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KC Jones
09-18-2008, 07:50 PM
I mean nobody in there right mind would ever come to this forum to find out about our candidates...

nonetheless, I offer the following list of candidate responses to questions posed by SEA (Scientists and Engineers for America)

http://sharp.sefora.org/innovation2008/compare/race/president/2008/

Howlin Wolf
09-18-2008, 10:45 PM
they are remarkably similar in their generalizations, but I think Obama writes more checks than his ass will ever cash. sad thing is both seem to have full and total belief in the 'global warmings because of us' nonsense.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-18-2008, 10:48 PM
they are remarkably similar in their generalizations, but I think Obama writes more checks than his ass will ever cash. sad thing is both seem to have full and total belief in the 'global warmings because of us' nonsense.

Yeah, it's just a myth, like the Chicxulub crater, and all that dinosaur bullshit.

Mecca
09-18-2008, 10:53 PM
I still find it hilarious how many people really think there is no such thing as global warming.

Howlin Wolf
09-18-2008, 10:58 PM
its not called 'global warming' anymore - its called 'climate change' now. after all, the climates a static thing yep.

Howlin Wolf
09-18-2008, 10:58 PM
also, recycling is a scam

KILLER_CLOWN
09-18-2008, 11:01 PM
Yeah, it's just a myth, like the Chicxulub crater, and all that dinosaur bullshit.

check out the HAARP program and you will forget about fake "man made" global warming.


(H)igh-frequency (A)ctive (A)uroral (R)esearch (P)rogram.

http://www.haarp.net/

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-18-2008, 11:08 PM
check out the HAARP program and you will forget about fake "man made" global warming.


(H)igh-frequency (A)ctive (A)uroral (R)esearch (P)rogram.

http://www.haarp.net/

christ.

irishjayhawk
09-18-2008, 11:13 PM
I still find it hilarious how many people really think there is no such thing as global warming.

Is it really that hard?

People believe the world is 6000 years old. People believe tons of weird shit.

irishjayhawk
09-18-2008, 11:14 PM
check out the HAARP program and you will forget about fake "man made" global warming.


(H)igh-frequency (A)ctive (A)uroral (R)esearch (P)rogram.

http://www.haarp.net/


You just lost all credibility.

KILLER_CLOWN
09-18-2008, 11:17 PM
You just lost all credibility.

why thank you, sorry i couldn't champion a myth for you.

Mecca
09-18-2008, 11:19 PM
Is it really that hard?

People believe the world is 6000 years old. People believe tons of weird shit.

Matt Damon is pretty upset that you brought this up.

KILLER_CLOWN
09-18-2008, 11:25 PM
I still find it hilarious how many people really think there is no such thing as global warming.

Ok considering a scenario where there is man made global warming, hrmph, is the solution to tax the crap out of the lower/middle class? will that fix it? You do know that alternative energy will NEVER be mainstream right? you can fight until your skin falls off and it won't change the fact it will never happen.

irishjayhawk
09-18-2008, 11:25 PM
Ok considering a scenario where there is man made global warming, hrmph, is the solution to tax the crap out of the lower/middle class? will that fix it? You do know that alternative energy will NEVER be mainstream right? you can fight until your skin falls off and it won't change the fact it will never happen.

Our current domestication of cattle is one place.

Velvet_Jones
09-18-2008, 11:28 PM
I still find it hilarious how many people really think there is no such thing as global warming.

This is not what they are saying. Restrict you comments to man-made global warning or I will change the 70-80 degree weather that you have enjoyed in KC to 90 degrees until December. Keep fugging with me. I have done it before and I can do it again.

Is that what you are talking about? Get a freaking clue or at lest admit that you are an idiot.

Just keep fugging with me and I'll start driving my 4350 John Deere to work to make sure that I contribute to warming your planet. I hope you are satisfied in contributing to global warming. And thank you for giving me a reason for driving my tractor into town.

Logical
09-18-2008, 11:28 PM
Ok considering a scenario where there is man made global warming, hrmph, is the solution to tax the crap out of the lower/middle class? will that fix it? You do know that alternative energy will NEVER be mainstream right? you can fight until your skin falls off and it won't change the fact it will never happen.You do know that Oil is a finite (not infinite, you might want to look those two words up) item right. So if alternative energy will never be mainstream, I hope you enjoy walking.

KILLER_CLOWN
09-18-2008, 11:29 PM
Our current domestication of cattle is one place.

So your beliefs are centered around methane not carbon as a major contributor to global warming?

irishjayhawk
09-18-2008, 11:30 PM
So your beliefs are centered around methane not carbon as a major contributor to global warming?

I just listed one source. Methane is a big one.

Essentially, Global Warming makes too much sense. It just does.

Now, as to whether humans are actually the CAUSE of it remains to be seen. But as I've said over and over, I don't really see the downside in the conscientious switch of our consuming habits and a respect for the environment.

KILLER_CLOWN
09-18-2008, 11:31 PM
You do know that Oil is a finite (not infinite, you might want to look those two words up) item right. So if alternative energy will never be mainstream, I hope you enjoy walking.

How many people fight big oil and win? Also i'm not anywhere near convinced that oil nor natural gas is even close to in short supply.

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The rest of this series is available on youtube, if anyone is interested.

Reaper16
09-18-2008, 11:49 PM
Between my head cold, Velvet Jones's post, and that haarp.net link, I'm starting to question the validity of my sensory experience. I'm very close to an epistemological crisis here.

irishjayhawk
09-18-2008, 11:51 PM
Between my head cold, Velvet Jones's post, and that haarp.net link, I'm starting to question the validity of my sensory experience. I'm very close to an epistemological crisis here.

ROFL

Howlin Wolf
09-19-2008, 01:40 AM
A Spotless Sun and the Coming Ice Age

South Orange, NJ September 14 2008

By Alan Caruba

There’s a wonderful irony in the fact that, back in the 1970s, the Greens were issuing warnings and even writing books about the coming Ice Age. They would abandon this issue, based in well-known and accepted solar science, in favor of a vast international hoax alleging man-made global warming.

As the global warming hoax begins to lose its power to influence public opinion and policy, the Greens are not likely to be heeded for a long time to come because they were right about an Ice Age and lying through their teeth about global warming.

Scientists and laymen who follow the Ice Age cycles have been warning that, if not a full-fledged Ice Age, at the very least a Little Ice Age comparable to one that lasted from 1300 to around 1850 is on its way

Amidst all the media coverage of Hurricane Gustav and the Republican Convention, a report in DailyTech.com was not likely to get much attention, but it forecast a very cold world in the years to come. The Earth has already started to cool and scientists date the change from 1998.

Headlined, “Drop in solar activity has potential effect for climate on Earth”, the news is that, for the first time in 100 years, “an entire month has passed without a single visible sunspot being noted.” The author, Michael Asher, noted that “The event is significant as many climatologists now believe solar magnetic activity—which determines the number of sunspots—is an influencing factor for climate on Earth.”

My friend, Robert W. Felix, wrote an excellent book on this titled “Not by Fire, but by Ice” ($15.00, Sugarhouse Publishing, softcover, second edition) which can be purchased from his website at IceAgeNow.com.

“We’re beginning to realize that Earth is a violent and dangerous place to live,” wrote Felix. “We’re beginning to realize that mass extinctions have been the rule, rather than the exception, for the 3.5 billion years that life has existed on Earth.”

Felix has a new book soon to be published that addresses magnetic reversals, another cyclical factor affecting life on Earth. “During the last 4.5 million years, at least six out of nine radiolarian extinctions occurred at magnetic reversals.” They appear to be a factor in the sudden emergence of new species so Darwin’s theory is likely to be reexamined.

As the DailyTech report notes, “In the past 1000 years, three previous such events, the Dalton, Maunder, and Sporer Minimums,” of reduced sunspot activity, “have all led to rapid cooling,” adding that, “For a society dependent on agriculture, cold is more damaging than heat. The growing season shortens, yields drop, and the occurrence of crop-destroying frosts increases.”

An article by William Livingston and Matthew Penn of the National Solar Observatory in Tucson, Arizona, “Sunspots May Vanish by 2015”, predicts that sunspots will disappear completely. “Such an event would not be unprecedented, since during a famous episode from 1645-1715, known as the Maunder Minimum…” That solar cycle “was shown to correspond with the reduced average global temperatures on the Earth.” In other words, it’s going to get COLD.

The Little Ice Age had an effect on history as you might imagine. The French Revolution is attributed to it insofar as the cost of bread rose as wheat crops failed. Riots followed. Similarly, Napoleon’s invasion of Russia met with defeat thanks to a winter that killed thousands of his troops. In America, it was reflected in the travails of Valley Forge.

Over at IceAgeNow.com, Felix posts the latest news from around the world that tells of anomalous events ranging from freak early snow storms to expanding glaciers. Soon enough, those living in the northern hemisphere will become more aware as winters lengthen and become more severe. After that, the scenarios grow quite serious.

Even the venerable Old Farmers Almanac is making news these days forecasting a far cooler winter and suggesting that the Earth is already in a cooling cycle.

No doubt some diehard Greens like Al Gore will continue to spout nonsense that the cold weather is due to global warming, but it has to do with the Sun that’s gone quiet. It’s not myth. It’s reality.


Alan Caruba
Founder
The National Anxiety Center
South Orange, NJ

guffaw!
too bad I can't post links, pics etc for some reason. how many posts must you make to be able to do that? I had to disable the links so that I could post it even. meh.

Programmer
09-19-2008, 05:21 AM
Is it really that hard?

People believe the world is 6000 years old. People believe tons of weird shit.

Exactly what "people" believe the world is 6000 years old?

You seem to have a very limited view of religion and are attempting to impress those views as beliefs.

In your opinion, when was Adam created?

Programmer
09-19-2008, 05:24 AM
Climate change or natural cycle?

KILLER_CLOWN
09-19-2008, 06:52 AM
Exactly what "people" believe the world is 6000 years old?

I do, and Natural cycle.