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ArrowheadHawk
10-02-2008, 08:55 PM
EliteXC/CBS - 10/4 : Fight Card
<table class="fightcard"><tbody><tr class="withborder"> <td class="left"> Kimbo Slice (http://kimboslice.proelite.com/)
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 250
Style: Boxing, Street...

</td> <td class="avatar">http://assets.proelite.com/media/photos/1/0/7/7/6/107765/107765_agjvbgbjki_avatar.jpg (http://kimboslice.proelite.com/)
</td> <td class="vs">vs</td> <td class="avatar">http://assets.proelite.com/media/photos/6/9/4/694/694_jpznjvsyrm_avatar.jpg (http://kenshamrock.proelite.com/)
</td> <td class="right"> Ken Shamrock (http://kenshamrock.proelite.com/)
Height: 6'0"
Weight: N/A
Style: Boxing, Combat...

</td> </tr> <tr class="withborder"> <td class="left"> Jake Shields (http://jakeshields.proelite.com/)
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 170
Style: Brazilian...

</td> <td class="avatar">http://assets.proelite.com/media/photos/9/8/9/8/8/98988/98988_xqjxogezad_avatar.jpg (http://jakeshields.proelite.com/)
</td> <td class="vs">vs</td> <td class="avatar">http://assets.proelite.com/media/photos/4/6/5/9/4659/4659_ruqrgpmfks_avatar.jpg (http://pauldaley.proelite.com/)
</td> <td class="right"> Paul Daley (http://pauldaley.proelite.com/)
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 170
Style: Mixed Martial...

</td> </tr> <tr class="withborder"> <td class="left"> Andrei Arlovski (http://andreiarlovski.proelite.com/)
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 240
Style: Boxing, Kickboxing, ...

</td> <td class="avatar">http://assets.proelite.com/media/photos/1/4/0/0/1400/1400_cppeyoelcj_avatar.jpg (http://andreiarlovski.proelite.com/)
</td> <td class="vs">vs</td> <td class="avatar">http://assets.proelite.com/media/photos/5/9/6/5/5965/5965_mrhsgasgdf_avatar.jpg (http://roynelson.proelite.com/)
</td> <td class="right"> Roy Nelson (http://roynelson.proelite.com/)
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 265
Style: Mixed Martial Arts

</td> </tr> <tr class="withborder"> <td class="left"> Gina Carano (http://ginacarano.proelite.com/)
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 140
Style: Boxing, Jujitsu, Mix...

</td> <td class="avatar">http://assets.proelite.com/media/photos/8/2/2/1/6/82216/82216_lhcaarhtoa_avatar.jpg (http://ginacarano.proelite.com/)
</td> <td class="vs">vs</td> <td class="avatar">http://assets.proelite.com/media/photos/1/2/5/8/0/125804/125804_qwohyrloiv_avatar.jpg (http://kellykobald.proelite.com/)
</td> <td class="right"> Kelly Kobald (http://kellykobald.proelite.com/)
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 140
Style: N/A

</td></tr></tbody></table>

ArrowheadHawk
10-02-2008, 08:56 PM
This looks like an entertaining card.

TrickyNicky
10-02-2008, 10:50 PM
Kobold vs Carano
Arlovski vs Nelson

Should be entertaining.

Shamrock vs Kimbo is going to be funny at least.

Third Eye
10-02-2008, 11:04 PM
I personally can't wait till Elite folds.

boogblaster
10-02-2008, 11:10 PM
Kimbo is mean but Shamrock is old and skilled ... either way on that one ...

TrickyNicky
10-02-2008, 11:11 PM
Trust me on this. Kimbo KO's Shamrock in the 1st. Bet the house on it.

KcMizzou
10-02-2008, 11:57 PM
I'm forced to choose...

I'll be watching Mizzou vs. Nebraska.

Shamrock vs. Slice is a Has been vs. a Never was.

ArrowheadHawk
10-03-2008, 07:53 AM
I'm forced to choose...

I'll be watching Mizzou vs. Nebraska.

Shamrock vs. Slice is a Has been vs. a Never was.
If Kimbo wins they would have to give him a real opponent, right?

El Jefe
10-03-2008, 08:04 AM
Kimbo is mean but Shamrock is old and skilled ... either way on that one ...

Your Kidding right? Shamrock is going to get his face beat in, Kimbo with the knockout in the 1st round. I wish they would pin Kimbo (the golden boy) against someone who is actually good, not someone who was good.

El Jefe
10-03-2008, 08:05 AM
If Kimbo wins they would have to give him a real opponent, right?

No they are gonna milk him for every penny before they pin him against a real fighter, he is making them too much money.

TrickyNicky
10-03-2008, 09:41 AM
I don't fault Kimbo for wanting to make as much money as possible. And people will pay to watch him beat up "Legends" for the next 2 years. Then probably a rematch with that Gannon guy that leaned on him for 20 minutes.

TrickyNicky
10-03-2008, 09:54 AM
I hope EliteXC never dies. There are too many good fighters in the US that Dana won't pay for whatever reason, and there are people who want to see them.

Plus they give us this little nugget:

Venue TBA

November 8th on Showtime

EliteXC Lightweight Title: Eddie Alvarez vs Nick Diaz
EliteXC Middleweight Title: Robbie Lawler vs Joe Villasenor
Brett Rogers vs TBA
Rafael Feijao vs TBA

Seriously. Thats one of the best matchups they could put on and they are doing it. I'm hyped.

El Jefe
10-03-2008, 11:15 AM
I don't fault Kimbo for wanting to make as much money as possible. And people will pay to watch him beat up "Legends" for the next 2 years. Then probably a rematch with that Gannon guy that leaned on him for 20 minutes.

Gannon beat the crap out of him, he dominated him. Gannon's face got beat up but Kimbo was taking punishment and he wouldn't get up, he just kept bending over like some out of shape puss.

raybec 4
10-03-2008, 12:14 PM
I hope EliteXC never dies. There are too many good fighters in the US that Dana won't pay for whatever reason, and there are people who want to see them.

Plus they give us this little nugget:

Venue TBA

November 8th on Showtime

EliteXC Lightweight Title: Eddie Alvarez vs Nick Diaz
EliteXC Middleweight Title: Robbie Lawler vs Joe Villasenor
Brett Rogers vs TBA
Rafael Feijao vs TBA

Seriously. Thats one of the best matchups they could put on and they are doing it. I'm hyped.

Lawler/ Smokin Joe will be good too. Villasenor is underrated. Eddie Alvarez is super tough, I think he could give Diaz a run for his money.

raybec 4
10-03-2008, 12:15 PM
If Kimbo wins they would have to give him a real opponent, right?

As long as he's in Elite, he won't fight anyone legit. They can't afford to have their golden child get blasted.

BigCatDaddy
10-03-2008, 12:16 PM
Your Kidding right? Shamrock is going to get his face beat in, Kimbo with the knockout in the 1st round. I wish they would pin Kimbo (the golden boy) against someone who is actually good, not someone who was good.

Shamrock was good?

ElGringo
10-03-2008, 12:21 PM
One thing I have learned watching Elite, they never the golden child against what they consider a real opponent. I know everyone is pointing it out with Kimbo, but Gina is the same way. I enjoy watching the womens fights, sometimes a lot better than the men. I don't like to watch Gina though, she is always against someone she will handily beat. I will still watch and enjoy the matchups, but wish they would stop protecting the people they have invested in.

TrickyNicky
10-03-2008, 01:14 PM
I just want to see Tara Larosa and Gina fight. The two big names in American Women's MMA.

BIG_DADDY
10-03-2008, 02:48 PM
I just want to see Tara Larosa and Gina fight. The two big names in American Women's MMA.

I'm diggin on Gina too

LocoChiefsFan
10-03-2008, 02:52 PM
I hope EliteXC never dies. There are too many good fighters in the US that Dana won't pay for whatever reason, and there are people who want to see them.
I like watching Strikeforce on NBC. They have alot of good fighters too.

Third Eye
10-03-2008, 04:05 PM
I hope EliteXC never dies. There are too many good fighters in the US that Dana won't pay for whatever reason, and there are people who want to see them.



And that is exactly why I hope Elite fails (because I HATE the way they run their business) and Affliction succeeds. Right now there are two many organizations vying for viewership and the result is watered events and classes with belts meaning little. I think the Affliction/Golden Boy Promotions deal is going to bring in millions of new viewers and hopefully really get the ball moving in the right direction.

El Pendejo
10-03-2008, 04:11 PM
One thing I have learned watching Elite, they never the golden child against what they consider a real opponent. I know everyone is pointing it out with Kimbo, but Gina is the same way. I enjoy watching the womens fights, sometimes a lot better than the men. I don't like to watch Gina though, she is always against someone she will handily beat. I will still watch and enjoy the matchups, but wish they would stop protecting the people they have invested in.

Yeah...that's another reason the UFC is superior. They immediately threw Lesnar in against Mir, and Herring. Next up for him is Couture. Too be fair though Kevin Ferguson is pretty much all EliteXC has going. They do have some good fighters, but they step all over their own dicks with their nonsense. They recently stripped KJ Noons (who is a douche) because he wouldn't take a re-match with Crazy Nick Diaz. Noons wanted to fight Eddie Alvarez. Now Alvarez is slated to fight Diaz for the vacant title. It's overly dramatic, and silly. Their events also come off as shady. Did anyone see the post fight press conference after the Slice/Thompson fiasco. Kevin couldn't even make it because he was so exhausted. Gary Shaw said that Thompson was severely hurt and wouldn't be making it to the PC...as he was en route to the hospital. Right on cue in walks Thompson...in fine health aside from his mangled ear.

Carano is a joke. She's hot and everything, but they created a special weight class for her (140) and she can't even make it...not even close. Hopefully she makes it through this fight, and EliteXC is forced to match her up with Cyborg.

I'll still watch the fights though. I want to see how Shamrock throws this one. If you saw his last fight in Cage Rage you know what I'm talking about.

Bwana
10-03-2008, 04:11 PM
Trust me on this. Kimbo KO's Shamrock in the 1st. Bet the house on it.

Kimbo will do fine UNLESS, Shamrock gets in close and chokes him out, or takes him out with an armbar. Shamrock in his prime would have killed him.

CoMoChief
10-03-2008, 04:15 PM
Kimbo should have lost the last fight.

Shamrock (now) is just as pathetic......but I guess he needs money otherwise he wouldnt ever come back into the ring for another embarrassment.

CoMoChief
10-03-2008, 04:16 PM
If the fight goes the the ground Kimbo has absolutely no chance at all.

JASONSAUTO
10-03-2008, 04:28 PM
Kimbo will do fine UNLESS, Shamrock gets in close and chokes him out, or takes him out with an armbar. Shamrock in his prime would have killed him.

agreed, The guy who asked if shamrock was ever good must not have watched some of the early ufcs.

Wreckloose
10-03-2008, 07:05 PM
Kimbo should have lost the last fight.

Shamrock (now) is just as pathetic......but I guess he needs money otherwise he wouldnt ever come back into the ring for another embarrassment.

Is Frank helping call this event? It would be funny if he said something along these lines.

macdawg
10-03-2008, 07:11 PM
If the fight goes the the ground Kimbo has absolutely no chance at all.

Ken's dominance on the ground ended in the 90's, Kimbo will maul him standing up, on the ground, wherever. He's been training with top people for about two years, is a much bigger and stronger guy and Ken wouldn't be able to take him down anyway, and if he did Ken has 1 win by submission in the last 10 years or so over a guy who is 6-17, and one win total since 2002.

Kimbo by whatever he wants.

ArrowheadHawk
10-03-2008, 08:39 PM
Ken's dominance on the ground ended in the 90's, Kimbo will maul him standing up, on the ground, wherever. He's been training with top people for about two years, is a much bigger and stronger guy and Ken wouldn't be able to take him down anyway, and if he did Ken has 1 win by submission in the last 10 years or so over a guy who is 6-17, and one win total since 2002.

Kimbo by whatever he wants.Hopefully it is entertaining.

ragedogg69
10-03-2008, 09:00 PM
Carano is a joke. She's hot and everything, but they created a special weight class for her (140) and she can't even make it...not even close. Hopefully she makes it through this fight, and EliteXC is forced to match her up with Cyborg.


FYI. Gina barely made weight today. after the 3rd try. and after she had to STRIP DOWN NAKED! if only EliteXC allowed fans to attend the weigh ins like the UFC. I bet you there would be video. :D

http://mma.fanhouse.com/2008/10/03/gina-carano-takes-off-her-clothes-to-make-weight-for-elitexc-fig/

Ebolapox
10-03-2008, 09:08 PM
I'm diggin on Gina too

I'm diggin on her bewbies.

TrickyNicky
10-04-2008, 05:53 PM
Apparently Ken vs Kimbo was called off after Ken was injured, but he was cleared to fight by FSAC Dr. B. Franklin.

ArrowheadHawk
10-04-2008, 05:55 PM
Apparently Ken vs Kimbo was called off after Ken was injured, but he was cleared to fight by FSAC Dr. B. Franklin.So is the fight off or on?

ragedogg69
10-04-2008, 05:56 PM
Ken Shamrock out of "EliteXC: Heat" due to injury
by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Oct 04, 2008 at 6:34 pm ET
An undisclosed injury has forced Ken Shamrock out of his "EliteXC: Heat" main event bout with Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson just hours before the heavyweight clash was set to air on network television.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) has confirmed with EliteXC officials that Shamrock suffered an in jury within the past 24 hours and will not be able to compete in tonight's main event.

EliteXC officials are scrambling for a last-second replacement to fill in for Shamrock against undefeated Ferguson.

The Shamrock-Ferguson fight was set to headline the third installment of CBS' "Saturday Night Fight" series. Tonight's event takes place at the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla.

The 44-year-old Shamrock, who has not registered a win since 2004, last appeared in action in a March Cage Rage event. Shamrock suffered a first-round knockout in that affair to Robert "Buzz" Berry.

Stay tuned to the MMAjunkie.com live results post for additional updates on this story.

ArrowheadHawk
10-04-2008, 05:57 PM
Ken Shamrock out of "EliteXC: Heat" due to injury
by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Oct 04, 2008 at 6:34 pm ET
An undisclosed injury has forced Ken Shamrock out of his "EliteXC: Heat" main event bout with Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson just hours before the heavyweight clash was set to air on network television.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com (http://www.mmajunkie.com)) has confirmed with EliteXC officials that Shamrock suffered an in jury within the past 24 hours and will not be able to compete in tonight's main event.

EliteXC officials are scrambling for a last-second replacement to fill in for Shamrock against undefeated Ferguson.

The Shamrock-Ferguson fight was set to headline the third installment of CBS' "Saturday Night Fight" series. Tonight's event takes place at the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla.

The 44-year-old Shamrock, who has not registered a win since 2004, last appeared in action in a March Cage Rage event. Shamrock suffered a first-round knockout in that affair to Robert "Buzz" Berry.

Stay tuned to the MMAjunkie.com live results post for additional updates on this story.They should put Kimbo vs Arlovski.

TrickyNicky
10-04-2008, 05:58 PM
On. For the moment. Ken got a cut in the last 24 hours above his eye. Last minute training, supposedly. Then they scrambled to find a doctor who could medically clear him to fight.

They also skipped the Seth Petruzelli fight in case Shamrock can't go. Personally, I'd rather see that.

KcMizzou
10-04-2008, 05:58 PM
Apparently Ken vs Kimbo was called off after Ken was injured, but he was cleared to fight by CSAC Dr. B. Franklin.Seriously? What a f***ing joke.

Can't believe these fools got on network TV.

TrickyNicky
10-04-2008, 06:00 PM
They'll find someone. Ken will dive. Everyone will be happy. It's the Shaw way.

ArrowheadHawk
10-04-2008, 06:03 PM
Seriously? What a f***ing joke.

Can't believe these fools got on network TV.Too bad it wasn't the UFC that got the deal.

TrickyNicky
10-04-2008, 06:05 PM
UFC didn't want to give up control of their product. Dana may be a fuckstick, but as a promoter he is just light years ahead of everyone else.

Bwana
10-04-2008, 06:05 PM
Ken Shamrock out of "EliteXC: Heat" due to injury
by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Oct 04, 2008 at 6:34 pm ET
An undisclosed injury has forced Ken Shamrock out of his "EliteXC: Heat" main event bout with Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson just hours before the heavyweight clash was set to air on network television.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com (http://www.mmajunkie.com)) has confirmed with EliteXC officials that Shamrock suffered an in jury within the past 24 hours and will not be able to compete in tonight's main event.

EliteXC officials are scrambling for a last-second replacement to fill in for Shamrock against undefeated Ferguson.

The Shamrock-Ferguson fight was set to headline the third installment of CBS' "Saturday Night Fight" series. Tonight's event takes place at the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla.

The 44-year-old Shamrock, who has not registered a win since 2004, last appeared in action in a March Cage Rage event. Shamrock suffered a first-round knockout in that affair to Robert "Buzz" Berry.

Stay tuned to the MMAjunkie.com live results post for additional updates on this story.

They will find some stiff chump loser for Kimbo to lay out. It should be a fast fight.

KcMizzou
10-04-2008, 06:05 PM
Too bad it wasn't the UFC that got the deal.Yeah... The UFC wasn't willing to bend over for CBS.

It'll happen eventually, though. (The network TV, not the bending over.) :)

TrickyNicky
10-04-2008, 06:07 PM
They should give him to Arlovski. If AA wins, you hopefully push him into a bigger draw. If Kimbo wins, you make him much more credible.

ArrowheadHawk
10-04-2008, 06:07 PM
Yeah... The UFC wasn't willing to bend over for CBS.

It'll happen eventually, though. (The network TV, not the bending over.) :)Glad you clarified that.

KcMizzou
10-04-2008, 06:08 PM
They should give him to Arlovski. If AA wins, you hopefully push him into a bigger draw. If Kimbo wins, you make him much more credible.Arlovski would dismantle Kimbo.

Now that, I'd pay to see.

chop
10-04-2008, 06:08 PM
At the same time this event is going on they are showing the Griffen vs. Jackson fight on Spike. I didn't get to see this fight live but I might watch it tonight.

ArrowheadHawk
10-04-2008, 06:09 PM
Arlovski would dismantle Kimbo.

Now that, I'd pay to see.Eventually Kimbo will have to fight somebody with some talent. Bas Ruten better have him ready.

ArrowheadHawk
10-04-2008, 06:10 PM
At the same time this event is going on they are showing the Griffen vs. Jackson fight on Spike. I didn't get to see this fight live but I might watch it tonight.It's a good fight. I think the judges blew it though. To be the champ you should have to beat the champ and Griffen did not clearly beat the champ.

TrickyNicky
10-04-2008, 06:10 PM
Kimbo can box. And Arlovski has proven he doesn't have a GREAT chin. If AA thought he hurt Kimbo and stands flat in front of him, he would be ripe for an upset KO.

ArrowheadHawk
10-04-2008, 06:10 PM
I'm downloading Strikeforce Payback so that I can watch it after this show.

KcMizzou
10-04-2008, 06:10 PM
At the same time this event is going on they are showing the Griffen vs. Jackson fight on Spike. I didn't get to see this fight live but I might watch it tonight.Yep, counter-programming. It's a good card, if you haven't seen it already.

Forrest is a tough bastard. I didn't think he had a chance.

FWIW... there's UFC on Spike every Saturday this month. One of them's a live free event. Bisping/Leben.

ArrowheadHawk
10-04-2008, 06:12 PM
Yep, counter-programming. It's a good card, if you haven't seen it already.

Forrest is a tough bastard. I didn't think he had a chance.Forrest has come a long way since the ultimate fighter.

KcMizzou
10-04-2008, 06:13 PM
Forrest has come a long way since the ultimate fighter.Absolutely.

It's impossible to dislike that guy.

kstater
10-04-2008, 06:15 PM
Is the Kimbo fight the last one or the first one?

ArrowheadHawk
10-04-2008, 06:15 PM
FWIW... there's UFC on Spike every Saturday this month. One of them's a live free event. Bisping/Leben. I think Bisping will kill him. He looks on another level since dropping down a weight class.

ArrowheadHawk
10-04-2008, 06:16 PM
Is the Kimbo fight the last one or the first one?It should be last one, the Main Event. If it is a quick fight they may show a prelim though.

Bill Parcells
10-04-2008, 06:17 PM
Is the Kimbo fight the last one or the first one?

The last. the girls should fight first.

KcMizzou
10-04-2008, 06:17 PM
I think Bisping will kill him. He looks on another level since dropping down a weight class.I agree. I like both fighters.

I like Leben's brawling style... but I think Bisping just has a lot more skill.

Iowanian
10-04-2008, 07:09 PM
SHAMROCK CUT HIS EYE WARMING UP....no fight for him. Ken's brother ripping him for letting the family down by getting cut...hahahahaha.

Seth Petrecelli? now fighting Kimbo. Whoishe?


bisping might kill leban.

kstater
10-04-2008, 07:11 PM
The classic bait and switch. Shamrock was never going to fight.

Fairplay
10-04-2008, 07:13 PM
They will find some stiff chump loser for Kimbo to lay out. It should be a fast fight.



I agree. Kimbo will be their star to get people to watch them. He will win a few matches to get a bigger name IMO.

CoMoChief
10-04-2008, 07:14 PM
Kimbo and Shamrock aren't fighting LOL

There goes their ratings.

TrickyNicky
10-04-2008, 07:16 PM
Petruzelli is a smallish journeyman HW, whose most notable win is against Dan Severn four years ago. I think he's with Hammer House now, but I'm not sure. He's generally a standup fighter, so it should be entertaining.

El Pendejo
10-04-2008, 08:03 PM
Petruzelli is a smallish journeyman HW, whose most notable win is against Dan Severn four years ago. I think he's with Hammer House now, but I'm not sure. He's generally a standup fighter, so it should be entertaining.

This matchup is far more dangerous for Kevin Ferguson than the Shamrock matchup was. This guy will fight. If it's on the up and up...it should be entertaining.

Delano
10-04-2008, 08:03 PM
It's really unfortunate one of the towel boys didn't take a dive when Carano was weighing in in the buff.

ZootedGranny
10-04-2008, 08:07 PM
http://i33.tinypic.com/24vplih.gif

Gina throws more tight & accurate punches then a lot of male fighters I've seen.

Iowanian
10-04-2008, 08:19 PM
What happend to Arlovski?

Cooter looks like a typical planet member and is beating his ass.

Iowanian
10-04-2008, 08:21 PM
And I speak a minute too soon. Clevis gets KO'd.

jidar
10-04-2008, 08:22 PM
EliteXC has another early stoppage. It's obvious they're erring on the side of caution here, but come on.

Delano
10-04-2008, 08:47 PM
http://i33.tinypic.com/24vplih.gif

Gina throws more tight & accurate punches then a lot of male fighters I've seen.

Your internet skills are finely honed. Quick find.

El Pendejo
10-04-2008, 09:10 PM
See post #64

Down goes the fraud.

jidar
10-04-2008, 09:13 PM
hahahahahahaa
I had hopes Kimbo could turn into the real deal, but I've never been sold on him.
I also like that the ref started to do his early stoppage BS but then he remembered "oh wait this is Kimbo.. shit" and he backed off.

El Pendejo
10-04-2008, 09:18 PM
Cripes...Kimbo sure is lucid and happy after getting run over. Perhaps they told him that with the loose Affliction/EliteXC affiliation...if he won he'd have to fight Fedor...or Nick Diaz next.

If they were smart they wouldn't have dodged Roy Nelson.

TrickyNicky
10-04-2008, 09:21 PM
Too funny. Also, Gina Carano trying to put the cobra clutch on Kobold was hilarious.

mdstu
10-04-2008, 09:25 PM
Cripes...Kimbo sure is lucid and happy after getting run over. Perhaps they told him that with the loose Affliction/EliteXC affiliation...if he won he'd have to fight Fedor...or Nick Diaz next.

If they were smart they wouldn't have dodged Roy Nelson.

I assume you are joking about Kimbo fighting Diaz.

keg in kc
10-04-2008, 09:37 PM
Wonder how Showtime's feeling about making a play to buy EXC now.

Nail in coffin.

El Pendejo
10-04-2008, 10:03 PM
I assume you are joking about Kimbo fighting Diaz.

No I was joking about "Kimbo" fighting Fedor.

Bwana
10-04-2008, 10:27 PM
Ba-HAHAHA Slice exposed. Beat like a rented mule, in 14 seconds, by a no name dude that looks like a rooster.

Back to the streets cave man. You have no martial arts technique and will never have a shot against real fighters.

TrickyNicky
10-04-2008, 10:27 PM
Theres why they should have given the fight to Arlovski. Now they lost their golden goose with nothing to show for it.

edit: On second thought. Giving him to Arlovski wouldn't be wise either as he is still under contract with Affliction.

Sully
10-04-2008, 10:29 PM
I haven't read this thread...but I just fired up the fights on my DVR.

Jesus Christ I can't stand Ken Shamrock. He's such a fargin blowhard.

Bwana
10-04-2008, 10:32 PM
Theres why they should have given the fight to Arlovski. Now they lost their golden goose with nothing to show for it.

edit: On second thought. Giving him to Arlovski wouldn't be wise either as he is still under contract with Affliction.

Yeah, they have to be eating a bullet after that display. After that joke of a fight, they just lost any credibility they had gained. ROFL

There is a reason these fights are free.

El Pendejo
10-04-2008, 10:41 PM
Arlovski doesn't fight for elitexc...he's under contract to Affliction. Affliction and Elitexc have a loose sort of partnership (recently). If elitexc was smart they would have matched up Kimbo against Roy Nelson who had already called him out. Instead they went with a has been. When Shamrock hurt himself...they were f***ed. They couldn't cancel the show. Unfortunately for them they had to throw in a midling mma fighter who weighed about 40 pounds less than Ferguson. He lost to a light heavy. Anyone with half a sense of things could have seen it. The Silverback isn't a tomato can. He's no champ, but he's not a can. Ferguson can only handle cans...and barely at that.

(Edit: Arlovski's next fight was supposed to be against Fedor. Fedor broke his hand, and Affliction postponed their next event until sometime in January. That's the only reason he fought Nelson. It was a favor of sorts.)

TRR
10-04-2008, 10:49 PM
Ba-HAHAHA Slice exposed. Beat like a rented mule, in 14 seconds, by a no name dude that looks like a rooster.

Back to the streets cave man. You have no martial arts technique and will never have a shot against real fighters.

I for one am sad to see him lose. The bottom line is that Kimbo has worked his @ss off to improve all of the things people trash him for...All while being completely professional and respectful. Plus, I love hearing about all of the charity stuff the guy has been doing.

It's really too bad that one perfect punch bursts the bubble that surrounded him. However, I don't think that will be the last we see of him.

The hate for the guy is completely idiotic.

ArrowheadHawk
10-04-2008, 10:59 PM
That main event was a surprise.

Bwana
10-04-2008, 11:05 PM
I for one am sad to see him lose. The bottom line is that Kimbo has worked his @ss off to improve all of the things people trash him for...All while being completely professional and respectful. Plus, I love hearing about all of the charity stuff the guy has been doing.

It's really too bad that one perfect punch bursts the bubble that surrounded him. However, I don't think that will be the last we see of him.

The hate for the guy is completely idiotic.

Hey, You like the guy and that's all good, I always knew he was overrated. The guy has no martial arts technique whatsoever. Slice does GREAT in the street fighting bums and does well fighting the patsie chumps they have been selectively mathing him up with, but he will never be a top MMA fighter.

He just got his ass handed to him from some no-name that took the fight on a few hours notice.

boogblaster
10-04-2008, 11:09 PM
Yea Kimbo looked amatureish for sure ....

KcMizzou
10-04-2008, 11:09 PM
Hey, You like the guy and that's all good, I always knew he was overrated. The guy has no martial arts technique what so ever. Slice does GREAT in the street fighting bums and does well fighting the patsie chumps they have been selectively mathing him up with, but he will never be a top MMA fighter.

He just got his ass handed to him from some no-name that took the fight on a few hours notice.Yep. Anyone who knows anything about mixed martial arts... and considers it a serious sport, knew "Kimbo" was a chump.

If you want to see a real MMA fighter, check out BJ Penn.

(love him or hate him... that dude's got skills.)

Bwana
10-04-2008, 11:12 PM
Yep. Anyone who knows anything about mixed martial arts... and considers it a serious sport, knew "Kimbo" was a chump.

If you want to see a real MMA fighter, check out BJ Penn.

(love him or hate him... that dude's got skills.)

Yep, or Anderson Silva.

El Pendejo
10-04-2008, 11:13 PM
I for one am sad to see him lose. The bottom line is that Kimbo has worked his @ss off to improve all of the things people trash him for...All while being completely professional and respectful. Plus, I love hearing about all of the charity stuff the guy has been doing.

It's really too bad that one perfect punch bursts the bubble that surrounded him. However, I don't think that will be the last we see of him.

The hate for the guy is completely idiotic.

Kimbo has worked his ass off so much that he had to get bailed out against the can's can in James Thompson. I don't think anyone is faulting the guy for cashing his checks, but anyone with an ounce sanity has understood from the get go...that if you put Ferguson in the cage against an average mma fighter he was going down.

The perfect punch? Are you Kevin Ferguson's mother?

I'm sure it's not the last we'll ever see of him. Maybe next time they can feed him a middle weight.

El Pendejo
10-04-2008, 11:19 PM
Yep. Anyone who knows anything about mixed martial arts... and considers it a serious sport, knew "Kimbo" was a chump.

If you want to see a real MMA fighter, check out BJ Penn.

(love him or hate him... that dude's got skills.)

As someone else mentioned above me...or Anderson Silva, or Wanderlei Silva, or Rush St. Pierre, or Rich Franklin, or Uriah Faber, or Miguel Torres, or Crazy Nick, or...etc...

The list goes on. Ferguson made his name with bullshit "street fights" with rules. The guys above have done it in the ring/cage. I think Kevbo's heart is in question now...after he turtled against a 205lb man...but was able to pop up after it and give him his "respect".

okcchief
10-04-2008, 11:23 PM
I knew Kimbo was a sharade. No suprise at all. It was just a matter of time.

TrickyNicky
10-04-2008, 11:24 PM
You would figure Kimbo would have a better chin than that. I was giving him way too much credit. I mean, thats not a glass chin. That shit is fine china. A one-footed jab from a light heavyweight.

TRR
10-04-2008, 11:24 PM
Kimbo has worked his ass off so much that he had to get bailed out against the can's can in James Thompson. I don't think anyone is faulting the guy for cashing his checks, but anyone with an ounce sanity has understood from the get go...that if you put Ferguson in the cage against an average mma fighter he was going down.

The perfect punch? Are you Kevin Ferguson's mother?

I'm sure it's not the last we'll ever see of him. Maybe next time they can feed him a middle weight.

Your a hater...Enough said.

Bwana
10-04-2008, 11:26 PM
Your a hater...Enough said.

Perhaps, but he knows what he's talking about.

Rausch
10-04-2008, 11:27 PM
Not bad.

Arlovski looked tired and sloppy but was able to get distance and finish that tub of goo he fought...

El Pendejo
10-04-2008, 11:28 PM
You're a hater...Enough said.

Kimbo got knocked the fuck out with an off balanced 1/4 power straight right. That really said it all.

Bwana
10-04-2008, 11:30 PM
Not bad.

Arlovski looked tired and sloppy but was able to get distance and finish that tub of goo he fought...

Tub of goo is right. Old "Country Boy Roy" must have one hell of a workout program to get ready for his fights. The look on Arlovski's face was priceless when old Roy had his gut slathered on his head. ROFL

El Pendejo
10-04-2008, 11:35 PM
Tub of goo is right. Old "Country Boy Roy" must have one hell of a workout program to get ready for his fights. The look on Arlovski's face was priceless when old Roy had his gut slathered on his head. ROFL

What's funny is...he called out Ferguson...but the geniuses at elitexc wanted nothing to do with that fight. I guess the fat boy showed enough ground game against an elite fighter to make that a wise decision though. He couldn't handle a light heavy with some skills for even 15 seconds. No way he was handling Nelson.

I'm sure El Guapo will tell us all once again that Kimbo would annihilate Lesnar.

ragedogg69
10-04-2008, 11:50 PM
The only thing that made this even more perfect, was Gus Johnson going crazy after the stoppage.

So let me make sure I understand this, Elite XC strips KJ Noons because he did not want to give a Diaz another shot. They also have to borrow talent from the IFL and Affliction to fill out their cards. And now after all the effort they have put into making Kimbo legit, he gets hammered by a journeyman. Just wow.

My predictions:

EliteXC will be done in the 2009.
Gina Carano will be destroyed by Cyborg if she ever does fight her.
Andre Arlovski will never be a superstar. Even if he does beat Fedor, he will sleepwalk thru his next fight and bore everyone to tears. The exact reason UFC released him.

ZootedGranny
10-05-2008, 01:03 AM
Nothing like EliteXC's VP crying to the ref that his cash cow was getting punched in the back of the head while the Hulkster hides in the shadows.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/bukorki/Skala/backofthehead.gif

El Pendejo
10-05-2008, 01:15 AM
Nothing like EliteXC's VP crying to the ref that his cash cow was getting punched in the back of the head while the Hulkster hides in the shadows.


Wow...great shot. When you watch it in real time the referee almost steps in...now it makes sense why. There was one shot to the back of Ferguson's head. But that is never enough to stop the fight. By the time it happened Kevbo was on Wendler (queer) street.

burt
10-05-2008, 08:05 AM
I say Kimbo is very entertaining and perhaps a great guy....but way out matched in MMA. One-dimensional fighters just can't compete. That said, I wish Kimbo success in the future....what ever that may be.

LocoChiefsFan
10-05-2008, 08:21 AM
Nothing like EliteXC's VP crying to the ref that his cash cow was getting punched in the back of the head while the Hulkster hides in the shadows.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn127/bukorki/Skala/backofthehead.gif
I saw that, buy had no idea who that guy was that was crying.

ElGringo
10-05-2008, 08:27 AM
The downside of EliteXC, they put their faith and investments in the wrong people. Ferguson is a joke. He never was a MMA fighter, and never will be. He has now been saved once, and lost very quickly once. I don't believe we will ever see him against a real opponent. Gina is a great face for women's fighting, but she is not the best either. Cyborg will tear her apart once she gets the chance. However, unlike Ferguson, I believe we will see that matchup.

Baby Lee
10-05-2008, 09:56 AM
Blah blah gets on top of his opponent like CSI went to the top of the ratings here on CBS!!!!!

KCUnited
10-05-2008, 10:26 AM
Kimbo is more about his entourage and the after parties than he is about being a legit mma fighter.

Brock
10-05-2008, 10:27 AM
Kimbo was a huge cash cow for that organization. That loss really hurts them.

Iowanian
10-05-2008, 10:50 AM
I can't tell you how happy it made me to see that smallish guy KO Kimbo in 14 seconds.

It was especially sweet that he'd turned his back on Shamrock...and wouldn't touch gloves with the guy who beat his ass pre-fight.

Prison thug.

Iowanian
10-05-2008, 10:56 AM
Your a hater...Enough said.


KEEP EFFING DOUBTING KIMBO FERGUSON!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR.


He's a thug, with an entourage of thugs. He treated the 205lb no-name who 1 punched him prefight....

Charity, great citizen...yeah...thats why he's surrounded by convicts and internet porn mogules.

TrickyNicky
10-05-2008, 10:59 AM
Can Kimbos nickname now be Turd? You know. Turd Ferguson. *chews gum* It's a funny name.

El Pendejo
10-05-2008, 10:00 PM
Ok. For what it's worth Elitexc had to pay Ferguson more money just to fight after Shamrock was nixed. Apparently they went to Frank Shamrock and he was game...but depending on who you believe...either the network or the athletic commission nixed it.

As I said in post 64 of this thread if the fight was on the up and up it would be interesting. What I didn't realize is that the silverback fought in k-1...and he was good. His mma losses are by decision or submission.

With any luck Affiction and Elitexc will get together for one more event...the main event being Ferguson/Fedor. Although I don't think I want to watch Fedor murder some one.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-06-2008, 03:38 AM
The whole Kimbo Slice thing was always fucked up to me. The vast majority of his appeal seems like it stemmed from the stereotype of the black savage.

People tuned in to see the savage and then rejoice when he is beaten down.

KcMizzou
10-06-2008, 07:23 AM
Ok. For what it's worth Elitexc had to pay Ferguson more money just to fight after Shamrock was nixed. Apparently they went to Frank Shamrock and he was game...but depending on who you believe...either the network or the athletic commission nixed it.

As I said in post 64 of this thread if the fight was on the up and up it would be interesting. What I didn't realize is that the silverback fought in k-1...and he was good. His mma losses are by decision or submission.

With any luck Affiction and Elitexc will get together for one more event...the main event being Ferguson/Fedor. Although I don't think I want to watch Fedor murder some one.Man... Frank Shamrock would have beat him down even worse, (if that's possible.)

El Jefe
10-06-2008, 08:40 AM
I love it that Bimbo Slice finally got exposed.

Reerun_KC
10-06-2008, 08:42 AM
The whole Kimbo Slice thing was always fucked up to me. The vast majority of his appeal seems like it stemmed from the stereotype of the black savage.

People tuned in to see the savage and then rejoice when he is beaten down.

I laughed at him, I guess he ran out of internet bums to beat up...

El Jefe
10-06-2008, 08:44 AM
Anyone who didn't see it, here is a youtube link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKndSApojAg

ArrowheadHawk
10-06-2008, 09:01 AM
Ok. For what it's worth Elitexc had to pay Ferguson more money just to fight after Shamrock was nixed. Apparently they went to Frank Shamrock and he was game...but depending on who you believe...either the network or the athletic commission nixed it.

As I said in post 64 of this thread if the fight was on the up and up it would be interesting. What I didn't realize is that the silverback fought in k-1...and he was good. His mma losses are by decision or submission.

With any luck Affiction and Elitexc will get together for one more event...the main event being Ferguson/Fedor. Although I don't think I want to watch Fedor murder some one.ROFL

BIG_DADDY
10-06-2008, 02:39 PM
The whole Kimbo Slice thing was always f***ed up to me. The vast majority of his appeal seems like it stemmed from the stereotype of the black savage.

People tuned in to see the savage and then rejoice when he is beaten down.

Kind of like people rejoicing when that chick kicked your ass?

BIG_DADDY
10-06-2008, 02:40 PM
The downside of EliteXC, they put their faith and investments in the wrong people. Ferguson is a joke. He never was a MMA fighter, and never will be. He has now been saved once, and lost very quickly once. I don't believe we will ever see him against a real opponent. Gina is a great face for women's fighting, but she is not the best either. Cyborg will tear her apart once she gets the chance. However, unlike Ferguson, I believe we will see that matchup.

She will kick Cyborgs ass too.

the joker
10-06-2008, 02:44 PM
Kimbo was owned. :)

Chiefnj2
10-06-2008, 02:53 PM
EliteXC deserves to fail. You promote the sport, not the fighter.

BIG_DADDY
10-06-2008, 02:55 PM
EliteXC deserves to fail. You promote the sport, not the fighter.

They are putting MMA on CBS. For that reason alone I would like to see them succeed. I am not sure what your talking about either. Every organization promotes their fighters/card.

Chiefnj2
10-06-2008, 02:57 PM
They are putting MMA on CBS. For that reason alone I would like to see them succeed. I am not sure what your talking about either. Every organization promotes their fighters/card.

There is nothing wrong with a promoting a card. Elite focussed on Kimbo and made him the face of EliteXC. It garnered great short term ratings, but looks like it blew up in their face.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-06-2008, 03:01 PM
Kind of like people rejoicing when that chick kicked your ass?

How many mercury-filled vaccines were you pumped full of?

KCCHIEFS27
10-06-2008, 03:06 PM
I didn't expect Kimbo to win his first fight, so I wasn't surprised to see this happen. He's only been training in the sport for what? A little over a year? So of course he should get dominated by these guys who've been involved with this for 7-8+ years. He's a novelty,yes. Just like a lot of people would still pay to watch a Mike Tyson fight, there will always be people who find this guy different/entertaining. He sucks, but he COULD get better. Probably not though.

BIG_DADDY
10-06-2008, 03:36 PM
How many mercury-filled vaccines were you pumped full of?

LMAO

BigVE
10-06-2008, 03:50 PM
IF they would have fought each other Shamrock would have definitely had the edge experience-wise but power for power it was even or in favor of Kimbo. Shamrock has not been impressive for a number of years but he would still have much more ability than Kimbo. I'm guessing Kimbo was favored in this one but not by much.




ALL of the MMA promote the same thing: the fights, which means they have to promote the FIGHTERS....for me, WHO is fighting is what determines whether I buy a pay-per-view or not. Right now Elite XC will have more luck promoting a Caranno vs. Cyborg GIRL-fight instead of any Kimbo fight.