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BIG_DADDY
09-17-2008, 04:24 PM
IN POLITICS, cheap shots and invective are occupational hazards. But when have we seen anything to match the frenzy of rage and contempt set off by the nomination of Sarah Palin?

Virtually from the moment John McCain selected her, Palin has been under assault. There has been legitimate criticism, of course. But there has also been a gusher of slander, much of it - like the slur that she isn't the real mother of her infant son, Trig - despicable.

For someone who has been in the national spotlight for only three weeks, Palin has been the victim of an astonishing array of falsehoods. Voters have been told that she slashed funding in Alaska for special-needs children. That she tried to ban books from Wasilla's public library. That she was a member of the secessionist Alaskan Independence Party. That she links Saddam Hussein to the attacks of 9/11. That she backed Pat Buchanan for president. That she doesn't want students taught about contraception. That she called the war in Iraq "a task from God." All untrue.

Hillary Clinton's supporters complain that coverage of her campaign was tainted by sexism, such as the Washington Post story that focused on her cleavage, or Mike Barnicle's description of her on MSNBC as "looking like everyone's first wife standing outside a probate court."

Obama too has suffered the slings and arrows of outrageous comment - the Fox News segment that captioned a picture of his wife "Obama's Baby Mama," for example, and the infamous New Yorker cover showing the Obamas as terrorists in the Oval Office.

But the left's onslaught against Palin has been of a different order of magnitude.

"Ideologically, she is their hardcore pornographic centerfold spread," columnist Cintra Wilson wrote in Salon. "She's such a power-mad, backwater beauty-pageant casualty, it's easy to write her off and make fun of her. But in reality I feel as horrified as a ghetto Jew watching the rise of National Socialism."

On the website of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, commentator Heather Mallick was even cruder. Palin appeals to "the white trash vote" with her "toned-down version of the porn actress look," she wrote. "Husband Todd looks like a roughneck. . . What normal father would want Levi 'I'm a [bleeping] redneck' Johnson prodding his daughter?"

From radio talk-show host Randi Rhodes came the smutty suggestion that the governor of Alaska has an unhealthy interest in teenage boys: "She's friends with all the teenage boys," Rhodes told her audience last week. "You have to say no when your kids say, 'Can we sleep over at the Palins?' No! NO!"

The smears and sneers have been without end. One liberal congressman likened Obama to Jesus - and Palin to Pontius Pilate. A Democratic state chairman declared scornfully that Palin's "primary qualification seems to be that she hasn't had an abortion." A University of Chicago professor seethed: "Her greatest hypocrisy is in her pretense that she is a woman."

The national media, meanwhile, have only further eroded what remained of their reputation for objectivity.

For months they refused to mention the infidelity of John Edwards, yet they leaped with relish onto Bristol Palin's pregnancy . Ravenous for any negative morsel on the GOP running mate, they deployed legions of reporters to Alaska, who have produced such journalism as the 3,220-word exposť; in Sunday's New York Times that upon winning office, Palin - gasp! - fired opponents and hired people she trusted.

Yet the more she has been attacked, the more her support has solidified. In the latest Fox News poll, Palin's favorable/unfavorable ratio is a strong 54-27. She is named by 33 percent of respondents as the candidate who "best understands the problems of everyday life in America," more than those naming Obama (32 percent), McCain (17), or Joe Biden (10). Among independent voters, Palin's lead over Obama on this measure widens to 13 points. In a recent Rasmussen poll, 51 percent of voters said the press was trying to hurt Palin through its coverage, versus just 5 percent who thought it was trying to help - a 10-1 disparity.

Millions of Americans, not all of them conservative, instinctively identify with Palin. That is why the left's scorching assault, so ugly and unhinged, is backfiring. The longer it goes on, the more it undermines the Democratic ticket - and the more support it builds for McCain, and his refreshingly normal running mate.

Jeff Jacoby can be reached at jacoby@globe.com

Direckshun
09-17-2008, 04:32 PM
Oh blow me. I don't need to read this article to know it's basically lumping in all the stupid shit (i.e. stuff about Palin's daughter) with the serious shit (i.e. stuff like Bridge to Nowhere, cronyism, Bush Doctrine).

This woman, should she and McCain win, will be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, she barely takes questions (she's conducted two highly manipulated interviews with Gibson and Hannity, and answered exactly one question from the press), has said several things that contradict her record and reality, and she has blazed such a unique and controversial trail that it's our right to know who the hell we're voting for.

Palin is subject to this insane frenzy because she's a complete blank slate who's being stowed away in a bubble who has some serious question marks in her past, coming up during an incredibly dire and influential time for there to be a Presidential election.

Direckshun
09-17-2008, 04:33 PM
By the way, the author won't mention this but her favorability/unfavorability numbers have been halved since six days ago, as the honeymoon shine starts to wear off.

jiveturkey
09-17-2008, 04:36 PM
Funny how those that love a good ole swift boatin' feedin' frenzy are now against it.

BIG_DADDY
09-17-2008, 04:38 PM
Funny how those that love a good ole swift boatin' feedin' frenzy are now against it.

Actually I hope it continues

Mr. Laz
09-17-2008, 04:39 PM
the pussification of America continues

Mecca
09-17-2008, 04:45 PM
Oh blow me. I don't need to read this article to know it's basically lumping in all the stupid shit (i.e. stuff about Palin's daughter) with the serious shit (i.e. stuff like Bridge to Nowhere, cronyism, Bush Doctrine).

This woman, should she and McCain win, will be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, she barely takes questions (she's conducted two highly manipulated interviews with Gibson and Hannity, and answered exactly one question from the press), has said several things that contradict her record and reality, and she has blazed such a unique and controversial trail that it's our right to know who the hell we're voting for.

Palin is subject to this insane frenzy because she's a complete blank slate who's being stowed away in a bubble who has some serious question marks in her past, coming up during an incredibly dire and influential time for there to be a Presidential election.

And you didn't even mention how the teleprompter messing up at the convention story was a complete lie and it never messed up.

Silock
09-17-2008, 04:46 PM
the pussification of America continues

I hate Big Pussy.

Infidel Goat
09-17-2008, 04:47 PM
Boo f'in hoo.

Saggysack
09-17-2008, 04:51 PM
I hate BIG_PUSSY.

fixed it for you

HolyHandgernade
09-17-2008, 05:13 PM
Hey, I got an idea, how about the RNC let Palin talk to the media so we don't have to resort to generalizations and guesses? The frenzy is only intensified when you try to sneak her past the scrutiny.

-HH

bango
09-17-2008, 05:19 PM
I would like to feed on her frenzy if she would allow it.

Cannibal
09-17-2008, 07:08 PM
I would like to feed on her frenzy if she would allow it.

Prolly smells like rotten Alaskan King Salmon.

Mr. Laz
09-17-2008, 07:13 PM
it's funny as hell .....

when the GOP is throwing dirt it's all good fun and people just need to 'stop being such pussies'

when something goes wrong the Dem watch is like chumming the waters with blood in a pool of great white.


when someone else is throwing dirt the GOP start crying foul and say "we need to work together"

when someone goes wrong under GOP watch they say "we all share the blame"


such hypocritical bags of cow shit

Programmer
09-17-2008, 07:20 PM
it's funny as hell .....

when the GOP is throwing dirt it's all good fun and people just need to 'stop being such pussies'

when something goes wrong the Dem watch is like chumming the waters with blood in a pool of great white.


when someone else is throwing dirt the GOP start crying foul and say "we need to work together"

when someone goes wrong under GOP watch they say "we all share the blame"


such hypocritical bags of cow shit

The dirt, if true dirt, would be OK. It's the made up shit that stinks to high heaven.

Seems people here are willing to full out attack the republicans for "jaz lying" to everyone about Obama, but it's OK for the democrats to to 100 times more?

The American people are not as dumb as the liberals want them to think. this continued bullshit will only enforce the stand that Obama is not who they want in the White House.

Mecca
09-17-2008, 07:23 PM
Yes because we know Republicans don't lie.....right...

Mr. Laz
09-17-2008, 07:24 PM
The dirt, if true dirt, would be OK. .
oh shiite ... Karl Rove has made a living by throwing half true/have BS dirt.

hell ... he kept that corrupt,moron POS Dubya in the white for 8 freaking with with his lies and manipulation.

Mecca
09-17-2008, 07:25 PM
oh shiite ... Karl Rove has made a living by throwing half true/have BS dirt.

hell ... he kept that corrupt,moron POS Dubya in the white for 8 freaking with with his lies and manipulation.

That somehow won't count, just watch.

RJ
09-17-2008, 07:26 PM
Prolly smells like rotten Alaskan King Salmon.


Moose. It smells like moose.

Moosetang.

Mecca
09-17-2008, 07:27 PM
Moose. It smells like moose.

Moosetang.

Are you saying she has big horns inside her?

Guru
09-17-2008, 07:28 PM
Yes because we know Republicans don't lie.....right...
Both sides lie.

Mecca
09-17-2008, 07:32 PM
Both sides lie.

Don't tell him that, he insinuated only Dems lie while Republicans speak the truth.

Guru
09-17-2008, 07:34 PM
How do you know when a politician is lying?

keg in kc
09-17-2008, 07:36 PM
How do you know when a politician is lying?Tom C@ash is defending him.

RJ
09-17-2008, 07:36 PM
How do you know when a politician is lying?



When her lips move!

Guru
09-17-2008, 07:42 PM
When her lips move!
I knew somebody would turn this back on to women. LMAO

KCJohnny
09-17-2008, 07:46 PM
Sarah Palin is a great American.
She deserves the respect any other decent American deserves, and is wholesome, honest and patriotic. Should she apologize for being attractive?

Any attempt to conflate the mudlisnging of the left and the mudslinging of the right is maddeningly obtuse. Clearly Governor Palin strikes fear in the heart of the Left.

Mecca
09-17-2008, 07:47 PM
She strikes fear in anyone with a brain that realizes what she is.

Guru
09-17-2008, 07:49 PM
A politician.

Adept Havelock
09-17-2008, 07:56 PM
Any attempt to conflate the mudlisnging of the left and the mudslinging of the right is maddeningly obtuse.

What did you call me?

http://c.imagehost.org/0677/shawshank38.jpg



I think I just figured out which holy-roller KCJ reminds me of. ;)

irishjayhawk
09-17-2008, 08:00 PM
Sarah Palin is a great American.
She deserves the respect any other decent American deserves, and is wholesome, honest and patriotic. Should she apologize for being attractive?

Any attempt to conflate the mudlisnging of the left and the mudslinging of the right is maddeningly obtuse. Clearly Governor Palin strikes fear in the heart of the Left.

ROFL

penchief
09-17-2008, 08:03 PM
Sarah Palin is a great American.
She deserves the respect any other decent American deserves, and is wholesome, honest and patriotic. Should she apologize for being attractive?

Any attempt to conflate the mudlisnging of the left and the mudslinging of the right is maddeningly obtuse. Clearly Governor Palin strikes fear in the heart of the Left.

The mudslinging of the left would have to get pretty bad before it even came close to the shameless Rovian tactics that the right has used to divide and conquer this nation. The Atwater/Rove method has raised the level of political contempt and derision to new heights while rendering the important issues irrelevant. That is and has been the republican party's strategy. And you are a perfect example of the completely unobjective goose-stepping partisan sheep that only cares about total ideological victory instead of pragmatic governance or practical solutions.

All republican conservatives = righteous, moral, god-loving, true to founding fathers.

Liberal democrats = immoral, dishonest, god-hating, country-hating, communists.

Programmer
09-17-2008, 08:06 PM
All republican conservatives = righteous, moral, god-loving, true to founding fathers.

Liberal democrats = immoral, dishonest, god-hating, country-hating, communists.

I know you meant this as a joke, but there are some truths in the sayings. Not to the extent you expressed them, but some very interesting observations.

bango
09-17-2008, 08:22 PM
Prolly smells like rotten Alaskan King Salmon.

You do not have to try and sweeten the deal on her. I was sold before you had begun singing her praises.

bango
09-17-2008, 08:23 PM
I know you meant this as a joke, but there are some truths in the sayings. Not to the extent you expressed them, but some very interesting observations.

Shut the heck up.

Programmer
09-17-2008, 08:29 PM
Shut the heck up.

I think you would be best served to shut the **** up.

I did not respond to any post you made, it's time you grew up and walked away.

bango
09-17-2008, 08:36 PM
I think you would be best served to shut the **** up.

I did not respond to any post you made, it's time you grew up and walked away.

Republicans are the greatest people that have ever existed, ever. Also take your own damn advice. You did not respond to any of my posts. Not even the valid ones. What is the name of that condition that you have again?

Logical
09-17-2008, 08:37 PM
Oh blow me. I don't need to read this article to know it's basically lumping in all the stupid shit (i.e. stuff about Palin's daughter) with the serious shit (i.e. stuff like Bridge to Nowhere, cronyism, Bush Doctrine).

This woman, should she and McCain win, will be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, she barely takes questions (she's conducted two highly manipulated interviews with Gibson and Hannity, and answered exactly one question from the press), has said several things that contradict her record and reality, and she has blazed such a unique and controversial trail that it's our right to know who the hell we're voting for.

Palin is subject to this insane frenzy because she's a complete blank slate who's being stowed away in a bubble who has some serious question marks in her past, coming up during an incredibly dire and influential time for there to be a Presidential election.

Add to that the senile old gasbag who selected her did not really vette her so the media is determined to feret out every possible imperfection in her past. Add to this the woman has more anomalies and bad trends in her background than any candidate I have ever seen in my life. Most of the false shit (not really all that much) would have been found and discarded without making it into the media had McCain just done the process right.

KCJohnny
09-17-2008, 08:43 PM
Add to that the senile old gasbag who selected her...

Case in point. That advances nothing other than what Sen. Obama decries as the politics of personal destruction.

It coarsens the discussion and plummets the level of respect for the participants. That is not good for Chiefs Planet, that is not good for America.

HonestChieffan
09-17-2008, 08:52 PM
Making stuff up and typing it on a discussion board does not make said stuff fact. The only people buying into this crap are the OboBots who have nothing to say positive about Obo.

Taco John
09-17-2008, 08:53 PM
IN POLITICS, cheap shots and invective are occupational hazards. But when have we seen anything to match the frenzy of rage and contempt set off by the nomination of Sarah Palin?




Uh, the nomination of Barack Obama...

irishjayhawk
09-17-2008, 09:14 PM
Uh, the nomination of Barack Obama...

ROFL

:clap:


Headshot.

Logical
09-17-2008, 09:16 PM
Hey, I got an idea, how about the RNC let Palin talk to the media so we don't have to resort to generalizations and guesses? The frenzy is only intensified when you try to sneak her past the scrutiny.

-HHPerhaps she is as dumb as she seems and they don't want it revealed????:eek:

J Diddy
09-17-2008, 09:18 PM
Case in point. That advances nothing other than what Sen. Obama decries as the politics of personal destruction.

It coarsens the discussion and plummets the level of respect for the participants. That is not good for Chiefs Planet, that is not good for America.

fight fire with fire

Logical
09-17-2008, 09:19 PM
Case in point. That advances nothing other than what Sen. Obama decries as the politics of personal destruction.

It coarsens the discussion and plummets the level of respect for the participants. That is not good for Chiefs Planet, that is not good for America.I guess it does not matter that if I had access to all the video files a news organization does I could show over a dozen incidents in the last 3 months that would pretty much prove it is an accurate description.

Logical
09-17-2008, 09:32 PM
Sarah Palin is a great American.
She deserves the respect any other decent American deserves, and is wholesome, honest and patriotic. Should she apologize for being attractive?

Any attempt to conflate the mudlisnging of the left and the mudslinging of the right is maddeningly obtuse. Clearly Governor Palin strikes fear in the heart of the Left.

This post defines STUPID
(anyone who invested time reading this is a little less for having done so.) May neg rep come cascading down on your retarded ass.

patteeu
09-18-2008, 06:54 AM
Is "porn actress look" just another way of saying "hot"?

penchief
09-18-2008, 06:57 AM
Case in point. That advances nothing other than what Sen. Obama decries as the politics of personal destruction.

It coarsens the discussion and plummets the level of respect for the participants. That is not good for Chiefs Planet, that is not good for America.

Then McCain, himself, needs to stop resorting to such gutter tactics. But of course, the Christian in you can't recognize the unChristian behavior coming directly from McCain.

By the way, are you ever going to respond to those statements by Jefferson and Franklin that refute your claims about their intentions?

Mecca
09-18-2008, 06:58 AM
Is "porn actress look" just another way of saying "hot"?

Only if you think ATM is what it takes to get elected that or a sticky face.

patteeu
09-18-2008, 07:00 AM
Hey, I got an idea, how about the RNC let Palin talk to the media so we don't have to resort to generalizations and guesses? The frenzy is only intensified when you try to sneak her past the scrutiny.

-HH

It's not so much the frenzy that bothers but the serial, rampant, outrageous lying (coming from the folks who are incensed over the fact that John McCain didn't use the phrase "age appropriate" in his ad about Obama's support for kindergarten sex ed, no less).

patteeu
09-18-2008, 07:01 AM
Only if you think ATM is what it takes to get elected that or a sticky face.

ATM?

Mecca
09-18-2008, 07:03 AM
ATM?

Are you really that sheltered that you don't know what that means?

patteeu
09-18-2008, 07:04 AM
Most of the false shit (not really all that much) would have been found and discarded without making it into the media had McCain just done the process right.

:spock:

patteeu
09-18-2008, 07:08 AM
Are you really that sheltered that you don't know what that means?

I'm guessing it doesn't mean
Asynchronous Transfer Mode,
Adobe Type Manager,
Automated Teller Machine, or
at the moment

So I guess the answer is yes.

:shrug:

Mecca
09-18-2008, 07:11 AM
It means ass to mouth....and I'd be alot more comfortable with her doing that than killing wolves....a wolf is a cool animal and people that are ok with killing them especially from the air really piss me off.

mlyonsd
09-18-2008, 11:19 AM
Per CNN this just in.....Palin's rimless glasses a 2 month wait.

CNN is on top of it again. How ever do they do it?

http://www.cnn.com/tshirt/?hash=c2352b449cb278ca6af1b80135d899cd&return_uri=http://www.cnn.com/video/%23/video/world/2008/09/17/lah.japan.palin.glasses.cnn

bkkcoh
09-18-2008, 11:34 AM
..
Hillary Clinton's supporters complain that coverage of her campaign was tainted by sexism, such as the Washington Post story that focused on her cleavage, or Mike Barnicle's description of her on MSNBC as "looking like everyone's first wife standing outside a probate court."

...

anyone else here didn't realize that HRC had cleavage? the only thing that I noticed was her cankles. :D

Chief Faithful
09-18-2008, 11:50 AM
This post defines STUPID
(anyone who invested time reading this is a little less for having done so.) May neg rep come cascading down on your retarded ass.

You must be an Obama supporter that took his charge to "argue and get in their face" seriously.

J Diddy
09-18-2008, 12:04 PM
anyone else here didn't realize that HRC had cleavage? the only thing that I noticed was her cankles. :D

I couldn't get past the face

She hasn't aged well at all

mlyonsd
09-18-2008, 12:19 PM
anyone else here didn't realize that HRC had cleavage?

I thought those were jowls.