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Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 07:25 PM
http://kan.scout.com/2/797935.html

From the opening whistle, the Chiefs didnít come to play Sunday. The defense was gashed and didnít make enough plays despite coming up with two turnovers. But when you donít have a quarterback, canít rush the passer against two inexperienced tackles and donít score points, generally you donít win.

This was a new low for the Chiefs. Not only did they regress from their upset win a week ago against Denver, but based on the 34-0 blanking at the hands of the Carolina Panthers, Kansas City is back on track for another losing streak.

The problem could have been avoided months ago if the Chiefs had signed veteran free agent quarterback Chad Pennington (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3892731) and cut Damon Huard (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698859). Theyíd likely be at least 3-2 on the season, maybe in first place at this point.

The Chiefsí biggest debacle so far hasnít been losing to the Patriots, Raiders, Falcons or Panthers. It was letting Pennington get away. He wanted to come to Kansas City, but the Chiefs didnít pull the trigger. Whether it was a coaching thing or a management thing, the bottom line is this season could have been different if Pennington was a Chief and not a Dolphin.

Pennington has taken a not-so-talented bunch of offensive players in Miami and put them in contention for the AFC East. If he were in Kansas City, the Chiefs would have beaten the Patriots and Raiders, along with Denver, and be 3-2.

Instead, Sunday we watched Huard, who appeared to be a quarterback who wasnít ready or able to play the game. He was tentative, didnít set his feet at times and threw several passes either up for grabs or towards Panthers defenders. From interceptions, to batted balls, to being hit, this was Huardís worst game of the season and puts the question of who starts from here on out to rest.

Brodie Croyle (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698850) is the starter for the remainder of 2008. Unless heís in the hospital or out for the season with an injury, heís the guy. Letís see what he can finally do in a Chiefs uniform with a better offensive line and more options at running back.

This bye week should be critical for the Chiefs. Changes need to be made in the starting lineup. DaJuan Morgan (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3723961) should take Bernard Pollard (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698871)ís spot at safety, and Herb Taylor should take over for Damion McIntosh (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698866) at right tackle.

Running back Kolby Smith (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698874) also deserves more carries. Sorry, but $45 million running backs who get out-rushed by third-round draft picks (Jamaal Charles (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3723954) Ė 18 yards) and backup quarterbacks (Tyler Thigpen Ė 16 yards) should give someone else a chance. Wade Smith (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3037226) could also replace Adrian Jones (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698862) at guard. Heís been a valuable addition on special teams but deserves a shot at a starting spot.

Last but not least, Eric Price should be promoted to quarterbacks coach for Croyleís sake the rest of the season. The Dick Curl experiment is over. He has to take some of the blame for the lack of preparedness his quarterbacks have shown at the beginning, middle and end of games this season. Price previously worked with Croyle at Alabama, was a brilliant offensive coordinator in college and has more to offer the Chiefs than coaching wide receivers.

Five to Remember -

DC Gunther Cunningham - His players either arenít listening or heís not reaching them. Cunningham will eat, sleep and live at Arrowhead the next two weeks because he will fix the defensive problems, but he needs to make some changes either in the class room, the practice field or on game days. I didnít much care for the lack of aggression from the defense when the Panthers had any kind of long third down.

OC Chan Gailey - Sunday he seemed to have the same disease we saw the first two games of the season Ė an uncreative offensive game plan that was far too predictable. Gaileyís quarterback and running back didnít do him any favors, but how about a reverse, flanker pass, pitch play, or anything? Gailey should be more aggressive when Croyle returns. He needs to open up the playbook. It canít hurt at this point.

HC Herm Edwards - I donít often get critical with the Head Coach, but today he should have pulled Huard sooner. He knows heís not the answer and despite the win a week ago, Edwards should have just struggled along with Tyler Thigpen the last two weeks. Wins are important, but Edwards has job security.

QB Damon Huard - There were rumblings all week that he was hurt and those appear to be true based on todayís game. Huard was not ready to play and based on the fact he didnít really practice much until Thursday, perhaps the rumored injuries were more severe than disclosed. Huardís a class guy all the way but right now looks like a player who might be done.

kstater
10-05-2008, 07:28 PM
The problem could have been avoided months ago if the Chiefs had signed veteran free agent quarterback Chad Pennington and cut Damon Huard. They’d likely be at least 3-2 on the season, maybe in first place at this point.

ROFL
And you wonder why people don't respect WPI

ILChief
10-05-2008, 07:31 PM
I wonder how much job security Herm really has. Following up a 4-12 with what looks to be fewer wins this year, especially with the lack of effort we saw today (plus vs. Oak and Atl) can't get him that much security. Barring a massive turnaround I think Clark has no choice but to get rid of Herm and Carl.

cdcox
10-05-2008, 07:32 PM
Oh no, Herm has lost Nick Athan.

Mile High Mania
10-05-2008, 07:33 PM
Five to Remember -

DC Gunther Cunningham - His players either arenít listening or heís not reaching them. Cunningham will eat, sleep and live at Arrowhead the next two weeks because he will fix the defensive problems, but he needs to make some changes either in the class room, the practice field or on game days. I didnít much care for the lack of aggression from the defense when the Panthers had any kind of long third down.

OC Chan Gailey - Sunday he seemed to have the same disease we saw the first two games of the season Ė an uncreative offensive game plan that was far too predictable. Gaileyís quarterback and running back didnít do him any favors, but how about a reverse, flanker pass, pitch play, or anything? Gailey should be more aggressive when Croyle returns. He needs to open up the playbook. It canít hurt at this point.

HC Herm Edwards - I donít often get critical with the Head Coach, but today he should have pulled Huard sooner. He knows heís not the answer and despite the win a week ago, Edwards should have just struggled along with Tyler Thigpen the last two weeks. Wins are important, but Edwards has job security.

QB Damon Huard - There were rumblings all week that he was hurt and those appear to be true based on todayís game. Huard was not ready to play and based on the fact he didnít really practice much until Thursday, perhaps the rumored injuries were more severe than disclosed. Huardís a class guy all the way but right now looks like a player who might be done.

1, 2, 3, 4... 5?

the Talking Can
10-05-2008, 07:36 PM
The problem could have been avoided months ago if the Chiefs had signed veteran free agent quarterback Chad Pennington (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3892731) and cut Damon Huard (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698859). Theyíd likely be at least 3-2 on the season, maybe in first place at this point.
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:doh!:


what a merry band retards at wpi....thing is, True Fans actually believe this...

and worse, they think it would be a good thing...

this franchise, and a large portion of its fan base, needs to be obliterated so we can start over from scratch....

banyon
10-05-2008, 07:37 PM
Chad Pennington would've saved our franchise!!!!111!1!

triple
10-05-2008, 07:41 PM
our savior chad pennington... what a crockpot of fermented shit

Farzin
10-05-2008, 07:41 PM
1, 2, 3, 4... 5?

ROFL LMAO

ClevelandBronco
10-05-2008, 07:42 PM
The problem could have been avoided months ago if the Chiefs had signed veteran free agent quarterback Chad Pennington (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3892731) and cut Damon Huard (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698859). Theyíd likely be at least 3-2 on the season, maybe in first place at this point.

This may be the dumbest statement I've ever read in my life.

Are you writing drunk?

Bearcat
10-05-2008, 07:42 PM
-- Pennington has had two decent games, and do you know why?
Game 1: Loss. Pennington -- 250 yards. Dolphins rushing -- 50 yards.
Game 2: Loss. Pennington -- 112 yards. Dolphins rushing -- 72 yards.

Game 3: Win. Pennington -- 226 yards. Dolphins rushing -- 216 yards.
Game 4: Win. Pennington -- 228 yards. Dolphins rushing -- 167 yards.

Come on, man... you can't defend Huard between this game and last week and then write something like this. Pennington would have looked just as bad as Huard today because he would have gotten no protection and had no running game.

The Dolphins are a prime example outside of our current situation (which is another good example) of why it DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOUR QUARTERBACK IS if the players around him don't perform well.

Throw this away and write about how Chad Pennington is in the same situation as Huard and Croyle... and it's as clear as those 4 games above.

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 07:43 PM
This may be the dumbest statement I've ever read in my life.

Are you writing drunk?

It's Nick's opinion, not mine.

I don't see it as totally without merit.

GoTrav
10-05-2008, 07:47 PM
but Edwards has job security.

lord help us, and yes Chad was the answer /killme

smittysbar
10-05-2008, 07:48 PM
1, 2, 3, 4... 5?

Oh shit, that is to funny ROFL

ClevelandBronco
10-05-2008, 07:49 PM
It's Nick's opinion, not mine.

I don't see it as totally without merit.

How much merit do you see in this bullshit?

Is Nick writing drunk?

chiefs1111
10-05-2008, 07:50 PM
Blasted doesn't begin to describe what happened to the chiefs

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 07:53 PM
How much merit do you see in this bullshit?

Is Nick writing drunk?

I think the Chiefs would have beaten New England and Oakland with Pennington.

Coach
10-05-2008, 07:53 PM
I think the Chiefs would have beaten New England and Oakland with Pennington.

You have fucking lost it Benedict. :shake:

banyon
10-05-2008, 07:54 PM
It's Nick's opinion, not mine.

I don't see it as totally without merit.

http://www.dodgeboard.com/forums/images/smilies/shockedsmileyzn3.gif http://www.dodgeboard.com/forums/images/smilies/eek2.gif

SHOCKER.

oaklandhater
10-05-2008, 07:54 PM
http://kan.scout.com/2/797935.html

From the opening whistle, the Chiefs didnít come to play Sunday. The defense was gashed and didnít make enough plays despite coming up with two turnovers. But when you donít have a quarterback, canít rush the passer against two inexperienced tackles and donít score points, generally you donít win.

This was a new low for the Chiefs. Not only did they regress from their upset win a week ago against Denver, but based on the 34-0 blanking at the hands of the Carolina Panthers, Kansas City is back on track for another losing streak.

The problem could have been avoided months ago if the Chiefs had signed veteran free agent quarterback Chad Pennington (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3892731) and cut Damon Huard (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698859). Theyíd likely be at least 3-2 on the season, maybe in first place at this point.

The Chiefsí biggest debacle so far hasnít been losing to the Patriots, Raiders, Falcons or Panthers. It was letting Pennington get away. He wanted to come to Kansas City, but the Chiefs didnít pull the trigger. Whether it was a coaching thing or a management thing, the bottom line is this season could have been different if Pennington was a Chief and not a Dolphin.

Pennington has taken a not-so-talented bunch of offensive players in Miami and put them in contention for the AFC East. If he were in Kansas City, the Chiefs would have beaten the Patriots and Raiders, along with Denver, and be 3-2.

Instead, Sunday we watched Huard, who appeared to be a quarterback who wasnít ready or able to play the game. He was tentative, didnít set his feet at times and threw several passes either up for grabs or towards Panthers defenders. From interceptions, to batted balls, to being hit, this was Huardís worst game of the season and puts the question of who starts from here on out to rest.

Brodie Croyle (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698850) is the starter for the remainder of 2008. Unless heís in the hospital or out for the season with an injury, heís the guy. Letís see what he can finally do in a Chiefs uniform with a better offensive line and more options at running back.

This bye week should be critical for the Chiefs. Changes need to be made in the starting lineup. DaJuan Morgan (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3723961) should take Bernard Pollard (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698871)ís spot at safety, and Herb Taylor should take over for Damion McIntosh (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698866) at right tackle.

Running back Kolby Smith (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698874) also deserves more carries. Sorry, but $45 million running backs who get out-rushed by third-round draft picks (Jamaal Charles (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3723954) Ė 18 yards) and backup quarterbacks (Tyler Thigpen Ė 16 yards) should give someone else a chance. Wade Smith (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3037226) could also replace Adrian Jones (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698862) at guard. Heís been a valuable addition on special teams but deserves a shot at a starting spot.

Last but not least, Eric Price should be promoted to quarterbacks coach for Croyleís sake the rest of the season. The Dick Curl experiment is over. He has to take some of the blame for the lack of preparedness his quarterbacks have shown at the beginning, middle and end of games this season. Price previously worked with Croyle at Alabama, was a brilliant offensive coordinator in college and has more to offer the Chiefs than coaching wide receivers.

Five to Remember -

DC Gunther Cunningham - His players either arenít listening or heís not reaching them. Cunningham will eat, sleep and live at Arrowhead the next two weeks because he will fix the defensive problems, but he needs to make some changes either in the class room, the practice field or on game days. I didnít much care for the lack of aggression from the defense when the Panthers had any kind of long third down.

OC Chan Gailey - Sunday he seemed to have the same disease we saw the first two games of the season Ė an uncreative offensive game plan that was far too predictable. Gaileyís quarterback and running back didnít do him any favors, but how about a reverse, flanker pass, pitch play, or anything? Gailey should be more aggressive when Croyle returns. He needs to open up the playbook. It canít hurt at this point.

HC Herm Edwards - I donít often get critical with the Head Coach, but today he should have pulled Huard sooner. He knows heís not the answer and despite the win a week ago, Edwards should have just struggled along with Tyler Thigpen the last two weeks. Wins are important, but Edwards has job security.

QB Damon Huard - There were rumblings all week that he was hurt and those appear to be true based on todayís game. Huard was not ready to play and based on the fact he didnít really practice much until Thursday, perhaps the rumored injuries were more severe than disclosed. Huardís a class guy all the way but right now looks like a player who might be done.

wow now that was a critical artical..

banyon
10-05-2008, 07:54 PM
I think the Chiefs would have beaten New England and Oakland with Pennington.

7-9 here we come Muthaf***s!

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 07:55 PM
You have fucking lost it Benedict. :shake:

Why wouldn't we have?

The New England game is obvious. Against Oakland our defense was kicking ass until they got gassed. Pennington, running game or not, would have put up a couple scores. Pennington > Thigpen the shithead.

ClevelandBronco
10-05-2008, 07:56 PM
I think the Chiefs would have beaten New England and Oakland with Pennington.

And that's why no one should take you seriously.

That's not thinking, kid. That's wishing.

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 07:57 PM
And that's why no one should take you seriously.

That's not thinking, kid. That's wishing.

It's completely logical, actually. Did you even watch those games?

We had 81 yards of offense through three quarters of play against Oakland, because Thigpen was BUTT. Pennington would not have come CLOSE to that level of suck.

chiefs1111
10-05-2008, 07:58 PM
Why wouldn't we have?

The New England game is obvious. Against Oakland our defense was kicking ass until they got gassed. Pennington, running game or not, would have put up a couple scores. Pennington > Thigpen the shithead.

I think a lot of people would be better compared to Thigpen. The problem with Chad is behind our line,he would probably already be out injured anyways...... When he is healthy,He's not that bad of a qb. Problem is,he can't stay healthy.

FAX
10-05-2008, 07:59 PM
Five to Remember -

Okay, I know that grammar isn't Nick's strong suit, but counting to the number 5?

FAX

Bearcat
10-05-2008, 07:59 PM
It's Nick's opinion, not mine.

I don't see it as totally without merit.

Whoever wrote it really needs to spend a few more hours on their work... it's not really a new low, because not only did we just come off a 12 game losing streak, we've statistically had a couple of similar to this one since Herm was hired. Worrying about wins and losses with a backup quarterback is ridiculous... we weren't winning more than 4 or 5 games with Croyle, so who gives a crap about our record right now? Gailey obviously isn't the problem, because Herm's hands are all over the gameplan, which hasn't changed since he's been here. It's Gailey's offense within Herm's shell, which will never work. Herm's the problem.

One could argue about Gailey and what not, but basing an article on a completely false statement that Pennington has "taken the Dolphins and put them in contention" is just.... LMAO

Coach
10-05-2008, 07:59 PM
Why wouldn't we have?

The New England game is obvious. Against Oakland our defense was kicking ass until they got gassed. Pennington, running game or not, would have put up a couple scores. Pennington > Thigpen the shithead.

IT would have not mattered because the football team is coached by Herman Edwards, who for whatever reasons, coach a 1960 style of a football brand aganist the 2000 style of a football brand.

Mecca and I, along with several other high ranking members of the board has harped on this issue many times. Unless Herm is going to OPEN up the playbook, and let his OC do the playcalling, it's just going to be what just happened last year.

banyon
10-05-2008, 08:00 PM
Why wouldn't we have?

The New England game is obvious. Against Oakland our defense was kicking ass until they got gassed. Pennington, running game or not, would have put up a couple scores. Pennington > Thigpen the shithead.

You thought Huard was great against the Pats:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=190880&page=5

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 08:00 PM
IT would have not mattered because the football team is coached by Herman Edwards, who for whatever reasons, coach a 1960 style of a football brand aganist the 2000 style of a football brand.

Mecca and I, along with several other high ranking members of the board has harped on this issue many times. Unless Herm is going to OPEN up the playbook, and let his OC do the playcalling, it's just going to be what just happened last year.

I don't think it's Herm. You might want to ask Tech fans about Gailey's playcalling. There's a reason Herm hired him...

banyon
10-05-2008, 08:00 PM
Five to Remember -

Okay, I know that grammar isn't Nick's strong suit, but counting to the number 5?

FAX

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

ClevelandBronco
10-05-2008, 08:01 PM
It's completely logical, actually. Did you even watch those games?

We had 81 yards of offense through three quarters of play against Oakland, because Thigpen was BUTT. Pennington would not have come CLOSE to that level of suck.

Fuck no, I didn't watch the games. That has nothing to do with you dreaming that something else would have happened.

Stop talking about thinking that this or that would have happened. You don't think. You don't know how to think.

You're wishing, you fucking hack.

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 08:02 PM
Fuck no, I didn't watch the games.

Then you really can't comment.

You can be an asshole though. You're good at that.

ClevelandBronco
10-05-2008, 08:05 PM
Then you really can't comment.

You can be an asshole though. You're good at that.

Yeah. My bad.

I didn't watch those games that Pennington started for the Chiefs that gave them the lead in the division.

What a fucking clown you are.

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 08:05 PM
Yeah. My bad.

I didn't watch those games that Pennington started for the Chiefs that gave them the lead in the division.

What a fucking clown you are.

You really don't like me very much, do you?

chiefforlife
10-05-2008, 08:06 PM
Five to Remember -

Okay, I know that grammar isn't Nick's strong suit, but counting to the number 5?

FAX

Here is the 5th one, I dont know why Claythan didnt post the entire article.

RB Larry Johnson - He should have put this team on his back and ran like he did last week. Itís attitude and keeping your head up that separates good runners from average ones. DeAngelo Williams totally outclassed Johnson on Sunday as he gashed the Chiefs for 123 yards and two touchdowns. At a minimum, that should have been LJís game.

The Panthers had some vulnerability on the outside but Johnson never went there, instead running to the backside of his ineffective offensive line. He should have bounced outside instead of once again running between the tackles. Thatís not his strength anymore. He needs to change directions and go outside if the middle is congested. Sometimes the straightest line isnít the shortest distance to a monster game.

chop
10-05-2008, 08:06 PM
1, 2, 3, 4... 5?

I had to click on the link to see if this is where he actually left off. It wasn't. Here is the rest of the article. It was funny though.

RB Larry Johnson - He should have put this team on his back and ran like he did last week. Itís attitude and keeping your head up that separates good runners from average ones. DeAngelo Williams (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3662083) totally outclassed Johnson on Sunday as he gashed the Chiefs for 123 yards and two touchdowns. At a minimum, that should have been LJís game.

The Panthers had some vulnerability on the outside but Johnson never went there, instead running to the backside of his ineffective offensive line. He should have bounced outside instead of once again running between the tackles. Thatís not his strength anymore. He needs to change directions and go outside if the middle is congested. Sometimes the straightest line isnít the shortest distance to a monster game.
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banyon
10-05-2008, 08:07 PM
Hey, what's with your profile pic? You're starting to look more and more like Travis Bickle. Should we be worried?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/customprofilepics/profilepic3815_5.gif

http://i14.tinypic.com/6sk0svr.jpg

TN_Chief
10-05-2008, 08:07 PM
I don't think it's Herm. You might want to ask Tech fans about Gailey's playcalling. There's a reason Herm hired him...We've covered this numerous times. Herm has stated (it's in his book for God's sake) that he expects his coordinators to follow his lead. The specific excerpt (which has been quoted here as recently as 2 weeks ago) basically leads one to believe that Herm wants "yes men" around him.

Trying to lay blame on Gailey here is fucking ridiculous. How is it that Gailey runs the same offense as Mike Solari?

ClevelandBronco
10-05-2008, 08:08 PM
Wait. The Chiefs are only 3-2 with Pennington. But they could have been better. Is that right?

ClevelandBronco
10-05-2008, 08:08 PM
You really don't like me very much, do you?

No. Why do you bother asking?

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 08:09 PM
No. Why do you bother asking?

I enjoy reading your responses.

So, you don't like me. What are you going to do about it? Hm?

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 08:10 PM
How is it that Gailey runs the same offense as Mike Solari?

He doesn't. There are huge differences.

ClevelandBronco
10-05-2008, 08:10 PM
I enjoy reading your responses.

So, you don't like me. What are you going to do about it? Hm?

I imagine I'll keep calling you out on your bullshit. That's my job here.

GoTrav
10-05-2008, 08:11 PM
He doesn't. There are huge differences.

like?

Nightfyre
10-05-2008, 08:11 PM
A) You really should be attributing these articles to their author in the post
B) Chad Pennington would have been destroyed by now, not to mention speculating on how he would change the season is retarded.
C) LJ still sucked ass.

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 08:12 PM
I imagine I'll keep calling you out on your bullshit. That's my job here.

Good. It's entertaining. I enjoy the fact that you hate me so much. Are you just seething with fury over my posts?

triple
10-05-2008, 08:14 PM
Good old Miami. Good old Chad.

Miami opened the season losing at home to the Jets, down 20-7 until a trash time touchdown. Pennington threw 43 times to get those 251 hard-won yards, an interception, and two TDs, both to tight ends, which just proves the game is so easy to Chad Pennington he doesn't even bother with the receivers.

Pennington followed up this magnum opus by leading his team to a 21-point drubbing by league superpower Arizona. Pennington played admirably, completing 10 passes for over one hundred yards. The performance is even more impressive when you consider three of those receptions were for about 20 yards. Pennington was pulled in favor of Chad Henne once the team went down 31-3.

Pennington did pretty well in week three, throwing for more than two hundred yards. Ronnie Brown's 5 touchdowns surely were set up by the Patriots fear of Pennington's rocket arm. Pennington leads his team to win the day against the Patriots with brilliant direct snaps to the running back. This seemed to be the key to a Pennington-led team pounding the defending AFC champions.

Following the bye week Broadway Chad lead his team to a circus-like 17 point outburst against San Diego. Once again the opponent was so intimidated by Pennington that Miami scored one of those touchdowns on a direct snap. Still, under his steady leadership the Dolphins were able to put on an offensive display, scoring two touchdowns in the same game. Pennington must have had a psychological effect on San Diego's offense, causing their third down percentage to decline to 25%. Pennington also held LaDanian Tomlinson to 35 yards on 12 carries.

Clearly, Chad Pennington has made this league his b*tch, and is hate-f*cking it just to make his other b*tches jealous.

Skip Towne
10-05-2008, 08:14 PM
IT would have not mattered because the football team is coached by Herman Edwards, who for whatever reasons, coach a 1960 style of a football brand aganist the 2000 style of a football brand.

Mecca and I, along with several other high ranking members of the board has harped on this issue many times. Unless Herm is going to OPEN up the playbook, and let his OC do the playcalling, it's just going to be what just happened last year.

How exactly did you and Mecca become "high ranking members of the board?"

Bearcat
10-05-2008, 08:20 PM
Good old Miami. Good old Chad.

Miami opened the season losing at home to the Jets, down 20-7 until a trash time touchdown. Pennington threw 43 times to get those 251 hard-won yards, an interception, and two TDs, both to tight ends, which just proves the game is so easy to Chad Pennington he doesn't even bother with the receivers.

Pennington followed up this magnum opus by leading his team to a 21-point drubbing by league superpower Arizona. Pennington played admirably, completing 10 passes for over one hundred yards. The performance is even more impressive when you consider three of those receptions were for about 20 yards. Pennington was pulled in favor of Chad Henne once the team went down 31-3.

Pennington did pretty well in week three, throwing for more than two hundred yards. Ronnie Brown's 5 touchdowns surely were set up by the Patriots fear of Pennington's rocket arm. Pennington leads his team to win the day against the Patriots with brilliant direct snaps to the running back. This seemed to be the key to a Pennington-led team pounding the defending AFC champions.

Following the bye week Broadway Chad lead his team to a circus-like 17 point outburst against San Diego. Once again the opponent was so intimidated by Pennington that Miami scored one of those touchdowns on a direct snap. Still, under his steady leadership the Dolphins were able to put on an offensive display, scoring two touchdowns in the same game. Pennington must have had a psychological effect on San Diego's offense, causing their third down percentage to decline to 25%. Pennington also held LaDanian Tomlinson to 35 yards on 12 carries.

Clearly, Chad Pennington has made this league his b*tch, and is hate-f*cking it just to make his other b*tches jealous.

QFT... and your version is more entertaining. :hmmm:

-- Pennington has had two decent games, and do you know why?
Game 1: Loss. Pennington -- 250 yards. Dolphins rushing -- 50 yards.
Game 2: Loss. Pennington -- 112 yards. Dolphins rushing -- 72 yards.

Game 3: Win. Pennington -- 226 yards. Dolphins rushing -- 216 yards.
Game 4: Win. Pennington -- 228 yards. Dolphins rushing -- 167 yards.

Come on, man... you can't defend Huard between this game and last week and then write something like this. Pennington would have looked just as bad as Huard today because he would have gotten no protection and had no running game.

The Dolphins are a prime example outside of our current situation (which is another good example) of why it DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOUR QUARTERBACK IS if the players around him don't perform well.

Throw this away and write about how Chad Pennington is in the same situation as Huard and Croyle... and it's as clear as those 4 games above.

TN_Chief
10-05-2008, 08:21 PM
He doesn't. There are huge differences.You're fucking shitting me. You think there are significant differences between our offense under Gailey and our offense under Solari? You're fucking high. I can't belive you actually attempt to represent yourself as someone that knows anything about football.

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 08:21 PM
You're fucking shitting me. You think there are significant differences between our offense under Gailey and our offense under Solari? You're fucking high. I can't belive you actually attempt to represent yourself as someone that knows anything about football.

Are you also angry at me?

Smed1065
10-05-2008, 08:23 PM
I see Clayton ignores the questions about the part of the post he left off.

Hum, lets see it was negative about LJ....

ROFL

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 08:25 PM
I see Clayton ignores the questions about the part of the post he left off.

Hum, lets see it was negative about LJ....

ROFL

I usually don't respond to your posts, because I don't speak your langauge, but I'll respond to this one.

1. I didn't agree with Nick's take whatsoever.
2. I didn't really think it was accurate at all.
3. I thought people here would just laugh at it.

In the end, it got posted anyway, and I get ridiculed. That's OK. It meant someone clicked over to our fabulous website. So, I win either way.

Booyah.

Bearcat
10-05-2008, 08:26 PM
He doesn't. There are huge differences.

Besides trying to run the freakin' option against the Raiders and one drive against Denver, name a few, please. The 3rd/4th quarter drive against the Broncos last week was completely different than what we've been doing the past few years... besides that, it all looks the same to me.

smittysbar
10-05-2008, 08:26 PM
Clayton why did you leave the LJ part off the article

smittysbar
10-05-2008, 08:26 PM
Clayton why did you leave the LJ part off the article

Nevermind someone else asked

TN_Chief
10-05-2008, 08:27 PM
Are you also angry at me?Angry isn't the right word. Annoyed perhaps. You're like a cloud of gnats...annoying but ultimately insignificant.

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 08:28 PM
Clayton why did you leave the LJ part off the article

May I be excused from the thread? I wouldn't want to leave without your approval.

ClevelandBronco
10-05-2008, 08:29 PM
Good. It's entertaining. I enjoy the fact that you hate me so much. Are you just seething with fury over my posts?

Oh, sure. I guess.

cdcox
10-05-2008, 08:29 PM
Wow. Nick Athan has lost Clayton Wendler. What I would give to be a fly on the wall at the WPI staff meeting. Woooo heeee.

Bearcat
10-05-2008, 08:30 PM
I usually don't respond to your posts, because I don't speak your langauge, but I'll respond to this one.

1. I didn't agree with Nick's take whatsoever.
2. I didn't really think it was accurate at all.
3. I thought people here would just laugh at it.

In the end, it got posted anyway, and I get ridiculed. That's OK. It meant someone clicked over to our fabulous website. So, I win either way.

Booyah.

Wait, the stuff you DIDN'T post was funnier and more inaccurate than the Pennington stuff?

LMAO

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 08:31 PM
Wow. Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan has lost Clayton Wendler. What I would give to be a fly on the wall at the WPI staff meeting. Woooo heeee.

Nick is entitled to his opinion. I don't censor. But I'm inclined to not spread it around if I think people will just make fun of us.

smittysbar
10-05-2008, 08:31 PM
May I be excused from the thread? I wouldn't want to leave without your approval.
No! Take your beating boy:evil:

smittysbar
10-05-2008, 08:32 PM
Nick is entitled to his opinion. I don't censor. But I'm inclined to not spread it around if I think people will just make fun of us.

It had the most truth out of the whole article

The Bad Guy
10-05-2008, 08:33 PM
Of course this dumb dickhead thinks that a "better offensive line" can cure Brodie Croyle's injury history.

The only thing that is saving Brodie Croyle is better genes.

The plays he's been injured on has NOTHING to do with the offensive line.

But then again, fact checking has never been WPI's strength.

Bearcat
10-05-2008, 08:33 PM
May I be excused from the thread? I wouldn't want to leave without your approval.

I was really looking forward to all the ways our offense is different this year as opposed to the other years under Herm, but in the end, wasn't really expecting any....

The Bad Guy
10-05-2008, 08:35 PM
Nick is entitled to his opinion. I don't censor. But I'm inclined to not spread it around if I think people will just make fun of us.

Please save yourself the embarrasment.

This is just spam. Plain and simple.

You know people on here are going to tear it apart, but you just want to get noobies clicking on the link so you could gain a new subscriber.

Why this shit hasn't been stopped a long time ago, I have no idea.

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 08:36 PM
Damn. You exposed me.

ClevelandBronco
10-05-2008, 08:37 PM
Nick is entitled to his opinion. I don't censor. But I'm inclined to not spread it around if I think people will just make fun of us.

That's one of the more bizarre statements I've read on the Planet. Nick takes a ridiculous beat down whenever you post his stuff here. The only guy who comes close to being as embarrassed here is you.

People will make fun of you both, and they really, really should.

The Bad Guy
10-05-2008, 08:38 PM
Damn. You exposed me.

"If people are going to make fun of us, I just won't post it anymore."

WAHHHHHHHHHHH.

What will we do without this expert analysis?

How were we ever fans without these two retards commenting on the Chiefs?

The Bad Guy
10-05-2008, 08:39 PM
That's one of the more bizarre statements I've read on the Planet. Nick takes a ridiculous beat down whenever you post his stuff here. The only guy who comes close to being as embarrassed here is you.

People will make fun of you both, and they really, really should.

Hilarious that a Bronco fan can give us a clear perspective on the situation.

Go play the victim card more. What will I do if you don't post a recap of the game I just watched earlier in the day?

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 08:40 PM
WPI Blasted On Chiefsplanet

ChiTown
10-05-2008, 08:43 PM
"If people are going to make fun of us, I just won't post it anymore."

WAHHHHHHHHHHH.

What will we do without this expert analysis?

How were we ever fans without these two retards commenting on the Chiefs?

ROFL

awesome.

KCJohnny
10-05-2008, 08:44 PM
I don't think it's Herm. You might want to ask Tech fans about Gailey's playcalling. There's a reason Herm hired him...

Gailey and Herm both have histories. The Hermanation of the AS offense seems to point to Herm as the common denominator. Herm has the O on a leash.

Bill Parcells
10-05-2008, 08:46 PM
The problem could have been avoided months ago if the Chiefs had signed veteran free agent quarterback Chad Pennington and cut Damon Huard. Theyíd likely be at least 3-2 on the season, maybe in first place at this point.

Absolute garbage. are you serious with this shit?

The Bad Guy
10-05-2008, 08:47 PM
How in the fuck can someone say this offense isn't Herm's doing?

Mike Solari was around a great offensive mind in Al Saunders. Mike had his nuts cut off by Herm.

Chan Gailey has always been a decent coordinator whereever he has been.

He comes here, and it looks the same as when Solari was here.

This is common fucking sense. This is why I will rail on you every chance you give me because you are dumb as fuck.

Herm's offenses in NY looked the same too.

What's the common theme?

Herman Fucking Edwards.

The Bad Guy
10-05-2008, 08:48 PM
Absolute garbage. are you serious with this shit?

Of course they are.

3-2 is what the true fans want. They want to be in first with an inferior roster so we could save Carl and Herm's ass again.

Signing Chad Pennington would have been a god damn nightmare for the fans because of that reason.

Bill Parcells
10-05-2008, 08:48 PM
How in the f*** can someone say this offense isn't Herm's doing?

Mike Solari was around a great offensive mind in Al Saunders. Mike had his nuts cut off by Herm.

Chan Gailey has always been a decent coordinator whereever he has been.

He comes here, and it looks the same as when Solari was here.

This is common f***ing sense. This is why I will rail on you every chance you give me because you are dumb as f***.

Herm's offenses in NY looked the same too.

What's the common theme?

Herman f***ing Edwards.

Who is the common denominator regardless of who the OC with this offense?

Yes, Herm Edwards. only GoChiefs is dumb enough not to realize it.

cdcox
10-05-2008, 08:55 PM
Gailey and Herm both have histories. The Hermanation of the AS offense seems to point to Herm as the common denominator. Herm has the O on a leash.

So this would be the Hermanation of the Ramzification of the Chiefs?

DaWolf
10-05-2008, 08:56 PM
Herm has got to go. It doesn't matter anymore what happens from here on out. Bad coaching and management vs good coaching and management are what separate the Dolphins and Chiefs right now. Parcells knows how to win. Carl has no clue, and he hires people with no clue...

BigRock
10-05-2008, 09:18 PM
I didn't think Nick could top his blockbuster Quinn/Boldin trade idea. Clearly, I sold him short.

Count Zarth
10-05-2008, 09:18 PM
Hell the Chiefs WERE talking to the Browns about Quinn.

Mecca
10-05-2008, 09:21 PM
Do people really believe this crap?

ClevelandBronco
10-05-2008, 09:23 PM
Hell the Chiefs WERE talking to the Browns about Quinn.

Were they? Quinn will cost more than Chiefs would ever pay, so I'm trying to figure out why your idea matters.

RJ
10-05-2008, 09:24 PM
Thank small g god for fantasy football.

Dave Lane
10-05-2008, 09:29 PM
1, 2, 3, 4... 5?

He couldnt bring himself to include #5 which was Larry Johnson...

Dave

KCJohnny
10-05-2008, 09:44 PM
So this would be the Hermanation of the Ramzification of the Chiefs?

Oh no, Ramifization ended midway through the 2002 season when DV discovered that 2 of his best weapons were the uMartzy TE and FB positions. Ramifization's big push was during the 2001 offseason.

Hermanation refers to the truncation of the playbook, implementation of BucBall (keep the score down, try to win on a late FG), leashing of the QB, and R2P2.

I don't know which I am more disgusted with, the BucBall O or this miserable excuse for a D running Cover 2.

Short Leash Hootie
10-05-2008, 09:45 PM
sorry GC, but this is a pretty fucking bad article.

Nightfyre
10-05-2008, 09:45 PM
Oh no, Ramifization ended midway through the 2002 season when DV discovered that 2 of his best weapons were the uMartzy TE and FB positions. Ramifization's big push was during the 2000 offseason.

Hermanation refers to the truncation of the playbook, implementation of BucBall (keep the score down, try to win on a late FG), leashing of the QB, and R2P2.

I don't know which I am more disgusted with, the BucBall O or this miserable excuse for a D running Cover 2.
I find the whole Cover 2 scheme ridiculous. Call me old fashioned, but I loved the man-up blitz-down defenses of the past.

Farzin
10-05-2008, 09:50 PM
He couldnt bring himself to include #5 which was Larry Johnson...

Dave

I still thought it was funny haha. Especially Fax's comment.

KCJohnny
10-05-2008, 09:51 PM
I find the whole Cover 2 scheme ridiculous. Call me old fashioned, but I loved the man-up blitz-down defenses of the past.

I do too. There is something awfully gone wrong when your Cover 2 "soft middle/bend-but-don't-break" _efense gives up 200 rushing yards every week, including generous allowances for unheard of back up RBs.

Dave Lane
10-05-2008, 09:58 PM
WPI Blasted On Chiefsplanet

We should settle this on the field of battle the the flag football field :)

Dave

Mecca
10-05-2008, 10:02 PM
Well when you play zone with no pass rush, you get killed.

Bill Parcells
10-05-2008, 10:09 PM
Well when you play zone with no pass rush, you get killed.

But when I was in Tampa we played cover two. it worked there with me.-Herm Edwards

According to Herm's logic you're wrong.

Boris The Great
10-05-2008, 11:40 PM
Just to avoid the Pennington pile-on, WTF game is Athan watching where Dujuan Morgan should replace anybody? The Panthers biggest pass play, not to mention the play where Steve Smith was wide open for a TD and they missed, were both caused because Morgan came in and blew the coverage.

Which, fine, he is a rookie after all. He will learn. But for Athan to make that statement would suggest that Morgan was out there being a playmaker. I guess he was, it was just for the Panthers.

WPI will never be taken seriously with this dweeb at the controls. Which is a shame because I like Wendler and Ash.

KCJohnny
10-05-2008, 11:43 PM
I'm not in favor of Morgan starting yet, but look at this video (http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80b5e250)of Jarad Page whiffing. Pretty bad stuff. (FF to 1:25)

Sure-Oz
10-05-2008, 11:45 PM
Page was pretty pathetic, the angles our safeties take are ridiculous....

KCJohnny
10-05-2008, 11:48 PM
Page was pretty pathetic, the angles our safeties take are ridiculous....

At what point does Herm/Gun say to heck with Tampa 2? We just do not have the horses to run that scheme.

Boris The Great
10-06-2008, 12:02 AM
I\'m not in favor of Morgan starting yet, but look at this video (\"http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80b5e250\")of Jarad Page whiffing. Pretty bad stuff. (FF to 1:25)

Not to defend his overall play, but if I remember from the backside angle they showed, Page just slipped and fell on that one. But either way, Page isnt even the one Athan said he should replace, he said Pollard. I dont remember Pollard screwing anything up today.

KCJohnny
10-06-2008, 12:16 AM
Not to defend his overall play, but if I remember from the backside angle they showed, Page just slipped and fell on that one. But either way, Page isnt even the one Athan said he should replace, he said Pollard. I dont remember Pollard screwing anything up today.
I couldn't tell if he slipped or not from the camera angle. What appears to be happening is the Carolina runner stiff arms Page as he whiffs miserably and then a pile picker just obliterates Page at the end of the play.

BigRock
10-06-2008, 12:22 AM
Just to mention it, Page did have a pretty nice INT. It wasn't all slips and pratfalls.

Von Dumbass
10-06-2008, 12:24 AM
Why couldn't the Chiefs just lay down and play dead when they played us?

KCJohnny
10-06-2008, 12:29 AM
Just to mention it, Page did have a pretty nice INT. It wasn't all slips and pratfalls.

Fair e'nuff.

JuicesFlowing
10-06-2008, 01:52 AM
Five to Remember -

Okay, I know that grammar isn't Nick's strong suit, but counting to the number 5?

FAX

If you click on the link, The actual article has 5. The last part about LJ was not posted.

Ultra Peanut
10-06-2008, 04:16 AM
The problem could have been avoided months ago if the Chiefs had signed veteran free agent quarterback Chad Pennington and cut Damon Huard. Theyíd likely be at least 3-2 on the season, maybe in first place at this point.oh darn

beach tribe
10-06-2008, 05:23 AM
I wouldn't laugh to hard. I if these idiots don't get fired, Pennington will brobably be our week 1 starter in 09.

I want to kill them all.

cookster50
10-06-2008, 07:23 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

triple
10-06-2008, 09:09 AM
This is what some people still think.

You go over to Warpaint / Scout, and people STILL think we are a player or two away. This very article says ONE player would have the team in first place.

These people are mentally handicapped. I hope this guy at least gets a hangtag for his car.

There are no words to describe this level of stupidity. Only clinical definitions.