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Buck
09-15-2008, 03:56 PM
Not because he beat my team, but just look at him

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3589407

Chief_in_Commander
09-15-2008, 03:59 PM
Agreed, he needs to be punched in the face......by ed hocuhli

keg in kc
09-15-2008, 04:00 PM
Between that and the first half *****up, this may be the one game where I wouldn't argue if you said the refs cost you a win.

No excuse, just horrible...

KcMizzou
09-15-2008, 04:00 PM
He is an easy guy to dislike.

Fruit Ninja
09-15-2008, 04:01 PM
When your playing a rival, you will take a win anyway you can get it. Its not his fault that the Ref's blew it. As much as i hate the Broncos, it is what it is.

OnTheWarpath58
09-15-2008, 04:02 PM
"As for things that occurred during the game, in my mind, they're done," Turner said. "We sent the plays in to the league that we had in question. We expect to get a response back. Anything that we talk about or anything that is discussed in terms of any of the rules or any of the calls isn't going to change the outcome of that game. That game is going to be 39-38, forever."

Interesting, Norv.

So, those blown calls are done, yet you are still sending tape into the league and expect a response.

You got your response on Sunday straight from the horse's mouth.

Hochuli walked right over to you and said "I blew it."

Bowser
09-15-2008, 04:03 PM
The Chargers got royally ****ed over in Denver. Instead of sitting 1-1 with a road win in division, they're in a 0-2 hole, not to mention 0-1 in division. I will be interested to see how this effects the playoff run at the end of the season.


Sorry, BK. You guys got hosed so bad, I feel bad for you guys.

Deberg_1990
09-15-2008, 04:08 PM
id give anything for him to be a chief

orange
09-15-2008, 04:10 PM
I'm not sure why that particular link hacks you off. He didn't talk smack or anything, and the game is already over.

You should save your angst till later when he's named Player of the Week. Then you'll have something specific to gnash your teeth over.

Simply Red
09-15-2008, 04:11 PM
Um, your team won that game. Sorry for the BS.

BigRock
09-15-2008, 04:13 PM
Did you hear this sorry BS from Shanny?

Denver coach Mike Shanahan said Monday that Ed Hochuli and his crew "did a heck of a job" overall Sunday in Denver's controversial 39-38 Denver win over the Chargers.

Shanahan said during his press briefing today he grades the officials every Monday morning and Sunday's crew came up smelling like roses.

"Well obviously, I think Ed Hochuli, said that they missed a call. I grade the officials all the time," Shanahan said. "You take a look at offense, defense and special teams and you send in a report each week. This was the best crew that we have had in the last 20 crews I have graded. They did a heck of a job."

HECK OF A JOB BROWNIE

Simply Red
09-15-2008, 04:14 PM
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BIG_DADDY
09-15-2008, 04:14 PM
Between that and the first half *****up, this may be the one game where I wouldn't argue if you said the refs cost you a win.

No excuse, just horrible...

Unfriggenbelievable is what it was. Why is it that The Donx are always on the beneficial end of this shit? To say you don't have replay when they were all watching it just because the Donx don't want to show it to the refs is complete BS. The Cutler call I don't even have words for. The fix was in BIG TIME in this game.

keg in kc
09-15-2008, 04:15 PM
Unfriggenbelievable is what it was. Why is it that The Donx are always on the beneficial end of this shit? To say you don't have replay when they were all watching it just because the Donx don't want to show it to the refs is complete BS. The Cutler call I don't even have words for. The fix was in BIG TIME in this game.Most blatant shit I think I've ever seen.

Simply Red
09-15-2008, 04:21 PM
Most blatant shit I think I've ever seen.

And for Hock-a-loog to admit he was wrong. Move your gnmn'd pride out the way, Brutus!

rambleonthruthefog
09-15-2008, 04:21 PM
i wish we had jay cutler.

or rivers, or just about any other starting quarterback in this league, and half of the backups.

caffeinated_virus
09-15-2008, 04:22 PM
Unfriggenbelievable is what it was. Why is it that The Donx are always on the beneficial end of this shit? To say you don't have replay when they were all watching it just because the Donx don't want to show it to the refs is complete BS. The Cutler call I don't even have words for. The fix was in BIG TIME in this game.

Funny how the replay booth "all the sudden" stopped working when trying to review a favorable call for the Broncos.

The fix was in.

I hate the the game was decided by the zebras. :cuss:

Buck
09-15-2008, 04:22 PM
I'm not sure why that particular link hacks you off. He didn't talk smack or anything, and the game is already over.

You should save your angst till later when he's named Player of the Week. Then you'll have something specific to gnash your teeth over.

No, not anything he said, just his face.

Buck
09-15-2008, 04:23 PM
As far as the blown call goes, I dont think I'll be over it until week 6 or so if we beat the Patriots. If we dont win the division I'll be pissed.

Ed Hochuli can eat my balls.

Spicy McHaggis
09-15-2008, 04:24 PM
When asked if he would apologize to the Chargers, Hochuli glowered into the camera and said, "Apologize? With these guns?" as he motioned to his biceps. He continued flexing and and muttering "Check the lats, yeah baby" 10 minutes after the press conference had ended.

Moobs
09-15-2008, 04:25 PM
Let's all group hug the Chargers fan.

Simply Red
09-15-2008, 04:25 PM
Cutler reminds me of the slightly overweight kid at the bus-stop. You know the one w/ the snotty-nose and half of the snot has dried to a few crisps? You know the one, ---- well, him...

ChiefaRoo
09-15-2008, 04:28 PM
No, not anything he said, just his face.

I've always liked this pic
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/buyingguy/jcutlerstonedgl61.jpg

Bill Lundberg
09-15-2008, 04:29 PM
My name is Bill Lundberg and I like Jay Cutler. I would give my left nut to see him in a Chiefs uniform....

There, I said it. And I don't feel any better about it.

Simply Red
09-15-2008, 04:30 PM
I've always liked this pic
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/buyingguy/jcutlerstonedgl61.jpg


I remembered that while reading this thread and forgot who in the hell did the art! Fabulous! :LOL:

El Pendejo
09-15-2008, 04:38 PM
Funny how the replay booth "all the sudden" stopped working when trying to review a favorable call for the Broncos.

The fix was in.

I hate the the game was decided by the zebras. :cuss:

Of course. Throughout the game I swear I saw Hochuli pick up at least three blitzes.

ChiefaRoo
09-15-2008, 04:42 PM
When asked if he would apologize to the Chargers, Hochuli glowered into the camera and said, "Apologize? With these guns?" as he motioned to his biceps. He continued flexing and and muttering "Check the lats, yeah baby" 10 minutes after the press conference had ended.

LMAO heh.

Mecca
09-15-2008, 04:44 PM
It does kind of suck that the best young QB in this division and maybe football is in Denver.

Bill Parcells
09-15-2008, 04:47 PM
Interesting, Norv.

So, those blown calls are done, yet you are still sending tape into the league and expect a response.

You got your response on Sunday straight from the horse's mouth.

Hochuli walked right over to you and said "I blew it."

Norv wants an apology


ROFL

I remember Kotite wanting an apology for a blown pass int penalty on Keyshawn Johnson in 1996. he got his apology and the Jets lost the game. who cares, move on.


Norv Turner > Rich Kotite

BIG_DADDY
09-15-2008, 04:48 PM
Norv should be able to completely destroy that team within a couple more years

orange
09-15-2008, 04:57 PM
It does kind of suck that the best young QB in this division and maybe football is in Denver.

Whatever do you mean?! It's Terrific! :thumb:

Buck
09-15-2008, 04:59 PM
LMAO

I just saw this on another website, it proves my point.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3126/2860209751_d83c3edd3a_o.jpg

Deberg_1990
09-15-2008, 05:00 PM
It does kind of suck that the best young QB in this division and maybe football is in Denver.


True....kind of lost in all this is how well Phillip Rivers is playing this year too....Sigh....

Spott
09-15-2008, 05:00 PM
I think SD will still win the division. Kharma is a bitch and it will come back to get the Donkeys.

Mr. Plow
09-15-2008, 05:01 PM
Does Denver need any new fans?

DaFace
09-15-2008, 05:02 PM
Did you hear this sorry BS from Shanny?

HECK OF A JOB BROWNIE

I think this is the key there:

"This was the best crew that we have had in the last 20 crews I have graded," Shanahan said.

Did he really say that with a straight face?

Spicy McHaggis
09-15-2008, 05:03 PM
So technically, you're saying you want to Donkey Punch Jay Cutler.

orange
09-15-2008, 05:03 PM
Does Denver need any new fans?

Welcome aboard. There's always room... at the sports bars. Newcomers haven't been able to get actual tickets for decades. :evil:

Buck
09-15-2008, 05:04 PM
Philip Rivers - 21/33, 377 Yards, 3 Touchdowns, 1 Interception (supposedly)

Jay Cutler - 36/50, 350 Yards, 4 Touchdowns, 1 Interception, 1 Fumble (Damnit)

I'd say that if it weren't for the first blown call in the first quarter, Rivers would have had over 400 yards passing and maybe 4 TDs.

If our Recievers didn't drop 2 balls inside the 10 (and one in the endzone), he could have had up to 6.

Cutler was just awesome, 3 step drops all day, racking up 5 to 10 yards at a time.

BIG_DADDY
09-15-2008, 05:05 PM
Welcome aboard. There's always room... at the sports bars. Newcomers haven't been able to get actual tickets for decades. :evil:

The officials are the biggest fans they have. Life in dog killing country. Next he will tell you he thinks Obama will make a great president.

orange
09-15-2008, 05:06 PM
Next he will tell you he thinks Obama will make a great president.

If you mean ME by that... you haven't been keeping up. Drop over to DC sometime.

orange
09-15-2008, 05:09 PM
I'd say that if it weren't for the first blown call in the first quarter, Rivers would have had over 400 yards passing and maybe 4 TDs.



You should probably just let that one rest. They wouldn't have reversed the call from the replays that CBS showed. You could never see the ball at the point when the receiver's knee/elbow hit. They would need a reverse angle or endzone shot to overturn.

Even Norv isn't pushing that one.

KCrockaholic
09-15-2008, 05:12 PM
Philip Rivers - 21/33, 377 Yards, 3 Touchdowns, 1 Interception (supposedly)

Jay Cutler - 36/50, 350 Yards, 4 Touchdowns, 1 Interception, 1 Fumble (Damnit)

I'd say that if it weren't for the first blown call in the first quarter, Rivers would have had over 400 yards passing and maybe 4 TDs.

If our Recievers didn't drop 2 balls inside the 10 (and one in the endzone), he could have had up to 6.

Cutler was just awesome, 3 step drops all day, racking up 5 to 10 yards at a time.

Cutler was only good because the damn chargers were playing prevent defense the whole game. actually both teams continued to play prevent. But That game was the biggest piece of crap of a game ive ever seen. The damn refs were wearing blue and orange stripes the whole game...(BTW can anyone make an image of Ed in a blue/ orange ref suit?) SD should have won that game by 2 TD's...and it sucks even worse having to live out here and deal with all the horse sh*t, they all think they are that good now...well week 1, they played Oakland. Enough said...week 2, the refs were betting 2 mil on the donkeys. WTF? Houculi or w/e should be fired now! im sick of this sports betting garbage...and anyone who thinks the refs werent betting in this game has their heads waaay up shanahans rat a$$

Buck
09-15-2008, 05:12 PM
You should probably just let that one rest. They wouldn't have reversed the call from the replays that CBS showed. You could never see the ball at the point when the receiver's knee/elbow hit. They would need a reverse angle or endzone shot to overturn.

Even Norv isn't pushing that one.

Oh, well I was at the game and every single person I know who is in SD called me and told me how much bullshit that call was, along with a lot of people having posted so somewhere in this forum.

Unfortunately, ESPN does not show that highlight (or the Sproles Return TD either???), so I can't really say for sure that it was a catch, but from what I've heard theres no possible way it was an Interception.

Mecca
09-15-2008, 05:14 PM
True....kind of lost in all this is how well Phillip Rivers is playing this year too....Sigh....

Rivers is really coming on aswell...

It also sure looks like Brandon Marshall is the standard bearer at WR in this division now too, he's pushing for top 5 in the league status.

BIG_DADDY
09-15-2008, 05:16 PM
If you mean ME by that... you haven't been keeping up. Drop over to DC sometime.

I thought that's what you guys did in Denver. Buy officials, kill your dogs and promote Mr. GOD DAMN AMERICA as our next POTUS. LMAO

KCrockaholic
09-15-2008, 05:16 PM
Oh, well I was at the game and every single person I know who is in SD called me and told me how much bullshit that call was, along with a lot of people having posted so somewhere in this forum.

Unfortunately, ESPN does not show that highlight (or the Sproles Return TD either???), so I can't really say for sure that it was a catch, but from what I've heard theres no possible way it was an Interception.

that call was BS as well

KCrockaholic
09-15-2008, 05:18 PM
I thought that's what you guys did in Denver. Buy officials, kill your dogs and promote Mr. GOD DAMN AMERICA as our next POTUS. LMAO

haha funny you say that since hes in Pueblo, CO doing a speech right now as i type. hes about 20 miles from where i live

JASONSAUTO
09-15-2008, 05:18 PM
I think SD will still win the division. Kharma is a bitch and it will come back to get the Donkeys.

KARMA? thats what got the chargers last night, remember what rivers did last year on the sidelines to cutler?? it was totally classless and came back last night. hey rivers next time talk shit to someone who can hit you pussy

Buck
09-15-2008, 05:20 PM
KARMA? thats what got the chargers last night, remember what rivers did last year on the sidelines to cutler?? it was totally classless and came back last night. hey rivers next time talk shit to someone who can hit you pussy

You are a dickhead, you just seem to want to piss me off everytime you post. I've never seen a post from you that wasn't going against what I was saying. All you do is bash on the Chargers, I hope you are having fun with that.

Mecca
09-15-2008, 05:22 PM
You are a dickhead, you just seem to want to piss me off everytime you post. I've never seen a post from you that wasn't going against what I was saying. All you do is bash on the Chargers, I hope you are having fun with that.

He does that to me too, he doesn't like anyone on the board unless they are a giant Chiefs homer.

I feel bad for you man, LT is showing the signs of getting old, you're gonna need a new RB.

orange
09-15-2008, 05:23 PM
Sproles looks pretty good to me.

Buck
09-15-2008, 05:23 PM
He does that to me too, he doesn't like anyone on the board unless they are a giant Chiefs homer.

I feel bad for you man, LT is showing the signs of getting old, you're gonna need a new RB.

Yeah, I think we'll have a better idea in a few weeks. Hopefully they sit him until the Pats game in Week 6.

BIG_DADDY
09-15-2008, 05:23 PM
He does that to me too, he doesn't like anyone on the board unless they are a giant Chiefs homer.

I feel bad for you man, LT is showing the signs of getting old, you're gonna need a new RB.

Too small and lost a step.

Mecca
09-15-2008, 05:24 PM
Yeah, I think we'll have a better idea in a few weeks. Hopefully they sit him until the Pats game in Week 6.

When I was watching that and saw him on the sideline I was like...did be bruise his vagina again?

JASONSAUTO
09-15-2008, 05:24 PM
not trying to piss you off man, actually a couple of weeks ago we had a pretty good discussion, and i hardly ever say anything about the chargers, find some posts show that. rivers WAS totally classless that night and he deserves whatever comes to him from cutler.
AND REALLY SHOW ME A POST WHERE I BASHED THE CHARGERS

Buck
09-15-2008, 05:25 PM
When I was watching that and saw him on the sideline I was like...did be bruise his vagina again?

LMAO, at least he doesn't have a permanently bruised vagina like your boy, LJ.

Mecca
09-15-2008, 05:25 PM
Too small and lost a step.

LT has actually lasted longer than most RB's do, you knew this was going to happen sometime in the next year or 2, for a RB he's very old.

Mecca
09-15-2008, 05:25 PM
not trying to piss you off man, actually a couple of weeks ago we had a pretty good discussion, and i hardly ever say anything about the chargers, find some posts show that. rivers WAS totally classless that night and he deserves whatever comes to him from cutler.
AND REALLY SHOW ME A POST WHERE I BASHED THE CHARGERS

That classless dude Rivers can come play some QB for the Chiefs.....

JASONSAUTO
09-15-2008, 05:26 PM
He does that to me too, he doesn't like anyone on the board unless they are a giant Chiefs homer.

I feel bad for you man, LT is showing the signs of getting old, you're gonna need a new RB.

now you mouthing? aint said shit to you lately either. but while we're on the subject i LOVED how you threw usc into a LJ thread earlier. and you said you only bring them up in college threads, BULLSHIT

Buck
09-15-2008, 05:26 PM
not trying to piss you off man, actually a couple of weeks ago we had a pretty good discussion, and i hardly ever say anything about the chargers, find some posts show that. rivers WAS totally classless that night and he deserves whatever comes to him from cutler.
AND REALLY SHOW ME A POST WHERE I BASHED THE CHARGERS

Well I'm not going to search through the forum to find something, but I think that trash talk is totally exaggerated, you can totally tell he is saying "Atta baby" and smacking a Linebacker on the ass for a good play. Supposedly earlier in the game, Cutler had been Jawing to Rivers, but of course that wasn't caught on camera, so take that for what you will.

JASONSAUTO
09-15-2008, 05:28 PM
That classless dude Rivers can come play some QB for the Chiefs.....

oh id take him yeah, but the way he acted that day WAS classless and jawing with the fans when he was headed to the lockerroom injured was also

Mecca
09-15-2008, 05:29 PM
now you mouthing? aint said shit to you lately either. but while we're on the subject i LOVED how you threw usc into a LJ thread earlier. and you said you only bring them up in college threads, BULLSHIT

Using examples of how pro and college teams use multiple backs to dismiss his shit of he needs all the carries to be any good....yea ok.

Mecca
09-15-2008, 05:30 PM
oh id take him yeah, but the way he acted that day WAS classless and jawing with the fans when he was headed to the lockerroom injured was also

Dude I love that shit, Rivers plays with attitude that is what you want, if you're a Charger fan you love that shit, we talk shit about cause he's not on our team.

You want players with that kinda swagger and attitude you just don't like them when they aren't on your team simple as that.

BIG_DADDY
09-15-2008, 05:30 PM
LT has actually lasted longer than most RB's do, you knew this was going to happen sometime in the next year or 2, for a RB he's very old.

Some small guys can just keep going. Word is LT doesn't train as hard as he should. Emmitt Smith was a conditioning monster. I think you have to be to survive and thrive at that position over the years especially when you're small.

Norv will be their downfall in the end. I honestly expect them to replace him within 2 years. Marty built that team and should have been able to keep his job there.

JASONSAUTO
09-15-2008, 05:30 PM
Well I'm not going to search through the forum to find something, but I think that trash talk is totally exaggerated, you can totally tell he is saying "Atta baby" and smacking a Linebacker on the ass for a good play. Supposedly earlier in the game, Cutler had been Jawing to Rivers, but of course that wasn't caught on camera, so take that for what you will.
you arent gonna search? why not? I HAVENT BASHED THE CHARGERS AT ALL.
no you can see him cupping his hands to his mouth yelling at cutler. who cares about "supposedly"? prove it. then MAYBE rivers would have a reason to be a bitch

Buck
09-15-2008, 05:32 PM
you arent gonna search? why not? I HAVENT BASHED THE CHARGERS AT ALL.
no you can see him cupping his hands to his mouth yelling at cutler. who cares about "supposedly"? prove it. then MAYBE rivers would have a reason to be a bitch

Why the hell would I make up something like that? You are stupid.

JASONSAUTO
09-15-2008, 05:32 PM
Using examples of how pro and college teams use multiple backs to dismiss his shit of he needs all the carries to be any good....yea ok.

its like comparing apples to oranges, usc has SO MUCH BETTER TALENT than EVERY OTHER team that no matter who they throw in there is gonna kill it. LETS BE REAL. ok.

orange
09-15-2008, 05:32 PM
Dude I love that shit, Rivers plays with attitude that is what you want, if you're a Charger fan you love that shit, we talk shit about cause he's not on our team.

You want players with that kinda swagger and attitude you just don't like them when they aren't on your team simple as that.

Yeahbut...

Shit-talking works better when you've WON something.

Brady talking shit? :thumb:

Rivers talking shit? ROFL

JASONSAUTO
09-15-2008, 05:34 PM
Why the hell would I make up something like that? You are stupid.

did i say YOU made it up, no so MAYBE you are stupid. i meant that rivers might have said something to that effect to make himself look better after the incident
like ive said before i dont bash the chargers, never have, and thats just wrong for you to say. rivers was an asshole that night, i dont like either team also

Buck
09-15-2008, 05:36 PM
did i say YOU made it up, no so MAYBE you are stupid. i meant that rivers might have said something to that effect to make himself look better after the incident
like ive said before i dont bash the chargers, never have, and thats just wrong for you to say. rivers was an asshole that night, i dont like either team also

Okey dokey.

JASONSAUTO
09-15-2008, 05:37 PM
look bk i can understand what you're saying about last night i too watched the game the chargers were screwed but what comes around goes around
and you should admit that you are wrong about me bashing the chargers

Mile High Mania
09-15-2008, 06:37 PM
Crazy game indeed and one hell of an unfortunate blown call... but, nothing I can do or say about it. I'll happily accept the outcome knowing full well that I would be every bit as pissed if it had been the Chargers that benefited from such a poor call.

Both teams played well enough to win... I like what I'm seeing from Cutler's maturation in this offense, I like it a lot. The defense still has a ton to prove, it's going to be a long season.

Mr. Flopnuts
09-15-2008, 06:41 PM
Crazy game indeed and one hell of an unfortunate blown call... but, nothing I can do or say about it. I'll happily accept the outcome knowing full well that I would be every bit as pissed if it had been the Chargers that benefited from such a poor call.

Both teams played well enough to win... I like what I'm seeing from Cutler's masturbation all over this offense, I like it a lot. The defense still has a ton to prove, it's going to be a long season.

What?

Sure-Oz
09-15-2008, 06:44 PM
Crazy game indeed and one hell of an unfortunate blown call... but, nothing I can do or say about it. I'll happily accept the outcome knowing full well that I would be every bit as pissed if it had been the Chargers that benefited from such a poor call.

Both teams played well enough to win... I like what I'm seeing from Cutler's maturation in this offense, I like it a lot. The defense still has a ton to prove, it's going to be a long season.
Cutler is going to be good, you guys got a good offense going, that defense definetly needs to improve...hate to say it but i wish we had him

HemiEd
09-15-2008, 06:44 PM
The Cutler call I don't even have words for. The fix was in BIG TIME in this game.
I had the right end of it this time. :D

Mile High Mania
09-15-2008, 06:56 PM
It always makes me laugh to read about "the fix is in"... there will be plays that go against them this year, it evens out pretty much. Now, that play with the fumble and the blown whistle... it's tough to top that one, but there will be bad calls that go against Denver.

kcfanintitanhell
09-15-2008, 07:07 PM
I looked through this whole thread (at least I think I did), and it hasn't been mentioned. Didn't Colquitt do the same thing a couple years ago as a holder on a botched snap? Scooped up by the other team and returned for a touchdown, and I don't think it was even reviewed.

KCTitus
09-15-2008, 07:27 PM
There is something horribly wrong with that call...I understand the ruling, as written, a silly whistle shouldnt award possession if it clearly was a fumble. There was no evidence the players involved 'slowed up' as a result of the whistle which has to be the reason for the intent of the 'inadvertant whistle'.

Ive hated Ed Hochuli and his crew for years...he's as bad as Luckett was and his crew is always involved in the result of the game in some fashion.

WilliamTheIrish
09-15-2008, 07:34 PM
It always makes me laugh to read about "the fix is in"... there will be plays that go against them this year, it evens out pretty much. Now, that play with the fumble and the blown whistle... it's tough to top that one, but there will be bad calls that go against Denver.

Of course there will be calls that go against Denver. But will that call lead directly to another chance to win a game?

Because without a doubt, that game was over when Cutler fumbled.

KCTitus
09-15-2008, 07:39 PM
Of course there will be calls that go against Denver. But will that call lead directly to another chance to win a game?

Because without a doubt, that game was over when Cutler fumbled.

Never seen Denver lose in that fashion...in over 25 years...ever.

DaFace
09-15-2008, 07:46 PM
Never seen Denver lose in that fashion...in over 25 years...ever.

I've barely been alive that long, but I've never seen a blown call on a "walk off" situation like that - ever. I've seen blown calls that definitely give one team a major advantage, but not one where the results of the call could directly declare a winner.

KCTitus
09-15-2008, 07:53 PM
I've barely been alive that long, but I've never seen a blown call on a "walk off" situation like that - ever. I've seen blown calls that definitely give one team a major advantage, but not one where the results of the call could directly declare a winner.

There's been bad calls on key plays...for so long and it got so bad, that's why instant replay was brought into the game. Ive been waiting for Denver to get their 'come uppance' for years...the Elway years were astonishing...still waiting.

KCTitus
09-15-2008, 07:59 PM
I saw this on nfl.com...Shanahan's comments on the reffing. Yeah, you've gotten so many calls, it's hard to be thankful anymore:

"This was the best crew that we have had in the last 20 crews I have graded," Shanahan said. "They did a heck of a job. Every game that you see that is within a point or a field goal over the last couple years, it may be a call or a non-call that wasn't right, but that is the nature of this game. You have to find a way to win.

"We still had the ball at third-and-10 and had to get it into the end zone. Third-and-10 and then fourth-and-4. We still had to make a 2-point conversion," Shanahan said. "It wasn't like somebody gave us the touchdown. You have to go out there and still get it done."

No, it wasnt like 'somebody' gave you the game, no...they just gave you possession after your QB fumbled which would have meant the END of the game.

Frazod
09-15-2008, 08:03 PM
It always makes me laugh to read about "the fix is in"... there will be plays that go against them this year, it evens out pretty much. Now, that play with the fumble and the blown whistle... it's tough to top that one, but there will be bad calls that go against Denver.

Oh really? Well, WHEN?

We'll all be waiting.

:whackit:

Buck
09-15-2008, 08:05 PM
I just got to see the First Quarter play with Chambers/Bailey.

Chambers was down by contact, so yeah, whoever thinks he wasn't, um...you're dumb.

El Pendejo
09-15-2008, 08:13 PM
Oh really? Well, WHEN?

We'll all be waiting.

:whackit:

Dante Hall kick return for a TD...a grossly obvious block in the back with the ref looking right at it...non-call. But that doesn't count because the Chiefs were the ones getting over.

Officials make mistakes that "cost" teams the game in all sports...for all teams. Not only that...the Dolts could have sacked up...and stopped the Donks on either of two successive plays...but they weren't good enough.

Carolina carried them up and down the field in week one...and they've got a nice excuse coming out of week two. But the fact remains that the only player on their team playing at championship level is Rivers. (We'll see what Sproles does from here on out.)

Buck
09-15-2008, 08:15 PM
Officials make mistakes that "cost" teams the game in all sports...for all teams. Not only that...the Dolts could have sacked up...and stopped the Donks on either of two successive plays...but they weren't good enough.

I dont like that reasoning because we SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO STOP YOU ON 4TH DOWN AND THE 2 PT CONVERSION BECAUSE THE GAME SHOULD HAVE BEEN OVER, AND YOU CANNOT DENY THAT.

LOUD NOISES!!!

Frazod
09-15-2008, 08:17 PM
Dante Hall kick return for a TD...a grossly obvious block in the back with the ref looking right at it...non-call. But that doesn't count because the Chiefs were the ones getting over.

Officials make mistakes that "cost" teams the game in all sports...for all teams. Not only that...the Dolts could have sacked up...and stopped the Donks on either of two successive plays...but they weren't good enough.

Carolina carried them up and down the field in week one...and they've got a nice excuse coming out of week two. But the fact remains that the only player on their team playing at championship level is Rivers. (We'll see what Sproles does from here on out.)

Oh yeah, I was at that game. What a great play. :thumb:

Anything we get over on you is JUSTICE. If one of our receivers went Billy Cole on you scumbags, you'd have it coming. Remember the cooking spray? Anything bad that happens to Denver, ever, they've more than earned.

KCTitus
09-15-2008, 08:24 PM
Dante Hall kick return for a TD...a grossly obvious block in the back with the ref looking right at it...non-call. But that doesn't count because the Chiefs were the ones getting over.

Eh....very close, however, in that play there was no review of the play and the ref acknowledge the fact that there WAS a block in the back and as such because of some dumbass arcane rule award KC the ball on the 10 yard line of Denver. No, there was just a no call...

Denver homers dont want to start comparing non-calls, especially if we count the Elway era. Illegal forward pass non-calls, anyone?

kcfanintitanhell
09-15-2008, 08:29 PM
I love what Boomer said during ESPN halftime show while recapping the game. He said they went for the two points cuz Shanahan was playing with house money anyway....

El Pendejo
09-15-2008, 08:30 PM
Eh....very close, however, in that play there was no review of the play and the ref acknowledge the fact that there WAS a block in the back and as such because of some dumbass arcane rule award KC the ball on the 10 yard line of Denver. No, there was just a no call...

Denver homers dont want to start comparing non-calls, especially if we count the Elway era. Illegal forward pass non-calls, anyone?

You know what...I remember that game. Elway was at least a full yard over the line of scrimmage. When the Donks get over I giggle and enjoy it...because they do get screwed to.

The rule isn't arcane. It makes sense. When the whistle blows the play is dead. It's not the Donks fault that Hochuli wasn't in position to make the proper call. Replay showed Hochuli wave the pass incomplete...and he was man enough to admit his mistake.

Mr. Flopnuts
09-15-2008, 08:33 PM
You know what...I remember that game. Elway was at least a full yard over the line of scrimmage. When the Donks get over I giggle and enjoy it...because they do get screwed to.

The rule isn't arcane. It makes sense. When the whistle blows the play is dead. It's not the Donks fault that Hochuli wasn't in position to make the proper call. Replay showed Hochuli wave the pass incomplete...and he was man enough to admit his mistake.

And I'm sure these would be your exact words had the shoe been on the other foot.

Buck
09-15-2008, 08:35 PM
And I'm sure these would be your exact words had the shoe been on the other foot.

It was 100% called correctly after the fact, but the fact that it wasn't called right in the first place is a travesty.

El Pendejo
09-15-2008, 08:35 PM
Oh yeah, I was at that game. What a great play. :thumb:

Anything we get over on you is JUSTICE. If one of our receivers went Billy Cole on you scumbags, you'd have it coming. Remember the cooking spray? Anything bad that happens to Denver, ever, they've more than earned.

It never takes more than a few seconds for Chiefs fans to invoke the cooking spray excuse. Forget the fact that the Donks out hit the Chiefs in that game, and playoffs Marty choked. Hah! Anytime I hear KC fans whine about cooking spray I giggle.

I admit I don't get the Billy Cole reference...I just hope know one goes Dale Carter on Lionel Washington.

KCTitus
09-15-2008, 08:39 PM
You know what...I remember that game. Elway was at least a full yard over the line of scrimmage. When the Donks get over I giggle and enjoy it...because they do get screwed to.

The rule isn't arcane. It makes sense. When the whistle blows the play is dead. It's not the Donks fault that Hochuli wasn't in position to make the proper call. Replay showed Hochuli wave the pass incomplete...and he was man enough to admit his mistake.

Game? Try GameSSSSUHHH....

Yeah, it's an arcane rule...inadvertant whistle is BS. It's cover for the Ref's when the crap the bed.

He shouldnt have made the call, because precisely, he wasnt in position.
When did league make it ok for referee's to make the call when they werent in position?

Buck
09-15-2008, 08:40 PM
The Donkey's were +1.5 Dogs yesterday, I know that Mr. Ed had a fix on it.

El Pendejo
09-15-2008, 08:41 PM
And I'm sure these would be your exact words had the shoe been on the other foot.

I don't know. Generally I only stay pissed/irritated for 30 to 45 minutes after the game.

What's awesome is how you people act like Denver has never been screwed, or your team(s) has never been the beneficiary of a bs call. Whatever. The Donks still had to put the rock in the endzone twice (running the same play), and stop the Dolts from kicking a field goal. Cripes. Jay Cutler is a sadist for throwing that pick.

Altough...I'm pretty sure on the first play after the 2pt conversion...Chambers was running free and Hochuli tripped him.

RedNeckRaider
09-15-2008, 08:41 PM
You guys got screwed for sure! Them Broncos just flat out piched us a beating! I am not sure which hurts worse. Atleast your teams know they should have won.

Frazod
09-15-2008, 08:41 PM
It never takes more than a few seconds for Chiefs fans to invoke the cooking spray excuse. Forget the fact that the Donks out hit the Chiefs in that game, and playoffs Marty choked. Hah! Anytime I hear KC fans whine about cooking spray I giggle.

I admit I don't get the Billy Cole reference...I just hope know one goes Dale Carter on Lionel Washington.

Yeah, I'll bet you giggle a lot, don't you?

I always love the way you cocksucking trolls gloss gross cheating over with horseshit excuses. But that's fine - the most despicable organization in professional sports certainly deserves fans like you.

El Pendejo
09-15-2008, 08:42 PM
The Donkey's were +1.5 Dogs yesterday, I know that Mr. Ed had a fix on it.

Hah!

OnTheWarpath58
09-15-2008, 08:42 PM
I don't know. Generally I only stay pissed/irritated for 30 to 45 minutes after the game.

What's awesome is how you people act like Denver has never been screwed, or your team(s) has never been the beneficiary of a bs call. Whatever. The Donks still had to put the rock in the endzone twice (running the same play), and stop the Dolts from kicking a field goal. Cripes. Jay Cutler is a sadist for throwing that pick.

Altough...I'm pretty sure on the first play after the 2pt conversion...Chambers was running free and Hochuli tripped him.

ROFL

El Pendejo
09-15-2008, 08:47 PM
Yeah, I'll bet you giggle a lot, don't you?

I always love the way you cocksucking trolls gloss gross cheating over with horseshit excuses. But that's fine - the most despicable organization in professional sports certainly deserves fans like you.

How am I trolling? This is in reality a Donks thread. I completely understand Chiefs fan's hatred of Denver...heck...all you have to do is look at both team's histories over the past 30 years to understand it.

I know the Donks got a favorable call yesterday...all I've said is that all teams get them. The Donks just took full advantage of theirs.

Have the Chiefs ever benefited from a ref's **** up? Clearly you're saying they haven't.

KCTitus
09-15-2008, 08:49 PM
Have the Chiefs ever benefited from a ref's **** up? Clearly you're saying they haven't.

They dont F! up in KC's favor...not to the degree that they do for Denver.

El Pendejo
09-15-2008, 08:57 PM
They dont F! up in KC's favor...not to the degree that they do for Denver.

Not to the degree they do for Denver? Will you list all of these calls that the Donks get? As many as you'd like...not including yesterday's Hochuli mistake though...that's too easy.

Frazod
09-15-2008, 09:02 PM
Not to the degree they do for Denver? Will you list all of these calls that the Donks get? As many as you'd like...not including yesterday's Hochuli mistake though...that's too easy.

When the opposing team's blatant, obvious, inexcusable cheating is a key factor in Denver being knocked out of the playoffs, and that team goes on to win the Super Bowl, check back with me.

El Pendejo
09-15-2008, 09:05 PM
When the opposing team's blatant, obvious, inexcusable cheating is a key factor in Denver being knocked out of the playoffs, and that team goes on to win the Super Bowl, check back with me.

Ok. Will do! :thumb: You do the same when it happens to KC.

Fish
09-15-2008, 09:09 PM
I've always liked this pic
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/buyingguy/jcutlerstonedgl61.jpg

I photoshopped that.... down to the red lines in the eyes... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4009696&postcount=15

ChiefsLV
09-15-2008, 09:12 PM
you arent gonna search? why not? I HAVENT BASHED THE CHARGERS AT ALL.
no you can see him cupping his hands to his mouth yelling at cutler. who cares about "supposedly"? prove it. then MAYBE rivers would have a reason to be a bitch

Rivers is known for this taunting shit. He did it in the playoff game against the Colts last season... classless.

All this sucking up to our AFC west rivals by you guys is making me sick. Grow a pair. I don't care if our team sucks shit. The Chargers, Raiders, and Broncos all suck period.

Taco John
09-15-2008, 09:16 PM
Never seen Denver lose in that fashion...in over 25 years...ever.

Certainly not against the Chiefs and Dante Hall...

I'd be offended at your ridiculous assertion if I didn't know that it's all made out of jealousy from you.

ta900
09-15-2008, 09:16 PM
Unfriggenbelievable is what it was. Why is it that The Donx are always on the beneficial end of this shit? To say you don't have replay when they were all watching it just because the Donx don't want to show it to the refs is complete BS. The Cutler call I don't even have words for. The fix was in BIG TIME in this game.

What a load of a BS. It's easy to look the other way when it's your team that gets the benefit, but it wasn't too long ago when Dante Hall returned a punt against the Broncos for a TD and there were two blatant block in the backs that went uncalled and the Chiefs then barely won. It happens to all teams where bad calls hurt you and help you. Luckily for Denver they helped this week.

Buck
09-15-2008, 09:17 PM
What a load of a BS. It's easy to look the other way when it's your team that gets the benefit, but it wasn't too long ago when Dante Hall returned a punt against the Broncos for a TD and there were two blatant block in the backs that went uncalled and the Chiefs then barely won. It happens to all teams where bad calls hurt you and help you. Luckily for Denver they helped this week.

A block in the back is not as bad as what happened yesterday.

A crucial call at the end of the game, when the Ref was not 10 yards away, I cant get over this.

Taco John
09-15-2008, 09:18 PM
I just got to see the First Quarter play with Chambers/Bailey.

Chambers was down by contact, so yeah, whoever thinks he wasn't, um...you're dumb.

He was down by contact - the problem is, he hadn't actually caught the ball at that point. He didn't have control. The only time a player got control was when Baily finally secured the ball. There was not enough evidence on the tape to reverse that call.

Buck
09-15-2008, 09:20 PM
He was down by contact - the problem is, he hadn't actually caught the ball at that point. He didn't have control. The only time a player got control was when Baily finally secured the ball. There was not enough evidence on the tape to reverse that call.

Uh, ok....

How can you say that if they didn't even review it?

Taco John
09-15-2008, 09:21 PM
I dont like that reasoning because we SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO STOP YOU ON 4TH DOWN AND THE 2 PT CONVERSION BECAUSE THE GAME SHOULD HAVE BEEN OVER, AND YOU CANNOT DENY THAT.

LOUD NOISES!!!



Guess what? You guys had a chance to shut us out of the endzone and walk away winners. But for the second week in a row, your defense choked and let a team into the endzone at game point. Cry all you want about how you shouldn't have been in that position. That's not going to change the fact that you guys gave up 18 catches to Brandon Marshall and then choked on the 2 point attempt allowing a rookie to navigate the endzone and put you away.

Buck
09-15-2008, 09:22 PM
Guess what? You guys had a chance to shut us out of the endzone and walk away winners. But for the second week in a row, your defense choked and let a team into the endzone at game point. Cry all you want about how you shouldn't have been in that position. That's not going to change the fact that you guys gave up 18 catches to Brandon Marshall and then choked on the 2 point attempt allowing a rookie to navigate the endzone and put you away.

Just read the post you quoted again, thats my stance on the issue.

Taco John
09-15-2008, 09:22 PM
Uh, ok....

How can you say that if they didn't even review it?

Anyone can say that. All they have to do is know the rules. He had one arm on the ground, and one arm trying to secure the football against his waist, with Champ Bailey vying for possession. Chambers had not secured the football and then made a football move. The ball was not caught until Bailey came up with it, which was essentially the ruling on the field. There was not enough evidence to overturn that call.

Taco John
09-15-2008, 09:23 PM
Just read the post you quoted again, thats my stance on the issue.



Read the scoreboard. That's my stance on the issue.

Frazod
09-15-2008, 09:23 PM
Give it up, BK. You're arguing guilt or innocence with O.J. Simpson.

Buck
09-15-2008, 09:26 PM
Ok, Im done I guess.

El Pendejo
09-15-2008, 09:28 PM
Give it up, BK. You're arguing guilt or innocence with O.J. Simpson.

Hah! That's outstanding.

ta900
09-15-2008, 09:30 PM
A block in the back is not as bad as what happened yesterday.

A crucial call at the end of the game, when the Ref was not 10 yards away, I cant get over this.

Yeah right that's easy as hell for you to say, the fact was there was a few minutes left in that game and not 1 but two blatant block in the backs happened that actually DIRECTLY gave the Chiefs a TD because he scored on that exact same play, at least the Chargers had a few chances to still stop the Broncos and win after the bad call. It's easy to say its the worst for you when it goes against YOUR team.

El Pendejo
09-15-2008, 09:30 PM
I photoshopped that.... down to the red lines in the eyes...

Great work! I believe Cutler was voted the athlete who looks most stoned or something to that effect by High Times magazine.

morphius
09-15-2008, 09:31 PM
Uh, ok....

How can you say that if they didn't even review it?
Because the bronco's can do no wrong and don't get breaks, it is just the way it is meant to be. While most the other Denver fans are saying that you got screwed, Taco is hearing calling the ruling right, just as he called all the rulings in their last playoff game right, just as he ignores the shot right in the back of Williams knees while he was standing around by Shannon Sharpe right before DT tried to rip his head off.

Taco John
09-15-2008, 09:31 PM
You're right about one thing. I sure don't feel the least bit guilty about this win. Perhaps if Brandon Marshall hadn't turned Cromartie into his personal wheelbarrow to the endzone all game long, I'd feel bad. Perhaps if Shanahan didn't give them the opportunity to keep us out of the endzone, only to see a rookie get the best of their so-called Superbowl-ready defense, I'd feel bad.

We'd have made the playoffs two years ago if the refs didn't blow two key calls in the Sanfrancisco game. We had damn near the same call we saw yesterday go against us vs. Chicago last year.

San Diego is 0-2, not because of the refs, but because their defense doesn't have what it takes to keep the enzone clear in the closing seconds of the game.

morphius
09-15-2008, 09:33 PM
Originally Posted by El Pendejo http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5023472#post5023472)
It never takes more than a few seconds for Chiefs fans to invoke the cooking spray excuse. Forget the fact that the Donks out hit the Chiefs in that game, and playoffs Marty choked. Hah! Anytime I hear KC fans whine about cooking spray I giggle.
Forget the fact that if there was a replay the Chiefs that TD by Gonzo would have counted near the end?

OnTheWarpath58
09-15-2008, 09:36 PM
You're right about one thing. I sure don't feel the least bit guilty about this win. Perhaps if Brandon Marshall hadn't turned Cromartie into his personal wheelbarrow to the endzone all game long, I'd feel bad. Perhaps if Shanahan didn't give them the opportunity to keep us out of the endzone, only to see a rookie get the best of their so-called Superbowl-ready defense, I'd feel bad.

We'd have made the playoffs two years ago if the refs didn't blow two key calls in the Sanfrancisco game. We had damn near the same call we saw yesterday go against us vs. Chicago last year.

San Diego is 0-2, not because of the refs, but because their defense doesn't have what it takes to keep the enzone clear in the closing seconds of the game.

Dear God,

Please forgive me for agreeing with Taco John.

Taco John
09-15-2008, 09:36 PM
Because the bronco's can do no wrong and don't get breaks, it is just the way it is meant to be. While most the other Denver fans are saying that you got screwed, Taco is hearing calling the ruling right, just as he called all the rulings in their last playoff game right, just as he ignores the shot right in the back of Williams knees while he was standing around by Shannon Sharpe right before DT tried to rip his head off.



I did call the ruling right, because it was right. The call itself was wrong, but I can see why he missed it. It looked like a classic tuck rule situation when happening in real time. But once he made the judgement that it was an incomeplete pass, he blew the whistle. That's it. Play over. It's unreviewable after that point. Everybody knows this. It's taught that way from pop-warner all the way to the pros. Once the whistle blows, the play is dead and no one else gets hit. It's never going to be changed. There is no way to 'fix' it because it's about safety.

He got the call wrong, but he got the ruling right. We benefitted from it. It's about damn time. We've been on the raw end of those kinds of calls for the better part of a decade, if you ask a Broncos fan. I sure don't feel guilty about it, especially considering they had the opportunity to stop us from putting up the go ahead 2 pointer for the win.

Buck
09-15-2008, 09:39 PM
Yeah right that's easy as hell for you to say, the fact was there was a few minutes left in that game and not 1 but two blatant block in the backs happened that actually DIRECTLY gave the Chiefs a TD because he scored on that exact same play, at least the Chargers had a few chances to still stop the Broncos and win after the bad call. It's easy to say its the worst for you when it goes against YOUR team.

Well I remember that play very clearly, and excuse me if I am wrong, but if I can just borrow your reasoning for a second. You had 9 other guys who could have tackled him, and If I remember correctly, there were 2 missed tackles on the play, and also the Denver Coverage team was completely out of their lanes. When a Kick Returner dances around for 10 seconds, he should not be able to return that, block in the back or not.

Frazod
09-15-2008, 09:39 PM
You're right about one thing. I sure don't feel the least bit guilty about this win. Perhaps if Brandon Marshall hadn't turned Cromartie into his personal wheelbarrow to the endzone all game long, I'd feel bad. Perhaps if Shanahan didn't give them the opportunity to keep us out of the endzone, only to see a rookie get the best of their so-called Superbowl-ready defense, I'd feel bad.

We'd have made the playoffs two years ago if the refs didn't blow two key calls in the Sanfrancisco game. We had damn near the same call we saw yesterday go against us vs. Chicago last year.

San Diego is 0-2, not because of the refs, but because their defense doesn't have what it takes to keep the enzone clear in the closing seconds of the game.

Actually, in this instance, the Donx thieving despicable shit actually worked in my favor, since I put high points on them in the pool. Game in Denver+thin air+bought refs = Donx win.

And as always, your sorry-ass justifications are good for a laugh. :thumb:

Taco John
09-15-2008, 09:40 PM
Actually, in this instance, the Donx thieving despicable shit actually worked in my favor, since I put high points on them in the pool. Game in Denver+thin air+bought refs = Donx win.

And as always, your sorry-ass justifications are good for a laugh. :thumb:

Bet the over in Denver games this year. It's free money with this particular offense coupled with this particular defense. It's the closest thing to a free money machine that you'll ever find.

Taco John
09-15-2008, 09:42 PM
...not to mention, apparently there is a league-wide conspiracy to give Denver wins. I'm not sure why people like you and Titus aren't butt-****king rich given your knowledge of this plot.

OnTheWarpath58
09-15-2008, 09:42 PM
Bet the over in Denver games this year. It's free money with this particular offense coupled with this particular defense. It's the closest thing to a free money machine that you'll ever find.

This.

Buck
09-15-2008, 09:42 PM
I did call the ruling right, because it was right. The call itself was wrong, but I can see why he missed it. It looked like a classic tuck rule situation when happening in real time. But once he made the judgement that it was an incomeplete pass, he blew the whistle. That's it. Play over. It's unreviewable after that point. Everybody knows this. It's taught that way from pop-warner all the way to the pros. Once the whistle blows, the play is dead and no one else gets hit. It's never going to be changed. There is no way to 'fix' it because it's about safety.

He got the call wrong, but he got the ruling right. We benefitted from it. It's about damn time. We've been on the raw end of those kinds of calls for the better part of a decade, if you ask a Broncos fan. I sure don't feel guilty about it, especially considering they had the opportunity to stop us from putting up the go ahead 2 pointer for the win.

You are 100% correct with this statement. I am not arguing anymore, so just hear me out.

The whistle actually didnt blow until right about when the Chargers LB had it, but it may have been a couple seconds before.

Both Jay Cutler and Tim Dobbins continued at 100% effort even after the whistle had blown. That is why the NFL is likely to come up with some kind of rule change this offseason.

You won the game, thats in the books, but you cannot deny that in a game where the Chargers did not get one bounce their way, until that play, it is shitty for the Chargers fans to get that taken away from them.

ta900
09-15-2008, 09:44 PM
Well I remember that play very clearly, and excuse me if I am wrong, but if I can just borrow your reasoning for a second. You had 9 other guys who could have tackled him, and If I remember correctly, there were 2 missed tackles on the play, and also the Denver Coverage team was completely out of their lanes. When a Kick Returner dances around for 10 seconds, he should not be able to return that, block in the back or not.

Yeah and the Chargers had 2 chances after the bad call, they had two drives earlier that ended up as FG's right down near the endzone. The Chargers had plenty of other plays and drives that they themselves screwed up, not to mention the 2 minute march down the field to give denver another TD right before half.

Frazod
09-15-2008, 09:47 PM
...not to mention, apparently there is a league-wide conspiracy to give Denver wins. I'm not sure why people like you and Titus aren't butt-****king rich given your knowledge of this plot.

Well, it's only one game a week, and besides, the bought refs-shit only works in close games.

Taco John
09-15-2008, 09:48 PM
You are 100% correct with this statement. I am not arguing anymore, so just hear me out.

The whistle actually didnt blow until right about when the Chargers LB had it, but it may have been a couple seconds before.

Both Jay Cutler and Tim Dobbins continued at 100% effort even after the whistle had blown. That is why the NFL is likely to come up with some kind of rule change this offseason.

You won the game, thats in the books, but you cannot deny that in a game where the Chargers did not get one bounce their way, until that play, it is shitty for the Chargers fans to get that taken away from them.


No they won't. They're not going to come up with a rule change. There absolutely no way to do it. You can't ask refs to guage whether a player is giving 100% effort or not after a whistle has blown. It's impossible.
You can't tell who's letting up, and who is not when EVERYONE is supposed to let up after the whistle. This rule will never change.

Taco John
09-15-2008, 09:49 PM
Well, it's only one game a week, and besides, the bought refs-shit only works in close games.



I wish we'd have had a lot more close games the last few years then. :lame:

Buck
09-15-2008, 09:49 PM
Yeah and the Chargers had 2 chances after the bad call, they had two drives earlier that ended up as FG's right down near the endzone. The Chargers had plenty of other plays and drives that they themselves screwed up, not to mention the 2 minute march down the field to give denver another TD right before half.

Thats why I was discrediting your comparison because it shouldn't have mattered, right?

Taco John
09-15-2008, 09:50 PM
Thats why I was discrediting your comparison because it shouldn't have mattered, right?

But it did. Perhaps that's why your players couldn't stop Eddie Royal... They were too busy mentally defeated thinking that this play shouldn't be happening...

Buck
09-15-2008, 09:52 PM
No they won't. They're not going to come up with a rule change. There absolutely no way to do it. You can't ask refs to guage whether a player is giving 100% effort or not after a whistle has blown. It's impossible.
You can't tell who's letting up, and who is not when EVERYONE is supposed to let up after the whistle. This rule will never change.

I'm sure it will, just like the down by contact rule.

Before they changed the rule prior to last season, if they ruled a player down by contact and the whistle had blown, the play was over, the offense keeps the ball.

The change made it so that even if the player was ruled down by contact, and the whistle had blown, if it was reviewed and determined that the fumble came before the whistle, the defense would get possesion, but any return of the fumble after the whistle had blown would be nullified.

If they used the same theory in this situation, the Chargers would have been rewarded possession at the spot in which Dobbins recovered the ball, but the extra 5 yards he picked up would not have been granted.

ta900
09-15-2008, 09:53 PM
Thats why I was discrediting your comparison because it shouldn't have mattered, right?

I know but the whole reason I brought that play up in the first place is because trust me I know how it feels to go into a division rivals place and have it feel like it was stolen away. It sucks but it happens and yes I admit I'm glad the Broncos were on the good end of that yesterday.

Frazod
09-15-2008, 09:54 PM
I wish we'd have had a lot more close games the last few years then. :lame:

Yeah, it is lame. With all the cheating you guys really should have had much more success over the past decade.

orange
09-15-2008, 10:06 PM
When the opposing team's blatant, obvious, inexcusable cheating is a key factor in Denver being knocked out of the playoffs, and that team goes on to win the Super Bowl, check back with me.

Super Bowl, Denver vs. Washington. Redskins QB Doug Williams takes the snap, drops back, trips over his own feet, drops the ball, Denver recovers...

...BUT WAIT! The refs rule "Williams gave himself up." Play dead, Redskins ball.


Super Bowl, Denver vs. NY Giants. Throwing from deep in their own territory, Elway completes a pass to his Tight End for a first down...

... BUT WAIT! The refs call it incomplete. It goes to the replay booth for review... but the clock doesn't stop and the Broncos are forced to run a play. The play results in a safety - and the replay booth announces the original pass WAS COMPLETE... but it's too late. The Safety stands.


AFC Playoffs, Denver vs. Kansas City (yes, that same game). Chiefs punt, ball CLEARLY bounces in the endzone, but it's called dead at the one-yard line. Of course, in THAT GAME the Broncos overcame that travesty and WON instead of crying about it for the next decade+.


Good enough for you?

Frazod
09-15-2008, 10:11 PM
Super Bowl, Denver vs. Washington. Redskins QB Doug Williams takes the snap, drops back, trips over his own feet, drops the ball, Denver recovers...

...BUT WAIT! The refs rule "Williams gave himself up." Play dead, Redskins ball.


Super Bowl, Denver vs. NY Giants. Throwing from deep in their own territory, Elway completes a pass to his Tight End for a first down...

... BUT WAIT! The refs call it incomplete. It goes to the replay booth for review... but the clock doesn't stop and the Broncos are forced to run a play. The play results in a safety - and the replay booth announces the original pass WAS COMPLETE... but it's too late. The Safety stands.


AFC Playoffs, Denver vs. Kansas City (yes, that same game). Chiefs punt, ball CLEARLY bounces in the endzone, but it's called dead at the one-yard line. Of course, in THAT GAME the Broncos overcame that travesty and WON instead of crying about it for the next decade+.


Good enough for you?

No, dickhead, it isn't.

Deliberate illegal application of a foreign substance to the uniforms of your players IN THE LOCKER ROOM BEFORE THE GAME does not equate with a blown call.

Buck
09-15-2008, 10:12 PM
Super Bowl, Denver vs. Washington. Redskins QB Doug Williams takes the snap, drops back, trips over his own feet, drops the ball, Denver recovers...

...BUT WAIT! The refs rule "Williams gave himself up." Play dead, Redskins ball.


Super Bowl, Denver vs. NY Giants. Throwing from deep in their own territory, Elway completes a pass to his Tight End for a first down...

... BUT WAIT! The refs call it incomplete. It goes to the replay booth for review... but the clock doesn't stop and the Broncos are forced to run a play. The play results in a safety - and the replay booth announces the original pass WAS COMPLETE... but it's too late. The Safety stands.


AFC Playoffs, Denver vs. Kansas City (yes, that same game). Chiefs punt, ball CLEARLY bounces in the endzone, but it's called dead at the one-yard line. Of course, in THAT GAME the Broncos overcame that travesty and WON instead of crying about it for the next decade+.


Good enough for you?


Final Score, Super Bowl XXII - Washington 42 - Denver 10

Final Score, Super Bowl XXI - NYG 39 - Denver 20

Final Score, Chiefs vs. Denver Playoff Game - Denver 14 - KC 10

Final Score, Chargers vs. Denver week 2 - Denver 39 - SD 38

The first 2 instances happened in blowouts, the latter 2 were in way closer games.

orange
09-15-2008, 10:16 PM
Neither of those Super Bowls were blowouts till after the horrible calls. Especially that Giant game was winnable.

And when the calls were made, the Refs DIDN"T KNOW they were going to be blowouts - OR DID THEY?!

As for the "illegal substance" - THERE WASN'T ANY!

Marty's complaint was that there was TOO MUCH - that's why the refs just had the Broncos towel off. There were - as I recall - NO PENALTIES CALLED AND NO FINES.

Or do I misremember?

Frazod
09-15-2008, 10:21 PM
Neither of those Super Bowls were blowouts till after the horrible calls. Especially that Giant game was winnable.

And when the calls were made, the Refs DIDN"T KNOW they were going to be blowouts - OR DID THEY?!

As for the "illegal substance" - THERE WASN'T ANY!

Marty's complaint was that there was TOO MUCH - that's why the refs just had the Broncos towel off. There were - as I recall - NO PENALTIES CALLED AND NO FINES.

Or do I misremember?

There wasn't any? That's rich.

Yes, I'm aware there were no penalties and no fines. The ref$ were in the Rat's pocket from the time the game started until it was over.

Keep on trying to rewrite history though. Maybe you can grow a soul as well.

orange
09-15-2008, 10:25 PM
There wasn't any? That's rich.

Yes, I'm aware there were no penalties and no fines. The ref$ were in the Rat's pocket from the time the game started until it was over.

Keep on trying to rewrite history though. Maybe you can grow a soul as well.

ROFL

El Pendejo
09-15-2008, 10:27 PM
There wasn't any? That's rich.

Yes, I'm aware there were no penalties and no fines. The ref$ were in the Rat's pocket from the time the game started until it was over.

Keep on trying to rewrite history though. Maybe you can grow a soul as well.

**** you with your the refs were/are in the Rat's pockets nonsense. The Chiefs haven't won anything because they're a piss poor franchise.

There is absolutely no basis to your allegations aside from the fact that THE BRONCOS RULE ALL!!!

orange
09-15-2008, 10:30 PM
The material was legal - the Broncos just had too much of it on their uniforms - kind of like THIS:

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Frazod
09-15-2008, 10:30 PM
**** you with your the refs were/are in the Rat's pockets nonsense. The Chiefs haven't won anything because they're a piss poor franchise.

There is absolutely no basis to your allegations aside from the fact that THE BRONCOS RULE ALL!!!

That's funny, Stink has admitted to it and laughed about on the air at ESPN. It's documented. It's common knowledge - has been since it happened. No matter how many degenerate inbred trolls crawl out of the mountains and deny it, that won't change what happened.

easymobee
09-15-2008, 10:30 PM
Chargers fans are hilarious.


If the same thing happened going the other way and they benefited, it would be a non-issue and im sure they wouldn't be talking about petitions and the such in that case.

I also don't remember Chargers fans mourning for the Raiders when the the tuck rule game happened, yet they want the whole football world to feel sorry for them.

The non-stop implosion and fallout at SignonSanDiego.com is wonderful.

Im glad the game ended w/ the controversy it did. It just twists the knife that extra little hard.

The way a lot of you Chief fans are jumping on their pity wagon is wonderfully disgusting.

Go Jets! 0-3

Frazod
09-15-2008, 10:33 PM
Wow, this thread is like ringing the dinner bell for every dickhead Donx troll on the internet. Where are BelowAverage and LB52?

easymobee
09-15-2008, 10:33 PM
That's funny, Stink has admitted to it and laughed about on the air at ESPN. It's documented. It's common knowledge - has been since it happened. No matter how many degenerate inbred trolls crawl out of the mountains and deny it, that won't change what happened.

Do you cringe with anger when you pass the cooking spray display at the grocery store?

Does it haunt you?

has it changed your shopping experience?

Moobs
09-15-2008, 10:35 PM
The cellar dwellars swinging on our nuts. Hang on tight!

Frazod
09-15-2008, 10:35 PM
Do you cringe with anger when you pass the cooking spray display at the grocery store?

Does it haunt you?

No. I'd rather take the loss than win by being a cheating pussy.

Buck
09-15-2008, 10:35 PM
Chargers fans are hilarious.


If the same thing happened going the other way and they benefited, it would be a non-issue and im sure they wouldn't be talking about petitions and the such in that case.

I also don't remember Chargers fans mourning for the Raiders when the the tuck rule game happened, yet they want the whole football world to feel sorry for them.

The non-stop implosion and fallout at SignonSanDiego.com is wonderful.

Im glad the game ended w/ the controversy it did. It just twists the knife that extra little hard.

The way a lot of you Chief fans are jumping on their pity wagon is wonderfully disgusting.

Go Jets! 0-3

True, but had our roles been reversed, youd be complaining too.

Frazod
09-15-2008, 10:36 PM
The cellar dwellars swinging on our nuts. Hang on tight!

And here I just thought you were Ari's handpuppet, but you end up being a Donx troll. How cute.

Grow some nuts first, sweetie.

Moobs
09-15-2008, 10:37 PM
And here I just thought you were Ari's handpuppet, but you end up being a Donx troll. How cute.

Grow some nuts first, sweetie.

Freshen up my coffee.

Frazod
09-15-2008, 10:38 PM
Freshen up my coffee.

I'll have my secretary get you some after you get done cleaning the shitters, lowlife.

orange
09-15-2008, 10:39 PM
True, but had our roles been reversed, youd be complaining too.

Oh, I'll agree with that - but you understand from MY post why my sympathy for you is somewhat limited, don't you?

Moobs
09-15-2008, 10:45 PM
As I've stated in another thread, obviously it was a fumble. It was a bad break. Shit happens. Eight points were scored after this bad break. Your team failed to man up when confronted with some adversity. I hope the actually Charger players are dwelling on this as much as the Charger fans and their new BFFs Chief fans.

The exact same play happened in the Bears/Broncos game last year. Our player (Abdullah I believe) had picked up the fumble and had a clear path to the endzone, but it wasn't to be. You haven't heard much hubbub about that play, have you? Most of you probably don't even know it happened. There certainly wasn't an uproar about it. I was more pissed we couldn't stop Devin freakin' Hester and gave the game away. But life goes on.

El Pendejo
09-15-2008, 10:48 PM
That's funny, Stink has admitted to it and laughed about on the air at ESPN. It's documented. It's common knowledge - has been since it happened. No matter how many degenerate inbred trolls crawl out of the mountains and deny it, that won't change what happened.

Document it with a link bitch.

Then look at the box score of that game...and tell me what you see.

Funny how the only people whining about greased jerseys on the Donks o-line are chiefs fans. Did Jacksonville complain...did the Steelers...did Green Bay? No...only the panty waste fans from KANSAS CITY!!!

easymobee
09-15-2008, 10:54 PM
apparently the bad call sent LT's wife into tears .....

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20080915-1549-fbn-chargers-turner.html


LaDainian Tomlinson, slowed by a jammed right big toe, said the Chargers weren't the only ones bothered by the call.

“I don't know if there's any way you can work around it in your mind, it's just point-blank to me just a missed call,” Tomlinson said. “You know, so many people are affected by it. That's the thing that's most disappointing. Because it's not just us, it's our families, it's the fans.

“Prime example: I call my wife after the game and she had been crying, all because of this call. It happens, but, you know, it's huge. That's a big play because they all realize how much we put into it, and that was the one thing she was talking about was how much heart this team had showed and was fighting back, and won the game. Had the game won and to have the game taken away from you, it was tough.”

Nonetheless, the Chargers know they have to move on.

Frazod
09-15-2008, 10:59 PM
Document it with a link bitch.

Then look at the box score of that game...and tell me what you see.

Funny how the only people whining about greased jerseys on the Donks o-line are chiefs fans. Did Jacksonville complain...did the Steelers...did Green Bay? No...only the panty waste fans from KANSAS CITY!!!

That's funny, a trolling little pussy calling ANYBODY else a bitch. F#ck you and the rest of your sorority sisters stinking up this thread and this BB. Sorry I didn't have tape in the VCR when Stink was bragging about being a cheating piece of shit, but I did hear him say it. And do you really think I'm going to dig around for 10 year old articles talking about something that was generally hushed up even at the time? I don't even need to. You know what they did, and so does everybody else.

All it takes to flush you turds is a couple of Donx losses, and I'm sure those will be upcoming soon. Sure we suck this year, but you can't play us and the Raiders and steal games from San Diego every week.

Taco John
09-15-2008, 11:14 PM
apparently the bad call sent LT's wife into tears .....

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20080915-1549-fbn-chargers-turner.html


LaDainian Tomlinson, slowed by a jammed right big toe, said the Chargers weren't the only ones bothered by the call.

“I don't know if there's any way you can work around it in your mind, it's just point-blank to me just a missed call,” Tomlinson said. “You know, so many people are affected by it. That's the thing that's most disappointing. Because it's not just us, it's our families, it's the fans.

“Prime example: I call my wife after the game and she had been crying, all because of this call. It happens, but, you know, it's huge. That's a big play because they all realize how much we put into it, and that was the one thing she was talking about was how much heart this team had showed and was fighting back, and won the game. Had the game won and to have the game taken away from you, it was tough.”

Nonetheless, the Chargers know they have to move on.


Chargers fans mourn the loss:

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easymobee
09-15-2008, 11:24 PM
That's funny, a trolling little pussy calling ANYBODY else a bitch. F#ck you and the rest of your sorority sisters stinking up this thread and this BB. Sorry I didn't have tape in the VCR when Stink was bragging about being a cheating piece of shit, but I did hear him say it. And do you really think I'm going to dig around for 10 year old articles talking about something that was generally hushed up even at the time? I don't even need to. You know what they did, and so does everybody else.

All it takes to flush you turds is a couple of Donx losses, and I'm sure those will be upcoming soon. Sure we suck this year, but you can't play us and the Raiders and steal games from San Diego every week.

Let it all out .....

I'd feel bad too if my favorite team had a 4 headed monster of Tyler Thigpen, Brodie Croyle, Damon Huard, and Marques Hagans at QB and all 4 had thrown a pass by week 2 of the regular season.

Vent. Serenity now. Hoochie Mama!

TREX
09-15-2008, 11:27 PM
Eh....very close, however, in that play there was no review of the play and the ref acknowledge the fact that there WAS a block in the back and as such because of some dumbass arcane rule award KC the ball on the 10 yard line of Denver. No, there was just a no call...

Denver homers dont want to start comparing non-calls, especially if we count the Elway era. Illegal forward pass non-calls, anyone?
Those passes thrown from 3 yards beyond the line of scrimmage killed teams. Dont know why they allowed it so often. I have heard that Bowlin has deep pockets.

ClevelandBronco
09-15-2008, 11:30 PM
Cutler reminds me of the slightly overweight kid at the bus-stop. You know the one w/ the snotty-nose and half of the snot has dried to a few crisps? You know the one, ---- well, him...

I know exactly what you mean. He reminds me of a top five QB with an arm of gold that can lay 40 points on two division teams in a row.

Then again, maybe that's not what you meant.

Buck
09-15-2008, 11:34 PM
Chargers fans mourn the loss:

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Still waiting on your reply to my explanation of a rule change, the one you said that never could happen.

ClevelandBronco
09-15-2008, 11:34 PM
That's funny, a trolling little pussy calling ANYBODY else a bitch. F#ck you and the rest of your sorority sisters stinking up this thread and this BB. Sorry I didn't have tape in the VCR when Stink was bragging about being a cheating piece of shit, but I did hear him say it. And do you really think I'm going to dig around for 10 year old articles talking about something that was generally hushed up even at the time? I don't even need to. You know what they did, and so does everybody else.

All it takes to flush you turds is a couple of Donx losses, and I'm sure those will be upcoming soon. Sure we suck this year, but you can't play us and the Raiders and steal games from San Diego every week.

Does it help at all that I'm a Gary Pinkel fan from the days he played tight end at Kent State?

Buck
09-15-2008, 11:36 PM
As I've stated in another thread, obviously it was a fumble. It was a bad break. Shit happens. Eight points were scored after this bad break. Your team failed to man up when confronted with some adversity. I hope the actually Charger players are dwelling on this as much as the Charger fans and their new BFFs Chief fans.

The exact same play happened in the Bears/Broncos game last year. Our player (Abdullah I believe) had picked up the fumble and had a clear path to the endzone, but it wasn't to be. You haven't heard much hubbub about that play, have you? Most of you probably don't even know it happened. There certainly wasn't an uproar about it. I was more pissed we couldn't stop Devin freakin' Hester and gave the game away. But life goes on.

Maybe if the call had happened and the Broncos got the ball on the fifty, it would have been easier.

However, when you give a team that should have lost a shot to win on the 10 yard line, its really not fair.

Call me a whiny bitch, I don't care. You guys got lucky, but I have yet to see any one of you admit it.

ClevelandBronco
09-15-2008, 11:38 PM
Maybe if the call had happened and the Broncos got the ball on the fifty, it would have been easier.

However, when you give a team that should have lost a shot to win on the 10 yard line, its really not fair.

Call me a whiny bitch, I don't care. You guys got lucky, but I have yet to see any one of you admit it.

We got lucky. Lucky as hell.

Now stop being such a whiny bitch.

(Not that you care or anything.)

Buck
09-15-2008, 11:39 PM
We got lucky. Lucky as hell.

Now stop being such a whiny bitch.

Okay, see you week 17, when we knock you out of playoff contention.

ClevelandBronco
09-15-2008, 11:41 PM
Okay, see you week 17, when we knock you out of playoff contention.

It could be a bit difficult to knock the Broncos out of playoff contention. You clowns are the ones hoping for a wild card berth at this point.

TREX
09-15-2008, 11:41 PM
**** you with your the refs were/are in the Rat's pockets nonsense. The Chiefs haven't won anything because they're a piss poor franchise.

There is absolutely no basis to your allegations aside from the fact that THE BRONCOS RULE ALL!!!
Im sorry the donks have not ruled anything since thier inception. The 2 sbs were obtained by circmventing the salary cap. Take some time and look it up. I believe your team was fined and had to give up some draft picks-sounds kind of tarnished to me. These are facts donk fan not allegations.

Sure-Oz
09-15-2008, 11:43 PM
WTF are chargers and donkey fans fighting on a chiefs board?

dubya tee eff indeed, **** both your franchises, to hell i say arghhh

We'll do our best to increase both of your chances of getting in the playoffs with our 2 games a piece and you'll help us get closer to that #1 pick

Buck
09-15-2008, 11:43 PM
It could be a bit difficult to knock the Broncos out of playoff contention. You clowns are the ones hoping for a wild card berth at this point.

Week 2 sir.

Last year we found ourselves in the same situation.

Good Luck to you guys though, I really think that your defense will let you down. I know ours is suspect, but we will turn it around, count on it.

Frazod
09-15-2008, 11:44 PM
Does it help at all that I'm a Gary Pinkel fan from the days he played tight end at Kent State?

While we'll obviously disagree about the Broncos, you certainly aren't one of trolling lowlifes I was talking about. You're here through good times and bad, keep it civil, and despite that whole annoying Bronco thing, seem like a decent enough guy other than that.

Buck
09-15-2008, 11:44 PM
WTF are chargers and donkey fans fighting on a chiefs board?

dubya tee eff indeed, **** both your franchises, to hell i say arghhh

We'll do our best to increase both of your chances of getting in the playoffs with our 2 games a piece and you'll help us get closer to that #1 pick

Well I registered at the Mange over a year ago, and was never sent a confirmation email. I have sent mods emails to get a confirmation and never got anything. Sorry bro.

ClevelandBronco
09-15-2008, 11:45 PM
Im sorry the donks have not ruled anything since thier inception. The 2 sbs were obtained by circmventing the salary cap. Take some time and look it up. I believe your team was fined and had to give up some draft picks-sounds kind of tarnished to me. These are facts donk fan not allegations.

I remember the tragic day they were stripped of those SB wins. They had to give the rings back and everything.

We cried.

Buck
09-15-2008, 11:45 PM
While we'll obviously disagree about the Broncos, you certainly aren't one of trolling lowlifes I was talking about. You're here through good times and bad, keep it civil, and despite that whole annoying Bronco thing, seem like a decent enough guy other than that.

Agreed, 100%. ClevelandBronco is not a troll what-so-ever.

ClevelandBronco
09-15-2008, 11:46 PM
Week 2 sir.

Last year we found ourselves in the same situation.

Good Luck to you guys though, I really think that your defense will let you down. I know ours is suspect, but we will turn it around, count on it.

Of course our defense will let us down. They already have. Did you notice your score?

Sure-Oz
09-15-2008, 11:46 PM
Well I registered at the Mange over a year ago, and was never sent a confirmation email. I have sent mods emails to get a confirmation and never got anything. Sorry bro.

Not a big deal...i just thought it was quite odd....

Taco John
09-15-2008, 11:47 PM
Well I registered at the Mange over a year ago, and was never sent a confirmation email. I have sent mods emails to get a confirmation and never got anything. Sorry bro.

It probably went into your spam folder...

Frazod
09-15-2008, 11:48 PM
Well I registered at the Mange over a year ago, and was never sent a confirmation email. I have sent mods emails to get a confirmation and never got anything. Sorry bro.

You're not missing anything.

Buck
09-15-2008, 11:48 PM
It probably went into your spam folder...

Not that anything I've said tonight would make you want to add me, but you totally should.

Username: BuckinKaeding

email: mattdayjr@yahoo.com

ClevelandBronco
09-15-2008, 11:49 PM
While we'll obviously disagree about the Broncos, you certainly aren't one of trolling lowlifes I was talking about. You're here through good times and bad, keep it civil, and despite that whole annoying Bronco thing, seem like a decent enough guy other than that.

We'd probably be the guys in different jerseys buying rounds for each other.

And talking about the greatness of Missouri football.

Taco John
09-15-2008, 11:52 PM
Not that anything I've said tonight would make you want to add me, but you totally should.

Username: BuckinKaeding

email: mattdayjr@yahoo.com



You didn't say anything that I found over the top. I can perfectly understand why you feel the way you do. I've been in the same position plenty of times...

I've set your account to registered status...

Frazod
09-15-2008, 11:54 PM
We'd probably be the guys in different jerseys buying rounds for each other.

And talking about the greatness of Missouri football.

As long as you take off the damn jersey, I'll but you a glass of whatever you want. :)

El Pendejo
09-16-2008, 12:03 AM
That's funny, a trolling little pussy calling ANYBODY else a bitch. F#ck you and the rest of your sorority sisters stinking up this thread and this BB. Sorry I didn't have tape in the VCR when Stink was bragging about being a cheating piece of shit, but I did hear him say it. And do you really think I'm going to dig around for 10 year old articles talking about something that was generally hushed up even at the time? I don't even need to. You know what they did, and so does everybody else.

All it takes to flush you turds is a couple of Donx losses, and I'm sure those will be upcoming soon. Sure we suck this year, but you can't play us and the Raiders and steal games from San Diego every week.

Of course you won't put in the work to back up what you say other people have said. You're making shit up.

It really is interesting though. You've called me a cocksucker, a pussy and for Christ's sake a sorority girl. And all the while never been able to back up any of your assertions.

Dude you're one pinky grip from flying off the handle and I'm not sure that it hasn't slipped yet.

I'm not trolling. This thread relates to the Donks.

You're flat out silly.

Frazod
09-16-2008, 12:17 AM
Of course you won't put in the work to back up what you say other people have said. You're making shit up.

It really is interesting though. You've called me a cocksucker, a pussy and for Christ's sake a sorority girl. And all the while never been able to back up any of your assertions.

Dude you're one pinky grip from flying off the handle and I'm not sure that it hasn't slipped yet.

I'm not trolling. This thread relates to the Donks.

You're flat out silly.

I'm not making anything up. I can't find a link that will prove the sun will rise in the morning, either, but I know it will. Again, this is common knowledge. It's just OLD common knowledge. And you know it happened. I'll bet if you'd ask the Rat or any of the players, they'd tell you all about it while laughing. You should have seen the grin on Stink's face when he talking about it. That wasn't a figment of my imagination. Again, I don't have instant access to the ESPN archives.

And I ask - are we having this conversion on a Bronco BB? No. You're a typical sniping troll who has come here to the Chiefs board to delight in kicking us when we are down. Again, we all know the kind of person who does that. If the shoe fits, wear it. And I figure that shoe has a long, spiky heel.

El Pendejo
09-16-2008, 12:39 AM
I'm not making anything up. I can't find a link that will prove the sun will rise in the morning, either, but I know it will. Again, this is common knowledge. It's just OLD common knowledge. And you know it happened. I'll bet if you'd ask the Rat or any of the players, they'd tell you all about it while laughing. You should have seen the grin on Stink's face when he talking about it. That wasn't a figment of my imagination. Again, I don't have instant access to the ESPN archives.

And I ask - are we having this conversion on a Bronco BB? No. You're a typical sniping troll who has come here to the Chiefs board to delight in kicking us when we are down. Again, we all know the kind of person who does that. If the shoe fits, wear it. And I figure that shoe has a long, spiky heel.

I'm not a sniping troll. Again. This is a Donks thread on a Chiefs board. The worst thing I've said on this board re: the Chiefs is that Dwayne Bowe has butter fingers.

If the Donks greased their jerseys and were cheating...it wouldn't be very hard at all to use the google or the yahoo, and find quotes from the Jags, Chiefs, Steelers, or Packers players...all of who the Donks beat in the same postseason.

Moobs
09-16-2008, 01:00 AM
You're a typical sniping troll who has come here to the Chiefs board to delight in kicking us when we are down.

To be fair, you guys have been down for about 30 years.

Von Dumbass
09-16-2008, 07:08 AM
The Chargers still could have stopped us on 3rd and 10, 4th and 4, on the 2 point conversion, and they had 26 seconds to get into field goal range against our horrible pass defense.

It was a blown call but the Chargers still had a chance to win. Charger fans need to quit crying about it.

Von Dumbass
09-16-2008, 07:11 AM
I think SD will still win the division. Kharma is a bitch and it will come back to get the Donkeys.

If Karma is a bitch why didn't the Chargers stop the Broncos or score a game winning field goal???

The Broncos didn't cheat. The refs made a mistake. It's not the first time it happened and its not the last.

Von Dumbass
09-16-2008, 07:20 AM
Never seen Denver lose in that fashion...in over 25 years...ever.

I guess you missed the Chicago game last year when our safety Hamza Abdullah returned a fumble for a TD and it was called back....

DaFace
09-16-2008, 09:12 AM
I guess you missed the Chicago game last year when our safety Hamza Abdullah returned a fumble for a TD and it was called back....

I agree that that was a bad break. However, I don't see it as being in the same league as the call on Sunday. The play you're referring to happened early in the 3rd quarter, so while it was a bad call, the play was overturned on replay and the Broncos were awarded possession. However, no matter how that play would have turned out, there were still 30 minutes of the game to play.

If Sunday's call had been correct, it would have been a "walk off" situation. The game was completely over at that point, unless of course you think it's likely that the Chargers would have fumbled on a kneel down. THAT is the reason this is getting so much attention. The screwed up call DIRECTLY changed the outcome of the game.

The play you're referring to may have influenced the outcome, but you never know what would have happened if the TD was allowed. The Bears might have been pissed off about it and ended up coming back to win anyway. We'll never know how that play INDIRECTLY affected the outcome of the game, so the outrage isn't near as strong.

Von Dumbass
09-16-2008, 09:28 AM
I agree that that was a bad break. However, I don't see it as being in the same league as the call on Sunday. The play you're referring to happened early in the 3rd quarter, so while it was a bad call, the play was overturned on replay and the Broncos were awarded possession. However, no matter how that play would have turned out, there were still 30 minutes of the game to play.

If Sunday's call had been correct, it would have been a "walk off" situation. The game was completely over at that point, unless of course you think it's likely that the Chargers would have fumbled on a kneel down. THAT is the reason this is getting so much attention. The screwed up call DIRECTLY changed the outcome of the game.

The play you're referring to may have influenced the outcome, but you never know what would have happened if the TD was allowed. The Bears might have been pissed off about it and ended up coming back to win anyway. We'll never know how that play INDIRECTLY affected the outcome of the game, so the outrage isn't near as strong.

There was still over a minute left in the game and the Broncos had 2 timeouts. We probably would have ran out of time but there was still a chance for Denver...

The Chargers still could have stopped the Broncos on 3rd and 10, 4th and 4, the 2 point conversion, and could have gotten into field goal range with 26 seconds left. Bad call but it didn't give the Broncos the win. They still had to convert.

Heck you guys had 4 chances to get into the endzone against the Pats inside the 5 yard line and you couldn't make it. The Chargers still had a chance.

Simply Red
09-16-2008, 09:36 AM
I know exactly what you mean. He reminds me of a top five QB with an arm of gold that can lay 40 points on two division teams in a row.

Then again, maybe that's not what you meant.

Well, we have to end this rebuilding shit, for one. And slow down free agency, stop Herm Edwards and fire Peterson. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women. We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values. Most importantly, we have to promote general social concern and less materialism by Brodie Croyle.

Simply Red
09-16-2008, 09:49 AM
I'm trying to listen to the new robert palmer tape, but ClevelandBronco (my supposed friend) keeps buzzing in my ear.

Buck
09-16-2008, 11:50 AM
There was still over a minute left in the game and the Broncos had 2 timeouts. We probably would have ran out of time but there was still a chance for Denver...

The Chargers still could have stopped the Broncos on 3rd and 10, 4th and 4, the 2 point conversion, and could have gotten into field goal range with 26 seconds left. Bad call but it didn't give the Broncos the win. They still had to convert.

Heck you guys had 4 chances to get into the endzone against the Pats inside the 5 yard line and you couldn't make it. The Chargers still had a chance.

I actually believe you only had 1 time out with 1:20 left in the game.

Either way even if you had 2.

Chargers Run a play 1:15 left time out

2nd down we run a play 1:10 left, time out

3rd down run a play 25 seconds left 4th down.

4th down, we punt and likely put you in your own territory with 20 seconds or left to drive down the field for a TD.

This is all assuming you had 2 timeouts and could stop us from getting a first down.

It'd be a little more fair if it happened that way, dont you think?

JASONSAUTO
09-16-2008, 11:54 AM
DAMN all this and you are still 0-2 just like us chiefs

Buck
09-16-2008, 12:00 PM
DAMN all this and you are still 0-2 just like us chiefs

Obligatory Best 0-2 Team in the History of the NFL!!!

blueballs
09-16-2008, 12:10 PM
The dude is a full blown insecure pyscho
watch the eyes

blueballs
09-16-2008, 12:13 PM
id give anything for him to be a chief

you'll have to settle for merriman

OctoberFart
09-16-2008, 12:40 PM
The only thing that sucks regardless of the outcome of donks/dolts is the rat has a franchise QB and is the best QB in our division.

Von Dumbass
09-16-2008, 12:53 PM
I actually believe you only had 1 time out with 1:20 left in the game.

Either way even if you had 2.

Chargers Run a play 1:15 left time out

2nd down we run a play 1:10 left, time out

3rd down run a play 25 seconds left 4th down.

4th down, we punt and likely put you in your own territory with 20 seconds or left to drive down the field for a TD.

This is all assuming you had 2 timeouts and could stop us from getting a first down.

It'd be a little more fair if it happened that way, dont you think?
We got a huge break no doubt about that. But that call didn't hand us the game either.

Watching the game from my living room I was still nervous about us getting a TD, I was nervous about the 2 point conversion.

And when Rivers threw that deep pass to Gates on the first play, I thought that our defense would let us down.

Sure-Oz
09-16-2008, 12:58 PM
Yeah the ref may have handed Denver another chance to win, but they still had to score a td and 2 point, all SD needed was one stop. Doesn't make the call right, but the defense could've made that a moot point

morphius
09-16-2008, 01:00 PM
Yeah the ref may have handed Denver another chance to win, but they still had to score a td and 2 point, all SD needed was one stop. Doesn't make the call right, but the defense could've made that a moot point
In fairness the refs did it to them twice.

Sure-Oz
09-16-2008, 01:06 PM
In fairness the refs did it to them twice.

What was the other time? The strip by bailey?

JASONSAUTO
09-16-2008, 01:22 PM
Obligatory Best 0-2 Team in the History of the NFL!!!

you may be right about that LOL

OctoberFart
09-16-2008, 01:31 PM
Obligatory Best 0-2 Team in the History of the NFL!!!
Well 2 years ago they were the best 9-7 team ever.

Buck
09-16-2008, 01:36 PM
Well 2 years ago they were the best 9-7 team ever.

And last year we were the best 1-3 Team Ever.

OctoberFart
09-16-2008, 01:39 PM
And last year we were the best 1-3 Team Ever.

Enjoy because your team in on the downward spiral and is being Norv'd. The success SD has had was all because of Marty and it's starting to wear off. LT looks to be wearing down, Cottrell is terrible and was when he was with Herm in NY, Merriman is hurt and out of roids. Rivers will keep the team competitive along with that OL.

Bill Parcells
09-16-2008, 01:46 PM
Wow, I'm going to be tailgating with an angry BuckinKaeding next week!!

It's gonna suck for you being 0-3, but the beer and liquor are on me.


ROFL

DaFace
09-16-2008, 02:07 PM
Wow, I'm going to be tailgating with an angry BuckinKaeding next week!!

It's gonna suck for you being 0-3, but the beer and liquor are on me.


ROFL

I'm surprised we haven't heard more from you lately (or maybe I just haven't been paying that much attention).

Aside from the highlight reels, how's ol' Farve doin for you guys? If you were to predict a W-L record at the end of the year, what would it be?

Buck
09-16-2008, 02:45 PM
Wow, I'm going to be tailgating with an angry BuckinKaeding next week!!

It's gonna suck for you being 0-3, but the beer and liquor are on me.


ROFL

You crazy muthafudger

As of right now we aren't driving to the game.

We'll be taking a trolley and just finding a cool tailgate to get drunk at.

Bowser
09-16-2008, 02:56 PM
I'm surprised we haven't heard more from you lately (or maybe I just haven't been paying that much attention).

Aside from the highlight reels, how's ol' Farve doin for you guys? If you were to predict a W-L record at the end of the year, what would it be?

All I know is he looked pretty Huard-esque on that 20 yard sack against the Pats.

Bill Parcells
09-16-2008, 04:19 PM
I'm surprised we haven't heard more from you lately (or maybe I just haven't been paying that much attention).

Aside from the highlight reels, how's ol' Farve doin for you guys? If you were to predict a W-L record at the end of the year, what would it be?

The coaching was atrocious on Sunday, and Favre still almost brought the Jets back, something Pennington could never do. they played scared though, and I think the Patriots are in their heads.

The schedule gets somewhat easy after the Chargers game, and I think they will start to mesh together after the bye week in two weeks and make a run. I see 10-6 or maybe better.

Bill Parcells
09-16-2008, 04:22 PM
You crazy muthafudger

As of right now we aren't driving to the game.

We'll be taking a trolley and just finding a cool tailgate to get drunk at.

Dude, come to our tailgate in G3. you're welcome to join in the festivities, we're loading up multiple cars of local socal Jets fans and taking the trolley also.

KCTitus
09-16-2008, 05:30 PM
I guess you missed the Chicago game last year when our safety Hamza Abdullah returned a fumble for a TD and it was called back....

In that particular play, did the refs rule the ball down by contact, review it, rule it a fumble but still give the ball to Chicago?

If so, then you got me...Im totally wrong about Denver getting the benefit of more calls over the last 20 or so years.

JASONSAUTO
09-16-2008, 05:44 PM
Enjoy because your team in on the downward spiral and is being Norv'd. The success SD has had was all because of Marty and it's starting to wear off. LT looks to be wearing down, Cottrell is terrible and was when he was with Herm in NY, Merriman is hurt and out of roids. Rivers will keep the team competitive along with that OL.

uuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm..... shoot yourself in the face

Buck
12-23-2008, 10:09 AM
Okay, see you week 17, when we knock you out of playoff contention.

It could be a bit difficult to knock the Broncos out of playoff contention. You clowns are the ones hoping for a wild card berth at this point.

This is awesome.

Look how smart I am.

If we win this weekend, IN YOUR FACE!!!

PunkinDrublic
12-23-2008, 10:11 AM
I hope you guys whoop up on diabetes boy.

blueballs
12-23-2008, 10:15 AM
Enjoy because your team in on the downward spiral and is being Norv'd. The success SD has had was all because of Marty and it's starting to wear off. LT looks to be wearing down, Cottrell is terrible and was when he was with Herm in NY, Merriman is hurt and out of roids. Rivers will keep the team competitive along with that OL.


Miss Cleo lives

InChiefsHell
12-23-2008, 10:19 AM
This is awesome.

Look how smart I am.

If we win this weekend, IN YOUR FACE!!!

Rep-a-licious!! Go Bolts...this weekend anyway...

unothadeal
12-23-2008, 10:38 AM
Maybe the Broncos will sign Shaun Smith.

ClevelandBronco
12-23-2008, 12:07 PM
This is awesome.

Look how smart I am.

If we win this weekend, IN YOUR FACE!!!

I fail to see how I was wrong.

Beerfund
12-23-2008, 12:20 PM
Cutler looks like he's ready to rape a bitch

Buck
12-23-2008, 12:40 PM
I fail to see how I was wrong.

I do know this much.

Neither the Chargers nor the Broncos are in wild-card contention.

Sure-Oz
12-23-2008, 12:44 PM
As long as both of them put up god like #'s sunday night im happy, who cares who wins but im slightly rooting for SD

eazyb81
12-23-2008, 12:47 PM
I hope Cutler makes Vandy proud and pwns the worthless Chargers this weekend.

Rivers is such a dork.

Sure-Oz
12-23-2008, 12:48 PM
I hope Cutler makes Vandy proud and pwns the worthless Chargers this weekend.

Rivers is such a dork.

I wonder if him and Rivers will talk shit to each other like that one time

eazyb81
12-23-2008, 12:53 PM
I wonder if him and Rivers will talk shit to each other like that one time

Probably. Apparently they really hate each other.

Sure-Oz
12-23-2008, 12:57 PM
Probably. Apparently they really hate each other.

Rivers is a prick, not sure about Cuntler yet, he just looks like a stoner

Buck
12-23-2008, 12:58 PM
Rivers is a prick, not sure about ****ler yet, he just looks like a stoner

FWIW, Rivers will not answer questions about the Cutler/Rivers rivalry while Cutler has spewed shit about it for a while.

eazyb81
12-23-2008, 12:59 PM
FWIW, Rivers will not answer questions about the Cutler/Rivers rivalry while Cutler has spewed shit about it for a while.

Actually I heard a rumor that Rivers won't talk about it because he's scared that Cutler will bitch slap him the next time he sees him. That's the word on the street.....

Sure-Oz
12-23-2008, 01:00 PM
FWIW, Rivers will not answer questions about the Cutler/Rivers rivalry while Cutler has spewed shit about it for a while.

I hope they both go for personal bests sunday and SD comes out on top, that would be hilarious to me.

Reason-i have both rivers and cutler starting hopefully it will be a 49-42 W for SD. All pass tds lol...

What has Cutler said about Rivers in the media? I am sure they will both talk shit and it will make great tv.

Buck
12-23-2008, 01:05 PM
I hope they both go for personal bests sunday and SD comes out on top, that would be hilarious to me.

Reason-i have both rivers and cutler starting hopefully it will be a 49-42 W for SD. All pass tds lol...

What has Cutler said about Rivers in the media? I am sure they will both talk shit and it will make great tv.

Heres the original incident.
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As the defense is walking off the field and taunting Cutler, Rivers smacks his defense on the ass and yells "Atta Baby". No harm, no foul right?

Just because they didn't catch Cutler on Camera doesnt mean he wasn't jawing either.

Here is Cutler on Best Damn Sports Show

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Mind you this is a couple weeks after the Chargers vs. Broncos game in Denver this year (The Hochuli game).

blueballs
12-23-2008, 01:06 PM
would any Bronco fans actually fly into SD
on a Christmas weekend to see this weak ass contest
there could be more Raider fans than either

Buck
12-23-2008, 01:08 PM
would any Bronco fans actually fly into SD
on a Christmas weekend to see this weak ass contest
there could be more Raider fans than either

How come all of the posts
that you ever make
are written in Haiku style?

Sure-Oz
12-23-2008, 01:15 PM
Interesting, i wonder what the reasoning is....Rivers does come off as a dick, and i could see cutler not caring for that and being quiet. I say worry about your own shit, but i hope this is a good score fest and some jawing happens.

blueballs
12-23-2008, 01:19 PM
How come all of the posts
that you ever make
are written in Haiku style?

mental illness

smittysbar
12-23-2008, 01:22 PM
mental illness

That would explain a lot.

The_Doctor10
12-23-2008, 01:51 PM
would any Bronco fans actually fly into SD
on a Christmas weekend to see this weak ass contest
there could be more Raider fans than either

If both offenses play to their potential and Denver manages to find a RB from SOMEWHERE (Shaun Alexander is available; has anybody called him?) it could be one of the best games of the year. It will be more fun to watch than the Jets/Dolphins game. Sure the story's good; Chad Pennington comes back to stick in the Jets and effectively end Brett favre's career and take the previously hapless Dolphins to a first round exit at the hands of whoever they face. But the game itself will probably be an absolute snore-fest.

The Charger/Bronco game at least has the potential for Cutler to fire a laser a Rivers' head when he scrambles to throw it away. Wouldn't that be theatrical...

Sfeihc
12-23-2008, 02:23 PM
I'm late to the party but personally I'd like to punch both in the face.

ClevelandBronco
12-23-2008, 03:17 PM
I do know this much.

Neither the Chargers nor the Broncos are in wild-card contention.

We know that now. We certainly couldn't know it in September when we were both in wild card contention.

Anyway, see you next year.

Buck
12-23-2008, 03:36 PM
We know that now. We certainly couldn't know it in September when we were both in wild card contention.

Anyway, see you next year.

Dont you mean See You Sunday?

Are you already giving up on the game?