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HonestChieffan
09-21-2008, 04:44 PM
What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961;

Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)....since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)...since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since 1952;

Newark, NJ(10th)...since 1907.

Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats --- yet are still disadvantaged.

Direckshun
09-21-2008, 04:50 PM
Actually it's because big cities historically have the deepest rooted problems with poverty -- this is not an American historical trend, it's a trend of human history.

So... what was your point again?

HonestChieffan
09-21-2008, 04:55 PM
Maybe they should elect a Republican?

Direckshun
09-21-2008, 04:58 PM
Maybe they should elect a Republican?

And electing a Republican mayor would what? Single-handedly reverse a trend of human history?

Direckshun
09-21-2008, 04:59 PM
By the way, you've picked the worst possible day in a generation to pick on Democrats regarding the economy...

HonestChieffan
09-21-2008, 05:02 PM
why

Direckshun
09-21-2008, 05:07 PM
No reason.

No reason at all.

Just go back to sleep and the adults will handle things from here.

HonestChieffan
09-21-2008, 05:18 PM
Democrats share no blame I suppose?

Direckshun
09-21-2008, 05:25 PM
Democrats share no blame I suppose?

Sure they do, but we have a Republican executive.

And you just created a thread saying we all need Republican executives to correct some economic concerns.

I'm just saying -- there's a time and place for everything. Get your shit together.

HonestChieffan
09-21-2008, 05:28 PM
So you prefer that Bush be the only one accountable? What was his role?

Direckshun
09-21-2008, 05:29 PM
So you prefer that Bush be the only one accountable?

Isn't that what you're arguing here?

That the problem with these cities are their Democratic mayors?

HonestChieffan
09-21-2008, 05:30 PM
Im not arguing. I just posted a fact.

Direckshun
09-21-2008, 05:39 PM
Im not arguing. I just posted a fact.

You're putting zero thought into your posts today.

You argued that the 10 worst cities have high poverty rates.

Then you posted that they all have Democratic mayors.

Then you posted it's insane to do the same thing repeatedly and expect different results.

That's a ****ing argument.

Log off the board now and go play with your children. Today is not your day in this forum.

HonestChieffan
09-21-2008, 05:40 PM
I see so the correlation bothers you?

Direckshun
09-21-2008, 05:43 PM
I see so the correlation bothers you?

Of course it bothers me. Poverty should bother all of us.

But I refuse to stick Democratic mayors with the lone share of blame.

This is a trend of all of human history.

HonestChieffan
09-21-2008, 05:44 PM
Human history has a trend of increased poverty?

Direckshun
09-21-2008, 05:45 PM
Human history has a trend of increased poverty?

History has a trend of larger, urban cities being the largest source of high poverty rates.

bango
09-21-2008, 05:49 PM
We should just be glad that he did not blame it all on theses cities mostly not having white majorities of population.

Direckshun
09-21-2008, 05:52 PM
We should just be glad that he did not blame it all on theses cities mostly not having white majorities of population.

I half-expect him to.

HonestChieffan
09-21-2008, 06:17 PM
Why do you expect such a thing?

Direckshun
09-21-2008, 06:18 PM
Because it's an unwarranted, braindead, simplistic breakdown of a complex issue, and you've already proven you're prone to such remarks.

HonestChieffan
09-21-2008, 06:19 PM
remarks such as what?

Direckshun
09-21-2008, 06:23 PM
remarks such as what?
Oh, I don't know, let me dig deep into the archives...

Ah. Here's one.

Maybe they should elect a Republican?

HonestChieffan
09-21-2008, 06:24 PM
Oh. Ok.

Logical
09-21-2008, 07:55 PM
What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961;

Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)....since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)...since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since 1952;

Newark, NJ(10th)...since 1907.

Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats --- yet are still disadvantaged.Well lets see high concentrations of immigrant populations. Or perhaps they have a disproptionate number of people idled by the loss of our manufacturing base. Nah you must be right it is all those Democratic Mayors. Evil sumsabidges.:rolleyes:

Pitt Gorilla
09-21-2008, 08:01 PM
Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'Would that be akin to electing a Republican for President this term?

Sully
09-21-2008, 08:02 PM
Every single one of those cities has a college in it. Doesn't that correlation concern you?

HonestChieffan
09-21-2008, 08:04 PM
History has a trend of larger, urban cities being the largest source of high poverty rates.

Isnt that a given? They have the most people.

Logical
09-21-2008, 08:07 PM
Maybe they should elect a Republican?That really works well in all cases, please cite the correlation of Republicans removing poverty from major urban areas.

Dallas Chief
09-21-2008, 08:30 PM
History has a trend of larger, urban cities being the largest source of high poverty rates.

Hmmm. I'm not so sure I buy that...

Dallas Chief
09-21-2008, 08:45 PM
Hmmm. I'm not so sure I buy that...

After more thought you are only about half correct. Larger cities tend to have more pockets of higher poverty rates where as rural states tend to have an overall higher poverty rate. More of a macro view of the country illustrates this. When you drill down into some of the larger urban areas- your point is validated. Food for thought...:D

http://www.socialexplorer.com/pub/maps/map3.aspx?g=0

HonestChieffan
09-21-2008, 08:47 PM
Its ok, he believes it regardless of the fact its a truism that where the most people are the most poverty exists...its alos true that thats where the most rich people are, the most diverse population is, the oldest, youngest, most employed and most unemployed are....

Dallas Chief
09-21-2008, 08:48 PM
That really works well in all cases, please cite the correlation of Republicans removing poverty from major urban areas.

I would like to see that data. As an "R" I really doubt there is a statistically significant difference. We'll see...

Direckshun
09-21-2008, 08:57 PM
Its ok, he believes it regardless of the fact its a truism that where the most people are the most poverty exists...its alos true that thats where the most rich people are, the most diverse population is, the oldest, youngest, most employed and most unemployed are....

What on earth are you talking about.

Direckshun
09-21-2008, 08:58 PM
After more thought you are only about half correct. Larger cities tend to have more pockets of higher poverty rates where as rural states tend to have an overall higher poverty rate. More of a macro view of the country illustrates this. When you drill down into some of the larger urban areas- your point is validated. Food for thought...:D

http://www.socialexplorer.com/pub/maps/map3.aspx?g=0

I'm pretty sure we were talking about cities to begin with.

Wasn't the OP talking about cities? Since when did we introduce states into the conversation?

I responded on topic and your research validates my entire argument, to say nothing of an understanding of Demographics 101.

Logical
09-21-2008, 10:25 PM
What on earth are you talking about.
Seemed like he was babbling. I could not figure out what his point was in that mish-mosh.

Silock
09-21-2008, 11:41 PM
Those stats might be relevant if the executive branch created policy.

Mr Luzcious
09-21-2008, 11:48 PM
Thanks HonestChieffan, my head feels fuller (more full, I know) already.

patteeu
09-22-2008, 06:50 AM
Those stats might be relevant if the executive branch created policy.

How many of those 10 cities do you think have had mainly (any at all?) Republican majority city councils during those time periods?

Democrats are, of course, also responsible for the "war on poverty" programs of the federal government which, as we all know, have either been amazingly successful in eradicating poverty nationwide or have trapped millions of people in impoverished dependency. I can't remember which.