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Taco John
09-24-2008, 10:52 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=abvT79Aou2Pw&refer=worldwide


McCain Suspends Campaign; Obama Presses for Debate (Update2)

By Edwin Chen and Julianna Goldman

Sept. 24 (Bloomberg) -- John McCain made a surprise announcement that he was suspending his presidential campaign and called on Democratic rival Barack Obama to postpone their first debate until Congress hammers out a plan to steady the financial markets.

Obama rebuffed McCain, saying it's ``more important than ever'' for the candidates to tell voters how they would deal with the crisis. He said they can work with Congress while campaigning. ``It is going to be part of the president's job to deal with more than one thing at once,'' Obama said.

Both men said they wanted to reach a bipartisan solution to the credit crisis. McCain said the Bush administration's $700 billion proposal to rescue struggling financial companies and unlock credit markets won't pass Congress in its current form.

``It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the administration's proposal,'' McCain said in New York. ``We are running out of time.''

The financial crisis has overshadowed the presidential campaign and both candidates have been seeking to demonstrate their leadership on the issue. McCain and Obama this week largely agreed on conditions they want included in any rescue plan, including limits on executive pay and a mechanism to recoup taxpayer money.

Trading Calls

Obama said he called McCain this morning to discuss issuing a joint statement about their principles. McCain wasn't available and the Arizona senator returned his call about 2:30 p.m., according to both campaigns.

Obama said McCain mentioned the idea of meeting with congressional leaders in Washington and the possibility of delaying the debate, scheduled for Friday, though no firm agreement was reached.

At 2:35 p.m. McCain addressed reporters in New York to say he would suspend campaigning and wanted to postpone the debate. The Illinois senator indicated McCain's announcement caught him by surprise.

``I thought this was something he was mulling over, apparently this was something he was more decisive about in his own mind,'' Obama said at a hastily arranged news conference in Clearwater, Florida.

The two candidates tonight released a joint statement calling on member of Congress from both parties to work together toward a solution.

``This is a time to rise above politics for the good of the country. We cannot risk an economic catastrophe,'' the statement, released by Obama's campaign, said.

Campaign Suspension

Mark Salter, a McCain adviser, wouldn't say how long the candidate would put his campaign on hold. He said the goal was to finish a bailout plan ``before markets open on Monday.''

The suspension means McCain won't hold any campaign events and won't advertise, according to Salter.

McCain has been trailing Obama in recent polls and the gap has widened as the financial-markets crisis has unfolded.

The move by McCain may be seen as ``desperate,'' said Linda Fowler, a government professor at Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire. ``He has been trying to change the conversation every time the press and public starts paying attention to the issues,'' she said.

Historians noted that the Civil War, the Great Depression and World War II didn't prompt suspensions of presidential campaigns.

``McCain's move should be judged too clever by half,'' said Stephen Hess, a scholar at the Brookings Institution in Washington.

Political Maneuver

Even so, McCain's plan leaves Obama in the position of either following McCain's lead or potentially being seen as less presidential for focusing more on the campaign, said Paul Light, a public service professor at New York University.

``The suspension does bring the `ready-to-lead' issue back into focus for McCain,'' Light said. ``Obama is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.''

Reaction in Congress fell along partisan lines. Representative John Boehner of Ohio, the Republican leader in the House, said he ``strongly'' supported McCain's call for action. Senator Richard Durbin of Illinois, an Obama supporter, said the move may add more political maneuvering to the debate.

``Bringing a presidential campaign into this atmosphere is not going to make it easier,'' he said.

Ohio Governor Ted Strickland, a Democrat supporting Obama, concurred. ``The last thing we need is to transfer the presidential campaign to Washington, D.C.,'' Strickland said.

Debate Commission

The Commission on Presidential Debates and the University of Mississippi, the venue for the event, said they both were planning for the debate to go forward.

``We are ready to host the debate, and we expect the debate to occur as planned,'' the Oxford, Mississippi-based university said in a statement on its Web site.

As part of his plan, McCain also called on President George W. Bush to convene a meeting with congressional leaders to work on a rescue plan. The administration tonight announced that Bush did invite McCain, Obama and leaders of the House and Senate to a meeting tomorrow. Both campaigns have accepted.

Bush spokeswoman Dana Perino said the president welcomed McCain's move.

``Bipartisan support from Senators McCain and Obama would be helpful in driving to a conclusion,'' Perino said.

Taco John
09-24-2008, 10:55 PM
Their internal polls must be hemmoraging to pull a desperate stunt like this...

|Zach|
09-24-2008, 10:56 PM
Crazy times. Some of this news couple with that Couric interview of Palin. What a mess.

Ultra Peanut
09-24-2008, 10:56 PM
So um, what are they going to do now that an agreement has been reached before McCain has even set foot in Washington?

|Zach|
09-24-2008, 10:56 PM
If McCain doesn't show up for the debate, Obama should just do an acoustic set. Maybe covers only, songs he hasn't played in a while.

Mecca
09-24-2008, 11:03 PM
If McCain doesn't show up for the debate, Obama should just do an acoustic set. Maybe covers only, songs he hasn't played in a while.

The Barack concert!

Taco John
09-24-2008, 11:06 PM
If McCain doesn't show up for the debate, Obama should just do an acoustic set. Maybe covers only, songs he hasn't played in a while.


This one's an oldie but a goodie...

HolmeZz
09-24-2008, 11:18 PM
If McCain doesn't show up for the debate, Obama should just do an acoustic set. Maybe covers only, songs he hasn't played in a while.

FREEBIRD

Ultra Peanut
09-25-2008, 12:08 AM
Oh, Wonkette:

STUPID MUPPET TRICKS
John McCain ‘Suspending’ Campaign by Campaigning More (http://wonkette.com/403009/mccain-suspending-campaign-by-campaigning-more)

McCain also “suspended campaigning” when he ran for president eight years ago. After telling the press (his base) that he was going to announce his run in March 1999, he melodramatically “postponed” the announcement because of the U.S. bombing of the Serbs in Kosovo.

On a single day during this brave non-postponement, McCain appeared on Fox News, MSNBC, Larry King, Charlie Rose and the business channels to talk about Kosovo and his suspended campaign.

Silock
09-25-2008, 12:11 AM
The Barack concert!

Barack Aid or Barackstock?

Ultra Peanut
09-25-2008, 12:13 AM
Barack Aid or Barackstock?Barack and Roll.

Jenson71
09-25-2008, 12:15 AM
We need to suspend the election. There needs to be some sort of clause in our Constitution that allows for this.

Ultra Peanut
09-25-2008, 12:18 AM
Barack Band 2

Molitoth
09-25-2008, 09:15 AM
lol @ these posts

RJ
09-25-2008, 09:25 AM
We need to suspend the election. There needs to be some sort of clause in our Constitution that allows for this.



Cheney is discussing that with Bush as we speak. But first they'll need some money.....say maybe $700B or so.

jettio
09-25-2008, 09:41 AM
McCain is a twerp. Notice how his best buddies Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham are twerp-like also.

I don't think putting little twerps in charge is what our country needs right now.

The reason why McCain is unpopular amongst his peers is not that he disagrees with them and takes maverick positions.

The reason why McCain is unpopular with his peers is because he pulls twerp-like stunts to try to make himself look good and make others look bad.

McCain is nothing but a little twerp.

Donger
09-25-2008, 09:45 AM
McCain is a twerp. Notice how his best buddies Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham are twerp-like also.

I don't think putting little twerps in charge is what our country needs right now.

The reason why McCain is unpopular amongst his peers is not that he disagrees with them and takes maverick positions.

The reason why McCain is unpopular with his peers is because he pulls twerp-like stunts to try to make himself look good and make others look bad.

McCain is nothing but a little twerp.

Well, I'm sold. I'm voting for Barack Hussein now!

ROFL

L.A. Chieffan
09-25-2008, 09:46 AM
Well, I'm sold. I'm voting for Barack Hussein now!

ROFL

Are you?

penchief
09-25-2008, 09:48 AM
Well, I'm sold. I'm voting for Barack Hussein now!

ROFL

Why not just vote for Barack Obama instead? Seems like this dark horse of yours doesn't have much of a chance even if McCain is showing his true colors.

xbarretx
09-25-2008, 03:22 PM
If McCain doesn't show up for the debate, Obama should just do an acoustic set. Maybe covers only, songs he hasn't played in a while.

until someone comes out and points the the "No stairway" sign :shake:

No stairway...!? Denied!

Amnorix
09-25-2008, 03:27 PM
McCain is a twerp. Notice how his best buddies Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham are twerp-like also.

I don't think putting little twerps in charge is what our country needs right now.

McCain is nothing but a little twerp.

Stop.

jettio
09-25-2008, 04:19 PM
Stop.

Good Advice.

I just can't look at McCain and not notice how that poor guy got his conscience field dressed by his new campaign advisors.

But I can take good advice. I will quit posting about the twerp.

banyon
09-25-2008, 05:48 PM
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Despite "Suspension" Of Campaign, Two McCain Advisers Attacked Obama Today
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/despite_suspension_of_campaign.php

By Greg Sargent - September 25, 2008, 12:00PM
McCain's suspension of his campaign apparently doesn't apply to his own advisers.

Despite McCain's claim that he's put his campaign on hold, two of them directly attacked Barack Obama in political terms on television this morning.

On Fox about an hour ago, McCain adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer was asked about Obama's suggestion that the bailout deal appeared to be adopting some of his suggestions.

"We don't want to focus too much on that right now because we want there to be a resolution," Pfotenhauer said, a bit later adding:

"But this is maybe perhaps part of the pattern that we've seen before where Senator Obama would claim that the housing bill came out of his committe--and he didn't even sit on the committee. or that the stimulus package was his package and even his democratic leader said that it wasn't."

So McCain's adviser accuses Obama of falsely taking credit for stuff. Does that count as running a campaign?

Meanwhile, a few minutes ago on Fox, McCain spokesperson Tucker Bounds was asked whether there would be a debate on Friday.

"Certainly, John McCain is eager to debate Barack Obama on these important issues, because he has a record of actually performing on the issues that are going to be debated," Bounds said. "And additionally he's called on Barack Obama time after time to meet him anytime, anywhere, in joint town hall meetings. So the idea that there's a debate about the debates, I just think, is absurd."

So this McCain adviser said Obama doesn't have any record of performing on the issues and is too chicken to face McCain in town hall meetings. Does that count as running a campaign?

Calling out the campaign-suspension fib is kind of useless at a certain point, of course, since the original claim is inherently so ridiculous and borderline meaningless anyway. The suspension itself is a political act, after all.

McCain's eventual position on the bailout will be political, too -- and there's nothing wrong with that. Politics is all about arguing about stuff and deciding what to do about it. The idea that there's some kind of clear line between politics and policy or leadership is a bit of a silly construct to begin with, McCain's phony piety notwithstanding.

Late Update: Here's the video of Pfotenhauer on Fox

McCain Campaign Still Active Across The Country
September 25, 2008 03:55 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/25/mccain-campaign-still-act_n_129327.html


McCain declared on Wednesday that he would suspend his run for the White House and return to Washington to help resolve the country's economic crisis. But while the candidate himself left the trail, the campaign itself is decidedly still open for business.

Across the country, McCain campaign offices are up and running, accepting volunteers, conducting phone banking, literature dropping and other GOTV activities. This held true on a local, state, and even regional level. The Huffington Post called up 15 McCain-Palin and McCain Victory Committee headquarters in various battleground states. Not one said that it was temporarily halting operations because of the supposed "suspension" in the campaign. Several, in fact, enthusiastically declared the continuation of their work. Others hadn't even heard that the candidate for whom they were devoting their time had officially stopped campaigning.

In Ohio, Brenda Lewis of the Greene County Victory Office seemed surprised there was any doubt that the office would be open. "Suspension of the campaign?" she asked out loud, before saying that her colleagues would be phone banking, going door to door, and could use some front desk help as well as assistance getting signs together. Similar level of activities were taking place in the state's Franklin County and Clark County offices.

In Ashland County, Ohio, a McCain worker named Ken confirmed, "We're still campaigning for him." He added, "I'm taking off in two hours. A Japanese couple will be watching the shop after, but they're very anglocized."

An official at McCain's Missouri headquarters welcomed more volunteer work. "It is not the suspension of the thing that is going on, it is a postponement," she said over the phone. "We are not shut down. Everything is still going on."

A man named David working at the Senator's office in Fairfax, Virginia, said, "We are not suspending any of our activity, not the phone banking nor the volunteering..."

The same held true in the state's Richmond and Charlottesville "victory centers."

Down in Florida, another swing state, work did not cease. An official in the "Southeast Regional Headquarters" acknowledged that "things are really quiet here" on Thursday. But, he added, "as a matter of fact, we have volunteers working in phone bank downstairs."

In McCain's West Regional Headquarters based in Nevada, an official named Alex said they still were accepting volunteers. In the Colorado Victory Headquarters, an aide said people were doing phone banking today and were "setting up to walk around Friday, Saturday, and Sunday." And in McCain's North Mountain Regional Headquarters, based in Minnesota, the offices, an official said, would be open until 8:30 in the evening. In fact, of the 15 offices the Huffington Post called, only one, Palm Beach in Florida did not have an official pick up the phone.

McCain, clearly, may be leaving the campaign trail - in addition to removing his television advertisement from the air - but the campaign itself rages on. Earlier in the day, Greg Sargent at Talking Points Memo reported that aides to the Senator had gone on cable news, Thursday, to deliver attacks against Barack Obama. Jake Tapper at ABC, meanwhile, reported that when McCain and Obama met President Bush in the White House today, it was the Republican who brought with him a campaign aide and the still-campaigning Democrat who brought along a Senate staffer.