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jidar
09-22-2008, 03:44 PM
Finally, someone has said something I actually want to hear.

Obama vows deep cuts in spending

GREEN BAY, Wis. (AP) Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama moved to claim the mantle of fiscal responsibility in a roiling economy, vowing on Monday to slash federal spending on contractors by 10 percent and saving $40 billion.
Urging members of his own party to be just as fiscally tough as the most conservative Republicans, Obama said the $700 billion economic bailout plan proposed by the Bush administration and congressional leaders is forcing a renewed look at federal spending.
As president, Obama said he would create a White House team headed by a chief performance officer to monitor the efficiency of government spending.
"I am not a Democrat who believes that we can or should defend every government program just because it's there," Obama said at a rally in Green Bay. "We will fire government managers who aren't getting results, we will cut funding for programs that are wasting your money and we will use technology and lessons from the private sector to improve efficiency across every level of government."
"The only way we can do all this without leaving our children with an even larger debt is if Washington starts taking responsibility for every dime that it spends," he said.
Obama focused tightly on the economy in recent days, and he has urged Democrats and Republicans to join forces to approve a bailout of the troubled financial industry that not only saves the industry but protects taxpayers.
"We are here because an ethic of irresponsibility has swept through our government, leaving politicians with the belief they can waste billions and billions of your money on no-bid contracts for friends and contributors, slip pork projects into bills during the dead of night and spend billions on corporate tax breaks we can't afford and old programs we don't need," said Obama.
He linked the turmoil that's rocked Wall Street to federal spending he said has soared out of control, laying the blame at the feet of Republican policies he argued that rival John McCain is certain to continue.
President Bush ran for office on a platform of efficiency in government, Obama said, noting that Bush instead has presided over a mushrooming federal budget and deficits. Under Bush, spending on contractors has more than doubled, from $203 billion in 2000 to $412 billion in 2006.
"We cannot give a blank check to Washington with no oversight and accountability, when no oversight and accountability is what got us into this mess in the first place," said Obama. He warned that even as the government moves to bail out the financial sector there are signs that special interests are looking to profit.
Obama said he's spent the last two years running for president on a promise of change, and he mocked McCain's argument he can bring change to Washington.
"This whole change thing must be catching on," said Obama. "I've noticed that John McCain is trying to steal my signs. He trying to make up for 26 years in 26 hours. Who do you think has been running the government for the last eight years?"
He accused McCain of "an election-year conversion" that's brought change into his rhetoric.
"After 26 years of being part of this Washington culture, all that he has changed is his slogan for the fall campaign," said Obama.
McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds quickly dismissed Obama's speech as lacking substance. "After first promising a plan to address this economic crisis, all Barack Obama delivered for hardworking Americans was political attacks and a total lack of leadership," Bounds said.
Obama warned that the election is hard fought because special interests are fighting hard to keep their place at the table.
"It won't be easy, the kind of change we're looking for is never easy," said Obama. "What we are up against is a very powerful entrenched status quo in Washington who will say anything and do anything and fight with everything they've got to keep things just the way they are."
Obama spoke to 6,000 people in an arena in a state that trends Democratic, and where Obama badly needs a win.

jAZ
09-22-2008, 03:47 PM
Smart move.

Mr. Laz
09-22-2008, 03:49 PM
good to hear

mlyonsd
09-22-2008, 03:52 PM
I'll feel better when he says "You know all that chit I've been promising won't be under the Christmas tree'.

Redrum_69
09-22-2008, 03:52 PM
my bad, wikipedia says his mother was an atheist though

Carlota69
09-22-2008, 03:56 PM
I'll feel better when he says "You know all that chit I've been promising won't be under the Christmas tree'.

I'll feel better when ALL politicians say that.

Mr. Laz
09-22-2008, 03:58 PM
I'll feel better when he says "You know all that chit I've been promising won't be under the Christmas tree'.
you mean you think politican's lie :eek:


of course ..... except for McCain he would never lie, he was a POW, and they never lie.

Garcia Bronco
09-22-2008, 04:32 PM
Great to hear. this really shifts me in his direction. But he can't just pay it lip service.

StcChief
09-22-2008, 04:33 PM
he's lying.

BIG_DADDY
09-22-2008, 04:37 PM
He's pro-gun too. LMAO

BIG_DADDY
09-22-2008, 04:37 PM
We will pay all of this off and get free health care and he won't raise our taxes either. LMAO

Mr. Kotter
09-22-2008, 04:47 PM
Smart move.

If he means it, yes. I guess we'll see, won't we?

Chief Henry
09-22-2008, 05:04 PM
We will pay all of this off and get free health care and he won't raise our taxes either. LMAO

SHAZAAM

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-22-2008, 05:22 PM
I've got a good place to start:

http://www.airplanemodelworks.com/images/medium/department-of-defense-plaque_m.jpg

RJ
09-22-2008, 05:46 PM
We will pay all of this off and get free health care and he won't raise our taxes either. LMAO



http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/#lower-costs

patteeu
09-22-2008, 06:26 PM
Finally, someone has said something I actually want to hear.

Obama vows deep cuts in spending

Boy, it sure is a good thing you rode out the storm with your candidate. For a spending-cut advocate like yourself, it must have been really hard to remain gah-gah over Obama while he was talking about $1 trillion in new spending programs over his first 4 years. Congratulations.

BIG_DADDY
09-22-2008, 06:27 PM
Boy, it sure is a good thing you rode out the storm with your candidate. For a spending-cut advocate like yourself, it must have been really hard to remain gah-gah over Obama while he was talking about $1 trillion in new spending programs over his first 4 years. Congratulations.

Look out, this is about the time jitard starts throwing names around.

patteeu
09-22-2008, 06:28 PM
I've got a good place to start:

http://www.airplanemodelworks.com/images/medium/department-of-defense-plaque_m.jpg

No doubt, if there's any truth to this at all, that's exactly where he'll start. His slogan can be something like "Peace through an inability to fight!"

jidar
09-22-2008, 06:29 PM
Look out, this is about the time jitard starts throwing names around.

... you posted to complain about me name calling while calling me a name.

Brilliant.

Listen when I say you're a ****ing moron I'm not calling you names, I'm just making an observation.

jidar
09-22-2008, 06:31 PM
Boy, it sure is a good thing you rode out the storm with your candidate. For a spending-cut advocate like yourself, it must have been really hard to remain gah-gah over Obama while he was talking about $1 trillion in new spending programs over his first 4 years. Congratulations.

Actually no, I just assumed he would do better with the budget since Democrats historically do.

BIG_DADDY
09-22-2008, 06:33 PM
... you posted to complain about me name calling while calling me a name.

Brilliant.

Listen when I say you're a ****ing moron I'm not calling you names, I'm just stating an observation.

LMAO

Mr. Laz
09-22-2008, 06:40 PM
If he means it, yes. I guess we'll see, won't we?
yep ..... let's ALL cross our fingers and hope he does.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-22-2008, 07:02 PM
No doubt, if there's any truth to this at all, that's exactly where he'll start. His slogan can be something like "Peace through an inability to fight!"

The Iron Triangle has indoctrinated this one well.

tiptap
09-22-2008, 11:00 PM
Well actually he will start with the Homeland Security which was just thrown together.

RINGLEADER
09-23-2008, 12:14 AM
Smart move.

It's a nice political point but entirely meaningless. I wouldn't wait for Obama to get fiscally responsible any more than I'd wait for him to actually follow-through on his tax cut.

Cosmos
09-23-2008, 12:39 AM
No doubt, if there's any truth to this at all, that's exactly where he'll start. His slogan can be something like "Peace through an inability to fight!"

You disagree the DOD budget is severely bloated?

You believe the country is more prepared today to meet a regional crisis?

Bush has suplemented dollars in lieu of sound foriegn policy.

I feel so much safer AND patriotic.

God Bless Amirica!

jAZ
09-23-2008, 01:13 AM
It's a nice political point but entirely meaningless. I wouldn't wait for Obama to get fiscally responsible any more than I'd wait for him to actually follow-through on his tax cut.

I don't think it matters whether you hold your breath for 4 months or 4 years.

Logical
09-23-2008, 01:36 AM
We will pay all of this off and get free health care and he won't raise our taxes either. LMAO
You are starting to remind me more and more of DEnise and not in a good way.

patteeu
09-23-2008, 06:57 AM
You disagree the DOD budget is severely bloated?

The DOD budget will always be bloated because that's an inherent characteristic of the budget of a large government bureaucracy. New ideas for efficiency are always welcomed. Unilateral disarmament is a different story though. That's not to say that we can't cancel weapons programs that aren't working or that are no longer a part of our strategic vision, but effective defense needs to be the top priority with cost savings being a subordinate priority, IMO.

You believe the country is more prepared today to meet a regional crisis?

There's no doubt about that. Aside from the fact that a portion of our military is currently occupied in the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, we are absolutely more prepared to meet regional crises today than we were a few years ago. We have better trained personnel, better equipment, and better tactics than we did before 9/11 as a result of our experiences in the GWoT.

Amnorix
09-23-2008, 07:06 AM
If the current fiasco turns both parties into being much more budget conscious, on both tax and spending sides, then it may well have been worth it. You'd think it'd be enough to pour cold water over everybody and wake them the hell up, but politicans often seem inured to little things like the real world.

All that said, 10% spent on contractors and $40 billion is basically taking a cupful of water out of the ocean.