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RP_McMurphy
09-30-2008, 01:00 PM
http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=64731

Donger
09-30-2008, 01:04 PM
http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=64731

Cool. Virginia class?

Redrum_69
09-30-2008, 01:05 PM
Bill Gates is building ships now?

Frazod
09-30-2008, 01:06 PM
I do not like this. At all.

I realize that the battleship has been decommissioned, but considering its history, and as long as it is afloat in Pearl Harbor, there should be no other USS Missouri.

chasedude
09-30-2008, 01:06 PM
Bill Gates is building ships now?

:spock: Put down the crack pipe and step away from it.

Donger
09-30-2008, 01:07 PM
I do not like this. At all.

I realize that the battleship has been decommissioned, but considering its history, and as long as it is afloat in Pearl Harbor, there should be no other USS Missouri.

You must really hate Star Trek.

Frazod
09-30-2008, 01:09 PM
You must really hate Star Trek.

Not at all. Big difference between fictional starships and peeling the name off a legendary battleship that is still afloat and assigning it to some silly-assed submarine.

Amnorix
09-30-2008, 01:14 PM
I actually agree with Frazod. Either leave it as commissioned, or do whatever it takes to retire the name. There aren't all THAT many legendary ship names. The Missouri is one, and I dont' see recycling it.

Even if the Constitution were to be decommissioned for whatever reason, I sure as hell hope they wouldn't just name the newest whatever ship by that name for chrissakes.

Frazod
09-30-2008, 01:17 PM
I actually agree with Frazod. Either leave it as commissioned, or do whatever it takes to retire the name. There aren't all THAT many legendary ship names. The Missouri is one, and I dont' see recycling it.

Even if the Constitution were to be decommissioned for whatever reason, I sure as hell hope they wouldn't just name the newest whatever ship by that name for chrissakes.

Exactly. I feel the same way about the Intrepid. Even though it's basically a floating museum, it's still the Intrepid and the name should not be reused. It's not like there's some shortage of ship names.

Rain Man
09-30-2008, 01:18 PM
I think the battleship is the Missour-ee, and this one is the Missour-uh.

Frazod
09-30-2008, 01:19 PM
I think the battleship is the Missour-ee, and this one is the Missour-uh.

In that case, I don't mind. LMAO

Donger
09-30-2008, 01:21 PM
Not at all. Big difference between fictional starships and peeling the name off a legendary battleship that is still afloat and assigning it to some silly-assed submarine.

I was kidding, of course. Although USS Missouri-B has a nice ring to it.

triple
09-30-2008, 01:21 PM
I actually agree with Frazod. Either leave it as commissioned, or do whatever it takes to retire the name. There aren't all THAT many legendary ship names. The Missouri is one, and I dont' see recycling it.

Even if the Constitution were to be decommissioned for whatever reason, I sure as hell hope they wouldn't just name the newest whatever ship by that name for chrissakes.

i was thinking, if you had to name three legendary ships, what would they be... constitution, enterprise, missouri. maybe they should retire those names.

but it's not like this is some sampan, a modern submarine is pretty cool too and a power in its own right.

Pitt Gorilla
09-30-2008, 01:22 PM
I think the battleship is the Missour-ee, and this one is the Missour-uh.Nice. Perhaps they should ask the folks of Nevada, MO?

Frazod
09-30-2008, 01:23 PM
I was kidding, of course. Although USS Missouri-B has a nice ring to it.

That would be OK, I guess. As long as we acknowledge the other one.

Pitt Gorilla
09-30-2008, 01:35 PM
That would be OK, I guess. As long as we acknowledge the other one.USS 41-6 or USS 36-28.

Amnorix
09-30-2008, 01:39 PM
i was thinking, if you had to name three legendary ships, what would they be... constitution, enterprise, missouri. maybe they should retire those names.

but it's not like this is some sampan, a modern submarine is pretty cool too and a power in its own right.

For the US that's about right. And Enterprise is sort of hard to include because it's Hollywood made. While we've had US Navy ships by that name, of course, they haven't earned fame in such a way as to have the name retired, in my mind.

I agree that at least it's not a frigate or something silly. But still, it's either retired or not, and I'm thinking it should be retired, really.

Rain Man
09-30-2008, 01:45 PM
That's interesting to think about. We don't really have a ton of famous ships, do we? My first thought after the Constitution and the Missouri is the Bonhomme Richard, though I don't think most Americans would recognize it. Then I thought of the Yorktown. I guess the Arizona would be up there, too, though that might not be a lucky ship name. Same for the Thresher, which also popped up in my mind.

PastorMikH
09-30-2008, 01:46 PM
I do not like this. At all.

I realize that the battleship has been decommissioned, but considering its history, and as long as it is afloat in Pearl Harbor, there should be no other USS Missouri.


I agree.

Frazod
09-30-2008, 01:48 PM
i was thinking, if you had to name three legendary ships, what would they be... constitution, enterprise, missouri. maybe they should retire those names.

but it's not like this is some sampan, a modern submarine is pretty cool too and a power in its own right.

The WWII era Enterprise was not only decommissioned, but also sold as scrap. It no longer exists in any form. No harm in reusing that name, especially since it was reassigned to another carrier.

Donger
09-30-2008, 01:49 PM
That's interesting to think about. We don't really have a ton of famous ships, do we? My first thought after the Constitution and the Missouri is the Bonhomme Richard, though I don't think most Americans would recognize it. Then I thought of the Yorktown. I guess the Arizona would be up there, too, though that might not be a lucky ship name. Same for the Thresher, which also popped up in my mind.

No Turtle-love?

Rain Man
09-30-2008, 01:49 PM
Maybe PT-109 is a famous ship, too, but now about half the ships I've named have been sunk. That's not a good sign.

Frazod
09-30-2008, 01:50 PM
That's interesting to think about. We don't really have a ton of famous ships, do we? My first thought after the Constitution and the Missouri is the Bonhomme Richard, though I don't think most Americans would recognize it. Then I thought of the Yorktown. I guess the Arizona would be up there, too, though that might not be a lucky ship name. Same for the Thresher, which also popped up in my mind.

The Arizona is still technically commissioned.

Rain Man
09-30-2008, 01:50 PM
No Turtle-love?

Ah. While you may be thinking differently, the Monitor and the Merrimac are a couple of the others. Both sank at some point. What's up with this?

Donger
09-30-2008, 01:50 PM
The WWII era Enterprise was not only decommissioned, but also sold as scrap. It no longer exists in any form. No harm in reusing that name, especially since it was reassigned to another carrier.

What do you have against submarines?

JBucc
09-30-2008, 01:51 PM
Call it the USS Turd Bird

Rain Man
09-30-2008, 01:51 PM
The Arizona is still technically commissioned.

I wouldn't want to draw the bottom bunk.

PastorMikH
09-30-2008, 01:55 PM
Interestingly enough, this will be the 4th vessel dubbed Missouri. Kansas has only had 2 vessels named - and the newest was built over 100 years ago.


:)

Frazod
09-30-2008, 01:55 PM
What do you have against submarines?

Oh, nothing, really. But I was surface Navy.

Frazod
09-30-2008, 01:55 PM
I wouldn't want to draw the bottom bunk.

Or even a top one.

Demonpenz
09-30-2008, 01:56 PM
no picture of the Kansas vessel with Turf stuck in it?

PastorMikH
09-30-2008, 01:57 PM
What do you have against submarines?



If a surface ship sinks, at least you have the option of jumping and swimming. That doesn't work so well when you are 200 feet below the surface.

Bob Dole
09-30-2008, 01:59 PM
i was thinking, if you had to name three legendary ships, what would they be... constitution, enterprise, missouri. maybe they should retire those names.


What about the USS Cairo?

MIAdragon
09-30-2008, 02:01 PM
I do not like this. At all.

I realize that the battleship has been decommissioned, but considering its history, and as long as it is afloat in Pearl Harbor, there should be no other USS Missouri.

Agree 100%

Donger
09-30-2008, 02:04 PM
If a surface ship sinks, at least you have the option of jumping and swimming. That doesn't work so well when you are 200 feet below the surface.

Sure it does. Escape trunk.

"Bob" Dobbs
09-30-2008, 02:12 PM
When I first saw the headline of this thread, my first thought was that EVERYTHING was beating Claythan to it.

Chief Chief
09-30-2008, 02:18 PM
I heard from a really reliable source that Bonhomme Richard needed tons of Viagra before scoring with her keel.

Frazod
09-30-2008, 02:23 PM
I heard from a really reliable source that Bonhomme Richard needed tons of Viagra before scoring with her keel.

Heh. Most people won't get that. :D

Bweb
09-30-2008, 03:12 PM
i was thinking, if you had to name three legendary ships, what would they be... constitution, enterprise, missouri. maybe they should retire those names.

but it's not like this is some sampan, a modern submarine is pretty cool too and a power in its own right.

SS Minnow :)

StcChief
09-30-2008, 03:55 PM
I think the battleship is the Missour-ee, and this one is the Missour-uh.
one for the Out-staters....one for town folk. ROFL

chasedude
09-30-2008, 04:12 PM
Santa maria, Nina, and Pinta FTW!

Adept Havelock
09-30-2008, 04:25 PM
I do not like this. At all.

I realize that the battleship has been decommissioned, but considering its history, and as long as it is afloat in Pearl Harbor, there should be no other USS Missouri.

I agree wholeheartedly.

The only USS Missouri should be the one currently at anchor next to the grave of the USS Arizona.

Programmer
09-30-2008, 04:29 PM
Virginia Class Cutaway (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ee/Virginia_Class_Cutaway.jpg).

Amnorix
09-30-2008, 04:32 PM
That's interesting to think about. We don't really have a ton of famous ships, do we? My first thought after the Constitution and the Missouri is the Bonhomme Richard, though I don't think most Americans would recognize it. Then I thought of the Yorktown. I guess the Arizona would be up there, too, though that might not be a lucky ship name. Same for the Thresher, which also popped up in my mind.


Arizona yes. I doubt 10% of Americans would have any clue about the Bonhomme Richard or the Thresher. Not even to name them as ships, much less what they did.

Programmer
09-30-2008, 04:33 PM
Arizona yes. I doubt 10% of Americans would have any clue about the Bonhomme Richard or the Thresher. Not even to name them as ships, much less what they did.

You know about the Bonhomme Richard? Do you know her nickname?

Amnorix
09-30-2008, 04:35 PM
The WWII era Enterprise was not only decommissioned, but also sold as scrap. It no longer exists in any form. No harm in reusing that name, especially since it was reassigned to another carrier.


Enterprise is an interesting one, however. It holds an unusual place in our national consciousness. The Space Shuttle, etc.

But yes, to the USN, it's probably not all that special a name, really. No moreso than Yorktown or Lexington or anything.

Amnorix
09-30-2008, 04:36 PM
Ah. While you may be thinking differently, the Monitor and the Merrimac are a couple of the others. Both sank at some point. What's up with this?

I thought of the Monitor and Merrimac too, but they weren't really famous for an accomplishment so much as just being the first of their kind, revolutionizing naval warfare. They didn't actually ACHIEVE anything all that exciting except to exist.

Amnorix
09-30-2008, 04:40 PM
What about the USS Cairo?


I had to look it up. Once I did, I remembered the story, though not the name. I dont' think it qualifies. Not even close.

Frazod
09-30-2008, 04:44 PM
Enterprise is an interesting one, however. It holds an unusual place in our national consciousness. The Space Shuttle, etc.

But yes, to the USN, it's probably not all that special a name, really. No moreso than Yorktown or Lexington or anything.

I remember when my ship unloaded supplies to the Enterprise once - over the 1MC (loudspeaker) it was announced "On the Concord, the USS Enterprise is approaching to starboard," and just hearing that put me in a state of awe. But it was just the Trek geek in me, and had little if anything to do with being awed by the actual naval vessel. We unrepped several other carriers, and I never felt that way about the Nimitz, Eisenhower or Kennedy.

Programmer
09-30-2008, 04:44 PM
Enterprise is an interesting one, however. It holds an unusual place in our national consciousness. The Space Shuttle, etc.

But yes, to the USN, it's probably not all that special a name, really. No moreso than Yorktown or Lexington or anything.

I'd say you need to ask those in the USN whether they think the Enterprise is a sacred name. First of the Super Carriers to be nuclear powered, and the fastest ship of it's era. I saw a rooster tail on the USS Enterprise when it was passing us on the way home from the Vietnam War. It was as high as the flight deck. I haven't witnessed any of the other carriers throwing that much water since.

No other carrier has had a similar silhouette, it is truly a unique vessel.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-30-2008, 05:37 PM
World War II ended on that deck.

Under Siege took place there.

A Cher video took place there.


Don't these people have any respect for history?

Rain Man
09-30-2008, 07:15 PM
You know about the Bonhomme Richard? Do you know her nickname?


Um.............................the Bonhomme Dick?

Frazod
09-30-2008, 07:23 PM
Um.............................the Bonhomme Dick?

The Bonhomme Richard was named in honor of the original horny old American male, Benjamin Franklin.

Fairplay
09-30-2008, 07:26 PM
World War II ended on that deck.

Under Siege took place there.

Don't these people have any respect for history?



Erika Eleniak popping out of the cake alone was worth the price of admission.

Programmer
09-30-2008, 07:32 PM
Um.............................the Bonhomme Dick?

Close but no cigar.

Bonnie Dick.

Programmer
09-30-2008, 07:37 PM
World War II ended on that deck.

Under Siege took place there.

A Cher video took place there.


Don't these people have any respect for history?

WWII ending on Deck? Yes.
Cher video? Yes.
Under Siege? No. The ship was the named vessel in the movie but very little footage was shot on deck. The majority of the filming was onboard the USS Alabama BB60. Underway scenes were filmed and some of the footage was actually the USS Missouri, the rest were of other Iowa Class battleships.

CrazyPhuD
09-30-2008, 09:06 PM
So when do they start installing the screen doors?