View Full Version : General Politics Baha, McCain puts out ad with NObama's agreement quotes
memyselfI
09-26-2008, 10:17 PM
Well that didn't take long. ROFL
http://stuckon-stupid.com/2008/09/26/mccains-first-post-debate-video-ad/
HolmeZz
09-26-2008, 10:19 PM
Biden did this during the primary.
Needless to say it didn't do him much good.
Mr. Kotter
09-26-2008, 10:19 PM
Yeah....that's why I said earlier I didn't like that.
I figured something like this would be coming. Rare slip-up on the Obama team's part in not preventing this.
That said, it ain't gonna matter.
the Talking Can
09-26-2008, 10:20 PM
you really don't understand politics, at all
obama did that for a reason...a smart reason...independents like it...
you = fail
memyselfI
09-26-2008, 10:21 PM
you really don't understand politics, at all
obama did that for a reason...a smart reason...independents like it...
you = fail
Independents like that NObama agrees with McCain so they will vote for NObama? :rolleyes:
He did this because he didn't have an answer. He piggy backed Hillary's response many times. She called him on it. I bet Bill suggested this ad. ROFL
the Talking Can
09-26-2008, 10:21 PM
Yeah....that's why I said earlier I didn't like that.
I figured something like this would be coming. Rare slip-up on the Obama team's part in not preventing this.
That said, it ain't gonna matter.
it was done on purpose...that phrase was focus grouped...the crowd being monitored by cnn liked it, i read somewhere...don't have a link
the Talking Can
09-26-2008, 10:22 PM
Independents like that NObama agrees with McCain so they will vote for NObama? :rolleyes:
god, you are so stupid....
i can't even explain it to you in children's terms....
Mr. Kotter
09-26-2008, 10:25 PM
it was done on purpose...that phrase was focus grouped...the crowd being monitored by cnn liked it, i read somewhere...don't have a link
I can see that if they were targeting Indepdent/Moderate types, as they should be. It just seemed kind of unnecessary, when some of us would like to see his differences with McCain emphasized more--and I suspect we'll see that some in the next two debates.
Ultra Peanut
09-26-2008, 10:25 PM
Anyone who believes this shoddy ad will do ANYTHING to sway independents is almost as well-informed as Sarah Palin.
memyselfI
09-26-2008, 10:25 PM
it was done on purpose...that phrase was focus grouped...the crowd being monitored by cnn liked it, i read somewhere...don't have a link
I digress, it would be typical of NObama's entire heavily orchestrated campaign.
Independents like that NObama agrees with McCain so they will vote for NObama? :rolleyes:
He did this because he didn't have an answer. He piggy backed Hillary's response many times. She called him on it. I bet Bill suggested this ad. ROFL
They like that Obama doesn't act like a dickhead and is able to acknowledge areas where he agrees with his opponent. Many people appreciate that.
HolmeZz
09-26-2008, 10:26 PM
Independents like that NObama agrees with McCain so they will vote for NObama? :rolleyes:
No, independents like that Obama isn't afraid to say when he might agree with something said by an opponent. Do you understand pragmatism?
Obama's likeability is part of his appeal. Being able to show respect to people opposing him enhances that trait.
The fact that Obama treated McCain as a legitimate candidate and McCain pretended Obama didn't deserve to be on the same stage with him was noticable.
I digress, it would be typical of NObama's entire heavily orchestrated campaign.
By "heavily orchestrated" you mean well run?
memyselfI
09-26-2008, 10:28 PM
No, independents like that Obama isn't afraid to say when he might agree with something said by an opponent. Do you understand pragmatism?
Obama's likeability is part of his appeal. Being able to show respect to people opposing him enhances that trait.
The fact that Obama treated McCain as a legitimate candidate and McCain pretended Obama didn't deserve to be on the same stage with him was noticable.
Oh please. NObama continued to address a SENIOR SENATOR as John. It was intentional.
memyselfI
09-26-2008, 10:28 PM
By "heavily orchestrated" you mean well run?
No, I mean scripted.
irishjayhawk
09-26-2008, 10:28 PM
No, independents like that Obama isn't afraid to say when he might agree with something said by an opponent. Do you understand pragmatism?
Obama's likeability is part of his appeal. Being able to show respect to people opposing him enhances that trait.
The fact that Obama treated McCain as a legitimate candidate and McCain pretended Obama didn't deserve to be on the same stage with him was noticable.
I fear it was only noticeable to the above-average joe in politics.
HolmeZz
09-26-2008, 10:29 PM
By "heavily orchestrated" you mean well run?
CCW is used to watching past Democratic campaigns. She doesn't know what a good campaign looks like.
the Talking Can
09-26-2008, 10:29 PM
They like that Obama doesn't act like a dickhead and is able to acknowledge areas where he agrees with his opponent. Many people appreciate that.
No, independents like that Obama isn't afraid to say when he might agree with something said by an opponent. Do you understand pragmatism?
Obama's likeability is part of his appeal. Being able to show respect to people opposing him enhances that trait.
The fact that Obama treated McCain as a legitimate candidate and McCain pretended Obama didn't deserve to be on the same stage with him was noticable.
yes, thank you
they are targeting voters....they don't care what republicans or retards think...only "undecideds" matter now...
dense can't understand it
the Talking Can
09-26-2008, 10:30 PM
I fear it was only noticeable to the above-average joe in politics.
based on immediate polls on focus groups of "undecideds", obama won big....i think it did work...but time will tell
HolmeZz
09-26-2008, 10:31 PM
Oh please. NObama continued to address a SENIOR SENATOR as John. It was intentional.
What the hell is wrong with addressing him by his first name? The two friggin' know each other. They work in the same place. :spock:
Again, Obama addressed him as a peer. McCain looked down and talked down to Obama.
the Talking Can
09-26-2008, 10:31 PM
CBS News / Knowledge Network Undecideds Give Debate To Obama
26 Sep 2008 11:05 pm
According to CBS News / Knowledge Networks' poll of undecided voters:
40% of uncommitted voters who watched the debate tonight thought Barack Obama was the winner. 22% thought John McCain won. 38% saw it as a draw.
68% of these voters think Obama would make the right decision
about the economy. 41% think McCain would.
49% of these voters think Obama would make the right decisions about Iraq. 55% think McCain would.
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/cbs_news_knowledge_network_und.php
irishjayhawk
09-26-2008, 10:31 PM
based on immediate polls on focus groups of "undecideds", obama won big....i think it did work...but time will tell
Well, you do bring up a good point, most independents - true independents (not meme like "independents") - are going to be above-average joes. They're going to know their ass from their elbow.
VAChief
09-26-2008, 10:33 PM
What the hell is wrong with addressing him by his first name? The two friggin' know each other. They work in the same place. :spock:
Again, Obama addressed him as a peer. McCain looked down and talked down to Obama.
John was fine...now grandpa might have gone over the line.
Ultra Peanut
09-26-2008, 10:33 PM
Wait, did someone say Baha?
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memyselfI
09-26-2008, 10:34 PM
What the hell is wrong with addressing him by his first name? The two friggin' know each other. :spock:
Again, Obama addressed him as a peer. McCain looked down and talked down to Obama.
Because as colleagues he should have addressed him as such. I just feel that is proper debate form.
the Talking Can
09-26-2008, 10:35 PM
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irishjayhawk
09-26-2008, 10:36 PM
Because as colleagues he should have addressed him as such. I just feel that is proper debate form.
ROFL
Proper debate form - when between two people who know each other - is to go by title rather than first name. Hmm, I never would have guessed that.
HolmeZz
09-26-2008, 10:37 PM
Because as colleagues he should have addressed him as such. I just feel that is proper debate form.
Proper debate form? McCain wouldn't even *****ing look at Obama.
memyselfI
09-26-2008, 10:38 PM
Proper debate form? McCain wouldn't even *****ing look at Obama.
He was wrong.
Both of them showed disrespect in their actions.
the Talking Can
09-26-2008, 10:38 PM
Because as colleagues he should have addressed him as such. I just feel that is proper debate form.
you really don't know anything, do you?
Cosmos
09-26-2008, 10:39 PM
Ever consider that where there are grounds of agreement that the bigger man, the more secure man, the man willing to see further than the tip of his own nose could be seen as the one who be part of the solution of partisan politics?
Consider that in the end, the undecided, who are not in bed with a singular political philosophy would view this as a leader willing to put the BS aside and recognize a particular position as reasonable.
It's the anti-Bush.
It's a exersize in reason.
It's what the people want and what America needs.
Logical
09-26-2008, 10:40 PM
They like that Obama doesn't act like a dickhead and is able to acknowledge areas where he agrees with his opponent. Many people appreciate that.As a world leader, Bush was viewed as a cowboy and a dickhead. I think this was a smart strategy as it focuses the differences with Bush=McCain and reigns in Indy voters and women.
Donger
09-26-2008, 10:41 PM
He was wrong.
Both of them showed disrespect in their actions.
I couldn't help but notice that Biden referred to McCain as "John" as well, during his post-debate spin.
Logical
09-26-2008, 10:41 PM
Ever consider that where there are grounds of agreement that the bigger man, the more secure man, the man willing to see further than the tip of his own nose could be seen as the one who be part of the solution of partisan politics?
Consider that in the end, the undecided, who are not in bed with a singular political philosophy would view this as a leader willing to put the BS aside and recognize a particular position as reasonable.
It's the anti-Bush.
It's a exersize in reason.
It's what the people want and what America needs.:clap: You beat me to it, perfect.
I couldn't help but notice that Biden referred to McCain as "John" as well, during his post-debate spin.
I refer to all my co-workers by their first names. Don't you? Biden and McCain have known each other for a very long time.
dirk digler
09-26-2008, 10:46 PM
Ever consider that where there are grounds of agreement that the bigger man, the more secure man, the man willing to see further than the tip of his own nose could be seen as the one who be part of the solution of partisan politics?
Consider that in the end, the undecided, who are not in bed with a singular political philosophy would view this as a leader willing to put the BS aside and recognize a particular position as reasonable.
It's the anti-Bush.
It's a exersize in reason.
It's what the people want and what America needs.
Hell yeah. Nice post and end of thread
Ultra Peanut
09-26-2008, 10:48 PM
I couldn't help but notice that Biden referred to McCain as "John" as well, during his post-debate spin.This is what you and meme are reduced to. Glorious.
Logical
09-26-2008, 10:48 PM
What the hell is wrong with addressing him by his first name? The two friggin' know each other. They work in the same place. :spock:
Again, Obama addressed him as a peer. McCain looked down and talked down to Obama.
I am pretty sure McCain was reading his talking point notes. Even you should have been able to figure that out.
Calcountry
09-26-2008, 10:51 PM
They like that Obama doesn't act like a dickhead and is able to acknowledge areas where he agrees with his opponent. Many people appreciate that.
Exept left wing anti-war radicals like Michael Moore. Obama is sounding a lot more centrist there, kind of like 4 more years of a stubborn Bush.
Yep, McCain is the Change candidate.
Disagrees with Bush on looking into Putins eyes. Disagrees with Bush on the 9/11 commissions reccomendations.
That's the change we need, lmao. What a joke that McCain has been allowed to make this campaign about Obama.
Donger
09-26-2008, 10:51 PM
I refer to all my co-workers by their first names. Don't you? Biden and McCain have known each other for a very long time.
Unless I'm mistaken, protocol is that members of Congress refer to each other by their titles.
Donger
09-26-2008, 10:52 PM
This is what you and meme are reduced to. Glorious.
I'm not reducing anything. It's merely an observation.
Ultra Peanut
09-26-2008, 10:52 PM
Exept left wing anti-war radicals like Michael Moore. Obama is sounding a lot more centrist there, kind of like 4 more years of a stubborn Bush.
Yep, McCain is the Change candidate.
Disagrees with Bush on looking into Putins eyes. Disagrees with Bush on the 9/11 commissions reccomendations.
That's the change we need, lmao. What a joke that McCain has been allowed to make this campaign about Obama.So is he too liberal, or too Bushlike?
You people are complete morons.
Jenson71
09-26-2008, 10:55 PM
Ever consider that where there are grounds of agreement that the bigger man, the more secure man, the man willing to see further than the tip of his own nose could be seen as the one who be part of the solution of partisan politics?
Consider that in the end, the undecided, who are not in bed with a singular political philosophy would view this as a leader willing to put the BS aside and recognize a particular position as reasonable.
It's the anti-Bush.
It's a exersize in reason.
It's what the people want and what America needs.
you mispelled exercize,,.
Unless I'm mistaken, protocol is that members of Congress refer to each other by their titles.
Do you see this as an issue?
memyselfI
09-26-2008, 11:03 PM
This is what you and meme are reduced to. Glorious.
No, I said NObama won in principle because he didn't embarrass himself. In the end it won't matter. Mondale, Gore, and Kerry come to mind.
Donger
09-26-2008, 11:04 PM
Do you see this as an issue?
No, just pettiness.
the Talking Can
09-26-2008, 11:05 PM
No, I said NObama won in principle because he didn't embarrass himself. In the end it won't matter. Mondale, Gore, and Kerry come to mind.
you're the nick athan of political commentary
you don't have even the slightest clue, about anything...
memyselfI
09-26-2008, 11:06 PM
No, just pettiness.
Catty.
memyselfI
09-26-2008, 11:07 PM
you're the Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan of political commentary
you don't have even the slightest clue, about anything...
ROFL
Not even GWB. ;)
No, just pettiness.
Fair enough. I'm surely petty about a lot of things.
Logical
09-26-2008, 11:41 PM
Unless I'm mistaken, protocol is that members of Congress refer to each other by their titles.Link
Smed1065
09-27-2008, 12:27 AM
No, I said NObama won in principle because he didn't embarrass himself. In the end it won't matter. Mondale, Gore, and Kerry come to mind.
That was when you voted for them....
Now I bet they win. ROFL
Hell, they already win if you do not vote for them..
IMHO..
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