was one of the people arguing that all those carries are bad for him. But it's not like his career is over immediately. It just made him more likely to be injured the next season. And shorten his career.

I bet if you put him in the backfield for the Patriots, you would be amazed at what you saw.

Coach
09-14-2008, 07:07 PM
I was one of the people arguing that all those carries are bad for him. But it's not like his career is over immediately. It just made him more likely to be injured the next season. And shorten his career.

I bet if you put him in the backfield for the Patriots, you would be amazed at what you saw.

Sammy Morris has been terrible for NE. I don't think it will work very well there, since most teams can now box 8 in the middle, and try to force Cassell to beat them with his arm.

No, I'm tired of people making excuses for LJ, when it's clearly obvious that he's done.

Programmer
09-14-2008, 07:09 PM
Done by the over-use of two years ago followed by the big contract of last year. He is a fat cat who has no heart and does the very minimum of what he is supposed to do. The 1st rounder that we would have gotten from Dallas would have filled another hole. But Carl had to prove that HIS personal pick (over the wishes of his HC) was smart!

Absolutely the most ignornt football post of all time.

LJ does not have an offensive line.
Hermcuff does not allow the OC to game plan to use LJ the way he should be used.
Hermcuffs game plan never includes runs outside the tackles.
What offense we have is transparent.

Today until we were out of the gam we ran on virtually every first and second down.

Carl Peterson had no input on that. You can hate Carl all you want but the blame for LJ's lack of performance lies directly with Hermcuff Edweirds.

Gravedigger
09-14-2008, 07:13 PM
You have to admit Programmer that running into the pile every time, instead of cutting to the outside, is pretty lame. Great running backs improvise and find the holes, LJ hasn't done that the entire year. Year Herm is terrible and his gameplans are almost as bad as his explanations for them afterwards, but in all honesty LJ isn't looking very good out there. If a dick like Herm or Chan call a run up the gut a good RB would see that the middle is collapsed and he needs to kick it out just a bit. Just my .02.

Frankie
09-14-2008, 08:53 PM
LJ is already talking to Rhonda Moss about being on his way out of KC.

HALLELUJA!!!

Frankie
09-14-2008, 08:55 PM
BECAUSE THE BLOCKING IS SOOOOO GOOD.

AH GET OFF IT! He doesn't even try.

Brock
09-14-2008, 08:56 PM
There's nothing wrong with Larry Johnson that a better offensive line wouldn't fix.

Frankie
09-14-2008, 08:58 PM
this franchise made a huge mistake in giving larry johnson that big contract

I was somewhat of a CP supporter. Then when he gave the big contract to Dan Williams I jumped on the fence. When he gave LJ the big contract (instead of trading him) I jumped over to the other side. Those two contracts have been the biggest waste of Chiefs money that I can recall.

the Talking Can
09-14-2008, 09:02 PM
There's nothing wrong with Larry Johnson that a better offensive line wouldn't fix.

his blocking...which is effort and concern for the team....and he cares little about either

Frankie
09-14-2008, 09:08 PM
Absolutely the most ignornt football post of all time.
I can't decide if you are more political-stupid or football-stupid. Give me some time to decide. :hmmm: